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| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Dallas
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Has anyone bought/tried James' Income Times Ten? New launch apparently.
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK / Near Glasgow
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I can also say as a previous customer of Jamie that he over delivers on all his products. And he is always very helpful All the best George |
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If someone decides to buy it,I'm looking for real review.(I might buy it myself,seems to be a good piece of software)I'm not sure.
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| Expert Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Heaven
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Jamie Lewis is the real deal- Active Warrior and cares about his students success. I highly recommend you check out Income Times Ten. Cheers!
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I am sure that he is a very nice chap and all that, but did anyone actually buy it? Does anyone think that it's a good product? What is it supposed to do? Surely this thread isn't supposed to be about feelings is it? Thanks Robert |
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| yin and yang War Room Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA
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This is not helping people. People want to know a little bit about what this program does and entails, not oh, Jaime is a nice guy, etc. So..the main module is 47.00. What is the cost of each of the upsells? What is the number of upsells? Right now, want something that works and don't have the money or the desire to spend on more and modules. So, how many OTO's are there and additions that we have to purchase to make it work? In addition, if someone misses the "live" webinars, are they recorded? What is the best way to reach Jamie if we need help, the WF, open a ticket that takes days to be contacted, skype. Those of us, who are interested in the program need to know! Thank you. |
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I just bought this product and this is a great product and Jamie is giving out alot on info. A must for anyone that wants to make money online.
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If you have bought it, and you genuinely feel that way, then please elaborate... thx Robert | |
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| Earning Money Online War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chicago
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I have not bought this product yet but I know it will be top notch if it is of the same quality as some of his previous products. Reviews please from someone that bought the course? I would also like to know what the course entails? |
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Plus you just pick a niche and in a couple of steps you are given places to post for your niche. | |
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| yin and yang War Room Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA
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Sadly many people on the warrior forum do not answer the question posed to them like what it entails. They are saying it is a great program 5 minutes after it came out because it is likely in many cases that they are affiliates so they are trying to build interest in the program. I agree with those who want to know more about. Don't say it is great because of his rep. Everyone produces clunkers. TEll us about the OTOS or the upsells and the cost. Tell us something about the program. If you were truly interested in the program you would talk about it. OTherwise it is evident you are just trying to build your own post counts for when you release your own WSO! You build no value to those who have inquired about the program. I have given reviews to programs when they have needed it whether good or bad, or simply asked questions that I hope have helped people. I would not do a response like "I like it" 5 minutes after buying it because what if I got further into the program and it sucked. (I learned my lesson when I gave a recommendation for a review copy that I got. I was in a hurry and said the first half was great. I later went back and admitted that I hadn't finished it and when I got to the end realized that it went downhill in the second half. Yes, I admitted that too so now I wait until I have finished everything). I hope that I help people and would never again review a program just because I got it cheap or promised the OP a review and I want to get on his good side for the next release. I WANT TO HELP OTHERS EVEN IF ONLY IN A SMALL WAY BY GIVING AN HONEST REVIEW People, please be honest. When someone asks you what else you have to buy give us an answer or don't reply. Objective is what we need here, not subjective. |
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Read the WHOLE sales page with a fine toothed comb and I strongly recommend you read the testimonials, they're live!! In case you didn't notice, I'm definitely not sugar coating this, go ahead, read the testimonials. Thank this post if you're as sickened as I am right now after reading them and the fact that the sales pages states you can get it for $35.95 when the CB buy page is clearly $47. If they been deleted, I'll PM you ALL the testimonials. An Enraged and disgusted Warrior |
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Thanks Jeff I look forward to you kick azz review |
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I must say that I love the sales copy. It's brilliant! I'm very tempted to buy this. Think that I'll have a nice cold beer first and think about it. If I like it I'll promote it and if I don't then it's money back time. I'm sure it's a keeper. I've a good feeling about it. But the sales copy really is hot If you are reading this Jamie, well done, and if you are still split testing I'd love to see the winning copy.
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Would appreciate reviews from those who bought it. Products from Jamie are solid though. thanks |
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: , , USA.
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Well I just bought it last night and I'm trying to wrap my head around it. There is an upsell for $197 which gets you one on one coaching and two digital products you can sell as a vendor-I think this is their "digi-biz pro" but I haven't got all the details yet. Inside the members area there is an "income engine" where you can "build a campaign". You pick a proven niche with buyers and then the database selects a CB product and you select how you want to promote it-with forums, blogs, youtube videos or all of the above. It then returns you a list of different blogs and forums etc. targeted to your niche. I missed the first webinar but I presume you are supposed to start a profile on these forums and develop a relationship with other forum members by being helpful and then start a sales funnel. The blogs and youtube videos? I dont know-commenting? There is a huge collection of videos in the members area but there is no labeling or organization so it is difficult to pick out the video you want. I was looking for a video on their "income engine" but how do you find it? I don't understand what the "website builder" is supposed to do. I thought it was a blog installer that gave us a starter blog to promote our selected CB product but it looks like it is a website builder for the digi-biz pro that allows you to set up a digital product. Can anyone clarify with their experiences with this product? I will have to investigate more to see if this is a good match for my business now. |
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| Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Good Ole USofA
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Maybe I'm just getting cynical in my old age, but I have to ask myself ... ... "If the seller has made $1.23 zillion dollars in his 7-year IM career - as much as $17,516 in a single day! - and it looks from the pictures of his nice big house, that he's run out of room to park anymore Silver Clouds, why then does he need my lousy $47 - or $244 if/when I buy his $197 OTO?! ![]() And why does he spend so much time putting down other "gurus" for things like misleading or deceptive pitches, and then show 'proof of income' snapshots - which even I know can be faked - when he could have shown us "live" video of him going online and opening his Click Bank and other accounts in "real-time"? And, no, I'm not accusing him of fakery; I'm just saying ... if he can show us "live" video proof of income, why does he choose to show static snapshots that can be easily faked? And, oh yeah, I agree with all the others asking for real, honest Warriors who have actually used and made money with it - or not. Jamie might be the nicest guy in the world and the most successful IM guru in Cyberspace - and he might well have more money than God - but it's hard to judge his offer when he seems to use a very smooth, if not slick, sales copy to decry other gurus for being smooth & slick .. and therefore buy from him & not them. Which leads me full circle .. it would be nice to read some real, honest reviews from some Warriors. Richard |
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| yin and yang War Room Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA
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all threads related to this have been removed. I was asked to remove offending comments in another post because they might lock the thread. I guess one person can criticize but others can't. so rather than continue with off topics of the thread, have removed them. |
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Yes, very impressive sales video, and that from me, a tv-dude. HOWEVER, the reason I attribute to not being able to sell this product to my list is like all of the other products preceding this one.. it suffers from one major flaw (the sales copy that is)... It's a blind offer. You don't see what you are getting ahead of time, and I'm afraid my list has "grown up", and like warriors, has become too sophisticated for that. With that in mind, nice to see some of the reviews starting to pop up here. In answer to the other question posed about why would he released a $47 product if he's making all that money.. that's a little naive. Chronic Commissions had a similar price tag, and through affiliate sales and the upsells, took in 2 million in just 2 weeks in sales. (That's just one of many examples of products with smaller price tags that have done 1-2million in the past few weeks) |
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@Harlank44 - The other side of my (our) pleas for "real, honest reviews" is .. how would I (we) know if they were really & truly "real & honest"? ![]() Which is a good segue into the comment posted by .. @Todd11 - "Naive"?! Guilty as charged. And I guess that's what it comes down to: unless & until I buy a lot of tutorial-like WSOs and work the bejesus out of them, I'll never be able to tell what's (likely) to be 'real, honest & true' - and even then there's always someone who is a little smarter or slicker.The problem I have is that I've lost everything, and I'm trying to start over again with IM, a little bit late in life ... and I don't have a lot of time, energy and money to be trying out a lot of stuff (for God-only-knows how long) in order to find something that - hopefully - does work. Thanks for the comments. Richard |
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| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Dallas
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I started this thread wondering about the offer. Then after several reports that Jamie is OK I bought the product. Also bought the upsell previously described, but first clicked out then got it for $167. I didn't find the sales video any more or less obnoxious-yet-compelling than any of the many others out there. With the same potential for photoshop fraud. Then, I attended last night's webinar, and was pleasantly surprised. I should say I'm a newbie but have been lurking around (and wasting money on some garbage) for about a year. Haven't made a dime. However, as others have pointed out in other reviews, I need to settle down and focus on one thing at a time. I liked Jamie's teaching style and will continue with webinar training, which is probably worth way more than the software for finding niches that was previously described. He is scheduling several webinars & tutorials this week. Because I like what I'm hearing (seems to be low on BS) I will focus on this and see if it works. So far I have not tried the upsell website section. |
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I will be purchasing and reviewing this system in the next 24 hours. After reviewing Micheal Turner's "Point Click Profits" I think I can use something that actually has some promise. I look forward to giving this program a full review. Providing we don't have anymore earthquakes.
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Wow thank you everyone! Thanks Athena, Maverick, Silverblade and for purchasing and coming to my webinar last night! Tonight at 9:00 again. Thanks Penbry for your compliments on my copy! Thanks Mediaman for being a previous customer of mine. GetYourExBack and Beatmaking tutorials coming soon (These might not be your niches, but they are mine) and it should show you everything you need to know in terms of application. I just want everyone to understand that its never really about "selling" at first. Its about offering yourself non-commercially in a niche you understand more than others and building a network. Make sure to refresh the screen (In the members area, check back regularly since we are very active uploading and improving. You know thats the way I roll. |
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Well, based on the glowing references to Jaimie's character, I bought the basic course, not the upsells. I did the survey and have a "campaign" but it doesn't tell me what to do with it. It's just a list of blogs, forums, etc. I bought this course because the "income engine" was supposed to be fully automated. If that automation only goes so far as to help me select a campaign, that not enough. There are hours and hours and hours of videos. Way more than I have the time for. I'll still have a day job and it would take me a month of full time listening to get through all the videos. I wouldn't even mind that if there were some sort of "this is what you do next" guide that I could put in place and then listen to the videos; something to work on as I learn. BTW the videos are very disorganized; no labels as to what they're about or which ones would be best to watch first. So far, I'm feeling very frustrated with this. I'll persevere a while yet but if this is going to turn out to be a waste of time, I don't have much time to waste. |
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I'm a little distracted by the "you just pick a niche" comment. The whole clue to a successful campaign is a successful niche. I'm not buying it!
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I bought it. I really like Jamie Lewis. I think he has the true spirit of what success is really about. GIVING BACK and helping others. The software definitely has value, especially for newbies. His support and webinars and true sense of giving is worth tons more than the cost of the software. Huge thumbs up, primarily to Jamie. He is the model all successful marketers should emulate.
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Thanks for the review Big John. I'll consider getting it soon.
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OK you want to know what it does>>> the software identifies your interests, gives you some clickbank products that fit your passions, interests and knowledge base and resources to promote your links in front of traffic sources. As mentioned above great for newbies and again with what Jamie provides is way above and beyond the price of his offerings.
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Do you know how to use AmazonS3? If so I would start using that instead of Youtube! Tim Quote:
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You're welcome Money10
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: The internet! :)
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So, I want to address two things from reading all your negative comments you posted here. 1. Upsells are NORMAL. As a marketer, we offer a low affordable front end product that delivers EXACTLY what the sales page describes. On the UPSELLS- we are offering UPGRADES. No one says YOU MUST BUY to use the front end product. Upsells are normal and a EVERYDAY part of life. When you go Amazon, they try to upsell you as well. When you buy a TV, don't they recommend a DVD Blu Ray player? And what about the cables? What about the fancy remote? Think about it bro- it's ALWAYS been a part of life in all aspects of marketing. Buy a car, you get "upsold" for warranties, gap insurance, tire insurance..etc. Marketing is marketing. 2. Fake Screen shots... I always LAUGH. Is it because the numbers are so UNBELIEVABLE or is it the fact you refuse to believe? Clickbank actually CHECKS and asks for YOUR account info so they can verify your accounts. $500k in your CB account is not CRAZY or fake. It's real. It happens. Some of us REALLY do make great money as both an affiliate and vendor on Clickbank. I bet you still think I'm full of sh*t.. How about an open invite to YOU. PM me. I'll just on a skype chat with you, login and show you. Then you can yell to the world that I showed you.. but you still think I photoshopped it i bet.. Anyways.. Good luck, with an attitude like you have, you'll NEVER succeed in the Internet Marketing world. Stay positive, think positive and you'll see a change in life ![]() Good luck. | |
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| yin and yang War Room Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA
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Ok guys, Harlank, I would edit your insults (The "Whiner" comment) before they lock the thread and then no one will be able to discuss it. That would actually be good for me because there is so much misinformation in this thread sometimes I wonder if my product is the topic. My best advice is to let people review at their own speed, its a big launch so plenty of buyers will stop in. All in good time. To the mods here, Ill keep my eye on the thread and help people out. No need to get out of hand here. Regarding these negative trollish comments by people who are inexperienced and unfamiliar with my brands, its not a good look to insult my customers when they take their time to talk about it. If you are confused as to why there are positive reviews, I work my ass off. Have a nice day. |
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| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Wisconsin
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Didn't see it anywhere in the thread. Will it work on a Mac? Thanks. |
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK / Near Glasgow
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Jamie is there a chance that the webinar will be posted as im in the uk and it was 2am here when it was on. School and kids bad mix lol ALL THE BEST George |
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I agree in a nice way and find it very frustrating not being able to find out just what I would be doing to use a product or what would be required to spend using it. I've got a few that are a waste of time because I have it in another product. I don't see the point in surrounding a sales page on finding out a method used for the marketing. |
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I missed the boat on Income Entourage due to server issues... sold out before I attempted to purchase again. I, for one, believe Jamie Lewis is an honest marketer and that his products deliver as promised. Will purchase this new product and provide an honest review.
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My full review of the I.T.T system. As promised to the readers of this topic I was able to get my hands on the system. I will keep the review as concise as possible while helping you make a firm decision in whether to purchase or not. Sales Page & First Impressions: Jamie Lewis the creator of Income Times Ten comes off as a very upfront gentleman. Like all other marketers on the net he is sick and tired of liars, paid actors, and scams that no doubt plague the internet. He offers friendly advice on how to properly spot a potential internet scam although the methods are a bit outdated it is a gesture we all can appreciate. The system is described by Jamie as a system that:
Income Times Ten System: $47.00 Coaching Program: $197 (optional purchase) The System & Back Office: Once logged in you will be presented with a welcome video from Jamie, and a menu that directs you to The Income Engine, Coaching, Site Builder, Etc. Simple to navigate and user friendly for the technologically impaired, which is a plus. When using the engine it will ask you a series of questions based off of your own personal experience. This ultimately leads the engine in the proper direction of recommending you certain affiliate products to promote along with a list of resources of where to promote for example a list of forums dedicated to a specific niche. This is the full extent of the engines power. In short this system finds affiliate products based on your answers, after accumulating the product possibilities it gives you a list of resources to market your affiliate link to. (Be warned that these resources may have terms and conditions that DO NOT allow you to post affiliate links!) The Pros :
The Verdict : Income Times Ten is fun and easy. It takes the sometimes daunting task of affiliate research and turns it into a 120 second process. Practically a godsend for the complete newbie. The claims and promises are spot on, and not once did I feel like I was being cheated out of my $47.00 and for that I would like to sincerely thank and congratulate Mr.Lewis on that accomplishment. As we all know it's extremely difficult to find true honesty even in the company of friends and family. Recommendations: To the absolute beginner this program is where you should start. It's simple, effective, easy, and surprisingly fun. On average it takes a complete newbie an average of 14 days to accurately research and market an affiliate product. Incomes Times Ten Takes care of all that in about 2 minutes. To the veteran and expert marketers. Unfortunately Income Times Ten will do nothing more for you than cut your research time down by about 1 minute. The information here will leave you with memories of dejavu, and maybe even a question of "Why in the world wasn't this made years ago!?" I hope this review sheds a bit of light on your questions and decisions on whether or not to purchase the system |
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More feedback: 3rd webinar tonight; Jamie continues to deliver. Works almost one-on-one showing us how to do campaigns and succeed on forums. He also answers specific questions. He actually critiqued my previous site and gave me good direction (specifically it's way too ambitious for a newbie; go back and work on it later). Don't think I could ask for more. Feedback from the other online participants is very favorable also. I also bought the upsell; while I haven't had time to watch all of the extra videos, I did follow the video instructions to launch a website, a campaign, and install google analytics. Even the hosting is included. Great stuff for newbies like me. Bottom line I'm a happy newbie camper. And no I'm not an affiliate--haven't graduated to that level yet! |
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Hey Warriors, I just wanted to add my 2 cents about Jamie and my Experience with his Products. I personally purchased wealth in a Box and Absolutely Loved it! Jamie over delivered with that product and I am sure he will with this one... I have see The proof Thanks to @eljeffe77 Jeff's AWESOME Video Review and the comments that have been given on this thread. In no way have I ever been compensated to give a testimonial nor would I ever accept. I also EXTREMELY Dislike (i.e ****) Scammers and do not promote very many products as an affiliate as a lot of them really are Junk and over hyped rehashed C*ap. Sorry for the negative But Much more Positives... Just wanted to Say Thanks Jamie for Being Real ![]() Have a AWESOME Day on Purpose! With Purpose! Darren Utke Aka "The Real Deal" Mentor |
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Thanks Jacob. At last someone has the guts to honestly review a product on WF and answer questions asked by other Warriors wether anyone has made money with this product and what exactly does it do. we come to these forums to get real answers about these so called products but there are never any real reviews all we get is Joe Blogs is a great guy,This product is great,I should have bought this long ago,etc,etc,etc. Nobody ever has the guts to say I bought this product and started using it,I checked my account and found I had made x dollars in 2 days since I have been using this product. These are the sort of reviews we want |
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Yes Jake, that is a BAD ASS review (Even with the cons haha) THANK YOU! Words can't say enough. Thanks bro. Hey, ONE thing (I don't mean to criticize) The training part is a BIG part of it. Thats why I do webinars and record them. It's like training/coaching a football team.. Come onto one of the webinars, I have to curtail the advanced tendencies LOL Next one is tomorrow at 11:00 PM Thanks again man. |
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| Internet Marketing Edge War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Torrance,California
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Hey Jamie, The free webinars that your doing right now, are they recorded and included in the members area of the $47 product or only if we purchase the $197 upsell? Thanks for clarification |
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I watched the video and tried to figure out what this was and was presented with an offer to get the product for free upon leaving the site. I have filled in the form and submitted it 3 times now to see how this works but have not recieved anything not even an email. Good customer relations Jamie I wont be buying your product |
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Wow, Jacob, and Jeff, Thanks! Between your two reviews, I actually feel that I know what this product is, and where it will be useful. I'm a lurker on WF these days, and I've broken my silence to publicly thank you...you have done us a service. Philip |
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Well jamie is really doing great with his products. I'm an affiliate of income times ten and currently in top 20's of the jv contest. After confirming this product is good, I promoted it to my email list yesterday; many purchased but one denied to buy it and when I asked him why; he replied with a message which I am sending to jamie right now as he made some bad attacks which I don't think should be mentioned here... basically he LOVED that product which he purchased in past (he didn't tell me which one) and said it was good but was unhappy that there was no support for him. One line from this message. Quote:
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