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Unread 12th July 2011, 10:58 AM   #51
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LMAO- I just received the first of which I am sure will be multiple emails, from Anik promoting this crap. I knew that was coming.

Things must be rough in guruland if he is in here trying to feed his funnel...
LOL- Thanks Don- I ACTUALLY SAY right above that I will be mailing this offer because i do feel although a hypey sales letter- that the product is GOOD.

Btw if you think I mail crap, please unsubscribe from my list, I don't need your negative energy on my list. Thanks.

Here is what I MAILED- just so everyone can see..


[fname],

I just finished watching this video.

And I found it very amusing.

And I understand it's quite hypey.

But as you know, I always check out
the product on the OTHER side to decide
if it's a GOOD product.

<LINK REMOVED>

To my surprise, I was very shocked and
pleased with the product. I did a quick
overview of the product and here is what
it does for you.

- EASY to use software- NEWBIE friendly
- No Hosting or Domain Needed
- Takes only a few minutes to get your
campaigns up and running.

<LINK REMOVED>

And it's setup in 4 different selections and it's
simple to use.

- Entering your information
- Set up your campaign
- Setting up your traffic sources
- Tracking your traffic and sales

<LINK REMOVED>

That's it- it's easy to do, took me roughly
5 minutes to get my first campaign up and
running. (And I haven't been practicing!)

So, go ahead watch this funny video, ignore
the hype , and get your campaigns online.

<LINK REMOVED>

Talk Soon,

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How'd the email read?
Well JEFF

The email reads like a stripped down version of the review he gave above.
He does in fact tell you that he has viewed the product and thinks it is good product.

Here is the opening line.


I just finished watching this video.

INSERT AFF LINK HERE

And I found it very amusing.

And I understand it's quite hypey.

But as you know, I always check out
the product on the OTHER side to decide
if it's a GOOD product.

Anik is truthful in the e-mail and never claims anything that he has not alresdy stated here.
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Personally I think that this is a very good product that will be especially helpful too internet marketing newbies especially those that don't have a website etc. I really liked the product obviously there are going to be several in the Warrior crowd that are not going to need this product whatsoever unless they are just trying to easily set up some easy squeeze pages etc.

I think sometimes Warriors including myself at times forget that not everyone is an experienced internet marketer and that products such as this one are very helpful to those new to internet marketing!

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I got an email from Tony Sanders yesterday about this- I wonder if he's hurting for cash or something.

Lately I've had more people send me links for CB products than in the last few months- what gives?

Even if Anik likes this product, I think I'll keep my $50 for something else- that can get you several WSOs :-)
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I think sometimes Warriors including myself at times forget that not everyone is an experienced internet marketer and that products such as this one are very helpful to those new to internet marketing!

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I think the problem is that those pesky damned customers expect the product to actually be what the sales page describes.

The nerve of those *******s.

Everyone reading this thread and every other thread in this review section - SHOULD KNOW THE DEAL....if you don't, stop being so damn gullible.

Marketers mail this stuff so that others will mail their ****...not ALWAYS because it's a good product....

Think about it, how many GREAT WSO'S have you bought...when is the last time you've seen any of the CB launch circle tell their customers about one of them....hmmmm...never you say?

I wonder why....maybe because many of the wso sellers don't have the list size to reciprocate...nah...couldn't be that.

This is business and as many times as people tell you that they are telling you something because they "like you" and want to "help you" - the bottom line is it's all about the Benjis! (benjamins for you slower folk).
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Anik- what you and so many other guru types so easily accept is that the program is being marketed with a lie. Do you believe the story in the sales letter for even a minute? I mean come on...

This has been the trend for quite a while now. The strippers, the tycoons getting on jets etc. It's all lies. I guess if they gave a disclosure right off the bat stating that the story was fictional and the people in the video were paid actors/announcers etc, it might be legal. But to portray these story lines as fact is out right fraud, yet you have no trouble standing behind it. It's amazing to me, it really is.

What's even more amazing is that they continue to get away with it. Eventually these idiots are going to get cracked down on. When that happens it will bring a whole new array of disclosure requirements into the mix, and that is going to make it more difficult for everybody.

If you are such a straight shooter, then it should be of concern to you that the sales letter isn't even close to meeting the disclosure requirements that are currently in effect. But, apparently you have no problem associating yourself with the product (and I use that term loosely) in spite of this fact.

If it was offered as squeeze page templates and a list of solo ad sources, of course it wouldn't sell like it probably will. So they feel the need to slap some fictional, bull**** story behind it to hype it up into something that it isn't. In fact, they won't even tell you what they are selling in the sales copy because they know if they did it wouldn't be nearly as successful.

In my mind if you are promoting something that you feel a need to make excuses for, then you are probably better off not promoting it to begin with. Just a thought...
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To me it doesn't matter if the product is actually good. When I see this type of salesletter I am sometimes sick to my stomach and sometimes overcome with laughter. Just paragraph after paragraph of bull$hit. And the point has been hit already by a few people...these launches continue because of promises of reciprocal mailings coupled with the fact that fresh leads and newbs continue to buy, and the cycle continues and continues...
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I know I'm new to IM and to this forum but I have to tell you that I am getting pretty tired of people criticizing a product that they HAVEN'T bought and therefore haven't used. I would be nice if we could have some reviews of the product from people who have actually used the product and therefore can speak from experience and we can then make an educated decision. I know there are lots of crap products out there, and I have bought several. But I also know that I can ask for my money back if it turns out to be a product that doesn’t live up to its advertising. So, besides Anik, is there anyone who has used this product and believes it’s worthwhile to buy?
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read the salesletter, and anik's review, and i'm stuck on 1 point. let me see if I've got this straight, i'm supposed to have a list that I mail their selected offers or B) pick 1 of 20 marketers with lists to do a solo ad with, marketers who've been contacted by alot of people to mail the same 6 offers??? how long will it be before these 20 folks get tired of being contacted to send these offers out, and how responsive will their lists be?
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I know I'm new to IM and to this forum but I have to tell you that I am getting pretty tired of people criticizing a product that they HAVEN'T bought and therefore haven't used. I would be nice if we could have some reviews of the product from people who have actually used the product and therefore can speak from experience and we can then make an educated decision. I know there are lots of crap products out there, and I have bought several. But I also know that I can ask for my money back if it turns out to be a product that doesn’t live up to its advertising. So, besides Anik, is there anyone who has used this product and believes it’s worthwhile to buy?
There were several reviews of actual users, if you bothered to read.

The reviews turn negative because of the total disconnect between the marketing and the reality of the product -- that makes the product a scam because it does not meet the promise. See this definition:

Scam | Define Scam at Dictionary.com

It is also potentially illegal and will bring down the industry as a whole, but that's no concern for these quick-buck scam artists. Anyone promoting this, whether excusing the scam or not, is themselves part of the scam.

I have a question for Anik: if the product is great, do you think the complete BS of the sales letter is really needed? I'll tell you straight out why it's there -- it is to separate more people from their hard earned dollars. A straight up description of the product would not sell as many copies. That's why the whole thing, from the first letter of the email you wrote to the last byte of the program itself is a confidence game. Doesn't matter whether parts of it are good, the whole thing A to Z is tainted.
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read the salesletter, and anik's review, and i'm stuck on 1 point. let me see if I've got this straight, i'm supposed to have a list that I mail their selected offers or B) pick 1 of 20 marketers with lists to do a solo ad with, marketers who've been contacted by alot of people to mail the same 6 offers??? how long will it be before these 20 folks get tired of being contacted to send these offers out, and how responsive will their lists be?
They won't get tired at all. I'm guessing the 20 people are the product creator and friends - and people are going to be contacting them, offering to pay THEM good money to mail for them.

However, I do think that those lists will start to receive MUCH lower open rates due to the saturation and the influx of new daily emails and offers being sent to them. He'll need to add more people to that list for sure, but then back to point 1 - you DO need to pay to use this 'top secret traffic source'
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I'm guessing the 20 people are the product creator and friends
*Bullseye*

It's also very likely that the 6 CB products that you would be promoting are closely related to the creator and his circle jerk buddies.
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It is also potentially illegal and will bring down the industry as a whole

BOOM!

that's exactly it!

hell, it only took like 4 launches for Plimus to not allow anymore "make money products" to be launched with them as the processor.

It won't be long before the length of the disclosures on our site will be longer than any content we've written.

But, I digress...I've got to get back to writing the copy for my next product...

HOW A ONE BALLED EX-PIMP LEFT HIS BITCHES IN THE DUST AND NOW SLAPS THE BEJEEZUS OUT OF THE ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR WITH 3 EASY PUMPS...ERRRR I MEAN CLICKS
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Personally I think that this is a very good product that will be especially helpful too internet marketing newbies especially those that don't have a website etc. I really liked the product obviously there are going to be several in the Warrior crowd that are not going to need this product whatsoever unless they are just trying to easily set up some easy squeeze pages etc.

I think sometimes Warriors including myself at times forget that not everyone is an experienced internet marketer and that products such as this one are very helpful to those new to internet marketing!

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Thanks Tim for a positive insight. This part of the forum is funny to me. VERY NEGATIVE energy. I looked through and besides some wso reviews, mostly ALL NEGATIVE.

Maybe many of them are jaded. But to BASH a product before trying it or purchasing is ridiculous. HOW do you know these won't work if you haven't tried.

And for the people wondering WHO are selling these solo ads, they are not marketers that are known- any known marketer doesn't sell solo ads, as it would be pointless.

It's 25 not 20, didn't notice the extra tab. I find it interesting to have a well laid out (name, skype, list size, costs , email) site in which I can find solo ads as I want.
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Jeremy Kelsall,

I totally see where you are coming from when you say about the sales page matching up with the product but I think that you would have too agree that if someone were new too internet marketing and bought Chronic Commissions and then went and paid $1 for a Aweber trial, and then drive traffic by both Article Marketing, Social Media Marketing, and possibly with their solo ads etc. there is a good chance that they could easily start building a list of buyers and quite possibly make some affiliate sales too pay for their investment in the product.

The fact is there is never going to be a product that will make anyone thousands of dollars especially a software etc. that is going to be priced at $47, $37, etc.

But I really do believe that someone who gets this and doesn't want to set up a blog or get hosting could make several sales with this product! You and I are looking at it from different perspectives I think you are more focused on whether the product matches the sales page and I am more concerned whether or not it is worth the price they are charging and in this case I feel it is.

However, before I send my list too a sales page like Chronic Commissions I also let them know what the product consist of. I would hope that most people understand that you are not going to make THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS with just about any internet marketing product at least not in 23 days or something along those lines like most claim to do!


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Jeremy Kelsall,

However, before I send my list too a sales page like Chronic Commissions I also let them know what the product consist of. I would hope that most people understand that you are not going to make THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS with just about any internet marketing product at least not in 23 days or something along those lines like most claim to do!


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Kudos Tim- nicely explained - and THAT is exactly what I did with my people, told them what it is and it's over hyped.. But the end product is good.
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Most likely, Corey Lewis and Winter Valko (guys behind the chronic commissions thing) promoted for Adam and Tim heavily - so Adam and Tim are doing reciprocals and returning the favor.

OR - on the other hand, they know it'll convert well and want a piece of the pie

Edit: Funny observation from their JV Page

"Who's already on board? (No Particular order)
Adeel Chowdry, Jani G, Alex Malave, Joey Kissimmee"

Why not list the biggest scammers FIRST to impress your JV's right? LMAO
Add Philip Mansour to the list, just got an email from him! He also sent me the one with the well endowed lady last time.
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Jeremy Kelsall,

I totally see where you are coming from when you say about the sales page matching up with the product but I think that you would have too agree that if someone were new too internet marketing and bought Chronic Commissions and then went and paid $1 for a Aweber trial, and then drive traffic by both Article Marketing, Social Media Marketing, and possibly with their solo ads etc. there is a good chance that they could easily start building a list of buyers and quite possibly make some affiliate sales too pay for their investment in the product.
True enough...

But, where is the secret that is promised?

Where is the get rich in 5 clicks solution?

This is business, not "theft by deception", Tim - Which is exactly what a lot of these guys do - They steal their customers money by making them think that they are getting something that they aren't...and then to add insult to injury, they offer the same explanation that you just did.

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The fact is there is never going to be a product that will make anyone thousands of dollars especially a software etc. that is going to be priced at $47, $37, etc.
Then why does a certain group continue to say that THERE IS SUCH A THING...AND even more important, what person with any sort of business sense and ethics would continue to promote them?

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But I really do believe that someone who gets this and doesn't want to set up a blog or get hosting could make several sales with this product! You and I are looking at it from different perspectives I think you are more focused on whether the product matches the sales page and I am more concerned whether or not it is worth the price they are charging and in this case I feel it is.
I'm focused on whether or not what I'm buying is what they are telling me that they are selling...and it isn't...from that point on, I don't need to consider anything else really.

I guess I'm the kind of guy that figures if you'll take it deep with no vaseline on the front side, I don't even want to know what you'll do on the back-end....if you get what I'm saying
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THAT is exactly what I did with my people, told them what it is
You told them that you were giving them a link to go buy a squeeze page generator and a list of solo ad providers?
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Jeremy Kelsall,

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The fact is there is never going to be a product that will make anyone thousands of dollars especially a software etc. that is going to be priced at $47, $37, etc.

...

Tim
Wait lets see what you're saying -- "Hey I'm not responsible if they are lying, this is a really great squeeze page generator and a list of my buddies who will gladly take your money and send a totally overpriced & worthless solo."

Sounds to me like the only thing you're doing is covering your ass in case the FTC cracks down on this specific product. It's potentially an illegal conspiracy to defraud. Here's the definition of conspiracy:

Conspiracy | Define Conspiracy at Dictionary.com

If the glove fits... Just saying

By the way, this won't help you one bit. If the FTC finds that the product is a fraud then everyone who profits is colluding.

Now as things go, there's been much worse than this product. This is pretty tame.
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If 10,000 people buy this product and send JV offers and paid ads through 20 marketers with large lists, a lot of people on lists are going to be flooded with ads or a lot of those 10,000 will be disappointed. So I don't know the benefits to the purchaser, a $27 investment + hundreds more to enable potential a return. I don't like these blind promotions where you don't exactly know what you are going to get when you buy and have to rely on reviews, most of which are unfavourable before you can see if the product is of value to you...

Regarding lists of marketers, I have a list of 1,250 of the top marketers in the world, all contact and social media details not just emails, who I can call upon to review a product and promote it to their customer list. This list is growing every day. However, with them they prefer JV promotions and only go for products that are of good quality that will convert to their list. I pick a handful of those I know have promoted to a niche market that I am working in and offer them the opportunity, I don't just blanket promote across all 1,250 because that would annoy those being offered a tennis promotion if they are in a golf niche.

At least with such a large list of potential JV partners your product or service would get in front of a targeted list and that's like Christmas to any niche marketer.

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How anyone can say that "the product should get you a few sales, so the "story" doesn't matter" needs to do some real soul searching...

The guy shows you 5-6 times a page showing $26,400 (ish) dollars that "this product made me in the last 30 days". Yeah... maybe the pre-launch to your buddies brought that in, but there's not a chance in hell "using" it will.

I have lost total respect for a few "gurus" I have held VERY highly before this thread.

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Thanks for the review Anik.
But like any other review of a product that claims it will make you money in 24 hours or just like the video where he only has $12 in the bank then just like magic has thousands
there are lots of reviews of different products, but I have yet to see one where the reviewer not only praises the product but says they actually made money in 24 hours as claimed with proof
Eggggggggggsactly! WF reviews are excellent for dispelling the BS claims made by so many digital products. But what is so frustrating to me is that almost never do I see any reviews or follow-up posts that mention, at least generally, whether the product itself actually works and the income it is generating. I know that with some products the results may be delayed while the buyer builds a web site or Facebook page or whatever. Still, reviews or posts with real, actionable results are so rare that it makes me wonder.

It is a greed factor? In other words, if someone finds a miracle product that does everything it promises and the push-button traffic and CB commissions come a-rolling in, are most WR members too busy counting and protecting their profits to share their good fortune with others? Or is it a sad fact that so very few single products actually make a difference? :confused:
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Eggggggggggsactly! WF reviews are excellent for dispelling the BS claims made by so many digital products. But what is so frustrating to me is that almost never do I see any reviews or follow-up posts that mention, at least generally, whether the product itself actually works and the income it is generating. I know that with some products the results may be delayed while the buyer builds a web site or Facebook page or whatever. Still, reviews or posts with real, actionable results are so rare that it makes me wonder.

It is a greed factor? In other words, if someone finds a miracle product that does everything it promises and the push-button traffic and CB commissions come a-rolling in, are most WR members too busy counting and protecting their profits to share their good fortune with others? Or is it a sad fact that so very few single products actually make a difference? :confused:

I'm here to learn and help, if i made a $hit ton with one of these products - i'd be the first to admit it!
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I don't have time to start up anything new, and this sales letter cretainly would not get me to buy - way too much hype.

Gotta admit it was entertaining though...
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how about if I have my own email list? Can my list be uploaded to this webbased app? or we can use only the default solo ad lists?
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question is, why are Adam and Tim of Local Mobile Monopoly promoting it, with Tim even shooting a video to convince us that this is worth getting?
Indeed. Normally I don't give these type of promotions a second though. But then when there are reputable marketers who start promoting these... hmmm
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To be honest I feel most internet marketers at least your average internet marketer will most likely make more money with this product than they would with most others simple because your average IM does not or will not be willing too put in very much work or if any at all.

At least with Chronic Commissions it is very easy to use and because of it's simplicity, most newbie IM people will get more accomplished rather than getting discouraged by reading another ebook on how too setup a Wordpress site and then get it ranking etc.

If a newbie buys this and starts building a list with it they are going to be well on their way too making some good money in the internet marketing business.


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I think my problem is not the product itself, as it seems decent, BUT the fact that the sales letter is a flat out LIE in order to sell the product. It's pretty much somebody selling me a Porsche and delivering a VW instead. Yes, it's going to work - but it's going to cost me A-LOT more money to get what was promised to me in the sales pitch.
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How anyone can say that "the product should get you a few sales, so the "story" doesn't matter" needs to do some real soul searching...

The guy shows you 5-6 times a page showing $26,400 (ish) dollars that "this product made me in the last 30 days". Yeah... maybe the pre-launch to your buddies brought that in, but there's not a chance in hell "using" it will.

I have lost total respect for a few "gurus" I have held VERY highly before this thread.

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LOL- sure you could make 26,400 in a day with this program. It might cost you some money to get there.. but i'd imagine if you got the program, used their squeeze pages to either build a list or mail offers- hit all the solo ads, spent a few bucks there, you could easily profit that.

THAT doesn't mean, you would NET profit that ammount- but your gross profit sure could.

To me it comes back to the "it takes money to make money." I've build my lists using solo ads as well, it works, it's not as "great leads" but if you gain their trust, it can be!

Just my 2 cents...
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I think my problem is not the product itself, as it seems decent, BUT the fact that the sales letter is a flat out LIE in order to sell the product. It's pretty much somebody selling me a Porsche and delivering a VW instead. Yes, it's going to work - but it's going to cost me A-LOT more money to get what was promised to me in the sales pitch.

But doesn't VW own Porsche...
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So I read this whole thread and I just wanted to put in my 2 cents..

When will people realize.. a $27, $37, $47.. $77.. or even a $197 product WILL not make you rich overnight nor will it make you $92,214 in 30 days yadda yadda.

And even the $1500 dollar products or $5000 dollar products won't do it.

What they do is guide you, yes some or crapier than others, and the sales messages are quite.. unethical sometimes, but a collection of a few good cheaper products have made me a few bucks online..

But at the end of the day, it's all about the list in my opinion and finding a program that helps you build a list- even if it's solo ads is not bad in my opinion.

One thing I must say.. KUDOS to the copywriter on this product, wow does it hit ALL the triggers and, a great "story" and does a fantastic job in convincing you to buy!
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You need not scratch the surface of the story to realize it's full of ****.

He tells you he had practically no money down whatsoever. Aside from an eventual $12. But then he went on to churn 100s of these campaigns just to see what happens, with the added caveat that:

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"One big catch can be a $5 per day... Another can be $500

But every opportunity is worth something. The APP makes sure of that..
One wonders where he got the money to set up these 100s of campaigns before he ended up with $100,000+ within a few weeks on his first try.

Hype is fine with me. Hey, you got to sell the sizzle. What bothers me is that the author of the letter genuinely seems to think the readers are idiots.

It's insulting.

Anik, it's not the hype of the letter that you need to worry about. It's the fact that your email subscribers intelligences is being blatantly insulted. I've always known you to be a very capable business man, and a good one always looks after his own.

Just saying man.

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LOL Jeremy..

It's not only about reciprocation, its about conversion and EPC. It's also about product quality and low refunds. It's also about if you are a cool guy to hang with, you pay your affiliates and that you have a good overall track record. It's about how big of a name you have.. How long you have been around..

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I think the problem is that those pesky damned customers expect the product to actually be what the sales page describes.

The nerve of those *******s.

Everyone reading this thread and every other thread in this review section - SHOULD KNOW THE DEAL....if you don't, stop being so damn gullible.

Marketers mail this stuff so that others will mail their ****...not ALWAYS because it's a good product....

Think about it, how many GREAT WSO'S have you bought...when is the last time you've seen any of the CB launch circle tell their customers about one of them....hmmmm...never you say?

I wonder why....maybe because many of the wso sellers don't have the list size to reciprocate...nah...couldn't be that.

This is business and as many times as people tell you that they are telling you something because they "like you" and want to "help you" - the bottom line is it's all about the Benjis! (benjamins for you slower folk).
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LOL Jeremy..

It's not only about reciprocation, its about conversion and EPC. It's also about product quality and refunds. It's also about if you are a cool guy to hang with, and that you have a good track record.

It's about alot of things.
EPC? Dude...please...We both know that the EPC when these things start is a hell of alot different than what the EPC is a month later....

I do agree with the "cool guy to hang with" though

The DAMAGE that some of the launches lately are doing to Internet Marketing Can't be worth what people make peddling garbage.

I havn't seen this product, so I'm not talking about it specifically.
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With some of these late launches, I am thinking of going for the whole shebang. I mean seriously, the product, the upsells etc. And coming back with an honest-to-goodness review of just how much money I made.

I am a product owner in some extremely in-demand niches, so it can't be that hard.

In any case, stay tuned

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Michael Cheney just put out an interesting video in regards to push button softwares it is Titled,

Hard Decisions: michaelcheney.com/harddecision/ (obviously no affiliate link)

Very interesting though!

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True enough...

I guess I'm the kind of guy that figures if you'll take it deep with no vaseline on the front side, I don't even want to know what you'll do on the back-end....if you get what I'm saying
That's really funny Jeremy. LMAO! That's where the $12 comes in handy. Vaseline.
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The big problem i see is that repeated launches like this lose clickbank credibility.

surely CB must see the effect these launches are having to the reputation of the people involved?

Interestingly CB took a big hit with the panda update.

If you look at the traffic that went to them (which is the checkout pages) it nose dived, therefore their income must have taken a hit.

Coincidence that there are more launches like this recently?

I have several products on CB which i plan to remove and i won't be adding any more. I stand by the quality of my products but i don't want to be a victim of guilt by association... i.e only scammers use CB
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CB will either be making some big changes soon or it will be going out of business. If Amazon can make big changes, If Google can make big changes, If the Warrior Forum can make big changes to protect their own interests then so can CB. They need to. No more money making softwares. No more products claiming to make you big money at the click of a button. The more BS stories pushing products. No more.
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Someone offered me a really cool Alienware Laptop and told me it had a specially developed CPU that was the next generation of computer AI.

With everything this laptop could do it should sell for at least 5k... but he was going to sell me this one for $500 out of the kindness of his heart because I really really needed a new laptop.

What a deal !!!

I handed him the 500, took the box and off he went. Opened up the box and there it was.. a little Samsung notebook with an Atom CPU I could have bought for $250

The next time someone offers me a super top of the line laptop in a box, how do you think I am going to feel? I doubt I will be overflowing with positive energy that's for sure!

Same thing with these clickbank launches. I have got to the point where I see the sales page/video.. have a really good hard laugh and move along. Nothing more then a bad joke. It's just sad that people new to IM will fall for it.

looking at it now I wonder how anyone ever could, but once upon a time I was new and I fell for them.
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"Honest 5 clicks of your mouse" (quote from the video) - bottom line to me is the question: Would you show this to someone in your family as a way to make money? Really?
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I'm with Jeremy. While I understand that Anik is saying he promoted because he liked the product in spite of the outright hypey (and illegal!) sales letter...

What Anik is really doing is endorsing such behavior as acceptable... i.e. it's ok to blatantly outright lie to people as long as the product on the end is good.

I don't dig that.

It has nothing to do with "negative energy" either
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I do agree with the "cool guy to hang with" though
Haha so maybe that's why you promoted George Brown. LOL

Party animal. :p
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Haha so maybe that's why you promoted George Brown. LOL

Party animal. :p
I promoted George for a couple reasons.

1. His sales letter told you exactly what you were getting.

2. There were/are a ton of success stories from the original product

I've participated in 2 "bigger" launches - Google Sniper and SENUKE, and both of them, I finished on the leaderboard...It would be easy for me and my partner to jump on these launches and "sell out" our list, but I don't need the money bad enough to blatantly lie to people that trust me.

There are TONS of good products out there that anyone can promote and have a clear conscience when it's all said and done - Unfortunately, these repeated reincarnations of squeeze page and website creation tools which are touted as the second coming of Christ aren't among them.
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"RECRIPROCATION. Winter & Corey are very loyal and always show support for their partners."

This is from the "Affiliates" link at the very bottom of the sales page...below the "FTC Disclaimer..." (imsafelink.com/ChronComm-infusion)

As a lurker for some time observing (and buying a few products contributing to making the 'guru' into a 'millionaire' with 'a few simple clicks' into my bank account) I am constantly reminded of the quote attributed to P.T. Barnum "There's a sucker born every minute."

Here is a little more from the 'Affiliates' page that might be illuminating:

"The Angle:
Our Copywriter is NOTORIOUS and writes seductive, compelling
copy that your customers will LOVE to buy from. The angle is one that we haven't seen used yet, but will resonate deeply with your audience and is sure to be MONSTER CONVERTER."

Further down...

"What's in it for you to promote?

Awesome, never before seen or offered JV prizes

AMAZING EPC's!

Your offers built into their system so their customers
can promote for you and you get ongoing sales for FREE.
(get on the JV list and hit us up to arrange that)

RECRIPROCATION. Winter & Corey are very loyal and always show support for their partners.

Some SUPER SICK Prizes! (we know what you like!)"

And, the list of promoters (although perhaps not all are promoting this product. My introduction to this came from Bill Mcrea from whose list I am UN-subscribing):

"Who's already on board? (No Particular order)

Adeel Chowdry, Jani G, Alex Malave, Joey Kissimmee, Tim Bekker, Adam Horowitz & Tim Donovan, Huey Lee & Rasheed Ali, Chris Moran, Dan Brock, Bill Mcrea, Paul & Antonio, Travis Stephenson, Jamie Lewis, Phil Springer, Steven Johnson, Socrates Socratous, Sean Clark, Shawn Casey & Tom Bell, Andrew X, Anik Singal & Jimmy Kim, Nick Marks, Aaron Darko, Matt Marcus, Charles & Philip Mutrie, Todd Gross, Blake Barrett, Greg Wood, "

The WF is a great trove of information about the good, bad, and the ugly in the many 'slick' and not so slick promotions...many of which are designed to separate the unsuspecting from their hard earned cash for little in return.
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"RECRIPROCATION. Winter & Corey are very loyal and always show support for their partners."

This is from the "Affiliates" link at the very bottom of the sales page...below the "FTC Disclaimer..." (imsafelink.com/ChronComm-infusion)

As a lurker for some time observing (and buying a few products contributing to making the 'guru' into a 'millionaire' with 'a few simple clicks' into my bank account) I am constantly reminded of the quote attributed to P.T. Barnum "There's a sucker born every minute."

Here is a little more from the 'Affiliates' page that might be illuminating:

"The Angle:
Our Copywriter is NOTORIOUS and writes seductive, compelling
copy that your customers will LOVE to buy from. The angle is one that we haven't seen used yet, but will resonate deeply with your audience and is sure to be MONSTER CONVERTER."

Further down...

"What's in it for you to promote?

Awesome, never before seen or offered JV prizes

AMAZING EPC's!

Your offers built into their system so their customers
can promote for you and you get ongoing sales for FREE.
(get on the JV list and hit us up to arrange that)

RECRIPROCATION. Winter & Corey are very loyal and always show support for their partners.

Some SUPER SICK Prizes! (we know what you like!)"

And, the list of promoters (although perhaps not all are promoting this product. My introduction to this came from Bill Mcrea from whose list I am UN-subscribing):

"Who's already on board? (No Particular order)

Adeel Chowdry, Jani G, Alex Malave, Joey Kissimmee, Tim Bekker, Adam Horowitz & Tim Donovan, Huey Lee & Rasheed Ali, Chris Moran, Dan Brock, Bill Mcrea, Paul & Antonio, Travis Stephenson, Jamie Lewis, Phil Springer, Steven Johnson, Socrates Socratous, Sean Clark, Shawn Casey & Tom Bell, Andrew X, Anik Singal & Jimmy Kim, Nick Marks, Aaron Darko, Matt Marcus, Charles & Philip Mutrie, Todd Gross, Blake Barrett, Greg Wood, "

The WF is a great trove of information about the good, bad, and the ugly in the many 'slick' and not so slick promotions...many of which are designed to separate the unsuspecting from their hard earned cash for little in return.
HAHAHAHA.......no wonder ANIK SINGAL is giving it a good review, he is on the bludy affiliates list promoting it!!!! on the leaderboard yet mate?

and we all know about JANI G and his FREE FACEBOOK ADS dont we!

And the Local Monopoly Guys.....shame.

All i gotta say is it really is a "i scratch your back, you scratch mine mentality", granted there are a few good guys that are the real deal....frank kern springs to mind but really it's a joke......i've become immune to all these hyped up launches....

if people really really want to make money then do this....

1. find a niche
2.find a product for that niche to sell
3.create website, seo, sales copy etc
4.drive traffic

rinse and repeat

.........sure there's automation software(hell i use senuke x amongst others) that will help with the process but to find a software that does all at the push of a button? STOP DREAMING.......

Anyway, just my 2 cents and a dime.....sorry my 0.50pence.......
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True enough...

But, where is the secret that is promised?

Where is the get rich in 5 clicks solution?

This is business, not "theft by deception", Tim - Which is exactly what a lot of these guys do - They steal their customers money by making them think that they are getting something that they aren't...and then to add insult to injury, they offer the same explanation that you just did.



Then why does a certain group continue to say that THERE IS SUCH A THING...AND even more important, what person with any sort of business sense and ethics would continue to promote them?



I'm focused on whether or not what I'm buying is what they are telling me that they are selling...and it isn't...from that point on, I don't need to consider anything else really.

I guess I'm the kind of guy that figures if you'll take it deep with no vaseline on the front side, I don't even want to know what you'll do on the back-end....if you get what I'm saying
This is why i'm on Jeremy Kelsall's list. He's a straight up guy, honest and never emails his list only to make a quick buck.
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One thing I must say.. KUDOS to the copywriter on this product, wow does it hit ALL the triggers and, a great "story" and does a fantastic job in convincing you to buy!
Are you fkng serious?

Just curious as to why you put the word story in quotation marks?
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Are you fkng serious?

Just curious as to why you put the word story in quotation marks?
Why are you so angry? Yes I'm serious. I do copy sometimes and found the copy very well written/spoken.

Yes it's full of lies and hype, but the actual triggers it hits is good.

And i say "story" because it's not real, it's a fictional story... or did you believe it was a real story?
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