Mike Filasime's Evergreen Business System- Thoughts??

Profile picture of the author ZerosToHero by ZerosToHero Posted: 08/02/2011
Any reviews would be appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author zerofill
    zerofill
    The webinar script was actually a WSO here at one time.

    The script was done nicely. I don't know what they are selling it for now though.

    The script was originally on: Internet Marketing Tools
  • Profile picture of the author Anonymous Affiliate
    Anonymous Affiliate
    Originally Posted by zerofill View Post
    The webinar script was actually a WSO here at one time.

    The script was done nicely. I don't know what they are selling it for now though.

    The script was originally on: Internet Marketing Tools
    That's incorrect. The Evergreen Business System is a whole new software in its own league, nothing to do with what you could find in the Internet Marketing Tools website. It's like comparing a Ford and a Porsche: both are cars, but they're simply in different leagues.

    The Evergreen Business System software is like 5 times more powerful.
  • Profile picture of the author jlandells
    jlandells
    Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post
    That's incorrect. The Evergreen Business System is a whole new software in its own league, nothing to do with what you could find in the Internet Marketing Tools website.
    I'm just curious - if it's not the same system, why has the original one been taken down, and how come Mike's giving bonuses from Internet Marketing Tools ?

    I'm not saying anything here - just curious about the coincidence!

    -John.
  • Profile picture of the author Anonymous Affiliate
    Anonymous Affiliate
    Originally Posted by jlandells View Post
    I'm just curious - if it's not the same system, why has the original one been taken down
    Very simple: because Evergreen Business System is a far superior product and thus we moved all our resources to develop the new software. Why would we keep developing a software that's been clearly outperformed?

    Does Microsoft still develop Windows XP? no they don't - they took it out of the market and moved their development team to code Windows Vista or Windows 7. We did the same.
  • Profile picture of the author jlandells
    jlandells
    Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post
    Very simple: because Evergreen Business System is a far superior product and thus we moved all our resources to develop the new software. Why would we keep developing a software that's been clearly outperformed?
    Ah - I missed the key piece of information that it's YOUR improved product that's been sold!

    It really does look very good!

    -John.
  • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
    Steadyon
    Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

    The Evergreen Business System software is like 5 times more powerful.

    That's a pity. I was looking for something 6 times more powerful....
  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Dexx
    Maybe I'm just dumb, but I don't get the purpose of pre-recorded webinars vs just using a sales video.

    A pre-recorded webinar (designed to look like its currently happening) lacks the more crucial element of a webinars...speaking directly with the audience and answering their questions based on the content to motivate them to buy.

    Wouldn't people notice that their "live" webinar is not allowing for any audience involvement?

    Or...why not just record a webinar, and play it back as a sales video replay of the webinar?

    I must be missing something for this $500 investment...

    ~Dexx

    EDIT: Oh, nevermind, I scrolled down and see that you can have registrants show up on a list as if it were a live event, and they can email questions in for a later response--or the webinar hosted can have login and answer questions live...interesting concept!
  • Profile picture of the author Anonymous Affiliate
    Anonymous Affiliate
    Originally Posted by Dexx View Post
    Maybe I'm just dumb, but I don't get the purpose of pre-recorded webinars vs just using a sales video.

    A pre-recorded webinar (designed to look like its currently happening) lacks the more crucial element of a webinars...speaking directly with the audience and answering their questions based on the content to motivate them to buy.

    Wouldn't people notice that their "live" webinar is not allowing for any audience involvement?

    Or...why not just record a webinar, and play it back as a sales video replay of the webinar?

    I must be missing something for this $500 investment...

    ~Dexx

    EDIT: Oh, nevermind, I scrolled down and see that you can have registrants show up on a list as if it were a live event, and they can email questions in for a later response--or the webinar hosted can have login and answer questions live...interesting concept!
    Let me quote myself from another thread on this topic:
    The idea of a pre-recorded webinar is not to "cheat" your customers telling them it's a real-time webinar. The idea is to tell them it's an event, regardless of whether it's live or recorded.

    When someone chooses to sign up to your event at his desired date and time, he's in the right frame of mind to absorb your marketing message because he CHOSE his best suitable date/time according to his own schedule, and thus you've got his FULL ATTENTION!

    That's the strong point of pre-recorded webinars: in stead of forcing your customers to watch your video at your desired time, they do so at theirs, and that's why sales conversions are typically higher.

    Again, I must stress: this is not about "cheating" your prospects. It's about making a (pre-recorded) event out of your sales video, and make it play at your prospect's best suitable date/time... it works, and there's nothing unethical about it.
  • Profile picture of the author .X.
    .X.
    Dexx -

    I view it as something more akin to buying
    a movie ticket. Show times run at various
    hours every day. And if I know I have a
    movie I want to see occurring at a specific
    date/time I'm more likely to attend than if
    I could go any time.

    There *is* a lot to be said about building
    up to an event versus on demand.

    Being pre-recorded holds the "potential"
    for improving the quality of the session,
    both for the marketer and for the
    attendee.

    You can certainly open up Skype or another
    IM platform and answer questions in that
    way too - real time.

    The primary thing is that this is a system -
    there is quite a bit of setup work involved
    here. However once the setup is complete
    then it should run itself on autopilot and
    that's my goal with everything I do.

    If I had to do live webinars for everything it
    just wouldn't happen -

    And I think you'll see an evolution of
    "webinars" as people will certainly get tired
    of what we've come to know them as.

    The biggest concern for me (aside from
    will this software work as advertised) is
    that this method of promotion will reach
    saturation and it's going to REQUIRE more
    to stand out and above the inevitable
    garbage that will come with it.

    When are we going to see pre-recorded
    PLR webinars? I'd bet soon. :-)

    Congrats to the programmer, Hector Yague -
    *if* this actually works then this is a cool
    tool in the right hands.

    X
  • Profile picture of the author thesuccesscoach
    thesuccesscoach
    i think it's a very interesting concept but agree that we will see this being used alot. however i think it's about thinking outside of the box really.

    there are many markets and many niches where people are not familiar with this so if one was to avoid internet marketing niche they could make a killing

    my fingers is hovering over the buy button!

    just need to justify it!
  • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
    David Maschke
    Still no honest to goodness reviews yet, other than from the guy who made it? Hmmm... sounds like there needs to be some spin control here.
  • Profile picture of the author Vincenzo Oliva
    Vincenzo Oliva
    One thing that's confusing and I've not been able to clarify before purchasing is whether or not this can be a stand-alone script or do you need to log into the membership site every time you want to create a webinar.

    Can the entire webinar creation dashboard be installed on your host and run independently?
  • Profile picture of the author Anonymous Affiliate
    Anonymous Affiliate
    Originally Posted by Vincenzo Oliva View Post
    One thing that's confusing and I've not been able to clarify before purchasing is whether or not this can be a stand-alone script or do you need to log into the membership site every time you want to create a webinar.

    Can the entire webinar creation dashboard be installed on your host and run independently?
    The configuration dashboard is hosted in our members area: You login, configure your webinar as per your desired settings, and then either...
    • Click on "Generate Webinar", and the system gives you a ZIP file with all the files you in fact upload to your server.
    • Alternatively, you click on the "Host It In Our Servers" button, and you dont even need to upload anything because the system automatically hosts the webinar in our servers.
  • Profile picture of the author James Campbell
    James Campbell
    Originally Posted by Vincenzo Oliva View Post
    One thing that's confusing and I've not been able to clarify before purchasing is whether or not this can be a stand-alone script or do you need to log into the membership site every time you want to create a webinar.

    Can the entire webinar creation dashboard be installed on your host and run independently?
    It is a standalone as far as I know.

    If it weren't, then I would be less inclined to buy.

    Our team is looking at purchasing this in the next couple of days because it fits perfectly with what we have planned.

    From the video and salespage, the impression I got is that it is a self-hosted solution, with no recurring fees.
  • Profile picture of the author Anonymous Affiliate
    Anonymous Affiliate
    Originally Posted by James Campbell View Post
    From the video and salespage, the impression I got is that it is a self-hosted solution, with no recurring fees.
    That is correct. Regardless of whether you decide to host your webinars on your own server or on our servers (the software gives you both options), there are NO recurring monthly fees of any type at all.
  • Profile picture of the author Alminc
    Alminc
    I was recently invited to such 'event' by someone.

    It took me a while to realise it's all fake.

    And it was cheating since the part of the email message
    I received was 'this will not be recorded so make sure
    you take notes...'
  • Profile picture of the author Anonymous Affiliate
    Anonymous Affiliate
    Originally Posted by Alminc View Post
    I was recently invited to such 'event' by someone.

    It took me a while to realise it's all fake.

    And it was cheating since the part of the email message
    I received was 'this will not be recorded so make sure
    you take notes...
    '
    You see? that's precisely what you do NOT want to do. You don't want to stage a pre-recorded webinar as if it was live. That's what might get you in troubles. Like I said before, it's about announcing your webinar as a scheduled event, not as a live event. Big difference there.

    If you do that, no one will complain, your prospects will benefit from your presentation, and your conversions will improve
  • Profile picture of the author zerofill
    zerofill
    Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post
    That's incorrect. The Evergreen Business System is a whole new software in its own league, nothing to do with what you could find in the Internet Marketing Tools website. It's like comparing a Ford and a Porsche: both are cars, but they're simply in different leagues.

    The Evergreen Business System software is like 5 times more powerful.
    My mistake I liked the original script to. Wasn't trying to knock it or anything.
  • Profile picture of the author .X.
    .X.
    Originally Posted by David Maschke View Post
    Still no honest to goodness reviews yet, other than from the guy who made it? Hmmm... sounds like there needs to be some spin control here.

    David -

    Excuse me for being a little terse, but
    when did this product launch?

    As I write this, yesterday. What the
    hell do you think you're going to get in
    the way of "an honest to goodness
    review"?

    I'm working on putting something together -
    have been since I paid cash for it yesterday.

    You might get a review from one of Mike's
    lackey's.

    Or you might get a review from a JV
    partner but you're not going to get an
    "honest to goodness review" from a
    customer.

    Now - I was an original Butterfly Marketing
    customer.

    It sucked. It was ****. The product was
    not delivered for nearly three weeks after
    I bought it - while Mike disappeared to
    Australia to sell more copies of it speaking
    from stage.

    It loused up launch plans I had.

    It pissed me off.

    I have been one of Mike Filsaime's most
    vocal critics over the years.

    It honestly pains me to admit I bought
    a Filsaime product and I'm excited about
    it.

    It's like I just bought a Lady Gaga
    album or Justin Bieber, you know.

    That plus I just bought, and recommended
    to my list, something else very similar -
    but this looks better.

    So . . . I also proceed with caution in
    saying "yeah, this is as great as it's
    advertised to be".

    Concept: great.
    Initial look under the hood: great
    Features: great
    Ease of use: very good
    Simplicity: great considering the complexity
    Drives like a champ: we'll see

    This is a complex system with a lot of
    moving parts and that always concerns me.

    Now . . . here's the feedback I will offer
    you.

    You're never going to KNOW anything
    in life unless you get off your ass, make
    an honest effort and do something.

    If you don't have $500 to risk, then don't.

    If you don't believe you'll do what it takes
    to make the investment work, don't.

    You will get good reviews.

    You will get bad reviews.

    Some will come from people with ulterior
    motives - others will come from people
    who have trouble brewing a cup of coffee.

    And in the meantime you're going to
    sit here waiting for someone else to
    take the chance, to do the work and
    report to you so you can him-n-haw.

    It's a mentality that drives me so
    freakin' nuts I want to kick your ass -
    not because I want to do serious
    physical harm to you but because you
    have a mentality that must get
    eradicated for your own damned good.

    Do you get it?

    So man up. Buy the freakin' script
    and make your best run for 30 days
    and if it doesn't work then ask Mike
    for your money back.

    That, or move on.

    X

    PS - My rant isn't over and what
    really ticks me off is I'm in the position
    of Filsaime apologist.

    Cheating? Is it "cheating" that the
    movie theater has play times when you
    could go watch the damned thing on
    demand right now?

    Look - we live in a land of liars and
    scumbags. We live amongst people
    who don't even realize they could
    easily tell the truth and people would
    still show and buy stuff. If you're
    seriously so mentally blocked by your
    "morality" then you have no freedom
    and there is nothing more immoral than
    that.

    Use your head. Take what's available
    and make it work. Sitting around and
    crying about how you got faked . . .

    Does it really freakin' matter if someone
    has to push a psychological button in
    order to get you up off the couch?

    That's what leaders do. That's what
    they have to do to get the herd to move.

    Moo

    PSS - I've probably totally over-reacted
    here but damn, this is fun. :-)
  • Profile picture of the author magentawave
    magentawave
    Is there anyway to buy the product as it was before because I'm pretty sure it did everything I wanted it to do and I'm going to need it in about a month?

    Steve



    Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post
    That's incorrect. The Evergreen Business System is a whole new software in its own league, nothing to do with what you could find in the Internet Marketing Tools website. It's like comparing a Ford and a Porsche: both are cars, but they're simply in different leagues.

    The Evergreen Business System software is like 5 times more powerful.

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