gange10

Hi Just got an email for Above the matrix, anyone used it is it worth it?

typhoon

Just purchased this. Skipped the upsells. Checking out the software properly. There are two software of which one was already given out by Bill McRea few days back for free.

The main software helps in doing niche research. Will have to see its quality now.

The training will tell you how to setup websites etc. You know all those newbie things...

typhoon

AAAH! (no stupid sound)

I just got some time so thought to download the main software.

Guest What?...

Are you ready for it?...

THE LINK IS DEAD! The page returned Not Found...What a waste of time I had. Will wait for the software to be uploaded now :/

PS. I am sure the creators are reading this.

gange10

Just purchased it, bought the first upsell as i thought you get 10 of there 1000 sites but guess what.....You get 10 generic sites they have created in the video it clearly states they have 1000 sites you will get ten Im not happy, spent over $250 for ten websites and a bit of software!

REFUND REFUND I think....

Dailybread

I purchased Bill McCrea's Massive Passive Profits some time ago. It was without a doubt the most difficult, most over-hyped, most refunded product I have ever bought. I refunded, along with about 70% of the purchasers from what I read. the launch was huge. The product unfinished and nothing like what was presented. The support non-existent. I promised myself I would never buy another product from Bill McCrea. I have kept that promise.

csemprie

I am so happy this is the first place I go after I sense something's off with an IM product.

Thanks for the reviews!

Gary336

My feelings exactly, I only wish that I had known about this forum some months back.
As far as this product goes, I immediately unsubscribed from the list which sent me the link to this terrible sales page.

giakling

It is always good to come here and check out reviews of new products, especially those with hyped-up promises or blind copy. I am glad that I check this out here before buying as I just got an email promoting this. This is the part I like about WF community. Thanks for the frank reviews.

nbcreviews

still intrigued to find out exactly what this "software" is ...... wasnt his last fantastic software :"emerald ..." that just built backlinks on unknown blogs in return for you getting irrelevant links all over your own posts!!!

Kevin Lam

This is just my opinion without buying anything yet... but with a program like that I'm willing to pay a few thousand dollars. I'm shocked to see it at $49.95. If the software being sold can make money within the hour (and that much), I just don't see how any sane person would price it at $49.95.

What gets me is in Rule #4; despite their highly paid programmers and copywriters, they spell "Poser Altert". I mean, wtf is an "Altert"? English is a second language for me, so maybe someone can set me straight on that.

If you didn't notice it, here's the image: http://abovethematrix.com/img/poser.png

And just in case they fix or replace it, I uploaded it to my site too just for fun:

http://analysisgenerator.com/images/poser.png

Anyhow, aside from that little mistake, it really does sound very overhyped. I would NOT share a program such as that so openly and for so cheap. Sure, there are upsells, but people obviously aren't satisfied with them anyway.

I'll pass on this one. Good luck to all that give it a shot. I hope you guys make all kinds of money with it. I really do.

bboretsky

I bought the massive passive BS product from Mcrea Soft and logged into one of his training webinars to hear how to set it up. It was without a doubt the worst webinar I have ever been on. No preparation, and I am not trying to spread rumors but either he had a flu that made him slur and ramble or, . . . I too decided I would never have anything to do with any product he was behind again. Maybe this one is different, but from the above comments, it doesn't sound like it.

eBusinessChamp

Just unsubscribed from the list of the person who spammed me with this amazingly BSed product.

P.S.: Nigerians Rock! (No Joke)

Kevin Lam

So question for David and typhoon... uhh... made your first sale yet? I think it's been at least an hour, right? Hehe. If not, they're calling you guys idiots because it's "idiot proof". Just food for thought.

You guys should ask that girl to show the $2,500 check from clickbank, hehe.

And this could just be a coincidence... but the big company that was in a down time... multi-national.... within 5 miles almost everywhere... investors jumping ship... sounds kinda like Block Buster, lol. Blah, I'm just up late BS'n.

That reminds me, I was at Block Buster not long ago. I asked if they were closing down. They said "no way, not here". 2 months later, their space is cleared out, hahahahahaha. So funny... so sad.

Kevin Lam

I don't even know why I'm bothering, but I'll go ahead and bite the bullet and buy it as well. Only then can I give it an honest review. I'll hand it off to my assistant in the morning to give it a whirl.

gange10

As i said i got the first OTO i wish i never im speaking to support so instead of 10 unique sites generating traffic and money gven to you, you get 10 generic blogs, guess what support WILL not answer my question, they skip round it everytime!

Im soooo pissed off, i never get had this is scamming i got offered a product (10 unique sites making money etc) instead i get the same ten sites everyone gets and i have to get them live and get them traffic nothing like the sales video.......

ProvenWorthy

The product maker ought to get shot for this crappy scam. When it comes to IM, most people spend 95% of their effort on the sales copy and only 5% on their product.

This guy took it to 99.9% scamcopy and 0.1% for product, just for the sake of download.

xxxJamesxxx

Look liks a another stinker... Be staying away from this one for sure

James

Glenellis

As soon as I read how a major company agreed to hire them to build software, then on the fly agreed to let them keep the software when the project was over, my BS Detector was screaming.

When I saw the $49 price tag, my neighbor down the block's BS detector went off, probably because the wind was blowing in his direction.

When I read that ONLY 250 copies (more or less) would be released (at $49, after God alone knows how many affiliates were pumping this into the marketplace) I got a call from the Pentagon telling THEIR BS Detector was going off and it appeared the source of the BS was on my laptop screen.

$49 products with numerous $197 upsells are getting to be pretty boring. Can't scammers at least put some effort into coming up with a new way to rip us off? This one is SOOOOO 2010.

rally2win

Checked with friends Google, Yahoo, and Bing, in searching for anything McReaSoft Solutions. It seems that Google query points to Yahoo, which does not produce an official McReaSoft site => at least on page1 . Bing has the same reaction where it points to the same Yahoo results. Perhaps Bill & Co. does not want to be found.
R2W

Kevin Lam

It's been about 4 hours since I submitted my email to get my login. I guess I'll wait 'til tomorrow. We can't run anything at this point to test it.

I've had the same problem with my own products with a few of my customers so I'm not going to hound him on it.

typhoon

I've simply asked for the refund now. The product sux according to me.

Wageslip

Why do people I respect (for the moment) send out mail to try and make affiliate money off this dross. Shame on you guys and thanks to this forum for producing real reviews.

Gijsbertus

Agreed ! And saving us all lot's of money ! I unsubscribed from a few lists because of this...

maverick4u

So as of yet nobody can give a real review of the "above the matrix" system because nobody has been able to login to the backend? Is it an autoblog generator system that creates backlinks to your money site?

Kevin_R

and the mystery continues....

I have fallen victim to these sort of sales before. Glad I read this thread. Valuable BS detection.

seven87

This thread is very entertaining indeed! I can't stop laughing about Neo and his matrix lol

Penbry

I love the Warrior Forum for many reasons and this is another, good people like Kevin Lam, charges ahead on the front line to evaluate the product on behalf of all of us. Good onya Kevin!

Now about the sales video. I think that it is brilliant. Well crafted and tailored to newbie IMer's to hit the buy button almost as soon as the video finishes.

These guys use well written sales copy and I often take the time to study them. I get the distinct feeling that the same people write them all. There is a sameness to them. Who ever wrote them is really good.

I have even had someone on fiverr transcribe some of these for me in the past so I could study them.

So even if the product stinks (like many of them do) the sales video or copy is usually worth studying.

Some of the sales copy that I have studied from the CB-JV-Buddy-Club has been truly amazing.

That does not mean that I will buy it though. I'll wait for Kevin's review.

Debbie Songster

I bought it to see what its all about.
Here is what I discovered

Yup its a hypy sales letter - aren't they all?

The crying minority woman was a real turn off.
I tend to ignore the sales letters because if I bothered to dissect them I wouldn't buy anything. As much as I hate hyped up sales letters, they really do make people pull out their credit card and buy and that's the name of the game - sales.

I for one have tried the non hype sales letter - just trying to be "honest" and I'll tell you it doesn't convert as well so that's why you will continue to see the hype. Like it or not.

I passed on all the upsells which as someone else stated there are 3.
I found the upsell pages and the product delivery a bit amateurish looking. Not at all the clean professional look I expecting since they are billing themselves as "the real deal".

I bought just the basic package $47
After you get inside if you decide you want to buy the premade blogs (10 for $197) you can buy then.

You have the option of installing the blogs on your domains or subdomains or you can install on their servers.
I opted to install on my own domain
Their system asks for the ftp information and its a one click process to get your blog installed (so is fantastico via cpanel) however what's installed is already loaded with plugins.

The blog comes with a content system and a back link system.
At first I was angry that the back link system "Traffic Nirvana" was a paid system. I was sure I had seen something about the setup in one of the videos. So, I watched the videos again and found you have to use their special email address to activate the system and get the API key. This is easy to miss so make sure you pay attention to the videos.

The auto content and back link system are theirs and appear to be the backbone of the system.

When you watch the video on setting up the monetization system they are using one of the "premade" blogs as an example so its a simple - place this adsense code here and place your clickbank code there - I'm using the basic blog so its not as straight forward.

For a newbie this will be confusing.

My blog contained the plugin "Quick Adsense" and needs to be configured. I'm ok with that since I know what I am doing but a newbie would be lost.

In my blog there is no auto space (that I've found yet) for Clickbank products. Once again the video shows him working with one of the premade blogs.

At any rate I'm still playing with it and you can see it here Solar Power News

Would I recommend this for a newbie? Yea I think its worth the $47 but there are not enough videos to walk a newbie through setting up the basic blog.

You should really get a premade one just to "cut your teeth" on the system. Unfortunately they only appear to sell them in lots of 10.
I don't agree with the way they promo these packages as it leads a person to believe that you are getting 10 of 1000 that they made and it implies that no 2 packages will have the same topics.

Thats incorrect as they are really 10 blogs of 10 topics and they are selling x number of packages containing those same topics.

Time will tell if the built in Content and Backlink system is effective.
If its not then this "system" is just another blog setup that you could do on your own.

As for their claim of earning money in the first hour - Yeah right. I don't think thats going to happen.
I'll be generous and finish setting things up and then give it a day.

I hope this was helpful.

yossic

I also purchased and returned Bill's Massive Passive Profit. As soon as I got the email for Above The matrix I rushed over to this forum to see people's reactions.

I've been trying to earn some money with all these systems for teh past year and a half and I am yet to find a system that will help me do so. Traffic is key. If your site doesn't have traffic you won't make any sales. So far I have not found a magic bullet for traffic except hard work (articles).

I'll pass on this one.

Don Sherret

giakling, I would never buy any of this type junk without a visit to WF for reviews and experiences. I used to have my finger on the trigger for this junk until I learned the hard way to visit the "Warriors" first. Glad you see it the same way! Wish more innocent IM'ers would do the same.
Don Sherret

Maria Nguyen

Here's my feedback....I did not get far......! I signed in just fine..and I wanted to create a subdomain under their domain. As I created the subdomain under one of their existing domain "nichemaster.net" it first tells me that it is uploading and then directs me to a page with an error message:
"This website is temporarily unavailable. Please check back later.
Unfortunately there were no suitable nodes available to serve this request."

How am I going to proceed?

Also, what is everyone using (if anyone even brought the product) as their username and password on the Cyber Niche Finder program that they provided? The video states that the username and password was provided when we registered.

What registration page? Did anyone registered after their purchase? After purchase, we were taken to OTO1, 2, and 3 but never a registration page that provided us our username and pw for the Cyber Niche Program.

Is there anything to look forward to honestly? For an "ex-hacker" shouldn't they know better to protect their thank you page?

Anyway, anyone who has used this product successfully, please let me know. I am just curious

IsabelDaGuerra

Ha Ha Ha... Like the BS Detectors, maybe you should be telling us how to get these so that we can be using it ourselves ;-)

Or maybe turn it into some Free Giveaway software... Hey who know POOF! Maybe get these BS's out of office/work/job

Wageslip

Come on so called super affilites, I bet you will never own up to promoting this rubbish..but we know who you are...to quote a famous football song..."we can see you sneaking out...we can seee youooo sneaking out"

bensails

Got my refund.

Submitted help ticket and email to the clickbank receipt link and email address yesterday immediately after the purchase of the basic and 1st OTO. Have had no response to the help ticket or email. The OTO did not match the video either in terms of content on offer or price. I suspect the sales funnel was botched so that what I got was the downsell for the declined OTO 1.

In any case, even extending the benefit of the doubt (just not ready for prime time at launch) I don't see any way to get sales in the first hour after purchase. I am no idiot.

Benjamin

TimNesbitt

I wouldn't recommend this product at all. I was kind of wondering when a not so good product would be released because there had been some very good ones coming out lately such: Income Entourage, Chronic Commissions, Instant Affiliate Paydays, etc. so I knew it was just a matter of time for one to come out and be a let down and this certainly fits the bill!


Tim

Aristocratic

I got the basic package because the upsells were not at all appealing (and it did seem the third video was exactly the same as the second, guess they got lazy).

I wanted to play with it after I watched the setup videos so I tried the setup on their hosts via a subdomain option. When it setup, it just says "complete" but it doesn't take you to the completed blog, and there is no section that shows you a list of urls that you have.

So I went back to find the url, went to it, clicked login and it wouldn't let me login. I look up in the url field and it's a totally different url (they have two domains you can choose to set up subdomains on and this one showed a different subdomain AND domain name). I figured it may have been a fluke so I try setting it up again.

This time I tried on the other domain and navigated to the url. At least this time when I went to the url, the theme was their theme. But when I hit the url, it again sent me to another subdomain and domain name (a domain not of the two we get to pick from even). I, just for kicks, enter the user id and pw and it redirected me to yet another subdomain and domain.

It's horrible.

So I tried the 'setup on your own servers' option via their ftp method. It said complete, I navigate to the url, and nothing. I checked the ftp details and they work fine with my ftp client.

I can't comment on the content or traffic (and therefor the 'make a sale in an hour') part because I haven't gotten past the setup. I submitted a support ticket last night when I bought it. Around 8:30pm so I didn't expect a reply yesterday.

But it's 7:09pm now and still no reply.

Poor product, poor support. Stay away.

magentawave

Debbie,

If that auto backlinking system that you said was called "Traffic Nirvana" is the same as their "Auto Traffic Nirvana" then I want you to know that it does NOT work. I bought Auto Traffic Nirvana (A.K.A. Emerald One or ATN) a couple months ago because the thought of automatic backlinking was too irresistible to pass up. So I spent a whole bunch of time installing and activating it on about 12 sites and monitoring them to see if it was doing what it was supposed to do (deliver deep backlinks to every page/post on my sites) and after two months not even one backlink to my site was produced. Their tech guy told me on the phone a couple times that it would eventually start doing backlinks but their ATN system was totally backlogged because too many people bought it. So of course I asked him why in the heck do they keep selling it if their system can't handle it? You know, put a cap on it! And he said it would eventually work. I kind of felt sorry for the guy because he was caught in the middle and just doing his job. Understand that I really reeeeeally wanted it to work, but finally after almost two months had to pull the plug and get a refund and then deactivate and delete everything which was another big waste of time. So its obvious that ATN/Auto Traffic Nirvana/Emerald One is being sold in the hopes that most people will forget to ask for a refund until after the MBG expires...which is disingenous as hell!

I'll tell you one thing about his stuff... the copywriting is really good!

Steve

Debbie Songster

magentawave

Yup thats what it's called "Traffic Nirvana"

When you buy this system you don't have to buy Traffic Nirvana - its included.
I set up the blog and their system did post the first article. I have it set to 2 articles a day.

I'll see what happens.
I won't do any more blogs then the one I just set up.
My time is limited
You can see the blog here Solar Power News
I got the basic package and had to add complete Adsense ad code to the plugin that came with the package. I also added the Clickbank stuff in the sidebar as well, I picked the theme.

I'm very proficient with using Wordpress so its easy for me to add these extra things but I can see how a newbie would easily get lost.

As some else stated they couldn't figure out the url after installing.

I've seen the auto content part work just fine.
The blog loaded just fine for me on both their domains and mine
I'm waiting to see what happens with the backlink system - Traffic Nirvana.

I'd say if they were gearing this to newbies they missed the mark by a long shot as there should be a ton more videos going over every step of the install and configuration.

Hey for $47 I've bought worse products.

The 2 pieces of software they included, I didn't use as I have other tools that do the same thing much better.

The blog is monetized so I'll see how their claims hold up.
I'm not holding my breath but I figure you can't really review a product unless you complete all the steps.... Right?

Brad789

Gange10

Brad here - I got the same promotion and thought almost immediately about Warrior Forum - sure was refreshing to get the low down immediately.

I see you have been at this a while. I wonder if you agree that true internet marketing comes from long term experience - not from turn key products.

I have not seen one yet that I got or other have well reviewed do well. BUT what I have discovered is that learning the key skills in internet marketing puts me in a different group of providers.

If we are all willing to put in 12 - 18 - 20+ years in a school -- seems like we would be willing to commit some serious time to learning what amounts to an industry.

Here we are learning marketing; then we are learning programing; then we are learning copywriting; then we are learning to communicate; then we see we need to understand niches and customer traffic issues etc etc.

For me, I want to be in for the long haul. I have found a few people I know practice what they teach and have had some success. I am a huge fan of Chris Farrell and his team.

You might want to check out my recent experience with Chris and his team. No doubt in my mind - they are there to deliver and teach. Not sell some fast bucks scheme.

I am also a big fan of the Internet Business Mastery crew Jay and Sterling. I see them as the real cheerleaders of the market. Their PodCasts OVERDELIVER every single time!

I get a lot out of their 30 minute sessions. From the comments on their site and the PodCasts themselves - so do a lot of others.

Just wonder what the consensus is about turn key systems. It would be hard to change my mind at this point after all the really bad systems I have reviewed.

What do you think?

Cheers !

seankaye

I totally agree with you Tim - there's been some decent products out recently, I think Josh and Andrew have done a great job with Unstoppable Affiliate and Jamie Lewis' Income Entourage as you pointed out was another.

It seemed like it was only a matter of time before the next "click here and get rich" product would come out. I'm not sure how I ended up Dylan Loh's list, but he's the one who sent it to me - I've now unsubscribed. That's the best way to handle people sending you junk like this.

gange10

Yes Brad, totally agree and i never normally get sucked in but did twice once with the intial offer then with the OTO offering ten ready made sites already getting traffic and making money instead 10 generic sites, I actually feel like a fool......

I hope my experiances serve to help people.

Just so you know the help desk will not answer my questions on the fist OTO this just serves to tell me rip off merchants......

David

Rex Graham

I'm so glad to be a part of this forum. I get so many emails promoting this junk and know I can come here to get the real reviews before falling for their great sales videos.

Thanks for the heads up...

Rex

Noctilus

Gosh this is the 2nd time today Ive laughed out loud reading someones post on here. That was a really funny reply...I laughed from beginning to end. The part about the BS detectors..had me rolling!

jlmconnection

I read the sales copy and watched the video yesterday. As soon as I wartched the video with the girl and she said she made $2500 in a month and I just watched her eyes as she went through the video my "here's anything piece of crap being hyped" alarm went off. I thought about buying it just to see if ANY of the promises were true but I didn't. After reading all the comments from my fellow warriors I am glad I did not spend the money and time. Nothing quite like the reality check this forum can bring.

Jim

Shemp Hain

That typo is pathetic and it's not a little mistake. It happens because these idiots rush out a product to make a quick buck then they either disappear or rehash more garbage and market it under an alias. Who is that desperate to push these ****ty products to their lists without even reading over the sales letter. UNREAL!

Yeah good luck with this product. I'm sure the software works well... if they can't catch a simple spelling error can you imagine how F'd up the coding is?

Don Holland

Hello Warriors,

I was sold on the product when I saw the presentation. So yes, they have a killer sales page and I purchased the original offer ($49.95)and none of OTOs.

I did check out the Warrior Forum before purchasing but at the time, only the initial post was available.

Since my early purchase, I have seen some considerable changes to the membership site.
When I logged in the first time and watched the training videos, one of the videos demonstrated how to select from one of their 100+ pre-made blogs.
When I went to make my selection, there were only 10 to choose from, so I submitted a support ticket. They responded very quickly.

Here’s the dialog:
Don Holland
Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 3:50 PM
Phillip Long
Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 4:26 PM
Don Holland
Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 4:31 PM
Phillip Long
Posted On: 26 Jul 2011 4:47 PM
Ticket Closed…

So, there are only 10 to choose from? Okay, what the heck, I’ll pick one of them. But, the next time I log in I discover that I have no choice at all. The only product available to me now is the “BasicGenericBlog”.

I submitted another ticket at 27 Jul 2011 11:54 PM and asked what’s going on. I still have had no reply.

Now when I log into my membership site, they have completely removed the Products Catalogue page. I guess now at least, new purchasers won’t be misled.

I’m still going to install my “BasicGenericBlog” and see how it goes. This is going to take longer because I have to decide what niche to go into and figure out just how this blog is going to work. Without the pre-made blogs this is going to be really exasperating for the new person.

Cheers,
Don…

Kevin Lam

Guys, I'm going to discontinue the testing and get a refund. It's just relentless and not worth our time. I can understand if there are incompatible issues due to server differences, but in this case, it's on their own server. We can't even log into the software with their provided login.

It just surprises me that as much as they claim to put into this system there are still so many problems. I'm sure their dozens of overpaid programmers and 18 professional English writers who passed in college with a "C-" could put together a decent member's area and more protected files.

The whole thing looks rather rushed and thrown together at the last minute. It seems more time was spent on the sales copy than anything else (even then, there are lots of mistakes), which is not at all necessary. I've sold about $40,000 with a video of me in a muscle shirt and my foot up in my chair, so sales copy and gimmicks like his is not necessary.

From everything he was saying, I was expecting a lot more out of the program. It's a huge disappointment BUT was not at all surprised. I truly did wanted it to work out though and be proven wrong. I hate to see anyone fail, but this is just not acceptable.

By the way, Maria is my assistant. She's the one that was trying to use it and left her feedback yesterday. It's definitely not an easy program to work with and making your first sale within the 1st hour... huge joke that is. If it wasn't so hyped up, I think the responses would not be like this though. It might even allow us folks to be more patient.

But when you claim to deliver water to a desperate town in crisis, you'd better come through. If you say there are obstacles that must be overcome and it will be difficult, but you WILL get there... people are more understanding and will do their best to hold on.

-------

And the fact of the matter is guys, the ONLY reason I even looked at the product and purchased the initial program was I thought they beat my team to creating such a system. Happy to know they haven't. My journey continues.

csemprie

One thought that keeps popping up for me is....

If the product creators met on the Warrior Forum, (which they plugged on the sales page)........and they launched a seemingly broken product which has yet to receive a positive accolade.....

Did they not think about their reputations on WF at all? I would have expected much more from experienced IMers who met on WF of all places!

Naive of me to think, I guess.

Gimli

End of Discussion!

onemorewarrior

Hey Deb

Seems like you are the only one to actually get this working.

That said I noticed you mentioned that you added your own
adsense code and tweaked the side bars for clickbank and you
used your own theme.

So basically you are not using the system the way it was designed.
It was my understanding that you follow the system and it does all the monetizing stuff for you right out of the gate.

So in reality this is just another autoblog system and has no real value.
It most certainly DOES NOT live up to the promises. CHEERS