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Old 09-07-2011, 07:34 PM   #1
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I've started Internet Marketing in June of 2010. So far I've only made $56 with Clickbank and CPA. I'm looking for a system to make money and I've seen great reviews for Bring the Fresh, Unstoppable Affiliate and Rank and Pillage. Which one should I get and why?
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Hmmmm... this is a tough one!

Bring The Fresh - they have some very good solid SEO technique's that work like a charm and I've seen a lot of people use their strategies with success - resulting in certain popular products who use this exact same system.

Rank & Pillage - I've not purchased this product personally, but the only reason that would really attract me to this is the fact that it has Brian G. Johnson behind it. He is an AWESOME teacher and marketer - who helped me make my $1, $100 and $1,000 with him online - I even made my little sister purchase his Halloween Super Affiliate Course last Halloween and she made her first $600 in her first Halloween Campaign 2010.

But I haven't heard of Unstoppable Affiliate so can't give you my 2 cent's on that.

However, my final verdict would be Bring The Fresh - simply because I still use quite a few of the tools they recommend, in conjunction with the hybrid method I have developed for myself with the other methods I've been exposed to in the past.

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Thanks for the reply Colin. I will take that into consideration.

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Hmmmm... this is a tough one!

Bring The Fresh - they have some very good solid SEO technique's that work like a charm and I've seen a lot of people use their strategies with success - resulting in certain popular products who use this exact same system.

Rank & Pillage - I've not purchased this product personally, but the only reason that would really attract me to this is the fact that it has Brian G. Johnson behind it. He is an AWESOME teacher and marketer - who helped me make my $1, $100 and $1,000 with him online - I even made my little sister purchase his Halloween Super Affiliate Course last Halloween and she made her first $600 in her first Halloween Campaign 2010.

But I haven't heard of Unstoppable Affiliate so can't give you my 2 cent's on that.

However, my final verdict would be Bring The Fresh - simply because I still use quite a few of the tools they recommend, in conjunction with the hybrid method I have developed for myself with the other methods I've been exposed to in the past.

Hope this helps,

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Hmmmm... this is a tough one!

Bring The Fresh - they have some very good solid SEO technique's that work like a charm and I've seen a lot of people use their strategies with success - resulting in certain popular products who use this exact same system.

Rank & Pillage - I've not purchased this product personally, but the only reason that would really attract me to this is the fact that it has Brian G. Johnson behind it. He is an AWESOME teacher and marketer - who helped me make my $1, $100 and $1,000 with him online - I even made my little sister purchase his Halloween Super Affiliate Course last Halloween and she made her first $600 in her first Halloween Campaign 2010.

But I haven't heard of Unstoppable Affiliate so can't give you my 2 cent's on that.

However, my final verdict would be Bring The Fresh - simply because I still use quite a few of the tools they recommend, in conjunction with the hybrid method I have developed for myself with the other methods I've been exposed to in the past.

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I've started Internet Marketing in June of 2010. So far I've only made $56 with Clickbank and CPA. I'm looking for a system to make money and I've seen great reviews for Bring the Fresh, Unstoppable Affiliate and Rank and Pillage. Which one should I get and why?
Hi. I would say Unstoppable Affiliate for its approach and the fact that in addition to the basic course, there is an 8-week coaching course you can choose to take advantage of, if you like. It's quite popular, and a lot of struggling marketers need the extra help.

I am also a member of Bring The Fresh. It's not for newbies looking for a step-by-step kind of product. It's more one of those programs that gives you a method and illustrates how you can incorporate it into other things. It's best for those who have a solid skill set under their belt. If I remember correctly, you also have to outsource your backlinks, which I am not a fan of because I prefer to do things myself.

I have never personally tried any of Brian's stuff, but I did get a review copy of it. It is a quality program from what I can remember, but nothing stuck out to me as like "This is amazing" kind of a thing.

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All of those programs suck. I would get either Commission Catapult or Marketing MacGyver.
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All of those programs suck. I would get either Commission Catapult or Marketing MacGyver.
where can I get it? Can I make it to promote my site? thx.
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Or you can do the old tried and true "fling as much as you can at the wall and see what sticks". Don't count it out... it might take longer, but you get a broader education.
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I've heard good things about Bring The Fresh. Kelly Felix knows a thing or two about internet marketing..
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Hi. I would say Unstoppable Affiliate for its approach and the fact that in addition to the basic course, there is an 8-week coaching course you can choose to take advantage of, if you like. It's quite popular, and a lot of struggling marketers need the extra help.

I am also a member of Bring The Fresh. It's not for newbies looking for a step-by-step kind of product. It's more one of those programs that gives you a method and illustrates how you can incorporate it into other things. It's best for those who have a solid skill set under their belt. If I remember correctly, you also have to outsource your backlinks, which I am not a fan of because I prefer to do things myself.

I have never personally tried any of Brian's stuff, but I did get a review copy of it. It is a quality program from what I can remember, but nothing stuck out to me as like "This is amazing" kind of a thing.

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Thanks for that reply. It will definitely be Unstoppable Affiliate now unless someone can give me a different program that works?
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Ain't tried Bring the Fresh or Rank and Pillage but I do have Unstoppable Affiliate and it is truly an amazing course would recommend it to anyone.

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All of those programs suck. I would get either Commission Catapult or Marketing MacGyver.
What an ignorant comment to make! Very well written explanation as to the 3 products you bashed and the two you recommended. You seem like the kind of internet marketer worthy of a large following
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WHY do they suck?
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I have both bring the fresh and unstoppable affiliate. I recommend both extremely highly.

They do not strike me as "one or the other" at all. They have a lot of different things in them. I am making well over 3x as much per month (not that I was making a ton before, but still) since joining BTF and am still going through unstoppable affiliate and implementing a lot of the things they are saying, step by step.

If you really just need one, unstoppable affiliate will walk you step by step all the way with very good info, and the video format where you can watch them do everything as they build and backlink one of the sites in front of your eyes, you cannot go wrong with it. You WILL make money if you do everything in that course, which is thorough and will take you some time.. as learning any skill well should.
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I agree totally....Unstoppable is just a really well put together program with many vids and explanations along the way, excellent info from a proven and successful IMer.
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I have Unstoppable Affiliate and Bring The Fresh, so I can speak about those two.

Unstoppable Affiliate is a good course, but its really very tactical in its approach. I like Andrew's delivery and style. The forums are unforuntately not so good.

Bring The Fresh on the other hand teaches you both strategy and tactics of SEO. When you take up their Full Disclosure upsell, you get access to some very good extra videos that talk about sales psychology and conversion. The forums are outrageously good.

Here's the thing. With Unstoppable Affiliate, I think you could follow the course and fail. On the other hand, if you follow the principles from Bring The Fresh, you will rank for your keywords eventually.

Both products have good support, but Kelly Felix and Mike Long give you their mobile numbers and Skype account information - that's commitment.

In terms of learning from previous success, with due respect to Andrew, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone with more runs on the board than Kelly and Mike. The Rich Jerk gave many people their start in IM and Mike Long was the launch manager for the first million dollar day launch (John Reese) and the biggest launch ever, StomperNet - $18m in first day sales.

To the comment about Bring The Fresh not being for "newbies" - that's absolutely wrong. Utterly incorrect. The Fast Start Guide (which gets updated fairly regularly) could be given to anyone and be simple enough to follow and have success with.

I doubt you could go wrong with either course to be honest, if you're new you'll learn some good stuff. I just think the forums on Bring The Fresh will give you much more long term value. As you progress from newbie onto experienced veteran, you'll have access to a community that's very helpful.
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I second that on the forum for bring the fresh. More than worth the price of admission many times over.
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Ok, two cents worth. I happen to know all three products (what does that tell you about me..lol). All three are great. If I had to pick one though I would have to pick Rank and Pillage. Why, because it is very detailed, thorough, and organized in a way that can be helpful for those struggling to figure out the IM world. It starts at the very beginning (understanding your market) and takes you step by step from keyword and niche research, finding great domain names, buying high PR sites, developing blogs, etc, all the way through. The core manual is over 200 pages and more videos (each one usually short, thank God) than I can count. They also provide you some Wordpress templates to get started.
Unstoppable Affiliate provides some great insights as well and set up in sections like Research, Site Strategies, Conversion Strategies, etc. The only two kinda/sorta negative comments is some of the videos are a little long for me (I call it IM ADD) and there is no manual (there are transcripts of the videos). Sometimes I just prefer looking at a manual because if it is well-written with pictures, I find that to be faster and easier for me.
When it comes to Bring The Fresh (I'm a Full Disclosure member), I would rate that last if you are still trying to figure out how to do things. Don't get me wrong, Kelly and Mike do a great job with this and their forum is awesome. Plus you are learning from two successful IM'ers. However, other than the Fast Start Manual, I find the videos to be very long for the points they are making. You might spend fifty minutes listening to Mike and Kelly talk about let's say outsourcing and find out when it is done, they could have told you everything in a third of that time. When they do their videos it is like sitting in the room with them so that is cool. The problem I have is that I still have a fulltime JOB and so my time to develop my business is limited, so I don't have the luxury to spend most of my time on 1 video. As mentioned before Mike and Kelly are very accessible and you will learn a lot from them.
So I would like to close by telling you that the order I reviewed the products are the order I rank them if you are still trying to sort out how to do this business. If you do have a pretty good idea about the business (or at least you think you do), then it would be in reverse order with Bring The Fresh being first. However, I'm actually going to throw a new name in the hat. Brian Johnson has an update to his Halloween product that just came out. Why do I like it? Even though the subject is mainly geared for Halloween, he has expanded his information that you can use for any niche at any time (like Christmas) so it can be a great resource. I found myself understanding things a little better/clearer from a quick look at his information than I did from some other products I have seen over the past several months.
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i'm checking out Bring The Fresh and Unstoppable Affiliate too. and i got some questions about both programs. do i need to purchase other products (AMR, UAW) or get in monthly memberships (BMR, AMA)?

i got a fair bit of knowledge in affiliate marketing (i purchased affilojetpack by mark ling), so which one will cater to me more? i would to say i'm still new at this, but would'nt want to go back to learning how to purchase a domain name and all..

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i'm checking out Bring The Fresh and Unstoppable Affiliate too. and i got some questions about both programs. do i need to purchase other products (AMR, UAW) or get in monthly memberships (BMR, AMA)?

i got a fair bit of knowledge in affiliate marketing (i purchased affilojetpack by mark ling), so which one will cater to me more? i would to say i'm still new at this, but would'nt want to go back to learning how to purchase a domain name and all..

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I don't know what "AMR" and "UAW" stand for, but Unstoppable Affiliate and Bring The Fresh are both one-time payments, and you will need at least one domain and hosting, regardless of the program you choose. These costs are standard. A top-level domain will cost you around $12 for a year, and hosting (with unlimited domains), which is what you should get cost less than $10 a month. You should also get an autoresponder like Aweber $1 trial for the first month, so that you can build a list.

With Bring the Fresh, you have to pay for your backlinks (at least for the first site -- until you are provided with a report and know where the backlinks are coming from and can do it yourself. There are also a number of product recommendations that Kelly and Mike make to you that will set you back a good amount of money, if you choose to purchase them.

With Unstoppable Affiliate (my pick), there's basically just one up-sell, which is an optional 8-week coaching program you may choose to take part in. It's quite popular.

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I don't know what "AMR" and "UAW" stand for, but Unstoppable Affiliate and Bring The Fresh are both one-time payments, and you will need at least one domain and hosting, regardless of the program you choose. These costs are standard. A top-level domain will cost you around $12 for a year, and hosting (with unlimited domains), which is what you should get cost less than $10 a month. You should also get an autoresponder like Aweber $1 trial for the first month, so that you can build a list.

With Bring the Fresh, you have to pay for your backlinks (at least for the first site -- until you are provided with a report and know where the backlinks are coming from and can do it yourself. There are also a number of product recommendations that Kelly and Mike make to you that will set you back a good amount of money, if you choose to purchase them.

With Unstoppable Affiliate (my pick), there's basically just one up-sell, which is an optional 8-week coaching program you may choose to take part in. It's quite popular.

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thanks Joey for the reply!

AMR is article marketing robot. UAW is unique article wizard.
i already have a domain n hosting, those are necessary so I'm fine with the costs.

how much is the coaching program? will the upsell still be available if I decided not to purchase it straight away after getting the course?

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i'm checking out Bring The Fresh and Unstoppable Affiliate too. and i got some questions about both programs. do i need to purchase other products (AMR, UAW) or get in monthly memberships (BMR, AMA)?

i got a fair bit of knowledge in affiliate marketing (i purchased affilojetpack by mark ling), so which one will cater to me more? i would to say i'm still new at this, but would'nt want to go back to learning how to purchase a domain name and all..

thanks
With Bring the Fresh they recommend using a backlinking service that is I think $67 per month, it also recommends using UAW. Rank and Pillage also recommends backlinking services, one that costs $67/month and another one that is about $200 for each site. I don't know about Unstoppable Affiliate. I bought that course but have only watched the first section so far.

I don't remember how much the upsell for Unstoppable Affiliate was but I think it was around $200. And I don't think it is still available if you don't take it immediately, because I don't see a link to it anywhere in the members area. I passed on it.
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Rank and Pillage has three tiers of supporting your site that they show you. A $100/month model, a $67/month model, and a free model. So you can start with the free model and move up to the higher ones when you start making decent money or just stay with the free one if its working out.
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thanks highrider and jabro.
i'm not sure i can afford a monthly fee of anything.. unless its really good and helps a lot.

after all this reviewing for the past few days, seems to me BTF is out. now its either Unstoppable Affiliate, or Rank and Pillage..

what exactly are the differences with rank n pillage models??
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