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Old 08-19-2008, 05:59 AM   #1
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Default Alex Goad's Affiliate Payload..

I figured I would start one, it's due to hit the streets in a few hours time.

Would be interested to hear what people have to say about it.

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I'm on Jonny Andrews list and he is promoting this product,
but the way he's doing it is really funky.

Has anyone seen this technique before? And if so do you know
if it works?

Find Out If Affiliate Payload Is Worth All The Hype... (Video Proof And Killer Bonus Here)

Not my link, that's what he's sending to his list.

Seriously, is this a good affiliate marketing technique?

I have not got the product so I can't comment on it myself.
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:14 PM   #3
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I must have had 5 promos for it so far today from various lists I'm on, all spamming "top secret xyz" , I'm amazed that IM to IM, they don't simply ditch that verbiage. Be interesting to see what members have to say, it's probably worth a punt either way.

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I purchased "Google Payload" from Alex Goad - It was poorly written and only offered a portion of the information, the rest was part of an upsell. It turned out to be a rehashed arbitrage scheme. I am curious to find out if Alex has gotten his act together or is just peddling a much-hyped, well marketed piece of fluff again. I might give him another shot if I hear good things on the forum.

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Affiliate Payload is totally new stuff.

Actually I am shocked while reading the almost 300-page guide.

It will be the best money you've spent in a big while.

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The questions I ask is if this does in fact work so great that Alex can make such a huge amount of money throught this great secret,

1/ Why does he need to sell it to make more money?

2/ Why would you share it other people for basically peanuts and then risk loosing the power of what you found, cause too many people start doing it?

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Just bought it. haven't got very far with it yet but it doesn't look like fluff at all. almost 300 pages, a lot of videos, seems to be about CPA marketing, which I've long wanted to know more about. I'm not unhappy with my purchase thus far and I've read hundreds of these things.

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The questions I ask is if this does in fact work so great that Alex can make such a huge amount of money throught this great secret,

1/ Why does he need to sell it to make more money?

2/ Why would you share it other people for basically peanuts and then risk loosing the power of what you found, cause too many people start doing it?

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Hi Kev,

There's always some truth in that, but lets not forget it's peanuts per sale but I must have had a half dozen plugs for this from pretty big name marketers, I'm willing to bet Alex has made a fortune in 48 hours and the $77 is just to get you to purchase, the big money is in the backend monthly fee he's charging for the upsell, $67 every month.

So in answer I would guess that :

1/ Why not make more money that's what the guy does, and I suspect he's liable to generate tens of thousands of dollars per month from renewals

2/ Perhaps it's just at the point where people are starting to become savvy to it and he figures why not cash in if things are about to break loose anyway, plus lets face it , it doesn't matter how good the information is, nothing is ever as simple as IM'ers make out and 99.9% of people simply will not see it through.

I guess that would be my take..

I've just ordered it, and I'm not a friend of Alex's and have no connection whatsoever, so I'll give it a good read and see what I think, I've also purchased the $67 per month upsell, so I'll keep an eye on that, he's going to have to produce some extremely useful content for that much per month.

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The questions I ask is if this does in fact work so great that Alex can make such a huge amount of money throught this great secret,

1/ Why does he need to sell it to make more money?

2/ Why would you share it other people for basically peanuts and then risk loosing the power of what you found, cause too many people start doing it?

Kev
these are valid questions to be asked for most of the IM products coming out. In Alex´s case I have found that the amount of good content is higher than in many other products.

As far as the upsell is concerned I am skeptical if he will be able to meet the expectations. I have seldom seen upsells that kept the quality promise for a longer period (except maybe PPCclassroom where Heather Paulson made extremely good contributions). I am also no friend of interviews presented to us with the same gurus over and over again. Let´s see how Alex handles the job.

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Ok, just managed to finish the PDF off, taken me over 4 hours or more, some parts I had to re-read twice to take it in properly.

My initial thoughts are that for the price, this is good stuff, although it's absolutely not for the faint hearted and not for beginners, no matter what Alex stipulates. I can say now as well, if your concerned this is the just some rehash of another product, it's not, this pretty much , bar the chapter on Adwords and how to create keyword lists is completely unique I think.

For those that have no idea about the product, this is essentially CPA for dummies, creating an ROI from the CPA networks by driving traffic to them via various sources including PPC . The book covers a huge number of variations on leveraging the CPA networks by essentially brokering traffic.

Some things you need to know in advance, you are going to need to have a solid understanding of Adwords and how to implement , test, split test etc a lot of campaigns.

You are going to need to be more visible than most systems, in that you may even need to get on the phone and deal with CPA networks before you even start. You are going to be appointed a manager for each network you join and via MSN communicate with him on a number of issues.

You will have to become accostomed to a whole new set of "can I - can't I" rules as to what techniques you can use to drive traffic to each individual networks, doesn't sound like they take kindly to you breaching the T&C, and you would not even be doing anything strange to get banned, it seems some simply do not accept certain standard IM methods.

You are also going to need to spend a considerable amount of time on getting started with this, especially if you're going to attempt the more complex methods described later in the book, including the creation of your own incentived websites. I can see a good couple of weeks of work going into this realisticly before you're really ready to hit this hard.

There's a lot of content in the book, it's about 300 pages, that shouldn't put you off a such, there's a lot of white space, large text, he's kept each paragraph digestable , I did like the distinct lack of fluff and filler, total % of filler, I would say 1%, the other 99% is "how to".

For the record, Alex could do with a spell checker, it's peppered with typos, In fact the whole thing sort of feels like it's been written "on the fly", it feels like he's just sat there at 3:00am and spilled his guts, literallly typing out each process he had tried as it popped into his head.

I doubt the entire 300 pages had more than a cursory scan as far as editing or spell checking. Do I care, no not really, I would rather have 300 pages of usable information with some typos etc than 300 pages of perfect prose with no decent content.

The bottom line is I guess, will you make a ROI, can you generate the traffic for less cost than the CPA networks will pay you for your leads, I guess only time will tell,but the potential seems so on paper, but of course so far we only have the author of the books word on it.

Bottom line, If your even half interested in CPA networks, then this is absolutely worth it, I've already learnt a few things I had no idea even existed within this area, It's catagorically not regurgitated content, this is the first time I've seen this much information provided on CPA networks in a manner which makes it digestable, it's a fair price for the product, if your asking for a refund on this, it's because your a lame refunder, it's that simple.

I guess in my rambling conclusion, and I apologise I'm no wordsworth, yes it's definatley worth a punt, but not for beginners, Alex is talking out of his ASS if he seriously thinks the average newbie wouldn't get completley lost in this process, if you have no idea how to even create profitable Adword campaigns etc yet, then this isn't for you, if you don't have solid time to invest and some money to invest then it's probably not for you.

If you are at least at the level where you can manage an PPC campaigns etc, then I think some people could do very well out of this product, the potential is there, but like absolutely everything else, it's not as simple as the sales copy suggests, there's some workload involved here, but in my opinion, it's worth it.

I will be giving the basic premise a whirl very shortly, it's an area of affiliate marketing I've not given enough credence to, Alex has provided a pretty solid blue print and not left many questions, I'm giving it a solid thumbs up for the right kind of person.

Please note I've had no time to even start viewing the videos he included.

It's available here: Affiliate Payload : Countdown Initiated!

For the record, I have never met Alex Goad, never talked to him, not even via e-mail, I've just read helpful feedback on products before on this forum whilist never registering and I wanted to perhaps do the same.

Good luck and all the best

SH.
There is no content at all available in the upsell yet, he says that's due to server load, err, no comment, sounds fishy frankly, more like he's just have not had time to get them up yet, but that's fine, no biggie, there is so much content to digest at this point, and I've not even started on the videos he provided.

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I mostly agree with SimonHarrison,
I didn't read through the whole manual but most of it.
The product is worth the money it costed with really some brilliant ideas such as the Global Hijack Method.
The typos are quite frequent but as SimonHarrison, I don't care because the value is really there.
It will though need some time, money and adwords knowledge to implement. But the potential is absolutely there.
The videos are somehow a recap or some kind of overview of the manual but still helpful to assimiliate the given information.
Lastly, I don't think it would be very understandable for total newbies.

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(It is a shame the product is so hypey and has a severe recurring upsell.)

Content wise this product is pretty good. It is a bit messy and scattered but the ideas are good for people who want to stretch from a hobby to a business level.

Not for newbies. When you are ready to spend a few hundred dollars to test campaigns then go for it. The media buying section is pretty accurate and the facebook section is on the money.

This is not an overnight riches program - you will need to invest time money and energy into finding profitable campaigns


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I agree with other positive comments here. However, the videos are lame and pretty much useless and the fact that the OTO videos are not available yet shows once again how many products are launched prematurely. Will be canceling my OTO upgade.
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I agree with other positive comments here. However, the videos are lame and pretty much useless and the fact that the OTO videos are not available yet shows once again how many products are launched prematurely. Will be canceling my OTO upgade.
Yeah agreed, the videos I think seem to be a bit of an afterthought but the actual content of the PDF , the more I re-read, the more I feel for the price he's put this out at, this is actually one of the very few decent products to have come out in a while. It really is genuinely new news to the vast majority of people. The more I read the more I also think this is a good months work before you can really start solid, not two weeks, just applying to all the CPA networks and finding the best deal across so many offers on so many networks, that alone is resource heavy.

That said, nothing good ever truly came easy, out of the dozen or so ebooks on IM, I've read in the last month alone, I'm putting this right up there, on the proviso, you have some money already to work with , solid Adwords experience and plenty of time. Alex Goad has IMO, provided quality and value for money, credit where it's due.

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Just taken a look and all the videos are now up on the OTO page. I find it annoying also when not everything is up, but with 300 pages to go through and apply, it did not bother me so much.

Some thoughts I had when reading the ebook:
- this is something that I can do and start making money with almost immediately
- there are a number of tactics that are contained within that I can also apply in other parts of my business
- why is this contained within an ebook when it could easily be made into a thousand dollar big bucks package? Perhaps just smart marketing to overdeliver a ala Frank Kern style.

It's no secret that I am a big fun of Alex, as all of his products are top-notch. However, when I receive multiple emails from my list thanking them for directing them towards a product it shows that I am doing a lot right.

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I thought this might be a fun read since people I actually know recommended it.

Personally though, I don't think it delivers.

It may dazzle you with a large number of colorful terms and abbreviations. Overall though, it's weak. It tries to be so much, but ends up being not very much of anything. It's very long, but still lack the depth of a quality how-to product - it has a very outspoken tendency to make things that really aren't that simple sound very simple.

The validity of a number of claims in the book are questionable to say the least.

In one section it talks about incentivized offers. In one example it mentions the idea about using incentives to get prospects to sign up for say 20 CPA offers that pay 40 bucks each (or something like that)

The user is promised a handsome reward for doing this.

How many companies pay big bucks for leads that have only filled out a form for their offer - not because they were interested in their product or service but because they were promised something very valuable?

In other words - Show me where to find advertisers who will pay $40-50 for an incentivized offer (that doesn't require the prospect to actually buy something)
I certainly couldn't find any page in the guide that mentioned it. But maybe I just didn't look hard enough.

It also talks about using redirects with PPC because you're not allowed to link directly to the CPA offer landing page. Well, you're not allowed to use redirects in Adwords. The book succesfully fails to mention that. As far as I could tell. Correct me if it actually does mention it.

It talks about dropshipping. I don't use dropshipping personally, but have talked to plenty of people who has. If you claim that most dropshippers are genuine I think you are either very optimistic or just haven't tried to actually do it.

He also talks about SEO. One claim is that you can hire someone on a elance and you
will be able to rank well for mid-level keywords in 4-6 weeks. I'm not disputing the time claim here, but it seems as if it came from out of the blue. If you know anything about SEO you know that it just doesn't work that way.

And the claim that companies such as whenu are 100% ethical -- I will leave that one to the adware experts.

It does provide some relatively decent advice on some concepts such as article writing - but nothing groundbreaking. Nothing you couldn't find on this forum.

It gets points for being rather creative. But it does leave one with a lot of doubt that the claims of making the numbers pan out in most people's favor isn't as simple as the book makes them out to be. I personally manage just shy of $2 million USD per year in Adwords spend, but by no means would I say that making a profit with the concepts presented in this particular e-book are a straightforward task.

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Martin,

That's exactly what I put in my bonus. I got this thing in advance and thought it was great except for the fact he didn't tell anyone about these little "secrets"

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How many companies pay big bucks for leads that have only filled out a form for their offer - not because they were interested in their product or service but because they were promised something very valuable?

In other words - Show me where to find advertisers who will pay $40-50 for an incentivized offer (that doesn't require the prospect to actually buy something)
I certainly couldn't find any page in the guide that mentioned it. But maybe I just didn't look hard enough.
There's an entire freaking LEGION of companies out there who are all for this. A little "underground society" has sprung up around what I like to call "Coreg Morons".

Bottom line? Yes, places like this exist and there are THOUSANDS of people making money off of them.

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Affiliate Payload is definitely not a quick read. This product is so much better than half of the new releases that have hit this forum in awhile.

As far as newbies go, if you ain't in a rush to wake up to a million dollars in your clickbank account tomorrow, you can make some serious money with the tactics that are outlined.

Alex does mention in the pdf that the formula can be improved upon and despite the overall simplistic presentation of adwords advertising , he never gives the connotation that anyone would get rich overnite.

The overall feel of Affiliate Payload is one of broadening your horizons to think outside the box when it comes to becoming a profitable affiliate. If you're gonna quit your day job, at some point you gotta get past slapping a link on a website and hoping it converts.

Sure you could probably find most of this information on the internet and in this forum, but who has time for that?

If this guy is willing to take the time out to compile valuable content that can and will put money in your pocket, than why shouldn't he get paid for his time?

Anyway I don't know and have never met Alex Goad, but I did shoot him an email thanking him for creating what I feel will be a valuable product for quite some time.

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Flippen Heck Martin you're a hard man to please :-)

I hear you on a couple of issues, I do think the book has a huge tendancy to skim over the reality involved in time and costs that are involved in applying some of the techniques.

It's also somewhat liberal with the effectiveness of some of the techniques in that just because you do XYZ it won't automatically result in $$$, not even close. I know because some of them are techniques I already use and things are not as simple as the book suggests.

The book also tells you in pretty much every section that this section is the most powerful section in the book, and so easily you can earn huge sums of money and be living in a mansion, etc etc but I think the intention is just to inject a little enthusiams and motivation into people, because lets face, this is something that most people will not follow, it requires work, and thought , time and money , so most will simply put it aside in their ever growing list of products they buy and never use, so I think a lot of the hyperbole can be attributed to simply getting people revved up enough to use it.

However in general, I will stick my neck out and say it's excellent for the right person, ie one with some experience, some available funds and time to play with.

It costs a tiny $77 lousy bucks, calling it "weak" seems really harsh, I mean really, I've seen plenty of weak stuff, and this doesn't sit in that catagory, not even close.

Overall I've been impressed and while I know the process is nothing like as automatic as the book suggests I can clearly see potential.

I re-read the entire thing from cover to cover again this morning, I see a few holes , but none that are unsurmountable, It did ocurr to me of course one major flaw, the testing, it is essentially from what I can see impossible to track your ads effectively, because you can't have adwords tracking code on the CPA's thank you page, so your tracking is going to be painful, it's a major issue tbh , made even worse if you go directly to the CPA's pitch page, as oppposed to building in a squeeze page.

Even if you built in a squeeze page you could only track how many people signed up to your freebies, there is no way of knowing which keywords, etc are delivering results on the CPA page, none, althought the book mentions that some networks may have additional tracking you can use.

Makes it very akward, as all you can do is basic testing, ie I sent 500 clicks, I made X ROI ...You can change adverts, etc, split test CTR's etc, but you can't determine which keywords delivered the ROI properly and considering the book suggests using thousands of keywords, that's a bit of a pain.

But that aside, I think even one of the techniques in here, is worth the $77.

Cheers
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PS, I sent a ticket in to support yesterday for this product, now baring in mind the volume of support tickets they must have had since launch, I got an answer within 24 hours, I think that's pretty good, and I'm always behind people who back up their product with at least basic support.

P.P.S : Some of the videos are actually pretty good, most are just recapping but some offer additional information worth knowing, they are worth not skipping.

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The product does seem to deliver. When compared to some of the other so called inclusive packages recently released. It is more straight to the point, but it does lack perhaps some more detail in some of the areas.

I love when the gurus say they reveal everything, and then don't ... you kind of expect it, but it would be nice if one went, ok here is an example, project, start to finish.

I recently got Super Speed Wealth, and the idea is great, 70% of what you need is there, but if you follow the steps, you end up with pretty much $0 ... if you apply any other knowledge you have about PPC like pay more at the beginning and reduce, then the sales come.

Its not a critism rather an observation that "reveals all" is used over frequently, and 99% of the times it is, its misleading. Or needs to be taken with some caution.

As for me and Affiliate Payload, I like it. Not applying stuff from it today, but plan to quickly.

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I think what all the "Haters" must keep in mind is no $77 ebook is going to unlock the secrets to the universe. Seriously, do you really expect it to?

What I DO expect to unlock the secrets is when I pay $2500 - $10,000 for something. Now THAT needs some beef behind it.

The missing element is the personal hands on attention. If you're still fishing around in the $77 clickbank/paydotcom range looking for that "secret" you're not actually ready.

These books are (in several cases) fantastic first steps. I know I got mine from Day Job Killer and used what I learned there to build a great life. I then went on to buy Product Launch Formula and Mass Control...

The combo of those 3 products (one being a dorky ClickBank ebook) made all the difference. But had it not been for my willingness to work on what I read in DJK I would never have even cracked the surface of all this.

Had I not cracked the surface I would never have made the money to buy those 2 other products...

Now I buy the periodic WSO and enjoy not dealing with a real job.

It's up to you what works and what doesn't. Is Affiliate Payload your starting block? Maybe. Maybe not. Either way, nothing works until you work it.

I find the single biggest trait folks have who are NOT making money any time soon is that they bitch about freaking everything.

Just what I've noticed... not pointing fingers.

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Yeah I bought the product yesterday. I'm a member of Alex's players with money club, and while things there haven't exactly gone swimmingly, Alex has proved to us guys beyond a shadow of a doubt that he REALLY knows his stuff.

There's definitely money to be made by using the affiliate payload techniques, but I agree with some users here, it does feel thrown together.

Still it's all about the knowledge inside, and what we do with it...

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There's an entire freaking LEGION of companies out there who are all for this. A little "underground society" has sprung up around what I like to call "Coreg Morons".

Bottom line? Yes, places like this exist and there are THOUSANDS of people making money off of them.
A legion of companies? Underground society? I don't mean any offense here, but I really don't know how to respond to that. Just because you claim that it is true doesn't mean that it suddenly makes sense from a common sense/business standpoint. Until you put some weight behind your statement I don't see how I can attribute any validity to it.


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Flippen Heck Martin you're a hard man to please :-)
Well, thank you Simon

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That's exactly what I put in my bonus. I got this thing in advance and thought it was great except for the fact he didn't tell anyone about these little "secrets"



There's an entire freaking LEGION of companies out there who are all for this. A little "underground society" has sprung up around what I like to call "Coreg Morons".

Bottom line? Yes, places like this exist and there are THOUSANDS of people making money off of them.
I am sorry to burst your bubble Jonny but this is 100% false. The only incentivized CPA campaigns are ones with forced or hidden forced continuity that require the customer to call back and cancel.

I'm sure you mean "CPA offer filling" forums, they are 100% against the TOS of almost every company or network. I've been to such forums and the ones who make the most money are the Administrators.

I haven't gone through Alex's product (I'm sure it must be good, he sounds like a very nice guy) but this is something I had to answer.
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I wouldn't call it fluff but in my opinion it's not much different than the 40 other products on CPA and affiliate offers.

Sure they use some new jargon to make it sound like great new stuff but in my opinion you probably already know most of what's in there.
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A legion of companies? Underground society? I don't mean any offense here, but I really don't know how to respond to that. Just because you claim that it is true doesn't mean that it suddenly makes sense from a common sense/business standpoint. Until you put some weight behind your statement I don't see how I can attribute any validity to it.
Well, I'm sure you guys all have a point. The only thing I know is there are freaking LEGIONS of people out there making boat loads of money with these CPA offers.

My claims are more than backed up in my video. Hence me offering it. But either way it's up to you what you decide to try out. Personally I don't care. I emailed my list today telling all of them to just forward their receipts for AP... no matter who they bought from.

I just gave it to everyone who bought regardless of affiliate source. I think the points brought up in these threads were valid. AP does leave a few things out.

Will these techniques violate the TOS?

Who cares.

The person who plays will not be harmed simply because they won't be the ones joining as affiliates. If you're new and you need some help these massive societies will give you the guidance you need.

Obviously the problem here is the taking of action... without that you're totally screwed.

Ralph... I'm not sure why that's a problem? Forced/hidden continuity... I understand that stuff is all over the place... but if you can profit from it... what's the problem?

You have to know how the game is played. (As with all things)

Hence my video.

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I'm afraid my experience of the support was awful today. It was rude and condecending throughout, I wonder if Alex is aware of it, put me right off him, the company and any future products.

However being professional and trying to rise above my treatment I still stand by my initial opinion that it's a solid product , and I feel he deserves due credit for it, however, I appreciate those already knowledgeable about CPA may not benefit as much as others.

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You're welcome :-)

I have very little experience of CPA so I do take on board comments from yourself and others with experience in CPA who are saying it's old news and flawed, but every product has a market and I guess is written for those new to CPA rather than those to whom it's more old hat than black hat.

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It's no secret that I am a big fun of Alex, as all of his products are top-notch. However, when I receive multiple emails from my list thanking them for directing them towards a product it shows that I am doing a lot right.
As an affiliate promoting the product, with a testimonial on the sales page, your review, or "thoughts you had reading the book" are rather suspect...

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. Kind of funny they are trying to teach IM, yet don't even protect their download page. So I've heard.
Actually that's something I was amazed about as well, I even commented on that very issue to them, seems crazy to me, not even the most basic of protection. Braver than me, our download page is locked inside a members area with IP protected logins.

They basically didn't want to spend time on CS for lost passwords etc , I can see their point but still, risky way to go about it.

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As an affiliate promoting the product, with a testimonial on the sales page, your review, or "thoughts you had reading the book" are rather suspect...

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I thought of making a clever sarcastic reply to this remarkable act of cynicism. However the true answer is that I promoted the product and gave a testimonial because...I think that it's a great product which has been backed up by the fact that the majority of people in this thread also think so. And I have now had 11 people from my list also express similar opinions.

Couldn't resist commenting on the comment before this one which is complaining that the basics are also shown. Made me laugh, cos you just can't win. If you show them you get people whining. If you don't you also get people whining. And the fact that the poster is proud that he managed to download it for free...well in my books theft is not to be proud of but should be shunned.

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Couldn't resist commenting on the comment before this one which is complaining that the basics are also shown. Made me laugh, cos you just can't win. If you show them you get people whining. If you don't you also get people whining. And the fact that the poster is proud that he managed to download it for free...well in my books theft is not to be proud of but should be shunned.
That's a fair point IMO, I think we can see that the book was intended to take people who had no CPA experience and show them a "how to" and part of that is dealing with the basics. I notice throughout the e-mails I received they were promoting the products to beginners as well as the more advanced so I guess it's important to deal with stuff that to many is just beyond stupidly basic.

It seems to those who just didn't really understand CPA, the book has valuable content and to those who do understand CPA it's really just a compilation of the basics, which is where the huge differential in the opinions is coming from.

My 2 cents.. Luke, please check PM by the way , I was checking out your sig.

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Your 2nd link in your signature redirects to video opt in page. After submission, you are redirected to your blog page. At this time, My AV program is being alerted for that page.

My Nod 32 AV program says" Probaby a variant of html/download.agent trojan...My AV is putting offender into Quarantine.

Just an FYI.
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I am sick of people saying... Don't waste your money! Learn free from forums!

Honestly, forums are full of people posting to up their rep and advertise there signature. No one is going to put as much effort into providing good information as someone who is doing it for retribution.

We all know there's crap and that the information can be found for free... but it comes down to learning curves and effective assimilation.

I think this course is great, i don't care if the info is free. I don't feel like searching through miles of crap to find it. I've seen every free guide around... it helps but it's never as good as the best of these courses.

95% of the time, people who say learn on forums have their own teaching products or are affilaites for coaching products... right?
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Honestly I'm getting really tired of marketers selling general old information and making it sound like it's some secret new stuff that "no one is telling you about".

EDIT: I forgot to mention, Alex if you're reading this before releasing your next product please take the time to proofread it or pay someone to do it. Your e-book is full of grammatical errors and spelling mistakes. You might not think it's important but it doesn't look very professional.
I really don't find this kind of review helpful, because it's not a review at all. No specifics at all.
If this is old information, where was it published before?
Then I could look it up and maybe save myself some money..... So - where else is this information available? Give us some specifics, you critics. Where is the information available? What are the best sources? Who else has organized it/

If you can't help us out with specifics, why do you waste your time making these nebulous critical posts?

This section is supposed to be for "helpful, INTELLIGENT reviews....."

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I was asked to review this eBook last week, I have to say it's awful. I was particularly horrified by the section which tells the reader to lie to CPA companies when applying for their schemes, it even gives a list of the lies to tell.

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I really don't find this kind of review helpful, because it's not a review at all. No specifics at all.
If this is old information, where was it published before?
Then I could look it up and maybe save myself some money..... So - where else is this information available? Give us some specifics, you critics. Where is the information available? What are the best sources? Who else has organized it/

If you can't help us out with specifics, why do you waste your time making these nebulous critical posts?

This section is supposed to be for "helpful, INTELLIGENT reviews....."

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If you've got a copy of this ebook by Alex Goad, and if you look hard enough, each and everyone of the 8 or 9 concepts he presents in the guide has been sold as a WSO in one form or another.

- Certainly the concept of Newsgrabbing, making a poll and directing them to a email submit is not new.
- PPV using adware networks is not new, got a copy of this concept 6 months ago from a WSOer
- Setting up an incentives site is nothing new
- PPC to CPA, tons of stuff on that on this forum along with a few WSO's using tricky concepts for better ROI
- Media Buying from Adbrite and others is nothing new and is just an extension to PPC not using Adwords, a few WSOs on that.
- Tons of stuff on building Facebook Apps based on CPAs on this and other forums.

I am not a WSO junkie and only buy a few of them. But each and every concept he presents has been discussed before and is available here or other forums like DP if you look hard enough.

But the point is time. Who really has the time to hunt down and look for all this crap and still have the time to use the concepts to make money.

What Alex Goad did was he compile a few methods in a concise manner into an ebook and a few videos.

Everyone on this board is at a different stage of Internet Marketing. The ones who know about these concepts and feel they have to whine about it saying they are old.. will let them. Then there are others who think the world owns them a 'Free Lunch' and want to mooch everything for free, they feel everyone should be helping them and get upset when they don't. They give up being bitter and eventually quit.

The end result... the end game is that Alex Goad is an advanced marketer. He doesn't give a crud what you think of this ebook. But what he did was take the time and effort to write the ebook, outsource the videos and made a heck of a lot of money doing so. Money that no of us made that day... just sitting on his butt and letting all his JV partners and affiliates do all the work.

But the biggest crime is there is something like 90 to 95% that will not take any action. They will buy this program or another one.. go on forums and whine about it... but at the end ... do sweet piss all about applying new concepts to further their business.
They don't take action. They don't test. They spend 1000s on ebooks and programs, they read them, think they know it all... and at the end of the day... nothing gets done.
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Here Here, couldn't agree more. He did the exact same thing with 4 Tier Annihilation, his previous product, basically buy from Alibaba.com and sell it on ebay.

Isn't that what 99% of IMers do, re-write stuff and sell to newcomers. The authors don't give a f#$k.

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Here Here, couldn't agree more. He did the exact same thing with 4 Tier Annihilation, his previous product, basically buy from Alibaba.com and sell it on ebay.

Isn't that what 99% of IMers do, re-write stuff and sell to newcomers. The authors don't give a f#.

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I think Mika was actually being postive about AP.

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Actually that's something I was amazed about as well, I even commented on that very issue to them, seems crazy to me, not even the most basic of protection. Braver than me, our download page is locked inside a members area with IP protected logins.

They basically didn't want to spend time on CS for lost passwords etc , I can see their point but still, risky way to go about it.
Try typing site:affiliatepayload.com into Google!
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Try typing site:affiliatepayload.com into Google!
The download page doesn't appear for me on that search term, I'm hoping they at least had the sense to add "no spider" to the download page.

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I see the DL page and the upsell vids too...weird
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Man, they must be out of their minds as I said earlier, that is really sloppy and it's going to be taking money from them and their affiliates, crazy.

All they had to do was add the "nospider" code to their download page and at least Google wouldn't see it, less than 5 minutes work.

Feel sorry for all those PPC'ers wasting time with it.

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Simon, good thoughts. I already skyped alex about that one.

But... about the product...

I was playing with it a few minutes ago and watched a module I'd skipped before.

The one on Facebook.

Um... damn!

I had originally ignored it just because I HATE all that junk with the social networks, but what he did in that video floored me.

I'm not kidding... how much would it cost to make one of those Apps? $100? Less? Then hit up a few friends and let the damn thing spread.

3 months later you've got yourself a $6,000,000 application!

For those who are going to buy: if you do this think only of one thing...

LINK BAIT!!!

Nuff said.

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Hello I was curious on the sales page there is mention of a "free traffic free money" module I cant seem to find it, I am trying to make some money to be able to do all the other techniques mentioned, but I can't seem to put together all the techniques to make free money with free traffic.
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I think what you're looking for is SEO + CPA stuff. Just grab Google rankings and drive traffic through your links which lead to CPA networks. Have your people join programs that pay for free sign ups rather than % of purchases.

In other words... free traffic = free money

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Old 08-31-2008, 05:08 PM   #48
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Simon, good thoughts. I already skyped alex about that one.

But... about the product...

I was playing with it a few minutes ago and watched a module I'd skipped before.

The one on Facebook.

Um... damn! .
Yeah, agreed, and for sure, if your experienced in CPA this technique doesn't exactly qualify as a revelation but for nubs like me to CPA it was a real lightbulb moment.

If I hadn't signed up to 1 on 1 CPA coaching with Luke, my bet is this is one of the first techniques I would have considered, one of the most interesting concepts in the program.

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Old 08-31-2008, 05:28 PM   #49
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Yeah, agreed, and for sure, if your experienced in CPA this technique doesn't exactly qualify as a revelation but for nubs like me to CPA it was a real lightbulb moment.

If I hadn't signed up to 1 on 1 CPA coaching with Luke, my bet is this is one of the first techniques I would have considered, one of the most interesting concepts in the program.
And noob to CPA I am! Spent most of my time using various "jackhammer" style list building and never really stopped to think about the small... oh yea... "I can get paid just to drive traffic" stuff

I like it. What's really cool is the program he mentions works not just with Facebook but with MySpace, YouTube and a host of others.

This is one of those "shocker" moments where something so stupidly simple can make people a whole wad of cash with very little investment and/or time.

The "Media buying" thing wasn't bad either.

Being that I come from a very different place when somebody says "buy media" I wasn't ready for it. The thing on AdBright was solid as well IF people take the time to use it correctly. (And there in lies the rub...)

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IF people take the time to use it correctly. (And there in lies the rub...)
You can lead a horse to water ....

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