Mike Filasime's Evergreen Business System- Thoughts??

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Any reviews would be appreciated.
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    • Profile picture of the author zerofill
      The webinar script was actually a WSO here at one time.

      The script was done nicely. I don't know what they are selling it for now though.

      The script was originally on: Internet Marketing Tools
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      • Originally Posted by zerofill View Post

        The webinar script was actually a WSO here at one time.

        The script was done nicely. I don't know what they are selling it for now though.

        The script was originally on: Internet Marketing Tools
        That's incorrect. The Evergreen Business System is a whole new software in its own league, nothing to do with what you could find in the Internet Marketing Tools website. It's like comparing a Ford and a Porsche: both are cars, but they're simply in different leagues.

        The Evergreen Business System software is like 5 times more powerful.
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        • Profile picture of the author jlandells
          Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

          That's incorrect. The Evergreen Business System is a whole new software in its own league, nothing to do with what you could find in the Internet Marketing Tools website.
          I'm just curious - if it's not the same system, why has the original one been taken down, and how come Mike's giving bonuses from Internet Marketing Tools ?

          I'm not saying anything here - just curious about the coincidence!

          -John.
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          • Originally Posted by jlandells View Post

            I'm just curious - if it's not the same system, why has the original one been taken down
            Very simple: because Evergreen Business System is a far superior product and thus we moved all our resources to develop the new software. Why would we keep developing a software that's been clearly outperformed?

            Does Microsoft still develop Windows XP? no they don't - they took it out of the market and moved their development team to code Windows Vista or Windows 7. We did the same.
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            • Profile picture of the author jlandells
              Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

              Very simple: because Evergreen Business System is a far superior product and thus we moved all our resources to develop the new software. Why would we keep developing a software that's been clearly outperformed?
              Ah - I missed the key piece of information that it's YOUR improved product that's been sold!

              It really does look very good!

              -John.
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            • Profile picture of the author scottmanesis
              Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

              Very simple: because Evergreen Business System is a far superior product and thus we moved all our resources to develop the new software. Why would we keep developing a software that's been clearly outperformed?

              Does Microsoft still develop Windows XP? no they don't - they took it out of the market and moved their development team to code Windows Vista or Windows 7. We did the same.
              But did Microsoft only make their software available for 3 or 4 days, no they didnt WHY? Because REAL products are sold to the masses, as many copies as freakin possible, not in limited quantities and not for a limited time hurry up and throw me your credit card because you only have this one chance.

              People are tired of this crap and I am sure your product launch numbers will reveal this as you guy keep making last ditch efforts to prove that you still "got it" when you are spending more on media buys than you are making.

              WTF is Evergreen about a product you can only buy for 4 days before its not available? Thats not everygreen, thats brown bull****. Anyone can go rebrand and private label an infusionsoft product YAY! Awesome idea.

              I used to care what these syndicate asspuppets thought about me, but now I simply dont give a rip. They dont control the market and noboduy gives a piss about them as much as they like to think. They are only internet famous in internet marketing circles, anyone outside of these circles have no clue who these guys are and they dont matter AT ALL.

              Then again by using this "system" marketers are using deception anyway because it is NOT a live webinar in the first place "and your viewers wont know" so maybe you deserve the ass rape. I can put a video up on any page I want and pretend its a webinar. geeze

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        • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
          Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post


          The Evergreen Business System software is like 5 times more powerful.

          That's a pity. I was looking for something 6 times more powerful....
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        • Profile picture of the author zerofill
          Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

          That's incorrect. The Evergreen Business System is a whole new software in its own league, nothing to do with what you could find in the Internet Marketing Tools website. It's like comparing a Ford and a Porsche: both are cars, but they're simply in different leagues.

          The Evergreen Business System software is like 5 times more powerful.
          My mistake I liked the original script to. Wasn't trying to knock it or anything.
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        • Profile picture of the author magentawave
          Is there anyway to buy the product as it was before because I'm pretty sure it did everything I wanted it to do and I'm going to need it in about a month?

          Steve



          Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

          That's incorrect. The Evergreen Business System is a whole new software in its own league, nothing to do with what you could find in the Internet Marketing Tools website. It's like comparing a Ford and a Porsche: both are cars, but they're simply in different leagues.

          The Evergreen Business System software is like 5 times more powerful.
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          • Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

            Is there anyway to buy the product as it was before because I'm pretty sure it did everything I wanted it to do and I'm going to need it in about a month?

            Steve
            No sorry, the old product is not for sale anymore.
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        • Profile picture of the author richfit
          Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

          That's incorrect. The Evergreen Business System is a whole new software in its own league, nothing to do with what you could find in the Internet Marketing Tools website. It's like comparing a Ford and a Porsche: both are cars, but they're simply in different leagues.

          The Evergreen Business System software is like 5 times more powerful.
          Totally agree with you that EBS is at least 5 times more powerful. It's an automated webinar solution that NOTHING else can even touch right now. Mike and Hector put some incredible thought into this one.

          And I'm sure there were a ton of people that actually gave their feedback on the development of it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Maybe I'm just dumb, but I don't get the purpose of pre-recorded webinars vs just using a sales video.

    A pre-recorded webinar (designed to look like its currently happening) lacks the more crucial element of a webinars...speaking directly with the audience and answering their questions based on the content to motivate them to buy.

    Wouldn't people notice that their "live" webinar is not allowing for any audience involvement?

    Or...why not just record a webinar, and play it back as a sales video replay of the webinar?

    I must be missing something for this $500 investment...

    ~Dexx

    EDIT: Oh, nevermind, I scrolled down and see that you can have registrants show up on a list as if it were a live event, and they can email questions in for a later response--or the webinar hosted can have login and answer questions live...interesting concept!
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    • Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      Maybe I'm just dumb, but I don't get the purpose of pre-recorded webinars vs just using a sales video.

      A pre-recorded webinar (designed to look like its currently happening) lacks the more crucial element of a webinars...speaking directly with the audience and answering their questions based on the content to motivate them to buy.

      Wouldn't people notice that their "live" webinar is not allowing for any audience involvement?

      Or...why not just record a webinar, and play it back as a sales video replay of the webinar?

      I must be missing something for this $500 investment...

      ~Dexx

      EDIT: Oh, nevermind, I scrolled down and see that you can have registrants show up on a list as if it were a live event, and they can email questions in for a later response--or the webinar hosted can have login and answer questions live...interesting concept!
      Let me quote myself from another thread on this topic:
      The idea of a pre-recorded webinar is not to "cheat" your customers telling them it's a real-time webinar. The idea is to tell them it's an event, regardless of whether it's live or recorded.

      When someone chooses to sign up to your event at his desired date and time, he's in the right frame of mind to absorb your marketing message because he CHOSE his best suitable date/time according to his own schedule, and thus you've got his FULL ATTENTION!

      That's the strong point of pre-recorded webinars: in stead of forcing your customers to watch your video at your desired time, they do so at theirs, and that's why sales conversions are typically higher.

      Again, I must stress: this is not about "cheating" your prospects. It's about making a (pre-recorded) event out of your sales video, and make it play at your prospect's best suitable date/time... it works, and there's nothing unethical about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author .X.
    Dexx -

    I view it as something more akin to buying
    a movie ticket. Show times run at various
    hours every day. And if I know I have a
    movie I want to see occurring at a specific
    date/time I'm more likely to attend than if
    I could go any time.

    There *is* a lot to be said about building
    up to an event versus on demand.

    Being pre-recorded holds the "potential"
    for improving the quality of the session,
    both for the marketer and for the
    attendee.

    You can certainly open up Skype or another
    IM platform and answer questions in that
    way too - real time.

    The primary thing is that this is a system -
    there is quite a bit of setup work involved
    here. However once the setup is complete
    then it should run itself on autopilot and
    that's my goal with everything I do.

    If I had to do live webinars for everything it
    just wouldn't happen -

    And I think you'll see an evolution of
    "webinars" as people will certainly get tired
    of what we've come to know them as.

    The biggest concern for me (aside from
    will this software work as advertised) is
    that this method of promotion will reach
    saturation and it's going to REQUIRE more
    to stand out and above the inevitable
    garbage that will come with it.

    When are we going to see pre-recorded
    PLR webinars? I'd bet soon. :-)

    Congrats to the programmer, Hector Yague -
    *if* this actually works then this is a cool
    tool in the right hands.

    X
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    • Profile picture of the author thesuccesscoach
      i think it's a very interesting concept but agree that we will see this being used alot. however i think it's about thinking outside of the box really.

      there are many markets and many niches where people are not familiar with this so if one was to avoid internet marketing niche they could make a killing

      my fingers is hovering over the buy button!

      just need to justify it!
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  • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
    Still no honest to goodness reviews yet, other than from the guy who made it? Hmmm... sounds like there needs to be some spin control here.
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    • Profile picture of the author .X.
      Originally Posted by David Maschke View Post

      Still no honest to goodness reviews yet, other than from the guy who made it? Hmmm... sounds like there needs to be some spin control here.

      David -

      Excuse me for being a little terse, but
      when did this product launch?

      As I write this, yesterday. What the
      hell do you think you're going to get in
      the way of "an honest to goodness
      review"?

      I'm working on putting something together -
      have been since I paid cash for it yesterday.

      You might get a review from one of Mike's
      lackey's.

      Or you might get a review from a JV
      partner but you're not going to get an
      "honest to goodness review" from a
      customer.

      Now - I was an original Butterfly Marketing
      customer.

      It sucked. It was ****. The product was
      not delivered for nearly three weeks after
      I bought it - while Mike disappeared to
      Australia to sell more copies of it speaking
      from stage.

      It loused up launch plans I had.

      It pissed me off.

      I have been one of Mike Filsaime's most
      vocal critics over the years.

      It honestly pains me to admit I bought
      a Filsaime product and I'm excited about
      it.

      It's like I just bought a Lady Gaga
      album or Justin Bieber, you know.

      That plus I just bought, and recommended
      to my list, something else very similar -
      but this looks better.

      So . . . I also proceed with caution in
      saying "yeah, this is as great as it's
      advertised to be".

      Concept: great.
      Initial look under the hood: great
      Features: great
      Ease of use: very good
      Simplicity: great considering the complexity
      Drives like a champ: we'll see

      This is a complex system with a lot of
      moving parts and that always concerns me.

      Now . . . here's the feedback I will offer
      you.

      You're never going to KNOW anything
      in life unless you get off your ass, make
      an honest effort and do something.

      If you don't have $500 to risk, then don't.

      If you don't believe you'll do what it takes
      to make the investment work, don't.

      You will get good reviews.

      You will get bad reviews.

      Some will come from people with ulterior
      motives - others will come from people
      who have trouble brewing a cup of coffee.

      And in the meantime you're going to
      sit here waiting for someone else to
      take the chance, to do the work and
      report to you so you can him-n-haw.

      It's a mentality that drives me so
      freakin' nuts I want to kick your ass -
      not because I want to do serious
      physical harm to you but because you
      have a mentality that must get
      eradicated for your own damned good.

      Do you get it?

      So man up. Buy the freakin' script
      and make your best run for 30 days
      and if it doesn't work then ask Mike
      for your money back.

      That, or move on.

      X

      PS - My rant isn't over and what
      really ticks me off is I'm in the position
      of Filsaime apologist.

      Cheating? Is it "cheating" that the
      movie theater has play times when you
      could go watch the damned thing on
      demand right now?

      Look - we live in a land of liars and
      scumbags. We live amongst people
      who don't even realize they could
      easily tell the truth and people would
      still show and buy stuff. If you're
      seriously so mentally blocked by your
      "morality" then you have no freedom
      and there is nothing more immoral than
      that.

      Use your head. Take what's available
      and make it work. Sitting around and
      crying about how you got faked . . .

      Does it really freakin' matter if someone
      has to push a psychological button in
      order to get you up off the couch?

      That's what leaders do. That's what
      they have to do to get the herd to move.

      Moo

      PSS - I've probably totally over-reacted
      here but damn, this is fun. :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
        Originally Posted by .X. View Post

        David -

        Excuse me for being a little terse, but
        when did this product launch?

        As I write this, yesterday. What the
        hell do you think you're going to get in
        the way of "an honest to goodness
        review"?

        I'm working on putting something together -
        have been since I paid cash for it yesterday.

        You might get a review from one of Mike's
        lackey's.

        Or you might get a review from a JV
        partner but you're not going to get an
        "honest to goodness review" from a
        customer.

        Now - I was an original Butterfly Marketing
        customer.

        It sucked. It was ****. The product was
        not delivered for nearly three weeks after
        I bought it - while Mike disappeared to
        Australia to sell more copies of it speaking
        from stage.

        It loused up launch plans I had.

        It pissed me off.

        I have been one of Mike Filsaime's most
        vocal critics over the years.

        It honestly pains me to admit I bought
        a Filsaime product and I'm excited about
        it.

        It's like I just bought a Lady Gaga
        album or Justin Bieber, you know.

        That plus I just bought, and recommended
        to my list, something else very similar -
        but this looks better.

        So . . . I also proceed with caution in
        saying "yeah, this is as great as it's
        advertised to be".

        Concept: great.
        Initial look under the hood: great
        Features: great
        Ease of use: very good
        Simplicity: great considering the complexity
        Drives like a champ: we'll see

        This is a complex system with a lot of
        moving parts and that always concerns me.

        Now . . . here's the feedback I will offer
        you.

        You're never going to KNOW anything
        in life unless you get off your ass, make
        an honest effort and do something.

        If you don't have $500 to risk, then don't.

        If you don't believe you'll do what it takes
        to make the investment work, don't.

        You will get good reviews.

        You will get bad reviews.

        Some will come from people with ulterior
        motives - others will come from people
        who have trouble brewing a cup of coffee.

        And in the meantime you're going to
        sit here waiting for someone else to
        take the chance, to do the work and
        report to you so you can him-n-haw.

        It's a mentality that drives me so
        freakin' nuts I want to kick your ass -
        not because I want to do serious
        physical harm to you but because you
        have a mentality that must get
        eradicated for your own damned good.

        Do you get it?

        So man up. Buy the freakin' script
        and make your best run for 30 days
        and if it doesn't work then ask Mike
        for your money back.

        That, or move on.

        X

        PS - My rant isn't over and what
        really ticks me off is I'm in the position
        of Filsaime apologist.

        Cheating? Is it "cheating" that the
        movie theater has play times when you
        could go watch the damned thing on
        demand right now?

        Look - we live in a land of liars and
        scumbags. We live amongst people
        who don't even realize they could
        easily tell the truth and people would
        still show and buy stuff. If you're
        seriously so mentally blocked by your
        "morality" then you have no freedom
        and there is nothing more immoral than
        that.

        Use your head. Take what's available
        and make it work. Sitting around and
        crying about how you got faked . . .

        Does it really freakin' matter if someone
        has to push a psychological button in
        order to get you up off the couch?

        That's what leaders do. That's what
        they have to do to get the herd to move.

        Moo

        PSS - I've probably totally over-reacted
        here but damn, this is fun. :-)
        It was a joke dude, you know, the butterfly manuscript?

        He talks about spin control.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex.R
        Originally Posted by .X. View Post

        David -

        Excuse me for being a little terse, but
        when did this product launch?

        As I write this, yesterday. What the
        hell do you think you're going to get in
        the way of "an honest to goodness
        review"?

        I'm working on putting something together -
        have been since I paid cash for it yesterday.

        You might get a review from one of Mike's
        lackey's.

        Or you might get a review from a JV
        partner but you're not going to get an
        "honest to goodness review" from a
        customer.

        Now - I was an original Butterfly Marketing
        customer.

        It sucked. It was ****. The product was
        not delivered for nearly three weeks after
        I bought it - while Mike disappeared to
        Australia to sell more copies of it speaking
        from stage.

        It loused up launch plans I had.

        It pissed me off.

        I have been one of Mike Filsaime's most
        vocal critics over the years.

        It honestly pains me to admit I bought
        a Filsaime product and I'm excited about
        it.

        It's like I just bought a Lady Gaga
        album or Justin Bieber, you know.

        That plus I just bought, and recommended
        to my list, something else very similar -
        but this looks better.

        So . . . I also proceed with caution in
        saying "yeah, this is as great as it's
        advertised to be".

        Concept: great.
        Initial look under the hood: great
        Features: great
        Ease of use: very good
        Simplicity: great considering the complexity
        Drives like a champ: we'll see

        This is a complex system with a lot of
        moving parts and that always concerns me.

        Now . . . here's the feedback I will offer
        you.

        You're never going to KNOW anything
        in life unless you get off your ass, make
        an honest effort and do something.

        If you don't have $500 to risk, then don't.

        If you don't believe you'll do what it takes
        to make the investment work, don't.

        You will get good reviews.

        You will get bad reviews.

        Some will come from people with ulterior
        motives - others will come from people
        who have trouble brewing a cup of coffee.

        And in the meantime you're going to
        sit here waiting for someone else to
        take the chance, to do the work and
        report to you so you can him-n-haw.

        It's a mentality that drives me so
        freakin' nuts I want to kick your ass -
        not because I want to do serious
        physical harm to you but because you
        have a mentality that must get
        eradicated for your own damned good.

        Do you get it?

        So man up. Buy the freakin' script
        and make your best run for 30 days
        and if it doesn't work then ask Mike
        for your money back.

        That, or move on.

        X

        PS - My rant isn't over and what
        really ticks me off is I'm in the position
        of Filsaime apologist.

        Cheating? Is it "cheating" that the
        movie theater has play times when you
        could go watch the damned thing on
        demand right now?

        Look - we live in a land of liars and
        scumbags. We live amongst people
        who don't even realize they could
        easily tell the truth and people would
        still show and buy stuff. If you're
        seriously so mentally blocked by your
        "morality" then you have no freedom
        and there is nothing more immoral than
        that.

        Use your head. Take what's available
        and make it work. Sitting around and
        crying about how you got faked . . .

        Does it really freakin' matter if someone
        has to push a psychological button in
        order to get you up off the couch?

        That's what leaders do. That's what
        they have to do to get the herd to move.

        Moo

        PSS - I've probably totally over-reacted
        here but damn, this is fun. :-)
        Yes...it is Fun

        But make your posts a little more condensed...this takes up a lot of scrolling eyeball room
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg D
        Originally Posted by .X. View Post

        Now . . . here's the feedback I will offer
        you.

        You're never going to KNOW anything
        in life unless you get off your ass, make
        an honest effort and do something.

        If you don't have $500 to risk, then don't.

        If you don't believe you'll do what it takes
        to make the investment work, don't.

        You will get good reviews.

        You will get bad reviews.

        Some will come from people with ulterior
        motives - others will come from people
        who have trouble brewing a cup of coffee.

        And in the meantime you're going to
        sit here waiting for someone else to
        take the chance, to do the work and
        report to you so you can him-n-haw.

        It's a mentality that drives me so
        freakin' nuts I want to kick your ass -
        not because I want to do serious
        physical harm to you but because you
        have a mentality that must get
        eradicated for your own damned good.

        Do you get it?

        So man up. Buy the freakin' script
        and make your best run for 30 days
        and if it doesn't work then ask Mike
        for your money back.

        That, or move on.

        X

        Look - we live in a land of liars and
        scumbags. We live amongst people
        who don't even realize they could
        easily tell the truth and people would
        still show and buy stuff. If you're
        seriously so mentally blocked by your
        "morality" then you have no freedom
        and there is nothing more immoral than
        that.

        Use your head. Take what's available
        and make it work. Sitting around and
        crying about how you got faked . . .

        Does it really freakin' matter if someone
        has to push a psychological button in
        order to get you up off the couch?

        That's what leaders do. That's what
        they have to do to get the herd to move.

        Moo

        PSS - I've probably totally over-reacted
        here but damn, this is fun. :-)
        Preach it man!

        You are right on so many levels.

        Glad that someone said it. I would have said something liek it, although not as eloquently. :rolleyes:

        I bought it. Mainly I wanted it because of the ability to get the FULL php and html code. I don't like any of their registration design pages and I hate the webinar page where it streams your video.

        What I love is the structure behind it. The building blocks if you will.

        My experience thus far: I have set up a webinar already in less than 20 minutes with their default template and everything. Very quick and very intuitive. I have yet to modify the code... I will hand that off to one of my programmers with a PSD of the exactly design I want

        What I Like
        * The custom affiliate tracking, which means you can integrate it easily into almost any affiliate program

        * The simplicity of the interface - it is built very intuitively

        * No RTMP needed... most other automated webinars get too fancy, E.G. if your webinar starts at 6:00 pm and someone logs in at 6:07 pm, the video jumps and plays 7 minutes in for THAT user. If another user comes in at 6:23 it jumps to 23 minutes in. This requires you to set up RTMP, which is a pain. The way Evergreen Business sytem works is you have two options.. either start the video from the beginning for every user, or start it at ONE certain point for people who enter late...

        * the way you can append your URL strings to add tracking, affiliate info and other stuff is pure genius



        * the ability to host and edit the php files generated. (as already mentioned...)

        * the instructional videos are good and thorough. (for some reason those they made them .mov files instead of mp4s...)

        What I Don't Like

        * The designs. You can tell that this is one of the most neglected areas of the product. However, if you know php/css you can hack the designs. They have an option for building your own template right in their interface, but I tried it and didn't like how it worked. For example in the "custom html code" section I tried to put a link to a CSS file, and it didn't work...

        *If you host it, you have to create a mysql database and also a cron job. FOR EVERY WEBINAR you create. Not a HUGE deal but I would have preferred an installer file instead that I could run which would set up the required info for me (like we do for our software we develop).

        That's really all I can think of for the downsides.

        For your average user, you probably don't need to worry so much about the designs and hosting it yourself. Just get it up and going and you should be good.

        If you want to be ultra-competitive though because you're in a tough niche, you're going to have to create unique designs yourself and figure out how to integrate, and host the webinars on your own servers.

        I am very satisfied with my purchase.
        Now this review I am impressed with. I had the pleasure of meeting Jason at the WF marketing event in NC in June. I got to hear him speak at that same event as well.

        I do not feel that Jason would endorse something like this when he has the ability and the moxy to say it sucks if it did. He has made a LOT of money in the webinar game himself,a nd develops software with his company also.

        With that all being said, I do have a question for the actual users as I am also about to pull the trigger myself.

        The automated email reminder system. Is that using the host's send mail feature? Would this work on an Amazon AWS hosting account?
        Or is everyone using some sort of cPanel and HostGator to host this?

        I appreciate any feedback.

        Thanks for the interesting read.



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  • Profile picture of the author Vincenzo Oliva
    One thing that's confusing and I've not been able to clarify before purchasing is whether or not this can be a stand-alone script or do you need to log into the membership site every time you want to create a webinar.

    Can the entire webinar creation dashboard be installed on your host and run independently?
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    • Originally Posted by Vincenzo Oliva View Post

      One thing that's confusing and I've not been able to clarify before purchasing is whether or not this can be a stand-alone script or do you need to log into the membership site every time you want to create a webinar.

      Can the entire webinar creation dashboard be installed on your host and run independently?
      The configuration dashboard is hosted in our members area: You login, configure your webinar as per your desired settings, and then either...
      • Click on "Generate Webinar", and the system gives you a ZIP file with all the files you in fact upload to your server.
      • Alternatively, you click on the "Host It In Our Servers" button, and you dont even need to upload anything because the system automatically hosts the webinar in our servers.
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    • Profile picture of the author James Campbell
      Originally Posted by Vincenzo Oliva View Post

      One thing that's confusing and I've not been able to clarify before purchasing is whether or not this can be a stand-alone script or do you need to log into the membership site every time you want to create a webinar.

      Can the entire webinar creation dashboard be installed on your host and run independently?
      It is a standalone as far as I know.

      If it weren't, then I would be less inclined to buy.

      Our team is looking at purchasing this in the next couple of days because it fits perfectly with what we have planned.

      From the video and salespage, the impression I got is that it is a self-hosted solution, with no recurring fees.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alminc
        I was recently invited to such 'event' by someone.

        It took me a while to realise it's all fake.

        And it was cheating since the part of the email message
        I received was 'this will not be recorded so make sure
        you take notes...'
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        • Originally Posted by Alminc View Post

          I was recently invited to such 'event' by someone.

          It took me a while to realise it's all fake.

          And it was cheating since the part of the email message
          I received was 'this will not be recorded so make sure
          you take notes...
          '
          You see? that's precisely what you do NOT want to do. You don't want to stage a pre-recorded webinar as if it was live. That's what might get you in troubles. Like I said before, it's about announcing your webinar as a scheduled event, not as a live event. Big difference there.

          If you do that, no one will complain, your prospects will benefit from your presentation, and your conversions will improve
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  • Originally Posted by James Campbell View Post

    From the video and salespage, the impression I got is that it is a self-hosted solution, with no recurring fees.
    That is correct. Regardless of whether you decide to host your webinars on your own server or on our servers (the software gives you both options), there are NO recurring monthly fees of any type at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wealth Mentor
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      That is correct. Regardless of whether you decide to host your webinars on your own server or on our servers....there are NO recurring monthly fees of any type at all.
      Hector, are you saying that if we host our events on your servers, you are absorbing all the bandwidth costs for all these automated webinars everyone will now be running...at no cost to us...forever?!?!

      Explain how that works, cause I can't fathom that being possible.
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      • Originally Posted by Wealth Mentor View Post

        Hector, are you saying that if we host our events on your servers, you are absorbing all the bandwidth costs for all these automated webinars everyone will now be running...at no cost to us...forever?!?!
        That is 100% correct.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChadH
    We picked it up. I have a student who is currently doing 15k/mth working 10 hrs a week with a modified auto webinar setup of sorts. I expect he will be at 45k and 5 hrs per week in a couple months. This is outside the IM niche and currently his webinars are not fully automated.

    So, thats part of the potential anyway, and to answer dexxs concerns.

    As for the script. It seems very very powerful and simple to use. I setup a webinar tonight in a couple hours while learning the software.

    Now, there are a couple small bugs that ive submitted to tech support. Not mission critical things but definitely would want them fixed for a real setup.

    Ill let you guys know the speed of support, but from first use it seems very powerful. Im always a bit concerned when a company doesnt charge monthly. I know that sounds weird, but its an issue of ongoing support capacity/budget.

    But if these small issues get fixed in a timely manner, i can see a lot of creative applications in it for high ticket, and even lower ticket stuff like cpa offers.

    And if ebs doesnt work out, there is always stealth seminar.... But i got faith, seems really badass so far (lol, how do i get filsaimes actual webinar reg template, its very clean).
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    • Originally Posted by ChadH View Post

      We picked it up. I have a student who is currently doing 15k/mth working 10 hrs a week with a modified auto webinar setup of sorts. I expect he will be at 45k and 5 hrs per week in a couple months. This is outside the IM niche and currently his webinars are not fully automated.

      So, thats part of the potential anyway, and to answer dexxs concerns.

      As for the script. It seems very very powerful and simple to use. I setup a webinar tonight in a couple hours while learning the software.

      Now, there are a couple small bugs that ive submitted to tech support. Not mission critical things but definitely would want them fixed for a real setup.

      Ill let you guys know the speed of support, but from first use it seems very powerful. Im always a bit concerned when a company doesnt charge monthly. I know that sounds weird, but its an issue of ongoing support capacity/budget.

      But if these small issues get fixed in a timely manner, i can see a lot of creative applications in it for high ticket, and even lower ticket stuff like cpa offers.

      And if ebs doesnt work out, there is always stealth seminar.... But i got faith, seems really badass so far (lol, how do i get filsaimes actual webinar reg template, its very clean).
      Hey there,

      If you dont get answer from support today, simply PM and I will review those bugs for you personally.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clayton Johnston
    Hi Team,

    I just purchased the evergreen system and I hope it is easy to work with seamlessly...

    There was an upgrade offer for advanced training and teaching... Can anyone let me know how much this was ?

    Does it look like it is worth the money....

    Any feedback will be appreciated

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    • Originally Posted by Clayton Johnston View Post

      There was an upgrade offer for advanced training and teaching... Can anyone let me know how much this was ?
      It is $197 and it teaches you how to create the PERFECT webinar presentation according to our vast experience in the matter. The idea is to teach you what type of webinars pull out the highest conversions.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Fladlien
        I bought it. Mainly I wanted it because of the ability to get the FULL php and html code. I don't like any of their registration design pages and I hate the webinar page where it streams your video.

        What I love is the structure behind it. The building blocks if you will.

        My experience thus far: I have set up a webinar already in less than 20 minutes with their default template and everything. Very quick and very intuitive. I have yet to modify the code... I will hand that off to one of my programmers with a PSD of the exactly design I want

        What I Like
        * The custom affiliate tracking, which means you can integrate it easily into almost any affiliate program

        * The simplicity of the interface - it is built very intuitively

        * No RTMP needed... most other automated webinars get too fancy, E.G. if your webinar starts at 6:00 pm and someone logs in at 6:07 pm, the video jumps and plays 7 minutes in for THAT user. If another user comes in at 6:23 it jumps to 23 minutes in. This requires you to set up RTMP, which is a pain. The way Evergreen Business sytem works is you have two options.. either start the video from the beginning for every user, or start it at ONE certain point for people who enter late...

        * the way you can append your URL strings to add tracking, affiliate info and other stuff is pure genius



        * the ability to host and edit the php files generated. (as already mentioned...)

        * the instructional videos are good and thorough. (for some reason those they made them .mov files instead of mp4s...)

        What I Don't Like

        * The designs. You can tell that this is one of the most neglected areas of the product. However, if you know php/css you can hack the designs. They have an option for building your own template right in their interface, but I tried it and didn't like how it worked. For example in the "custom html code" section I tried to put a link to a CSS file, and it didn't work...

        *If you host it, you have to create a mysql database and also a cron job. FOR EVERY WEBINAR you create. Not a HUGE deal but I would have preferred an installer file instead that I could run which would set up the required info for me (like we do for our software we develop).

        That's really all I can think of for the downsides.

        For your average user, you probably don't need to worry so much about the designs and hosting it yourself. Just get it up and going and you should be good.

        If you want to be ultra-competitive though because you're in a tough niche, you're going to have to create unique designs yourself and figure out how to integrate, and host the webinars on your own servers.

        I am very satisfied with my purchase.
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        • Originally Posted by Jason Fladlien View Post

          What I Don't Like

          * The designs. You can tell that this is one of the most neglected areas of the product. However, if you know php/css you can hack the designs. They have an option for building your own template right in their interface, but I tried it and didn't like how it worked. For example in the "custom html code" section I tried to put a link to a CSS file, and it didn't work...
          Jason, funny you mention the design because our designer has just delivered the pro designs. We didnt manage to implement them before launch, but now we have them and they will be ready within 48 hours... totally free of charge for customers of course

          Take a look at some of the new designs:

          Originally Posted by Jason Fladlien View Post

          If you host it, you have to create a mysql database and also a cron job. FOR EVERY WEBINAR you create. Not a HUGE deal but I would have preferred an installer file instead that I could run which would set up the required info for me (like we do for our software we develop).
          That's because each webinar has its own tracking stats, it's own schedules, etc. Therefore, each of them requires its own database. But as you know, if you don't want to deal with any of that, simply host it in our server which is free and we do all that for you automatically

          Originally Posted by Jason Fladlien View Post

          I am very satisfied with my purchase.
          Happy to hear that!
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          • Profile picture of the author pokerdawg
            Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

            That's because each webinar has its own tracking stats, it's own schedules, etc. Therefore, each of them requires its own database. But as you know, if you don't want to deal with any of that, simply host it in our server which is free and we do all that for
            But why not use one database and just add a webinarid field? Would be much easier than 20 databases for 20 webinars.
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            • Profile picture of the author Wealth Mentor
              Hmmmm...what about pokerdawg's suggestion, Hector? It sounds like a better alternative than creating a new database every webinar.

              Originally Posted by pokerdawg View Post

              But why not use one database and just add a webinarid field? Would be much easier than 20 databases for 20 webinars.
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        • Profile picture of the author Izesta
          Originally Posted by Jason Fladlien View Post

          I bought it. Mainly I wanted it because of the ability to get the FULL php and html code. I don't like any of their registration design pages and I hate the webinar page where it streams your video. ......


          Hey Jason, thanks for your review. Your opinion is always valued.

          Can you share what you didn't like about the actual webinar page? I know a few of these automated webinar services have a webinar screen page that is too small - kinda looks like a slightly larger youtube video screen versus a webinar page like go-to-webinar.

          Was size the issue, or was it something else?
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    • Profile picture of the author richfit
      Originally Posted by Clayton Johnston View Post

      Hi Team,

      I just purchased the evergreen system and I hope it is easy to work with seamlessly...

      There was an upgrade offer for advanced training and teaching... Can anyone let me know how much this was ?

      Does it look like it is worth the money....

      Any feedback will be appreciated

      Have a great day
      Clayton, was is worth the $500? Absolutely, because there are similar products on the market that people are paying $97 per month right now and they don't even TOUCH Mike's Evergreen Business System to be honest.

      I already have 2 automated webinars completely setup! They rock!
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  • Profile picture of the author Netafile
    Hector,

    Love the new designs. Is there a way to get more copy below the design?
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    • Originally Posted by Netafile View Post

      Hector,

      Love the new designs. Is there a way to get more copy below the design?
      Yes, you can add rich-text and also your own HTML code below.
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      • Profile picture of the author zsolt
        I have been seriously considering buying this service, even though it is a lot of money for me. More than half of my monthly wage. So...

        But I really dig the idea and if it works as promised it should be an invaluable tool in the hands of a smart entrepreneur.

        I do have some concerns though:

        how easy is it to translate the various pages into an other language? I know you can create your own headlines, etc. in the admin panel, but what about the other elements of a page? I don't mind editing html and php files, but I need to know if it's possible.

        is it possible to replace the built in videos with your own custom video? I'd hate to have my Hungarian prospects listen to English videos, even though most of them would probably understand.

        Thanks,
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        • Originally Posted by zsolt View Post

          how easy is it to translate the various pages into an other language? I know you can create your own headlines, etc. in the admin panel, but what about the other elements of a page? I don't mind editing html and php files, but I need to know if it's possible.

          is it possible to replace the built in videos with your own custom video? I'd hate to have my Hungarian prospects listen to English videos, even though most of them would probably understand.
          1) You can dig into the PHP code and translate manually the English lines into your language if you want. Obviously, you need to know your way around PHP code.

          2) Yes, we offer you template videos in English, but you can certainly embed your own videos if you wish.
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  • Profile picture of the author thesuccesscoach
    hum i just checked of the 4 services where you can host your webinar only one works
    eWebinars.com, StreamingWebinarService.net, WebinarMeetingRoom.com, DigitalWebinars.com

    the first one, one does not exist, the other two are giving a forbidden message, that is kind of a worry at this point
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    • Originally Posted by thesuccesscoach View Post

      hum i just checked of the 4 services where you can host your webinar only one works
      eWebinars.com, StreamingWebinarService.net, WebinarMeetingRoom.com, DigitalWebinars.com

      the first one, one does not exist, the other two are giving a forbidden message, that is kind of a worry at this point
      ALL our hosting servers function just fine. Check them out by yourself: eWebinars , Webinar Meeting Room, Online Webinar Service and Digital Webinars

      Plus you forgot to include our latest addition: Onto Webinar We keep on adding new ones as our customer base grows! We got a SUPER (expensive!) server that can take humungous amount of traffic without a problem.
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      • Profile picture of the author dhsemp
        Are you kidding me about the aforementioned hosting server sites for the webinars?!?! They are all made-up "junk" template sites:

        in reference to the above "ALL our hosting servers function just fine. Check them out by yourself: eWebinars , Webinar Meeting Room, Online Webinar Service and Digital Webinars. Plus you forgot to include our latest addition: Onto Webinar"

        Click any of the links on each of the aforementioned websites and you'll see they all have the same landing page and when you click the actual links on the homepage, they all take you to template pages with dumby text.

        What are they trying to pull here?

        Very strange... I would stick to a professional automated webinar service like stealthseminar. Just my 2 cents.

        Thanks - Derek
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        • Profile picture of the author Dexx
          Originally Posted by dhsemp View Post

          I would stick to a professional automated webinar service like stealthseminar. Just my 2 cents.

          Thanks - Derek
          I didn't even know there were other alternatives, thanks for the head's up!

          I actually just took a look the comparison page here:
          Compare Us | Stealth Seminar (non-aff)

          My only concern still (and one that was mentioned earlier in the thread) is the fact that EBS is a one-time payment...my past experiences with one-time payment SAAS products is that support/updates for the product dwindle once sales dwindle (post-initial buzz)

          At least with monthly payments there's an incentive (and expectation) of constant updates and support for the platform...is this a fair concern? I'd say so...

          ~Dexx
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          • Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

            My only concern still (and one that was mentioned earlier in the thread) is the fact that EBS is a one-time payment...my past experiences with one-time payment SAAS products is that support/updates for the product dwindle once sales dwindle (post-initial buzz)
            This is not a product launch. This is a product release and we intend to keep on generating sales and customers for MANY moons, establishing ourselves as the industry bench mark (I believe we already are). In fact, we keep on implementing new features, design templates, hosting servers, etc.

            So don't worry, we're here to stay.
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            • Profile picture of the author elliek
              Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

              This is not a product launch. This is a product release and we intend to keep on generating sales and customers for MANY moons, establishing ourselves as the industry bench mark (I believe we already are). In fact, we keep on implementing new features, design templates, hosting servers, etc.

              So don't worry, we're here to stay.

              I don't understand. In Mike's Sales pitch it says this will go off of the market this Thursday (8/11) and not be avaliable again for a long time- yet here you say it will be on the market. So- I don't have to buy by this Thurs and can get this in the near future when I am more flush cash-wise? If this this made-up scaricity (again)- I really wish you all would stop doing that- it hurts your crediability.
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              • Profile picture of the author Izesta
                Originally Posted by elliek View Post

                I don't understand. In Mike's Sales pitch it says this will go off of the market this Thursday (8/11) and not be avaliable again for a long time- yet here you say it will be on the market. So- I don't have to buy by this Thurs and can get this in the near future when I am more flush cash-wise? If this this made-up scaricity (again)- I really wish you all would stop doing that- it hurts your crediability.

                The dudes in this league will ALWAYS use the scarcity ploy or some other "you gotta buy now" mantra.

                Frankly, I was a bit pissed that latecomers were able to test drive the product for just $1.00. That was unfair that the 1st group didn't get that option.

                I already heard the product might be for sale again in early September. Sales must not have been what they expected.
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                • Profile picture of the author magentawave
                  What difference does the one dollar trial make when you have an MBG regardless of which price plan you choose?


                  Originally Posted by Izesta View Post

                  The dudes in this league will ALWAYS use the scarcity ploy or some other "you gotta buy now" mantra.

                  Frankly, I was a bit pissed that latecomers were able to test drive the product for just $1.00. That was unfair that the 1st group didn't get that option.

                  I already heard the product might be for sale again in early September. Sales must not have been what they expected.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Izesta
                    Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

                    What difference does the one dollar trial make when you have an MBG regardless of which price plan you choose?

                    If I don't have complete faith in you because of your history with other people and other transactions, I'd rather have $1.00 at risk and out of my account versus $500.00.

                    Makes a big difference.

                    Why do you think Mike proposed that option it if didn't make a difference? The only reason marketers use the $1.00 trial is take the risk off the buyer - for whatever reason the buyer feels there is a risk. Be it a poor end product or a seller they don't know or trust.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Izesta
                      Don't know if anyone else has found this, but there were lots of problems with functionality using IE 8. Most annoying was that some information selected or entered was lost when I logged back on.

                      If you run across problems, try Firefox.

                      I'm a bit more satisfied with the product for now - in terms of the setup..

                      BUT 2 BIG issues.

                      Anonymous Affiliate, if you read this, please take a look at the attached file. Note that the webinar event time is screwed up. The choices were correct when I used the sign-up page, but then got changed on the registration confirmation to 12 midnight on December 31. Needless to say, major problem.

                      Attachment 9748

                      And #2, no email confirmations were ever transmitted.

                      When I manually logged into the webinar at the start time, it did not start. Instead, after the countdown stopped, a page popped up to select a start time and day and email - kinda starting all over again.

                      Please advise if you have any heads up on this. I have triple checked and can't see that it's anything I'm doing wrong.

                      Thanks
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                      • Profile picture of the author Izesta
                        Anonymous Affiliate, my apologies.

                        I just read that you don't want to have support questions here.

                        I'll try Mike's support, but can't believe something as basic as this is an issue. This should be webinar 101 and should work w/o a support question.
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                    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
                      Dude, whatever the issues (like lousy customer service), he's not going to NOT honor his MBG because he knows the customer will dispute the charge and then he gets hit with a fee. The one dollar trial is a marketing ploy pure and simple that probably tests well. Besides, didn't the one dollar trial ultimately cost you substantially more than just paying the $497 upfront?


                      Originally Posted by Izesta View Post

                      If I don't have complete faith in you because of your history with other people and other transactions, I'd rather have $1.00 at risk and out of my account versus $500.00.

                      Makes a big difference.

                      Why do you think Mike proposed that option it if didn't make a difference? The only reason marketers use the $1.00 trial is take the risk off the buyer - for whatever reason the buyer feels there is a risk. Be it a poor end product or a seller they don't know or trust.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Izesta
                        Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

                        Dude, whatever the issues (like lousy customer service), he's not going to NOT honor his MBG because he knows the customer will dispute the charge and then he gets hit with a fee. The one dollar trial is a marketing ploy pure and simple that probably tests well. Besides, didn't the one dollar trial ultimately cost you substantially more than just paying the $497 upfront?

                        Dude ??

                        No need to debate this magentawave. We each have our opinion and that's cool.
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            • Profile picture of the author ceecee12
              Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

              This is not a product launch. This is a product release and we intend to keep on generating sales and customers for MANY moons, establishing ourselves as the industry bench mark (I believe we already are). In fact, we keep on implementing new features, design templates, hosting servers, etc.

              So don't worry, we're here to stay.

              Hector-
              unfortunately I just stumbled upon this thread today only to find that it has been closed.

              However, I see that it is set to re-open Sept. 1.

              In your post above you stated "This is a product release and we intend to keep on generating sales and customers for MANY moons,"

              Am I to understand that since it wasn't a traditional 'launch', that when it re-opens, the pricing will remain the same?

              I certainly hope so as I am very interested in this--wish I had seen it sooner.

              Thanks
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              • Profile picture of the author scottmanesis
                Originally Posted by ceecee12 View Post

                Hector-
                unfortunately I just stumbled upon this thread today only to find that it has been closed.

                However, I see that it is set to re-open Sept. 1.

                In your post above you stated "This is a product release and we intend to keep on generating sales and customers for MANY moons,"

                Am I to understand that since it wasn't a traditional 'launch', that when it re-opens, the pricing will remain the same?

                I certainly hope so as I am very interested in this--wish I had seen it sooner.

                Thanks
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                Dude, why wait? Throw a video on a page and sell whatever you want webinar style in the video.....I dont see how the result would be any different, you can get a timer countdown script, probably for free in the WSO area if you think thats a cool feature of the video being an EVENT rather than just a video even though that is plainly what it is.
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                • Profile picture of the author AdamHolland
                  Wow - lots of really naive comments in this thread..

                  Re: $1 trial at the end of the launch. :: It's called CASHFLOW. Get what you can upfront to cover your costs in realtime.. Otherwise if everyone was on the $1 trial you've got all of the development costs, customer service costs, and tech support costs sucking cash from your back account... meanwhile you've got more 'no-so-serious customers' BECAUSE of the $1 entry point. It makes perfect business sense.

                  Re: Opening and closing the launch only to reopen. :: Dealing w/ an ebook, course, or membership site.. I think that's just sketchy. And yea, I'm sure it's a good sales technique (scarcity, urgency, etc..) But, again, we're not talking about that. We're talking about SOFTWARE here, which I can't believe Mike was still offering 40% commission on. DAMN! There's alot more tech support and bugs that need to get worked out on a launch.

                  (( I just launched a VERY sophisticated membership site and marketing platform. $60k in development costs.. SO FAR. I only did a 'soft launch' to get 100 members and the project is about break even. I closed it at 100 members not for scarcity, but because I'm building it in stages. Had 5 beta testers. Got bugs out of the system. Added on another 20 beta testers/review copies. Got out more bugs. Mini-launch.. Adding new features, getting out more bugs. Will relaunch in another 2 weeks and go to 250-500 members. Why wait? Hired a customer support rep, hired another programmer, developing people to be coaches on the backend, etc.. It's called SCALING a business ;-) ))

                  Re: bonuses - ARE THERE ANY SUPER AFFILIATES STILL OFFERING BONUSES FOR THE REOPEN?

                  I saw Rich Schefren's bonuses were supposed to be the best on the thread, but there's no mention of what they are or where to find out. Googled it and couldn't find it either.

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        • Originally Posted by dhsemp View Post

          Are you kidding me about the aforementioned hosting server sites for the webinars?!?! They are all made-up "junk" template sites:
          I don't think you understood the point of those sites... they're HOSTING servers... They only serve to host our customers' webinar files, so our customers don't need to pay for their own hosting server, and we provide the hosting for FREE.

          Originally Posted by dhsemp View Post

          I would stick to a professional automated webinar service like stealthseminar. Just my 2 cents.
          I am glad you mention it, because I ACTUALLY BEG YOU to compare us with ANY other automated service... There's a VERY comprehensive table that compares us with the competition here: Evergreen Business Model vs. Competition (scroll a bit down in that page). I repeat, I BEG YOU to look into that table and decide for yourself which is the best service.

          Seriously, I don't mean to be difficult or anything, but I'd appreciate if before spreading false information you would research or educate yourself on the info you're commenting on.
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  • Profile picture of the author thesuccesscoach
    ok grand as they weren't working a little while ago

    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author ZaneZenMaster
    It's simply a version 2 to "automated webinar generator," which is an amazing product, most guru's like Frank Kern used it and still does to market.
    This is way worth it because it's version 2 bundled with a sales page creator, if you pay the 497 that is.
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    • Originally Posted by ZaneZenMaster View Post

      It's simply a version 2 to "automated webinar generator," which is an amazing product, most guru's like Frank Kern used it and still does to market.
      This is way worth it because it's version 2 bundled with a sales page creator, if you pay the 497 that is.
      Believe me, this is much more than version 2... this is simply the best in the market - in my humble opinion, of course :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    After going through the competitor comparison list, I definitely have a better impression of the product (the heat map tracking feature is awesome!)

    A few quick questions:

    1) Is there any plans to allow integration with Easy Video Player (and/or Amazon S3 hosting of the videos)

    2) How long would it take a reasonably tech-comfortable person to upload and install the webinar system into their own platform?

    3) Can the webinars be hosted anywhere (i.e. sub-pages of the domain) or can only one webinar be hosted on the main domain section?

    4) When it comes to the populating of names for the seminar attendees, do we have the ability to edit/add our own list of names to be used if we prefer to not use the "generic" ones which might be noticed after a while (once many people begin visiting these pre-recorded events)

    I also like the new template designs shared above, I agree my initial reaction to the first batch of templates wasn't so great, but more variety of clean-looking templates designed for optimal conversion will definitely win people over

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    • Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      1) Is there any plans to allow integration with Easy Video Player (and/or Amazon S3 hosting of the videos)
      Amazon S3 is already integrated, and we've already talked to the man behind EVP for a future integration.

      Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      2) How long would it take a reasonably tech-comfortable person to upload and install the webinar system into their own platform?
      Absolutely no time. I dunno, let's say 20 minutes? there are tutorial videos hand-holding you all through the process. You simply mimic what the video does, and you're good to go.

      Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      3) Can the webinars be hosted anywhere (i.e. sub-pages of the domain) or can only one webinar be hosted on the main domain section?
      Anywhere you want. No restrictions.

      Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      4) When it comes to the populating of names for the seminar attendees, do we have the ability to edit/add our own list of names to be used if we prefer to not use the "generic" ones which might be noticed after a while (once many people begin visiting these pre-recorded events)
      Yes, you can either display names from the real attendees, or display simulated names from the built-in list, or you can edit the built-in list to insert/delete those simulated names at will.
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      • Profile picture of the author dhsemp
        Hi guys,

        I haven't purchased either product yet so I'm still up in the air, but don't take all the comparisons as face value. Check out this video that the owner of StealthSeminar created. Sounds like there's some serious disagreements about the capability comparisons:

        Just something to consider.

        Thanks - Derek
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        • Profile picture of the author Izesta
          Originally Posted by dhsemp View Post

          Hi guys,

          I haven't purchased either product yet so I'm still up in the air, but don't take all the comparisons as face value. Check out this video that the owner of StealthSeminar created. Sounds like there's some serious disagreements about the capability comparisons:
          ‪Mike Filsaimes Evergreen Business Systems Help‬‏ - YouTube

          Just something to consider.

          Thanks - Derek

          Well damn. Why the heck would they do something like that? Doesn't leave me feeling warm & cozy at all. The dude in the video was unbelievably pleasant and professional. Cuz I imagine he must be pretty pissed. Goes to show what kind of power Mike F has. I'm sure he would have not had that same kind of "mild" reaction had "I" misrepresented his product like that.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dexx
          Originally Posted by dhsemp View Post

          Hi guys,

          I haven't purchased either product yet so I'm still up in the air, but don't take all the comparisons as face value. Check out this video that the owner of StealthSeminar created. Sounds like there's some serious disagreements about the capability comparisons:
          ‪Mike Filsaimes Evergreen Business Systems Help‬‏ - YouTube

          Just something to consider.

          Thanks - Derek
          Not to defend the product owners (since I'm not connected with them), but I did review the comparison chart earlier and it seems they have already updated it since the features marked X in the video have checkmarks now.

          Might fault them for not thoroughly investigating the chart, but maybe they did the charts based on the sales pages...dunno...

          But its updated now

          ~Dexx
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        • Profile picture of the author Folusho Orokunle
          I looked at this solution, Stealth Seminar, months before EBS came about, but they're currently closed. I joined the notification list but they're still closed. So unless I'm missing something, I couldn't even sign up if I thought their product was better. Does anyone have any feedback on this?

          P.S. It took me about 45 mins to create my first webinar. I got an error when trying to host it myself because you have to create a database. I must have skipped the part in the tutorials that cover that. The process was pretty easy though.

          I don't like how most of the registration pages or the webinar page looks. Mike's version that he uses looks WAAAAAAy better. I guess I have to customize it. If anyone know somebody that is good at the customization part, please let me know.

          But yes, the system work, you just have to tweak it to make it unique.
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          • Profile picture of the author magentawave
            Why would you want to use your own host instead of just using Evergreen to host your webinars?



            Originally Posted by Folusho Orokunle View Post

            I looked at this solution, Stealth Seminar, months before EBS came about, but they're currently closed. I joined the notification list but they're still closed. So unless I'm missing something, I couldn't even sign up if I thought their product was better. Does anyone have any feedback on this?

            P.S. It took me about 45 mins to create my first webinar. I got an error when trying to host it myself because you have to create a database. I must have skipped the part in the tutorials that cover that. The process was pretty easy though.

            I don't like how most of the registration pages or the webinar page looks. Mike's version that he uses looks WAAAAAAy better. I guess I have to customize it. If anyone know somebody that is good at the customization part, please let me know.

            But yes, the system work, you just have to tweak it to make it unique.
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          • Originally Posted by Folusho Orokunle View Post

            I got an error when trying to host it myself because you have to create a database. I must have skipped the part in the tutorials that cover that. The process was pretty easy though.
            Yes there's a section of the training videos that explains how to create the database. Please review the tutorial videos again.

            Originally Posted by Folusho Orokunle View Post

            I don't like how most of the registration pages or the webinar page looks. Mike's version that he uses looks WAAAAAAy better.
            Did you see the template we introduced today? it's based EXACTLY like the one Mike had on his own webinar. Check below. By the way, we're adding a new template within 3 days, and it'll be called "The Stylish Theme"... it'll be aimed for "serious" niches like Real State, medical care, etc.
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            • Profile picture of the author Folusho Orokunle
              Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

              Yes there's a section of the training videos that explains how to create the database. Please review the tutorial videos again.



              Did you see the template we introduced today? it's based EXACTLY like the one Mike had on his own webinar. Check below. By the way, we're adding a new template within 3 days, and it'll be called "The Stylish Theme"... it'll be aimed for "serious" niches like Real State, medical care, etc.
              I wanted to be able to using my own affiliate tracking, customization and because I "thought" it would make more sense to have it on my own domain name. The affiliate tracking looked as if it only works with clickbank unless I missed something(which I probably did).

              I was definitely able to setup a webinar easier on your domains though.
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              • Originally Posted by Folusho Orokunle View Post

                I wanted to be able to using my own affiliate tracking, customization and because I "thought" it would make more sense to have it on my own domain name. The affiliate tracking looked as if it only works with clickbank unless I missed something(which I probably did).
                Yes, you did miss it. I recommend you to go through the tutorial videos. You can indeed embed your own tracking system and it works with ALL networks, not just clickbank: plimus, paydotcom, ejunky, CPA networks, etc.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dexx
              Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

              By the way, we're adding a new template within 3 days, and it'll be called "The Stylish Theme"... it'll be aimed for "serious" niches like Real State, medical care, etc.
              Can you share a preview pic of it?

              ~Dexx
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              • Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

                Can you share a preview pic of it?

                ~Dexx
                Here it is attached below.

                PS: Our designer just gave us our next template: The Panoramic Template. It will feature a wall-to-wall panoramic video, with the registration form below.
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                • Profile picture of the author zsolt
                  Now, what is this thing about the Evergreen Business System closing its doors to new customerts in a few days and won't reopen again for an uncertain period of time?? And of course, the price will be "different" when they do re-open.

                  I don't know...but this seems sooo product launch-ish (if that is a word). "Hurry up, because we are closing soon and won't reopen until next year. This is your last chance to get this most awesome product at such an incredible low price."

                  Come on guys, we have all heard this too many times. I guess, scarcity still is an indispensible tool in the IMer's arsenal, no matter what they say. Too bad the sales video talks about how everybody is fed up with product launches already. Guess what, we are. So keep the damn thing available, would you please!

                  Sorry, this has been a rant on my part, because I just wanted to arrange some credits with my bank so I could buy the evergreen business system. Seems like I'm too late to the game.

                  Hope, when you reopen, the price won't be too "different".

                  Zsolt
                  (Hungary)

                  PS: Don't get me wrong, I still believe in this product and still think it has great potential. And still wanna buy it. But I did not expect its creators to pull this thing off the market. Kind of made me sad.
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                  • Profile picture of the author goindeep
                    Yeah, i dont know, i seen the videos and all that... mmm... i dunno.

                    Personally im not into over priced stuff. Ive always been that way.

                    No doubt Filasaimes system is good, probably even great.

                    But the thing with me is that IM products, softwares, business systems or whatever are tools for me. Kind of like a car; gets me from A to B... but unless i was filthy rich id never buy a ferrari or lamborghini...

                    I think all the BIG guys in IM are doing most of the same stuff you can find elsewhere for less price. Some of the best stuff ive found is on this forum, some on blogs, websites and countless books i have read.

                    I have even purchased one of the big boys BIG products before, not naming names, hehe... and to be honest... it was the biggest piece of s**t i ever paid.
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                    • Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

                      Yeah, i dont know, i seen the videos and all that... mmm... i dunno.

                      Personally im not into over priced stuff. Ive always been that way.
                      Over-priced? hmmm I'm not sure what you'd call over-priced, but we've made an OBSCENE amount of money by using automated webinars, the very same software you can buy for $497. If paying $497 for a software than can potentially make you thousands... well, I dunno man... up to you... but I can assure you there's NOTHING overpriced about the Evergreen Business System software.
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            • Profile picture of the author celente
              Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

              Yes there's a section of the training videos that explains how to create the database. Please review the tutorial videos again.



              Did you see the template we introduced today? it's based EXACTLY like the one Mike had on his own webinar. Check below. By the way, we're adding a new template within 3 days, and it'll be called "The Stylish Theme"... it'll be aimed for "serious" niches like Real State, medical care, etc.
              Love that optin page. Killer, and depending on testing your headlines, you can get a killer optin rate too. We are having success in the financial niche using this style. But again it all comes to testing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Izesta
        Anonymous Affiliate;4414097


        My comment is for Anonymous Affiliate:

        After buying this product, there was an upgrade notice that said:

        "Any webinars you built you can just rebuild
        and upload as new updates are added."

        Surely this does not mean that whatever work I have done in creating a webinar would be lost and need to be completely redone because of an upgrade????

        Can't imagine support would make such a cavalier statement. I would not want to lose any webinars I've created.

        Can you add any explanation for this?

        Rather disappointed that the product seems so uncompleted, yet is for sale.
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        • Profile picture of the author ronr
          I used Strealth Webinar and really liked it. Geoff is a great guy and responded promptly

          My only gripes were the monthly payments if you are doing a lot of webinars (which I wasn't) it is well worth it.

          That and the videos and documentation was out of date so it was a little frustrating trying to make something work that was changed, removed, etc. It's probably updated now.

          I don't recommend this type of software unless you are already doing webinars or have products/services that lend themselves to webinars right away. If you do these autowebinars are fantastic way to earn more while working less.

          If you aren't doing webinars or have a product/service that will work with them, then save your money until you do or it will be just another tool that you won't use.

          Ron
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        • Originally Posted by Izesta View Post

          Any webinars you built you can just rebuild and upload as new updates are added."

          Surely this does not mean that whatever work I have done in creating a webinar would be lost and need to be completely redone because of an upgrade????

          Can't imagine support would make such a cavalier statement. I would not want to lose any webinars I've created.
          Worries not As long as you've saved your webinars with the "Save Webinar" button, they will NOT be lost because of a software update.
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          • Profile picture of the author Izesta
            Originally Posted by Izesta
            Any webinars you built you can just rebuild and upload as new updates are added."

            Surely this does not mean that whatever work I have done in creating a webinar would be lost and need to be completely redone because of an upgrade????

            Can't imagine support would make such a cavalier statement. I would not want to lose any webinars I've created.




            Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

            Worries not As long as you've saved your webinars with the "Save Webinar" button, they will NOT be lost because of a software update.

            In fact, it is necessary to re-create the entire webinar in order for the updates to work. Just got an update that said exactly that.
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  • Profile picture of the author pokerdawg
    Was seriously considering but to the point above (I think by Dexx) the idea of a 1 time payment for a hosted app, I'd be worried if it will still be there in 6-12 months. Yes, you get to download the php pages to self host, but not the back end (tracking, webinars creation, etc) so if you go down, what happens to us?
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    • Originally Posted by pokerdawg View Post

      if you go down, what happens to us?
      PokerDawg, do not forget that this is a Mike Filsaime product: trust me, we're going no-where. This product is going to keep on improving over time.

      In fact, this very morning we've just implemented a new design (see attached)

      ... and we have another 3 queued up for the following days!
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      • Profile picture of the author gananathan
        Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

        PokerDawg, do not forget that this is a Mike Filsaime product: trust me, we're going no-where. This product is going to keep on improving over time.

        In fact, this very morning we've just implemented a new design (http://www.evergreenbusinesssystem.c.../template1.jpg), and we have another 3 queued up for the following days.
        This has me worried as well. While I totally understand where you are coming from, is there a reason why the backend is not part of the self hosted package?

        I just want to see why the backend is not part of the download package. If I can host the webinar on my servers, can't I just host the backend also myself?

        Is there a way to get this hosted on my server if needed?
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        • Originally Posted by gananathan View Post

          This has me worried as well. While I totally understand where you are coming from, is there a reason why the backend is not part of the self hosted package?
          Because the software offers the possibility to host the webinars in our server if the customer so wishes, and thus it needs to connect DIRECTLY to our server. That obviously wouldn't have been possible for security reasons if we offered the backend to be downloaded.
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          • Profile picture of the author gananathan
            Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

            Because the software offers the possibility to host the webinars in our server if the customer so wishes, and thus it needs to connect DIRECTLY to our server. That obviously wouldn't have been possible for security reasons if we offered the backend to be downloaded.
            Thanks for the update. This is exactly the reason why I would want to host the backend on my own server, to be able to connect it directly to my server and to integrate with my backend.

            If I will never host my webinars on your servers, is it possible for me to get the backend also downloaded and hosted on my server so that I can directly host the webinars on my servers instead of going through the manual steps?

            BTW I am already a customer. I bought it with the understanding that everything is hosted on my own servers. I did not realize that we had to go through your backend on your server. This is an extra step that I did not anticipate.

            Pls. let me know how to get the backend so that I can install it directly on my server.

            Thanks.
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            • Originally Posted by gananathan View Post

              If I will never host my webinars on your servers, is it possible for me to get the backend also downloaded and hosted on my server so that I can directly host the webinars on my servers instead of going through the manual steps?
              No sorry, we wont be giving away the backend.
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              • Profile picture of the author Adam X
                Truly a great product. I see many opportunities with this beyond just host webinars such as a series of educational webinars in a membership site or offering webinar services to other marketers/businesses.
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      • Profile picture of the author tokaje
        Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

        PokerDawg, do not forget that this is a Mike Filsaime product: trust me, we're going no-where. This product is going to keep on improving over time.
        I almost got sucked into the-profit-platform.com (aka "quadratic formula" aka "franchise model secret", and that looked VERY interesting to me:

        Originally Posted by tokaje

        By chance, I got an invitation to "The-profit-platform", and I must say the webinar is VERY well conducted, built up, etc, in order to get you in the bying mode..... which I was in after the webinar......as well as the concept looks very professorial, and he even talks about how he had pros to do all the initial videos for the different landing pages you can choose to setup

        But when I took a deeper look into it, it seems that "The-Profit-Platform" aka "Quadratic-formula" aka "Franchise model secret" are the same...

        And I wouldn´t mind that, except when i read the threads it seems that the initial free gifts in this turnkey system is outdated, and of very poor quality/language...... And whats even bothers me more, is that the thread ends very sudden, after months of comments, but without MikeAmbrosio (Mike Filsaimes rep?)
        presence.

        So does anybody know if this has been fixed??
        And NO ONE have given any feedback that they actually make money with it or not, or if it brings traffic in, how it converts etc.......

        Mike is claiming that for every lead/visitor, you will earn 75 $, from the sales funnel setup, even though you initially give a CD-rom away for free (except S&H)

        Is there anybody who have purchased it, who is willing to submit some testimonial now ?

        Glad I checked this thread out!

        As for the software, it must be the same he now sells as the Evergreen Business System.

        check the link Mike Filasime's Evergreen Business System- Thoughts??

        There the claim they will be around forever, and let nobody down, and will be the leading edge in the webinar-game..........even though there´s no recurring fee
        Is that worth believing?


        So when i dug into it, it seems that the same promises where given there, but apparently nothing has happened..... So how about "do not forget...this is a Mike Filsaims:confused: product"... so was the other product.... which Mike charges up to $ 1997,- for!!

        Link to the other thread on The-profit-platform.com :

        http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...el-secret.html

        Does anybody have any experience with this?? - and what and whom to believe and trust? :confused:
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        • Originally Posted by tokaje View Post

          Does anybody have any experience with this?? - and what and whom to believe and trust? :confused:
          There is nothing to trust (or distrust actually) here. This is a software that does EXACTLY what claims. But like every software, it's entirely up to you to put it to action.

          Look at it this way: We're selling you a Ferrari here. But by selling you a Ferrari I cannot turn you automatically into a racing driver. This is the ultimate driving machine, but it's YOU who has to drive it at the end of the day.

          The Evergreen Business System and automated webinars in general have generated ENORMOUS piles of cash for those who are smart enough to get a powerful software and make good use of it. In the other hand, if you expect the software to turn you into a racing driver automatically... well, you're simply searching for something that's not going to happen.

          So I repeat: there's nothing to distrust here. There's no one out there catch you. We simply provide what we believe is the BEST automated webinar software in the market... now, will you make good use of it? that's entirely up to you, no up to Mike Filsaime or myself.
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          • Profile picture of the author rts2271
            This reminds me of the old school Mike F, who brought us tons of value and content and quality tools. I'm also glad to hear you guys getting away from the product launch model and treating this like a software release. I think I am going to buy this one today and see what we have here. Congrats to everyone on Mikes team. Lead by example
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            • Originally Posted by rts2271 View Post

              I think I am going to buy this one today and see what we have here. Congrats to everyone on Mikes team. Lead by example
              That was precisely the starting point of the Evergreen Business System: Mike himself averaged 5-figures DAILY by using a customized version of the old automated webinar software. This one, the new software, is even more powerful and we wanted to offer it to the public since it generated such great results for Mike, myself and others who had used the old one.
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              • Profile picture of the author magentawave
                Can we have unlimited webinars going on if we host them with you?

                Steve
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                • Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

                  Can we have unlimited webinars going on if we host them with you?

                  Steve
                  That's 100% correct Steve: Unlimited webinars for unlimited attendees... no hosting fees whatsoever
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          • Profile picture of the author tokaje
            Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

            There is nothing to trust (or distrust actually) here. This is a software that does EXACTLY what claims. But like every software, it's entirely up to you to put it to action.

            Look at it this way: We're selling you a Ferrari here. But by selling you a Ferrari I cannot turn you automatically into a racing driver. This is the ultimate driving machine, but it's YOU who has to drive it at the end of the day.

            The Evergreen Business System and automated webinars in general have generated ENORMOUS piles of cash for those who are smart enough to get a powerful software and make good use of it. In the other hand, if you expect the software to turn you into a racing driver automatically... well, you're simply searching for something that's not going to happen.

            So I repeat: there's nothing to distrust here. There's no one out there catch you. We simply provide what we believe is the BEST automated webinar software in the market... now, will you make good use of it? that's entirely up to you, no up to Mike Filsaime or myself.

            Thanks for the reply..... and for the metaphor...But I will say trust IS an issue, as for now it is just bold clames... but what about several month from now?

            But actually I was actually more hoping for some comment on The-profit-platform, because there was all the same bold promises, that everything would be solved, better products, better designs, more sites to set up etc...... but as far as I can tell nothing ever happened to that........... (hope I am wrong).


            Actually I was hoping that someone would come forward, and telling me all the issues regarding The-profit-platform.com has been resolved, as it is still on sale for almost 2.000 (And I nearly plumped in... and others will, as the webinar is very well conducted)...... and if that have not been solved, I will regard this very deceiving and unethically!....and it worries me a lot, that there is no responses in the other tread no more. I know this might have nothing to do with you, but because you seem to be somehow related to MF, could you check this out for me and others please?

            I was hoping someone would come forward, and tel they have used The-profit-platform.com (with/without success) because that also a Mike Filsaime product, because I like to buy it, but I am afraid, because of all the things said in the other thread.... which unfortunately stands alone, as Mike Filsaime´s company, hasn´t replied to all those concerns and issues........ and therefore i wonder..... why will this be different?


            Besides from this, the webinar software looks VERY nice, and I believe it banks piles of money for some people (at least for the racing drivers!) :-)
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            • Originally Posted by tokaje View Post

              But actually I was actually more hoping for some comment on The-profit-platform
              Hello. Sorry man but this thread is not for The Profit Platform. I cant comment on it since I was not part of that project. You might want to ask on a thread dedicated to that program.
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  • Profile picture of the author danielmcclure
    I can't wait to see how this performs in a real world scenario within my business. Although until today I hadn't heard of Stealth Seminar either. I will likely try out both systems in the coming months!
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  • Profile picture of the author thesuccesscoach
    Guys after a lot of thought due to the price I decided to go ahead and jump into the webinar system

    I do a lot of coaching and love doing webinars but of course it's a lot of work to try and be online when the USA are awake (being that I live in Europe). So I thought what the hey this could work for me

    Now I've had a good look around the system and set up a webinar thru my iPad and have to say wow.

    This system is really easy to use. Why?

    If I want to set up a webinar I have to (in the old days)
    Create a registration page
    Plug it into my ar
    Prepare my webinar
    Remind my subscribers of the webinar at least three times
    Stay awake and give a great webinar until two in the morning
    Then I had to remember to follow up and more
    Oh and of course the problems that come with doing a webinar ie slow screens etc

    It's a lot of work and to be honest if I only get a few people on the webinar it might not be as profitable

    Now I have a system that I set up the system and prepare my video and that's it. This means I can offer an even greater service to my customers and automate everything

    This is truly a switch on and forget

    What's it going to do for me?

    I'm going to be able to create more professional webinars serve my customers better and sell more

    The scheduling of buttons, downloads etc is amazing.

    Lol ok I'm praising this coz i see the benefits.

    If you are doing webinars at the moment you need this. Full stop.

    If you have questions let me know

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  • Profile picture of the author thesuccesscoach
    Oh btw the publishing of the webinar is sooooo simple too

    Fab system
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    • Profile picture of the author drnet
      Does anyone know how long the current offer for lifetime upgrades and One time payment is going to be up?

      It sounds perfect as I do and have done lots of webinars, but there are a lot of drawbacks to doing them live as has been explained.

      Setting everything up is so time consuming and then there can be many things that go wrong. Also integrating everything and having it all run smoothly is also an issue. This product seems to address alot of the downsides of live webinars, although I enjoy them, profitability is important obvouisly and having a system like this lends to beleve that profits would ONLY go up..

      Does anyone know if facebook and social aspects will be integrated into this? I had looked at facebook webinars FB Webinars - - and it has some fabulous aspects for virally distributing videos, it would be great if this system had something simular. I know they have what appears to be the tell a friend script, but would like to see some integration with facebook somehow...any feedback on this?

      Thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    From the outside looking in... this product is one of the first in a long while that I can honestly say has 'peeked' my interest, and could redeem my ability to explore some future offers. (I was starting to think they were all DUDS!)

    While, the 'silent misconception' method that it is presenting a 'live event feel', I sincerely think that can be easily over-looked by comparison to the recent product launches we've all seen being promoted lately.

    One way or another...I will be obtaining this amazing tool, and the sales page video actually educated me to some great marketing strategies I had yet to explore.

    I too think Mike just redeemed himself for some of the recent JV promo's to my mailbox...glad I opened this one, seems pretty tight!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
    The only way to be successful and attaining that six figure income is by creating your own product and doing webninars. I get invited to ten webinars a week and most of these guys rake in six figures a month from doing one webinar. If you have the right product at the right price and around 1000 attendees, you are going to hit the jackpot. Remember you'll get a large percentage of those people buying the software/product, then with the opt in list, you send out further offers all within that weeek/month. I can see the power in this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Is there a maximum amount of people that can attend a webinar? (either self-hosted or hosted on your servers?)
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    • Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      Is there a maximum amount of people that can attend a webinar? (either self-hosted or hosted on your servers?)
      Nop, no limit on either version.
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  • Profile picture of the author SuperAffiliate
    Okay honest review.. :0)

    >>>>It's simply a version 2 to "automated webinar generator," which is an amazing product, most guru's like Frank Kern used it and still does to market.

    1. I know - I just paid $297 for version 1.. and my webinars always seemed to "stick"..

    2. So I paid $497 for this Evergreen version 2 .. three months later.. and I will say this:

    WHY I LOVE IT:

    >>>The bonuses for this product are worth the $497 alone.. and then, if you buy through other super affiliate links - you get way more value for that price.. that's worth it to me..

    >>>>All the bugs and the kinks are being upgraded twice a day.. they sold over 1,000 of these in one day.. and the system wasn't even working.. I can't imagine how many complaints they had on the first three days alone.. Having said that - they have fixed the majority of them..

    >>>>The thank you videos that come with it are highly professional..

    >>>>THE SMS takes your game to the next level..

    >>>>The tell-a-friend script that unlocks your bonus when someone refers a friend is REALLY cool!

    >>>> My webinars don't STICK! :0)

    >>>>And they just upgraded the templates.. they started with THE 'ugliest" templates.. now just added the premium vibrant templates that are AMAZING!

    >>>> AND I did finally get the webinar to work correctly..

    There are TWO more bugs.. and once those bugs are fixed.. then this will be a SOLID product! The TROPO SMS text message is a cool very cool feature.. (hopefully, they get that to work)

    So I have three complaints:

    1. The Tropo SMS text messaging has not worked for me.
    2. The countdown timer has not worked for me when I add the "video" to the thank you page.
    3. The support is sort of impatient and somewhat unprofessional. I'm surprised when the owner/creator asks me for my login information that they can't check a customer's webinar settings from their own admin panel. AND then sends me a nasty email AFTER I answered his email three times..



    So my advice is BUY NOW! :

    Buy through a super affiliate link who is giving away a bonus that you want.

    AND start using it for everything.. it's unlimited.

    1. You can host it on their servers..
    2. You can host it on your servers with very little tech experience because they have well-done training videos that make it a simple click click click.. very easy.



    I have no idea why Mike or Hector didn't charge a monthly fee.. Think about it?

    FREE plus $40 per month OR
    $497

    Let's look at the math:

    $40 per month = the original 1,000 buyers = $40,000 per month

    AND they probably would have gotten more than 1,000 buyers.. might be 2,000.. that's $80,000 per month..

    $497 = the original 1,000 buyers = $497,000 one time.

    So what you have is a huge split with affiliates, hector and mike..

    That means money will run out.. and support will run out.. (unless there is a backend that I don't know about)




    YES I know that the owner/creator has responded many times to this particular post in warrior forum.. It shouldn't take 2 to 3 days to get a webinar going.. like he said - 20 minutes tops. Is there only one support person - the "creator" of this product?

    I dunno.. just some food for thought.. some rant.. some rave..

    Thanks!
    Kit

    P.S. This product can be used for 100 different marketing techniques.. don't just use it for a "scheduled recording".. think outside the box.. coaching clients.. automated coaching.. drip systems..affiliate products.. membership sites.. customer support.. the list goes on and on..
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    • Profile picture of the author SuperAffiliate
      By the way - I had this exact system built last year for $2500.. and I'm getting up to $5 EPC's using this system.. I'm hoping that the new system will increase my EPC's.. and give me more flexibility when I need to make a change/upgrade.

      Thanks!
      Kit
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    • Originally Posted by SuperAffiliate View Post

      So I have three complaints:

      1. The Tropo SMS text messaging has not worked for me.
      2. The countdown timer has not worked for me when I add the "video" to the thank you page.
      3. The support is sort of impatient and somewhat unprofessional. I'm surprised when the owner/creator asks me for my login information that they can't check a customer's webinar settings from their own admin panel. AND then sends me a nasty email AFTER I answered his email three times..
      Hey Kit,

      This is Hector.

      1) Tropo: I have my coder on your account right now to make sure it's properly integrated, I need some more time.

      2) The counter does play. I sent you a screenshot of it.

      3) I was just trying to help Kit, and I still do. Like I say, I have my coder on your account as I type these lines. Sorry if I sounded harsh, I just wanted the implementation to be done ASAP for you.

      Anyway, toss me an email and I will show you how to see the counter step by step.
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    • Originally Posted by SuperAffiliate View Post

      YES I know that the owner/creator has responded many times to this particular post in warrior forum.. It shouldn't take 2 to 3 days to get a webinar going.. like he said - 20 minutes tops. Is there only one support person - the "creator" of this product?
      Nop, there are more people working here and answering support. I've been answering your emails today within minutes Launch was a frenzy (like all launches) but now we're catching up.
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    • Originally Posted by SuperAffiliate View Post

      So my advice is BUY NOW! (a rarity for me to refer Mike anything):

      I have no idea why Mike or Hector didn't charge a monthly fee.. Think about it?

      FREE plus $40 per month OR $497

      Let's look at the math:

      $40 per month = the original 1,000 buyers = $40,000 per month

      AND they probably would have gotten more than 1,000 buyers.. might be 2,000.. that's $80,000 per month..
      The reason as of why we don't want to charge a monthly fee is because we wanted to set ourselves apart from the competition. They're all charging monthly fees, plus a high entrance fee. Some others even ask for a set-up fee. We wanted non of that. Mike Filsaime and myself wanted this to become the industry standard for automated webinars, you know, like Aweber is to autoresponders or Wordpress is to blogging.

      And dont worry, we have PLENTY new ideas we're implementing to expand the product and to integrate it with other platforms...
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      • Profile picture of the author magentawave
        Four things please...

        1) Specifically what is the "backend" that Evergreen does not offer? Is that everything that takes place AFTER the visitor clicks the "Order" button?

        2) Does a side by side comparison of Evergreen verses your original script exist anywhere?

        3) How much longer will you continue to support your original webinar script?

        4) Someone previously mentioned this, and this is a huge red flag for me Hector...

        The support is sort of impatient and somewhat unprofessional. I'm surprised when the owner/creator asks me for my login information that they can't check a customer's webinar settings from their own admin panel. AND then sends me a nasty email AFTER I answered his email three times...

        I have personally experienced slow, ineffective and rude customer service from Mikes "customer service" people in the past and I've read about many others that have experienced that too. I swore off ever buying anything from Mike again because of this. However, I met Mike a couple years ago and am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because he seemed like a really good guy. I suspect that Mike isn't aware of this because the same uncaring *******s doing this to his business are shielding him in order to preserve their jobs. So can you PLEASE let Mike know how important it is to all of us (I think) that he strives for excellent customer service? Perhaps suggest to Mike that he implement a prominently displayed 1 to 5 star "Rate Your Customer Service Experience" where our rating GOES DIRECTLY TO MIKE so he can personally keep tabs on this?

        Thanks

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        • Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

          1) Specifically what is the "backend" that Evergreen does not offer? Is that everything that takes place AFTER the visitor clicks the "Order" button?
          No. All that, EVERYTHING related to your webinar, belongs to you and will be exported to your server. The back-end is the configuration dashboard. Please watch the sales video at Evergreen Business System - The Best Automated Webinar Software On The Internet! and you will understand it.

          Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

          2) Does a side by side comparison of Evergreen verses your original script exist anywhere?
          Nah, we didn't create it. The Evergreen Business System is so much more powerful is was pointless to compare them both

          Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

          3) How much longer will you continue to support your original webinar script?
          I've already answered this through the thread. We will NOT stop supporting this software. We plan of selling this software for many moons to come, expanding it, introducing new designs, etc. We want to become the industry standard for automated webinars, and we will keep our coders and support staff working on this thing non stop.

          Why would we stop supporting a software that has taken us half a year to create and that can keep bringing in sales for years to come?

          Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

          4) Someone previously mentioned this, and this is a huge red flag for me Hector...

          The support is sort of impatient and somewhat unprofessional. I'm surprised when the owner/creator asks me for my login information that they can't check a customer's webinar settings from their own admin panel. AND then sends me a nasty email AFTER I answered his email three times...
          Here's the deal. I've asked Mike's support team to redirect ALL incoming tech support directly to me, so if you have a tech problem, or find a bug, etc you will be dealing directly with me. Now, am I rude or nasty? I dunno, but my mum swears I'm the prettiest kid in the block!
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          • Profile picture of the author magentawave
            You misunderstood me. I was asking if you will continue to support the original script - the one people bought from you BEFORE Evergreen existed?

            Quote:
            Originally Posted by magentawave
            3) How much longer will you continue to support your original webinar script?

            I've already answered this through the thread. We will NOT stop supporting this software. We plan of selling this software for many moons to come, expanding it, introducing new designs, etc. We want to become the industry standard for automated webinars, and we will keep our coders and support staff working on this thing non stop.

            Why would we stop supporting a software that has taken us half a year to create and that can keep bringing in sales for years to come?


            Great but can you please pass what I said on to Mike so he can decide whether to offer excellent customer service for all of his stuff or not?

            Quote:
            Originally Posted by magentawave
            4) Someone previously mentioned this, and this is a huge red flag for me Hector...

            The support is sort of impatient and somewhat unprofessional. I'm surprised when the owner/creator asks me for my login information that they can't check a customer's webinar settings from their own admin panel. AND then sends me a nasty email AFTER I answered his email three times...


            Here's the deal. I've asked Mike's support team to redirect ALL incoming tech support directly to me, so if you have a tech problem, or find a bug, etc you will be dealing directly with me. Now, am I rude or nasty? I dunno, but my mum swears I'm the prettiest kid in the block!
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  • Profile picture of the author thesuccesscoach
    Hi all

    I have to say I am putting myself 100% behind this software.

    I hear the concerns of people re the updates, it being a once off payment, however look at Hectors post - they say they will be adding more items, they want to be the best

    Let's do a reality check for a second

    Let's say the become the best in the industry, like i reckon they will, they could easily pull in 100 customers a month (let's be cautious here) that's what, 49,700 dollars per month.

    Now total cost of the system. Remember you host your own videos, you provide a link for the software, they host the backend etc. So from a server point of view there are not that much cost involved. Let's say they pay out affiliates to the tune of 29k, then costs of 10 k, that's still 10k a month they will get.

    I'm doing rough figures here, very rough, I can see them keeping this going for a long time, perhaps I will be proven wrong but i don't think so.

    Now to support

    I've not needed it, ok well once when I had to I pm'd hector and he got back to me in minutes.

    For me this service is a legend

    I advise to jump on right now
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    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
      Huh? But I thought Evergreen was hosting our videos and we host the backend?

      Steve


      Originally Posted by thesuccesscoach View Post


      Remember you host your own videos, you provide a link for the software, they host the backend etc. So from a server point of view there are not that much cost involved.
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      • Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

        Huh? But I thought Evergreen was hosting our videos and we host the backend?
        No, the "back-end" is JUST our configuration dashboard. Then, you can choose to A) host all the rest in our servers too or B) host all the rest in your server. It's entirely up to you, the software gives you both options.

        So, to wrap it up: the configuration dashboard remains in our servers, and all the rest it's up to you where to host it.
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  • Profile picture of the author thesuccesscoach
    i don't know we can go all around the block with this and never convince people

    look i've been there, i bought bfm, i still use it, yes the script had bugs, yes there were problems. Where they sorted yes, perhaps a bit slow

    so far as i said i've no need to talk to hector or support

    i do suggest you watch the video on the sales page, probably the first one i have watched in full twice, in quite some time

    the package does what it says and does it well!

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  • Profile picture of the author Folusho Orokunle
    Thanks. I'll get through them. It never helps to skim through tutorial videos. But I guess this is proof that you can get it to "work" without having to study for hours.
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    • Profile picture of the author mustard76
      Is anyone willing to point me to one of your webinar signup pages so I can see the script in action? PM me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Folusho Orokunle
        Originally Posted by mustard76 View Post

        Is anyone willing to point me to one of your webinar signup pages so I can see the script in action? PM me.
        Here's an example that I created using their servers. The description section of the templates don't seem to be working for my team yet though:
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        • Profile picture of the author Izesta
          Originally Posted by Folusho Orokunle View Post

          Here's an example that I created using their servers. The description section of the templates don't seem to be working for my team yet though:
          R.S. System

          Folusho, I haven't produced a webinar yet. Did the program come
          pre-formatted with so many different colors?

          There's a green header, with a red reservation button, and then a yellow
          register now button.
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          • Profile picture of the author Folusho Orokunle
            Originally Posted by Izesta View Post

            Folusho, I haven't produced a webinar yet. Did the program come
            pre-formatted with so many different colors?

            There's a green header, with a red reservation button, and then a yellow
            register now button.
            Yes, there are six different colors available right now as far as I can tell. And you should be able to change the easily too if you talk to a web designer.
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            • Profile picture of the author Izesta
              Originally Posted by Folusho Orokunle View Post

              Yes, there are six different colors available right now as far as I can tell. And you should be able to change the easily too if you talk to a web designer.

              Thanks. I was actually referring to the fact that the color scheme I first saw in your sample did not seem to have a matching design. And I was wondering if the product was created to look that way. I have gone a little further and I see now.

              When I bought this, I wanted it to be an all inclusive product. Ready to work out-of-the-box. Don't want to "have" to hire a designer.

              I will work with it until my deadline to request a refund. But I am disappointed that a product they claim to have spent so much time on is still not ready for prime time, yet ready to be sold.

              I'm gonna try running some things by Anonymous Affiliate.

              Wish you luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg D
    Is the Lifetime support and all the bonuses STILL available today? (The WP theme and the other bonuses), or is that gone from the launch?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
      Originally Posted by Greg D View Post

      Is the Lifetime support and all the bonuses STILL available today? (The WP theme and the other bonuses), or is that gone from the launch?
      Yes, all the above is STILL on the salespage. Look at the very top and the very bottom. Everything is listed.
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg D
        Originally Posted by Jesus Perez View Post

        Yes, all the above is STILL on the salespage. Look at the very top and the very bottom. Everything is listed.
        Thanks. I just got the email from the affiliate center as well that it will be that way until Thursday (tomorrow).

        BTW - It seems like if anyone wanted to make some extra money, they could be making custom templates for the different screens.

        I still have a question about hosting this on Amazon (I am more interested in hosting it on my own servers rather than theirs. Just a control thing. :rolleyes:



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    • Profile picture of the author ERPConsultant
      I have a question that is not directly related to the product but is generally about webinars.

      I have a software product (not IM related) and was planning to create videos showcasing the product. What is the difference between putting these videos up on YouTube and let users watch them at their convenience vs making them watch it via a webinar?

      Speaking for myself, when I am looking into a product and can watch videos of it while I am looking into it is much more useful than having to register for a webinar and wait for that event to find out more about the product. Since this is recorded, an on-demand video would fulfill the purpose as well as a webinar, even better as the user does not have to wait.

      Also, does EBS allow holding live events like gotowebinar, webex, etc. or is it strictly for pre-recorded webinars only?
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg D
        Originally Posted by ERPConsultant View Post

        I have a question that is not directly related to the product but is generally about webinars.

        I have a software product (not IM related) and was planning to create videos showcasing the product. What is the difference between putting these videos up on YouTube and let users watch them at their convenience vs making them watch it via a webinar?

        Speaking for myself, when I am looking into a product and can watch videos of it while I am looking into it is much more useful than having to register for a webinar and wait for that event to find out more about the product. Since this is recorded, an on-demand video would fulfill the purpose as well as a webinar, even better as the user does not have to wait.

        Also, does EBS allow holding live events like gotowebinar, webex, etc. or is it strictly for pre-recorded webinars only?
        I will take a stab at this.

        I cannot and will not speak for all of the features and what it can or cannot do as I am not done with the training yet.

        As far as the recorded videos go, what I believe the concept here is to build anticipation.

        There is a social aspect at play that makes people feel like they are not alone looking at a sales page with a snake oil salesman pitching junk.

        The building anticipation has been proven to create higher conversions as well.

        Period.

        So, between using the system to build a sales funnel and 'guide' your potential customers through the purchasing process, integrating it with the 'social' aspect of them not feeling alone,WHILE making them feel like they are a 'part of something' really helps with conversions.

        I hope that helps. It is what threw me over the edge to break out the old credit card!



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        • Profile picture of the author ERPConsultant
          Originally Posted by Greg D View Post


          The building anticipation has been proven to create higher conversions as well.

          Period.

          So, between using the system to build a sales funnel and 'guide' your potential customers through the purchasing process, integrating it with the 'social' aspect of them not feeling alone,WHILE making them feel like they are a 'part of something' really helps with conversions.

          I hope that helps.
          Thanks for chiming in, Greg.

          The point regarding conversions is interesting. Does anyone have some hard data on the conversion rate difference between a regular video and webinars (live or pre-recorded)?

          Would it make sense to have the webinars also available as on-demand videos on youtube? Without on-demand videos, you can miss out on a user who is researching your product and cannot wait for a scheduled event.
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          • Profile picture of the author ERPConsultant
            Looking for input. Which of the two bonuses should I choose? Rich Schefren's Training or StomperNet's uQast Pro offer.
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            • Profile picture of the author Greg D
              Originally Posted by ERPConsultant View Post

              Looking for input. Which of the two bonuses should I choose? Rich Schefren's Training or StomperNet's uQast Pro offer.
              Not familiar with those but, I saw the husband and wife team over at DAP are giving away a free version of their membership plugin/script (I think it is limited to a one site license) if you purchase through their link.



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          • Profile picture of the author Greg D
            Originally Posted by ERPConsultant View Post

            Thanks for chiming in, Greg.

            The point regarding conversions is interesting. Does anyone have some hard data on the conversion rate difference between a regular video and webinars (live or pre-recorded)?

            Would it make sense to have the webinars also available as on-demand videos on youtube? Without on-demand videos, you can miss out on a user who is researching your product and cannot wait for a scheduled event.
            Ok.

            I have some. I have in the past promoted a few webinars.

            Here is how I do it. I mention it in an email. That's it! No hard follow up, no funnel or anything like what is being taught.

            I emailed, mentioned the webinar with a link.

            Here are 3 examples that are real for me (under those circumstances):

            2 sales when 22 went to the webinar = 9.09% conversion
            5 sales when 47 went to the webinar = 10.6% conversion
            1 sale when 17 went to the webinar = 5.8% conversion

            Now those are not breaking any banks or making millions of dollars, but you have to admit that is not bad considering traffic driven to a standard website - salespage (through affiliates or yourself) converts usually at .5% - 2%.

            Those types of conversions are published everywhere on the net. I think most would agree with those.

            So for me, with NO pre=selling, no talk of the product, no coaxing through a sales funnel, sending traffic almost 'cold' to a webinar to convert like that is pretty cool.

            That was an interesting test for me.

            That was convinced me to switch my marketing model to the sales funnel and use the 'scheduled' event tactic at the end. (I am personally NOT going to be calling it a live webinar).

            My little micro-tested, baby, insignificant test made me realize that my conversions could go through the roof! (compared to current)

            NOW - if you have a product that you allow affiliates to promote, then think about them! If your product converts better than other items they are promoting does, where are they going to (more than likely) focus their efforts and be more willing to put more time, money and resources?

            Kind of a no-brainer, right? (sorry for the 1991 cliche reference)

            BTW - I am not associated with this product at all. I am a full paying customer.

            Human behavior fascinates me (careful - soft underside exposed here!)
            There is simply something to the social aspect of this that definitely helps to convert it.

            The program does offer 'replays' of the webinar (event). I understand what you are asking and there is some merit to having 'videos on demand' as well for those who might want to purchase right away. I just think tht those customers are the minority. basically they are the .5% - 2% of the people who land on our sales pages.

            Now if we can change the funnel and the model and get between 5% - 40% conversions. Just the possibility of it should be enough (and is for me) to take action and try it out.

            I am now convinced (until the next big sales trend hits and takes off) that this model might work and work quite well. Maybe for years to come. Certainly enough time to recoup the initial investment and then some!

            2 cents deposited.



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  • Profile picture of the author SuperAffiliate
    UPDATE:

    The new fix yesterday solved alot of issues that were happening.. like I said before, they are upgrading twice a day until all the kinks are worked out.

    Here's a sample of what I did with the Evergreen System:

    Residual Rush - Live Webinar This Week Reveals a Simple Way to Tap into a $40 Trillion Dollar Market

    If you visit the main page, you will see that my original from a year ago looks similar but I paid $2500 to get mine done custom. So I will now save $2500 by using a ready to go system that will create that same page .. on unlimited domains.

    - The bonuses are worth the $497 asking price, but if I were you - I'd go through a Super Affiliate's Link to get double the bonuses.. just saying.

    I have never seen programmers work this hard to get the kinks out.. they have to if they want to be the leaders..

    IF you have designed some "templates" for this, let me know because there are some elements that can be changed around to get higher conversions.. You should almost "widgetize" the areas to give people more flexibility when adding pictures, graphics, text... but PM me if you are a designer and can rock this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dexx
      Originally Posted by SuperAffiliate View Post

      Isn't saying "join us for the live webinar" a bit misleading?

      ~Dexx
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg D
        Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

        Isn't saying "join us for the live webinar" a bit misleading?

        ~Dexx
        I happen to think so myself. I am hoping that I can change the wording (on my back-end) to read something like..."Come to the Scheduled Event..."

        and it not be misleading at all. I personally thing that if you have been in IM for at least 2 minutes you will know it isn't a live event and it may upset you a bit.

        Of course if your product is decent enough, then that can be overlooked. IMO.

        I prefer to use the angle of a 'scheduled event' rather than simply lie to the user about a 'live' event. You are not starting out a relationship on the correct foot IMO.

        Not what this thread is about thought, is it?

        Going to have to pull the trigger myself.



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    • Profile picture of the author ERPConsultant
      Originally Posted by SuperAffiliate View Post

      Hi,

      I liked the way your video is done. What tool did you use to create that video?
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    • Profile picture of the author eHits
      To those that purchased this.....

      what was the OTO or backend offer?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    UPDATE: I decided to invest in the system and I am MORE than happy with the behind the scenes packages. The entire system is well setup, easy to implement, and the tutorial training videos are top-notch.

    I've never been a big fan of the "guru" products, but this is more of must-have tool than it is "re-hashed $97 ebook turned $2,000 biz-in-a-box course."

    I just put up a behind the scenes review of the system on blog for my list to checkout, I just hope they do it before the doors close.

    In terms of the one previous comment about the doors closing, I think it makes sense (given the influx of over 2,000 members in less than a week) that they temporarily close the doors--collect user feedback--and improve the system even further.

    I'm sure when they re-open it'll be on an on-going basis. But I can see how they may charge for certain things that are included now as a recurring income...it's what I'd do to.

    ~Dexx
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg D
    I'm in. Couldn't resist anymore. Will get back to the thread and let you know once I have time to play with it.

    I guess I am not sleeping tonight!



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  • Profile picture of the author SuperAffiliate
    Awesome Greg! AND YES - it is misleading.. I will change that after the "TROPO" issue is working then I'll be at 100%..
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  • Profile picture of the author kreative
    Any chance you'll consider running another wso for this in say.... A month or two..or more down the road? Looks like an awesome product and my head is swimming with ideas if how to use but first... Must get some profits rolling in.

    Thanks!
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    • Originally Posted by kreative View Post

      Any chance you'll consider running another wso for this!
      Not for the time being. This is a premium software, so at this moment we are not offering any WSO.
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    • Profile picture of the author AmandeepS
      I bought like an hour ago but haven't received any information as to how to login or access the system. Is this done manually?
      Also, does anyone know if the registration pages will work with Facebook Ads?
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      • Originally Posted by AmandeepS View Post

        I bought like an hour ago but haven't received any information as to how to login or access the system.
        Hey Amanda, did you get your password yet? if not, please contact our support at http://evergreenbusinesssystem.com/support.html so we can dig out for you.
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        • Profile picture of the author ERPConsultant
          I made the purchase about 30 minutes before close time. But the credit card got declined. I have checked with my bank and the issue is resolved now. (They have a system in place where I have to approve payments via their portal while making a purchase). How can I get in my order now? My original order number was: ORD-134774.
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          • Originally Posted by ERPConsultant View Post

            I made the purchase about 30 minutes before close time. But the credit card got declined. I have checked with my bank and the issue is resolved now. (They have a system in place where I have to approve payments via their portal while making a purchase). How can I get in my order now? My original order number was: ORD-134774.

            Please contact our billing support so we can get you rock'n'rolling ASAP: Evergreen Business System - The Best Webinar Automated Software On The Internet!
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg D
    Hey all.

    Touching base again.

    I bought yesterday.

    So far...WOW!

    The over delivering is definitely there! There are videos for DAYS! Plus bonuses!

    I have not put the system to use other than uploading a theme and playing with it while I watch the videos.

    Hector goes ABOVE and BEYOND with the videos to make sure the concept is there.

    The training that is provided is a course in itself! Being a product developer and marketer myself I can see HUGE nuggets of information that is going to help me get better conversions, and affiliates!

    I already KNOW I will make my money back and then some!!!!

    So far, I am satisfied. I will come back in a few more days.



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    • Originally Posted by Greg D View Post

      I bought yesterday.

      So far...WOW!

      The over delivering is definitely there! There are videos for DAYS! Plus bonuses!

      Hector goes ABOVE and BEYOND with the videos to make sure the concept is there.

      The training that is provided is a course in itself! Being a product developer and marketer myself I can see HUGE nuggets of information that is going to help me get better conversions, and affiliates!

      I already KNOW I will make my money back and then some!!!!

      So far, I am satisfied. I will come back in a few more days.
      In fact Greg, the Sales Funnel Revolution training program was in itself a $497 program, but I decided to throw it in as an "surprise" bonus. I'm happy you like it. Those techniques have made me A LOT of money, so make sure to apply them into your own business.
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    • Originally Posted by hockeybull22 View Post

      Here's what I mean... just got this response back:

      "Hello

      Please submit this particular request to the link below.
      Issues or questions like this will go (through this link) directly to the programmer
      who knows the system inside out and will be able to tell you exactly what is or is not possible
      or what may be causing your particular issue.

      Contact | Cheap Internet Marketing Tools


      Thanks"
      Well, please mind that our guys at support desk are not coders, so you require tech assistance it's kind of normal that they forward you to our programmer. But rest assure that one way or another you'll get help
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Lassiter
    So yeah, I took the leap and pulled the trigger. I got in before Midnight last night and opted for the $1 package. I absolutely like what I see so far and I'm going through the video's and will be implementing my first webinar by Monday.
    And I know I'm stating the obvious to many of you but from my own experience, any software/course/wso is absolutely useless until you use it and take action.
    I see lots of uses for this as a real estate investor and of course within my IM business.
    I'll post things here about my experience the system as I go on.
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  • Profile picture of the author thesuccesscoach
    My Testing so far

    35% signup to squeeze page
    7.1% attended webinar
    10% plus who saw free offer during webinar took it up

    not bad in my books
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Lassiter
      Originally Posted by thesuccesscoach View Post

      My Testing so far

      35% signup to squeeze page
      7.1% attended webinar
      10% plus who saw free offer during webinar took it up

      not bad in my books
      Not bad at all. Thanks for sharing results. I'll do the same once I get going.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg D
      Originally Posted by thesuccesscoach View Post

      My Testing so far

      35% signup to squeeze page
      7.1% attended webinar
      10% plus who saw free offer during webinar took it up

      not bad in my books
      No, those numbers are not bad.

      If you don't mind, did you watch all of Hector's videos?

      What funnel did you set-up?

      I mean is your landing page a squeeze page, right?
      Then do you go straight to the webinar registration page immediately or in the next day email?

      I am curious if you follow the suggestion of leading with 5 emails over 5 days, announce a product launch, introduce the webinar, THEN bring them to the sales page.

      I am looking to plan my strategy for 3 products currently, so I am hoping to dig a bit deeper from your stats.

      Thank you.



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      • Profile picture of the author thesuccesscoach
        Hey Greg

        To be honest I did a very quick set up

        Set up a webinar and link to the reg page on a page on my website then blasted out to my list and got those numbers

        My challenge is going thru all the processes, lol i'm a short cut kinda guy so bet when i do go thru the full process numbers will be way better

        r

        Originally Posted by Greg D View Post

        No, those numbers are not bad.

        If you don't mind, did you watch all of Hector's videos?

        What funnel did you set-up?

        I mean is your landing page a squeeze page, right?
        Then do you go straight to the webinar registration page immediately or in the next day email?

        I am curious if you follow the suggestion of leading with 5 emails over 5 days, announce a product launch, introduce the webinar, THEN bring them to the sales page.

        I am looking to plan my strategy for 3 products currently, so I am hoping to dig a bit deeper from your stats.

        Thank you.



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        • Profile picture of the author Greg D
          Originally Posted by thesuccesscoach View Post

          Hey Greg

          To be honest I did a very quick set up

          Set up a webinar and link to the reg page on a page on my website then blasted out to my list and got those numbers

          My challenge is going thru all the processes, lol i'm a short cut kinda guy so bet when i do go thru the full process numbers will be way better

          r
          r,

          I appreciate the answer. That makes sense and was what I was kind of hoping. :p

          I agree, if the 'full' funnel was set up it might even be better conversions. That is what I am banking on.

          The training is incredible, and the idea of a funnel is not new to me, but the way Hector explains it, I have DEFINITELY learned a LOT. The training alone is worth it and with the scripts and all the bonuses, this is probably the best and will be the most impactful purchase I have made all year!

          Thanks again for sharing, I appreciate it!



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          • Originally Posted by Greg D View Post

            The training is incredible, and the idea of a funnel is not new to me, but the way Hector explains it, I have DEFINITELY learned a LOT. The training alone is worth it and with the scripts and all the bonuses, this is probably the best and will be the most impactful purchase I have made all year!
            Thanks Greg for the kind words. I'm glad you're enjoying not only the software but also the training program.
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  • Profile picture of the author Netafile
    @ERPConsultants

    Go with Rich Schefren's bonus. uQast not really ready for prime time yet, IMHO.

    (and Yes, I have purchased uQast, though have not had the time to set up my stores)
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Lassiter
    Making my way through Hector's video's and finding them well put together.
    The funnel process is not new to me, however, I'm going to watch each video, each instruction to hopefully help me achieve maximum results from my webinars. I have 1 of my own products and 2 other affiliate products I'll be implementing this on.
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  • Profile picture of the author eHits
    Originally Posted by SuperAffiliate View Post

    Kit, was curious to see your EBS implementation so I signed up but there was a problem with the page. I'm PMing you the details.
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    • Originally Posted by eHits View Post

      Kit, was curious to see your EBS implementation so I signed up at 7:05 pm pst, and then left the webinar countdown page (webinar-live.php) in my Firefox browser until the scheduled 8pm webinar. Plus I copied the countdown page URL into my Safari browser. (because I wanted to see if there were any webpage layout quirks in Safari)

      Issue #1

      At exactly 8 pm both the Firefox & Safari browser screens refreshed, but instead of playing the webinar video, it displayed a blank page with the message "This Webinar Event Has Finished". (perhaps this occurred because I had the countdown page open in two browsers at once, but that does not seem likely)

      Issue #2

      I did not receive the text message that I was supposed to receive 15 minutes before the webinar start time. fyi my cellular provider is AT&T (on iPhone) and I've never experienced any issues of delayed or lost text messages. (perhaps the texting service requires a new entry to be received at least one hour ahead of time?)

      So I might suggest you attempt to replicate these issues by signing up for your own webinar less than an hour before the scheduled start time.
      Please send us a support ticket at Evergreen Business System - The Best Webinar Automated Software On The Internet! and we will fix it for you . I don't want to polute the thread with tech support stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dexx
    Hey Hector (and anyone else who may know)

    Are there any case studies or stories of Automated Webinars being used with Clickbank products?

    I.e. a product in the clickbank marketplace with a webinar registration page for sign-up?

    Not sure if this would be per CB terms of service...but I'm curious if any affiliate marketers have promoted such a product if so!

    ~Dexx
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    • Originally Posted by Dexx View Post

      Hey Hector (and anyone else who may know)

      Are there any case studies or stories of Automated Webinars being used with Clickbank products?

      I.e. a product in the clickbank marketplace with a webinar registration page for sign-up?

      Not sure if this would be per CB terms of service...but I'm curious if any affiliate marketers have promoted such a product if so!

      ~Dexx
      Hey Dexx, I dont see why it'd be any different whether the webinar promotes a clickbank product, or any other product. I mean, it doesnt matter whether you sell your product through clickbank, paypal, or any other platform.
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  • Profile picture of the author ttippmann
    Purchased last night. Excited to get started, but didn't get any emails with login information. I am sure it is coming, but used to something coming immediately when signing up.

    Anyone else seeing this or just me?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kevin Hill
      About ready to jump on this. One of the bonuses is "free access" to the Webinar Summit in Salt Lake City on the 23rd - 24th.

      Does that mean we get tickets to the event and can go in person? Or is it online access to the event via webcam...streaming, etc.

      The former would make it a no-brainer for me since I'm relatively close...but the copy is a little ambiguous as "free access" can mean anything.

      Anybody know? I also left a ticket and left a message w/ support...but decided to ask here due to the time sensitivity...as the offer ends this evening.

      Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author FA
      Originally Posted by ttippmann View Post

      Purchased last night. Excited to get started, but didn't get any emails with login information. I am sure it is coming, but used to something coming immediately when signing up.

      Anyone else seeing this or just me?
      I purchased it and got redirect to a 'page not found' page. I've not received any login details whatsoever. I was really excited but this has killed the mood
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      • Profile picture of the author ttippmann
        Originally Posted by FA View Post

        I purchased it and got redirect to a 'page not found' page. I've not received any login details whatsoever. I was really excited but this has killed the mood
        Put in a support ticket and finally got my login info. Did take about 18 hours though.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Hill
          Ok just went ahead and ordered. Was able to login fine so they must have fixed the above issues.

          My question above was answered...the bonus is 1 ticket to the actual event. I'll be there.

          Looking forward to using the software...will reply with a review when I do.

          Kevin
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          • This is what i did to rebuild my webinars after the latest update.

            1. Navigated to my webinar page set up
            2. Copied the url from that page
            3. Opened a new tab in my browser
            4. Copied and pasted all my details from the original webinar into the new one
            5. Saved each section as i went along.

            Result... Fastest way to rebuild your webinars.

            Hope that helps

            Warmest regards,

            Stewart
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          • Originally Posted by Kevin Hill View Post

            Ok just went ahead and ordered. Was able to login fine so they must have fixed the above issues.

            My question above was answered...the bonus is 1 ticket to the actual event. I'll be there.

            Looking forward to using the software...will reply with a review when I do.

            Kevin
            Excellent stuff Kevin, welcome onboard! Let me know if you have any question
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      • Originally Posted by FA View Post

        I purchased it and got redirect to a 'page not found' page. I've not received any login details whatsoever. I was really excited but this has killed the mood
        Hey there. Have you gotten your login info yet? if not, drop us an email and I will take care of you personally ASAP!
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