lhkorn99

anyone buy ty cohen's kindle cash flow? wondering about the product. big price tag.

dmurphy

I purchased it, and it is a great product. Lots of good information, and not terribly hard to do as long as you can take action.

sanjaysharma

did you have any experience of success with this program.

ty cohen says that he can make an ebook within hour using PLR but PLR are banned on Kindle. what is your opinion about this.

sanjay sharma

dmurphy

Well, I would say you can if you're a good, quick writer. It all depends how much you want to focus on quality. I will say, quality always beats quantity. I choose to focus on quality only, so that takes me much longer.

1GreatCPA

I have not purchased it yet.

redbaron13

I listened to Ty's webinar, and then looked at his site with the BIG price tag. Why would someone pay that much money when there is a WSO by Caleb Spilchen for $17 that to me looks like it has just about the same information? The WSO I just looked at even has a lot of videos to go with it. I have not bought it, but I am asking myself if I would rather pay $17 or $1K.... Maybe someone who has bought Ty's product can help the rest of us justify the insane price tag.

WealthWinners

I didn't buy the program, but I was able to watch some of the original video that he did when he was showing his stats. He is not doing that on the current webinars. I cannot say if the course is worth it or not, but one thing I can tell you was the boy has VOLUME. I saw his list was over 800 titles. If you have 800 titles, and you sell them at around $8 a piece, the royalties on that is over $35k/mo, and that is if you only sell 1 title per month.

So if you can hire a ghostwriter to put out some good quality content, it will pay off. He may have some tips and tricks that he shares, but I won't fork out a grand for it. Besides, if he Really wants to help people, he is leaving out the masses of people that would pay a few hundred.

colinph970

I would stay well away from PLR and any thoughts about trying to rewrite it and sell it on the Kindle. The best way forward is to create quality content and price it to offer real value to the reader.

macmani

I bought this course and its a great course. Ty explains everything in detail about publishing on kindle and if you follow you are sure to make money. I am going through it now. There is a ton of information on the CDs.

dmurphy

It will definitely take you some time to go through, but well worth it!

celestrist

101% agree with you.
All of my PLR books sold on the Kindle were deleted overnight.

macmani

We should not upload PLR to kindle. The kindle cash flow teaches how to avoid the kindle slap. There are other ways to publish than using PLR.

dmurphy

I noticed that there were some books I was looking at as far as ideas (people already published them), and they looked to be PLR material. Later, when going back to look at them again, they were gone. It was for more than one. I think Amazon is really cracking down on this.

macmani

So Dmurphy

I think you bough the course before me. Have you gone through all the videos? What is taught in that. I just saw the webinar, but have to go through the whole course as I got it just 2-3 days back. Does he tell how to produce quality unique material and other things. Are you making any money or published any books after learning the course.

dmurphy

I've gone though everything. He teaches you everything you need to do and everything you need to know. Go through everything. Some things have changed just slightly since I got them (Amazon has been making some changes to combat junk, a good thing) but it's nothing major. And yes, I have published books, and am making a few bucks. Not 15k a month, but on the way.

It takes time to create good content!

macmani

thanks Dmurphy:

So you are rewriting PLR or using other methods like getting fresh books written or yourself writing, just asking. I think rewriting PLR is also risky. ANyways, I will look at the CDs tomorrow.

dmurphy

All fresh!

Amber Jalink

Can someone pm me the link to review? I can't seem to find it.

Amber Jalink

Does anyone know if they have a support desk?

I've submitted a pre-sales question twice to their "support" email, but have had no responses, figured perhaps a direct support desk would be better.

Amber

macmani

Hello Dimeco:

Try this email: Support@IBeMarketing.com

I bought the kindle cash flow a month back. gone though the course. It ships on 9 VCDs. Its a great course to learn to publish on kindle. I am about to publish 3 titles shortly. Have to see how it goes. You will learn a ton of information on how to publish, how to research titles, how to price, what sells best, etc. Amazing course really. One advice, write ebook yourself or get it written, dont use PLR. Amazon does not like it. If you need further info, PM me or post a reply.

macmani

Kindle is an excellent platform to publish and many are making a killing on it. Most books on how to subject sells well. Short 20-25 page reports can be sold well also. That's what I am trying to do now. Since you already have many books published, transition to kindle should be quite easy. However, taking this course, which is a little costly, about 1000 bucks, will help though in your kindle career. You can get lot of tips here. you can sell from 20 pages to even 100.

Amber Jalink

Thanks. Do you know how long the course is?

(# of dvds, # of hours?)

macmani

the course comes with 7 VCDs and one audio CD and a CD with sample agreements. The total course audio is between 4 to 5 hours.

JRCarson

$1,000 bucks? Huh. Enough said.

sanjaysharma

not only this product has a high price but also there is no refunds for you purchase.

Amber Jalink

Are you sure about that?

From what I read, there was a 60 money back guarantee.

sanjaysharma

can you give me link because i doesnot see the 60 days money back gurantee.

thanks

sanjay sharma

Amber Jalink

It's in the video, near the end when he's explaining the package. (Around the 90 min mark)

(Screenshot attached - I added the yellow highlighting and arrow so you can see where he shows it).

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dmurphy

Nothing wrong with the price, in my opinion. I've seen higher prices for other products. People plunk down 3,000 bucks for one college course that they barely use and never think twice.

I always ask myself, would I give someone 1k if they could hand me knowledge that will make me significantly more than that? If true, then it becomes an investment that I can focus on getting a return on, not just "$1000 bucks."

pearsonbrown

Could we get back to HONEST REVIEWS please ;-)

sanjaysharma

thanks it is not written on the sales copy.

sanjay sharma

trooper19403

Well I just received the course and I will be looking at it over the next few days to determine if there is any NEW real value here or if it is just a re-hashing of material from other courses (which much of this stuff is in many cases).

I will also compare it to Kindle Cash Craze 2.0 which I also purchased for $17.00 to see if there is any similarities other than the typical how to create an account & upload to again see if there is any REAL VALUE. I figure in comparing the two, there ought to be a SIGNIFICANTLY more amount of detail, secrets, grand pooba wizbangs or something that is worth $1000.00 (when you include freight) - right? and it should really stand out as a game changer for that price difference - right?

So after I view each one and compare them...then I will be testing the "money back guarantee" of one of them - afterall there's has to be a loser.

I have bookmarked this page so I will report my findings here in about a couple of weeks. I agree with pearsonbrown regarding legitimate reviews as there is just too much rhetoric here when these so called "new courses" pop out.

trooper19403

Kindle Cash Flow vs. Kindle Craze 2.0

Subject Matter (Chapters)

Subject Matter
Intro/Overview/Account Set Up (Both have)
Research/Hot Topics/Title/Description (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
Content/PLR (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
Ghostwriting/Outsourcing-good & bad (Both have) (KFC is more in depth)
PLR-the good, the bad & the ugly (Both have)
Book Cover (How to & etc.)(Both have)
Uploading Book (Both have)
Templates (Both have)

Well I'm back (unlike many on here whom have stated they would review something and never post their reviews). First of all let me tell you that I first went through the Kindle Cash Flow video series first. It was very well done in that it was organized, easy to watch, the dialog was cohesive and verbally flowed well - a "system" as he likes to refer to it as. The Kindle Craze 2.0 video series was less organized; the dialog was hard to stay focused as I found my mind wondering because of the presenter's command of the English language (not that it was extremely bad or anything like that..it was just not as captivating from a standpoint of verbally flowing well). The question is; does this "system" warrant or provide $980.00 more value?

So, as such, that has some value associated to it. However in the Kindle Craze 2.0, they covered marketing of your books and provided several tips on other things; for example what I will call a fourth source for content which no mention is even made of in the Kindle Cash Flow series (something the proclaimed "Kindle Cash King" should have included in his series costing what it costs). The question is; how can a SIGNIFICANTLY higher price be justified for the Kindle Cash Flow "system"?

Before going further, I will tell you that about 6 weeks ago I spent about 2 hours and 40 minutes watching a replay of a webinar (a webinar which cost me nothing to view); where ALL this Kindle info plus a few tips were presented exactly the same as both these series from a Ryan Deiss associate ...and in addition many of the things discussed within each series in re-hashed stuff we all already know from other courses we have purchased in the past...so I did not view this as GAME CHANGING original thought or information (there are a few nuggets, but they are NOT diamonds nor game changers).

I can go back and forth here doing an in depth comparison, however the question that really need answering is the question of VALUE; something I have a huge background in determining having been a Purchasing Manager in my day for several companies; a couple of Fortune 500 companies no less.

So value... here we have one series at $17.00 (download delivery) vs another at $997.00 (plus shipping)...well there is some value right there. Now in purchasing, we would get 3 -5 bids on an item; 5 being better as it gives you a better read. In that case we would throw out the cheapest because there just cant be value there (just ask yourself.. you want it...how cheap? which goes with you want it...how bad? because cheap = bad...and I'm NOT saying the Kindle Craze 2.0 series is a bad series because it isn't bad at all). Secondly, we would throw out the highest bid as it was obvious the person did not know the market and was figuring they should be rewarded by the inexperienced buyer (caveat emptor) as a penalty for the buyer not knowing his market either. Value is what gives a product sustaining power year after year.

However....I must quote the author here - by his own words, "The value that you have has to FAR OUTWEIGH the asking price" (his own statement on a video entitled "The #1 mistake most writers make") in the series. Perhaps in his mind the video series does just that BUT, the value that is being discussed is the VALUE perceived by the receiving party; NOT the other way around because that is how a market is determined as IT MUST BE WIN-WIN or someone feels cheated.

So with that said and getting back to our purchasing 101 lesson, you have probably already figured out that the price for the Kindle Cash Flow series should be somewhere in between the cheap $17.00 and the out of the ballpark price of $997.00...say somewhere in the range of $197.00 to $297.00 maybe $397.00 with more content.

Game Changer? - NOT...and that is what I stated from the very beginning that this product needed to be to JUSTIFY it's price (but how would you know until you bought it and had something to compare it to..that's been done now)

$197.00 - $297.00 - Acceptable asking price with respect to VALUE (Remember value is not only what is included information wise but also how it is presented and the ease to follow along)

Greater than $297.00 - Ask for that 30 Day Refund... which is the next test to be reported on here as to whether or not the 30 day Money Back No Questions Asked Refund works...I am sure you all will want to know that too since there has been alot of discussion regarding it in this thread.

**Please understand this is not meant to be taken as an affront to anyone, but rather just my opinion as to the VALUE of one product compared to a similar product.

sanjaysharma

thanks for coming here and posting your review but did not understand clearly what you are trying to say (sorry about this may be i do not have sharp mind) can you tell me in simple words that what is your opinion about this course. do you think that you are able to make more than $3000 per month by going through this course. in other words is that possible to make good money by going through this course.


sanjay sharma

trooper19403

Sanjay,

My review was to determine whether or not the Kindle Cash Flow course provided much more value for the price of $997 compared to the value provided by the Kindle Craze 2.0 course and in my analysis, it did not. I mentioned what I felt was a reasonable price based upon several factors; those being how well the information was presented, the ease to watch and listen to, the ability to follow along, the interest captivation of the information and its presentation style as a step-by-step system ..all of which provides a degree of value. HOWEVER the information presented was NOT a GAME CHANGER meaning the information did not provide anything new to the subject matter that would be EXTREMELY beneficial to the end user of the course.

As to your question of being able to make more than $3000.00 per month by using the course...well that depends entirely on you and the amount of effort you put forth along with how well you can promote your material through the internet. These are factors only you have control over to some degree which is also affected by how well you will understand the material provided and how creative you are as an individual.

So basically it is your decision if you want to spend $997 or $17.00 for basically, the SAME information. That decision should be a no-brainer to/for you.

Good Luck and Regards

Big Daddy

Thank you for the review and purchasing lesson. The fact that you took the time to report back says a lot about you and is appreciated.

Big Daddy

Trooper, Thank you for the review and purchasing lesson. The fact that you took the time to report back says a lot about you and is appreciated.

Jesus Perez

What technique is he teaching in Kindle Cash Flow? Rewriting PLR or the outsourcing method where other people write bits and pieces of content and you assemble it?

TheVA

Sanjay I would have to agree with some of the other posters who brought the course, because I would say that it is definitely worth the price.

I brought the program back when it first came on the market.

All in all I look at it this way you get what you pay for, I have purchased both programs as well as many other low and high ticket courses and very few come close to
the Kindle Cash Flow. There is no comparison in fact I would go as far as to say that its like comparing a Volkswagen to a Benz. Ty knows his stuff, he's had incredible results and it shows in his training. I've always approached things from the standpoint of looking to learn from the best. Do you want to learn how to make thousands of dollars with amazon from a $17.00 ebook or from someone who actually does it every month.

For me one of the other benefits to having the Kindle Cash Flow program is the continued support from Ty. He is open and responsive to my questions and always keeps his customers up to date on what is currently working and not working with Amazon. That type of continued hand holding support for me is something else that made the kindle cash flow course a good investment.

So in short, have had more than satisfactory results to the point that it was a big investment, but I've made it back many, many times over.

JMO

macmani

Hello TheVA:

I also bought Tys course and am about to put it into action. How is it going for you? Are you making good money? What kind of reports are you publishing into kindle? I also finished seeing all videos and its a great course with a ton of information.

trooper19403

You are welcome...I hope it helped you to make an informed decision if anything.

trooper19403

You hit the nail on the head Jesus. Of course there is more info like reports should be 30 - 40 pages and ebooks 80 - 120 pages or so and other little things which, in my mind doesn't add up to a $997.00 value.

TheVA

Yes macmani I purchased Tys kindle cash flow months ago and at this point I am making a healthy 5 figures a month. Its kind of ironic that I am just seeing your reply now because I just received my
monthly payment from amazon. I have all of the reports, wsos and ebooks on kindlre but i would still have to say that the way ty presents his set of systems is what really makes it worth it. I also geya lot out of the clearity and positive mindset that he shares in the program. As Tony Robbins says when you want the best make it a point to learn from the best. You can't be cheap when it comes to learning from the best and when it comes to making Kindle work Ty is the besy. I have brought everything on the subject and nothng else has made me money except this program.

georgebush

I would be interested in an answer to this as i have attended his webinar too

georgebush

thank you very much for your analysis -- its funny but intuitively this is what i was thinking anyway - could never afford the 1k and a good job too

georgebush

thanks very much for your analysis -- i did think this way intuitively and its nice to have someone back that up -- gd job i did not have the 1k to spend!

billybob

Huh? I think you must have calculated incorrectly. $6400 in sales in a month..... that will not lead to much in royalties, will it?

Dean Shainin

Does anyone here know if the latest Amazon crackdown on affiliates in California effects this system? The reason I'm asking here right now is because I don't want to listen to this Webinar tonight at 7:00 if that's the case...

This is a different aspect so I'm wondering if there would be an issue?

Thanks for any feedback.

MarkTX

Dean, it's my understanding that the Amazon Affiliate program is totally SEPARATE from the Kindle Direct Publishing side of the house.

I've read that if you're in a State that bans Amazon Affiliates, this does NOT affect your ability to publish and earn with Kindle publishing.

Mark

Dean Shainin

Can someone who has the Kindle cash flow system tell me without going into details if it includes selling Amazon products within the reports and or eBooks?

Again, the reason I ask is because of the California issue that does not allow the selling of affiliate related Amazon products. I don't want to pony up $997 if that's the case.

Thank You for any feedback...