williamspd

I loved the video and I want to know when the film is coming out? I was expecting at least Superman or something.

This video would be great if it was 'rise up and crush the elite rulers of our planet!' instead of 'buy this product'. Big on emotion and motivation (I just went to type 'emotivation' - BREAKING NEWS ::: Cash Siphon Inspires Internet Marketers To New Heights Of Neologisms!!! ::: BREAKING NEWS) but I gave up before the end of the video and went to shave off the beard that grew while I was watching it.

Heck, if I wanted to watch an hour long video I'd go and watch Mike Filsaime's paid voiceover actor tell me all about Evergreen webinars.....

Doiron

There was a post on Tiffany Dow's blog the other day addressing this kind of thing. She refuses to support products that use videos like this.

I wish all of the "experts" - they're not all gurus after all - would show this kind of good judgment.

I know that I wouldn't even recommend a movie to someone without knowing quite a bit about it, never mind a product that demands our money, and maybe more importantly, our time.

johnrapp

i think that's Dan Brock's voice on this video? whoever it is i've seen him in a few videos recently. And the products this guy pops up promoting are ALWAYS like half-ass set up. Something doesnt work right, and when you go to cancel their support system will basically give you all sorts of free premium upsell upgrades for free if you "decide" to not get the refund.

and im a ****in idiot because im probably about to buy this cash siphon thing out of curiosity and then be disappointed.

hm.

johnrapp

WOAH!! it's actually a real software program that you download to your hard drive! that was much unexpected. i like it.

heres some info they give you about what it is...

"
Cash Siphon is a powerful SEO tool. It is highly automated, advanced, and has never been released before.
You can use Cash Siphon on any website or link (eg your "money site") to inscrease it's traffic and search ranking for particular keywords.
Cash Siphon will benefit you in 3 ways:

1. Send traffic and SEO to your 'money site', supercharging the profit that site makes (this is the biggest benefit). If you don't have a website, check out some of the offers around the members area, or use a Siphon Cash Site.
2. Make affiliate commissions by redirecting your domain to an affiliate offer. If you choose to make a site later using this domain, you will get all the traffic and SEO benefits associated with it.
3. Get paid for shared ad revenue. Any ad revenue that cash siphon makes in the process is paid directly to your paypal account."

johnrapp

yeah that tells you absolutely nothing about it at all does it!! dam you dan brock

Jose Esteban

OK on one hand - I hate those videos that don't tell you crap about the product. On the other - Sean Donahoe recommended it and I like Sean's products. Plus he was big enough to address his promotion here. So there is some merit to the software/product despite the crappy marketing.

Now how does this product compare to SENukeX or SEO Link Robot? If you already have any of the two would you need Siphon-whatever? Can it add real value to your SEO arsenal?

RonnyRaygun

I'm beginning to wonder what costs more: Product development or Launch Promotions.

Anybody wanna take a guess? ;P

Husam

I totally agree with you, I did exactly the same search quote on Google before reading this thread, then when I found what I found, I just closed the tab with cash siphon in it

johnrapp

i took a video of inside the member's area of Cash Siphon .... here's what this thing actually does. it's actually pretty cool.


ps - yes i do realize now that the video's got that auto-pan/follow cursor option selected. sorry about that. just listen to what the guy's saying, and ignore the weird finger on the screen.

xxxJamesxxx

Thanks for the video John... People will be able to make a informed decision now whether it's right for them or not.

James Scholes

DreamShaper

Hi Chemo38:

You quoted Sayed who told us that this software grabs foreign articles by keyword/category and translates them into English.

I have past experience in the translation business. And really support the comment you make that translation software today ( the freebie stuff) is NOT of good enough quality for this kind of general translation task.

The articles produced will usually be instantly recognizable by literate native speakers as
a) translated
b) containing 'garbage' content due to mangled translation.

I tend to be proud of the quality of my content and information. And would be mortified to have translated garbage content published under my name. Or even under another name that I profited from. But this is me - others will have different standards.

A lot of spinning software has a similar flaw it translates from English to other languages and then back to create unique versions of a single article. This usually produces very poor quality content.

The only spinning software approach I find acceptable is where:
1) the software allows specific phrases in article to be marked for spinning
2) the software allows you to provide a list of acceptable spin alternates for those phrases
This then can produces multiple unique articles with acceptable quality maintained.


I think it is very much about one's approach to quality and also about ethics.

I agree with you that Google will eventually develop its algorithms to identify and penalize this kind of garbage content. High end translation software or natural language analysis software should have this kind of capability today.


There is one point I probably disagree on though I would appreciate if any other reader has eveidence one way or the other.

I suspect that MAY be possible to make money even now by creating this kind of garbage and posting it all over the web. Rather like the viagra and other stuff email spammers presumably are still making some money out of the garbage they inflict upon us all. (I actually haven't seen much viagra spam recently -- but then I don't look at spam much if can avoid it)

And this is where the ethics come in. Something that this whole thread raises in relation to the hyped up and possibly partly faked video that promoted Cash Siphon.
Even if you can make money and traffic for a little while by putting out garbage like this --- is this the kind of web you want to create? We make the world we live in.

Some of us clearly would not market using a video like the Cash Siphon video.
Clearly some of us would not want to be associated with anyone who would support marketing using a video like cash Siphon.
Equally clearly there are those who see no problem in using such a video as long as clear warnings are given.
And for others there is clearly no problem in using such a video nor even in faking the sales screen shots.
A whole spectrum of ethical stances.

I guess where I stand is 'fruit of the poisoned tree'. If the video is of dubious ethics then it is a fair indication that the underlying product has the same ethical (or not!) underpinning. I think I will unsubscribe from the list of whoever sent me this unless I have a very strong reason not to (eg know personally or some such).

Moreover if you test this Cash Siphon out(or any spinning traffic tool) please look closely at the material that is created in your name in hub pages and squidoo. I would imagine it does not actually carry your name just backlinks to your sites? Anyone clarify? But you will have made it. This will be part of your contribution to this world wide web.

I would encourage you to only use these kinds of software if the result on the web is something you would be proud of. Something you would be happy for friends and family to see as your contribution to this global info resource we create in the web.

I hope I am not putting any one or any attitude down here. If you need money then anything goes sometimes. What I am saying is let's be aware that we create this world we live in. And if we can have choices can we choose to make it better rather than worse?

housewarrior

You are right, of course, Alex. It would be impossible to do a completely fair job of it. And it is a drastic plan to do away with the scurrilous scammers. But you have to admit that the event would draw a fair sized crowd, and it would only be an e-hanging. Like a bad Halloween movie, the bad guy wouldn't really be done away with. He'd keep coming back again and again.
Norm

Royce Space

Great info johnrapp. If you don't mind, how many sale did you make? I use the chronic commission software and I highly recommend it. But I would like to also know about cash siphon software, they say it's really great. Thanks for the info!

4kgyasi

I say Amen to that hosuewarrior. There are just too many crappy products been promoted by gurus and semigurus!! I'm getting sick of it. Now any gur promoting such stupid products would no longer have on on their list.

Royce Space

Well, they though promote products because it's their business and I if you find it not good for you, ask for refund or don't buy it.

anton343

Still cant understand why your promoting someones stuff who is using fake screenshots as mentioned in an earlier reply

ras33

Ok I read though all of this reviews, but there is not one person that had admitted that they made money with this and how much after implementing the methods describe using this software.

Often I hear about how great a software is, and great traffic, and great rankings, but no one ever admits on making money with the product that is being talk about.

Hint....(Money is the number 1 reason why we are all here for)

Helloooo.....

Please if anyone is making money with CS since purchasing this product and using it then please post your results and your earnings....

Thank you

Royce Space

Well, credibility is important. But as long the product work, just forget the hype.

Royce Space

I understand you well. But if you want to check it out if the product works or not, then you go buy it and if doesn't work, go ask for refund. It's easy for clickbank to release a refund. It's simple, don't make it complicated in your part.

Doiron

I am so irritated at people saying that we can always refund a product.

You don't go into a marriage thinking, "Well, if it doesn't work out, there's always divorce."

You shouldn't buy a product unless you believe there's more chance than not that it will help your business. Refunds don't help anybody.

And I wonder if some vendors rely on the fact that some of us will forget to refund and miss the deadline? I'm embarrassed to say it's happened to me a couple of times.

As buyers, we should practice due diligence and try to determine if a product will help us or not. We can only do that if vendors exercise truth in advertising and transparency.

Don't we all want that?

Royce Space

Yes. Your correct! You must remember also that the creator of the site said in the sale page that I the product doesn't work, you can for a refund. It's your choice by the way. I understand your ethics. As a buyers, I'm just exercising my right.

NetAffiliate

Yes, refunds are nice, but sometimes refunds do not always work. Happened a couple of times to me, where I request a refund through Clickbank and my refund request is changed to a help request. So, I end up spending a lot of time I do not have trying to get a no question asked refund.

So, refunds are not always the solution.

craig j

Totally agree with this and the point NetAffiliate made too. Refunds are not a good answer.

Also, even if you do get your money back from the purchase you can never get the time back that you invested trying to make a dodgy product work - and that time is more precious than money.

I've bought a few dud products where I've spent a lot of time going through them and trying to implement them and even spending additional amounts on registering domain names etc only to figure out part way through it all that I've been conned. Getting a refund for just the purchase price doesn't come close to full compensation for what I wasted in time and money. Complete and truthful information about the product instead of vague or empty promises is what buyers need to make a sensible decision.

Cyril Ashby

We're lucky indeed to have Warrior Forum where we can vent our spleen, give our opinion, offer advice, tear things to pieces, and all in the pursuit of helping others to make informed decisions about their online/offline pursuits. I'm not a contributor in any sense of the word to the forum but I do follow the discussions and gain significantly from what I read here. If our teaching institutions offered this sort of forum, who knows how that might translate to all levels of training and skills in work place.

We, as individuals are reponsible for the decsions and choices we make and this forum aids and assists in that process. With the 1000's of products and ideas available here alone, (daunting wouldn't even begin to cover it) we have a massive advantage to research and make better choices for oursleves. There is literally something for everyone and as far as I'm concerned is unparalleled as a teaching/research tool.

For mine it's hats off to Warrior Forum for providing the best teaching and learning environment on the internet, in the furtherance of freedom of choice.

gbrooks

Thank you all for your wonderful comments. As I was using the cash siphon software, it didn't quite feel right. Yeah I'm one of the those that bought it. I'm now asking for my refund. This is really disappointing, I was really hoping to find a good system or strategy that would help me start selling affiliate products over websites. Would anybody know of something that they could recommend, I would greatly appreciate

johnrapp

yeah i refunded it

the thing hogged my entire system resources and took forever to scrape articles. then when it did finish it didnt end up posting them online (most of the time).

interesting idea, didnt work for me.

i did chronic commission too, didnt work either, largely because of the really large amount of money they require you sink into sending messages to other peoples' lists.

so yeah i do not recommend cash siphon.

diggdug

Thanks for the reviews guys. I'm still wondering with the new Clickbank rules and all when these products are going to actually improve.

hiphil

I didn't like the presentation video, so I closed the page (and saved $10) off the purchase price.

I downloaded and tried the software with 7 different sets of keywords, on each occasion running the software for between 1 and 4 hours.

When I launched the software, the display showed "Account Verified. Please wait...", and this remained unchanged for the duration of the test.


On three occasions, the software created 4 folders on my hard drive:
\English Articles
\French Articles
\German Articles
\Spanish Articles

These folders always remained empty.

On the other 4 occasions, the software did not even create these (empty) folders.

On each test, I created a folder to contain the "Save Account Details.csv", but the folder remained stubbornly empty while running the software.

I checked on Squidoo to see if any articles with my keywords had been posted while I was running the software. Needless to say there were no matching results on Squidoo.

I ended up asking for a refund of the purchase price.

It looks like a case of “If it seems too good to be true…”