SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet?

Alessandro Brunelli · 11-01-2011, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keven brown

Its just a way to make people fool. Offering SEO courses and charging people for it while there is tons of free information available. It's much better to attend a good SEO conference like SES and SMX.

I agree, but this course can cut time and from the webinar I attended I could see the two guys are really good, decent marketers, teaching very well what they know. So if one feels like needing a guidance and cut time, 2x $97 is not too much; I would go for the course. But If you have time for your own research, then you don't need this course as there is plenty of stuff for free through Google. Again, nothing is free, you either spend on money or time...

Alessandro Brunelli · 11-01-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by savyeman

Hi neil,

Don't get me wrong? I'm not saying that you can't make money with affiliate marketing and artificially link building, you can and can rank using these methods, right now.

The reasons I say affiliate marketing and SEO is dead is no one knows how much longer our sites have in the search engines when we do rank. We are at Google's mercy and this risk factor makes it a bad idea.

I guess you can take an out going all out approach make as much money as you can while you can. But don't depend on this for a consistent sustainable business.

Because of the risk factor of not knowing when or if another Google update is going to affect my site makes it not worth the effort.

I think there is still some time left. But not much longer.

I tend to agree with you. I can't say I am really an expert in SEO, but I have been following the topic for quite a bit now and guess what, the more I see how Google is changing the more I surprise myself thinking that, hey, SEO isn't necessary anymore, simply write something really from your own thinking, something useful and original and there you are, Google will love your site. This is what Google is trying to do: find decent sites it can point to. Now, probably some SEO is still useful. How, for instance, can people searching for "weight loss tips" find your site if you use, as an extreme, non-English words. But probably, right now Google has gone so far that you don't need to use "weight loss tips" 5 times in a 800 words articles and probably not even once neither. You can simply write some good text, add a video or two, add an image or two, link to another good site, in short, write a decent article on how to loose weight and you have done your day. Which means, it will now take some time, months probably, until you get some honest traffic while you keep up your good, diligent work.
Anybody can confirm that SEO is till good for A LONG span of time? I would love to hear the feedback of more experienced marketers. A year ago, I read of a guy who started to write about Photoshop tips (a very difficult keyword) WITHOUT thinking of SEO at all, and who ranked very well in the first page after twelve months....He simply wrote what he was REALLY interested about....

David Lamb · 11-02-2011, 12:17 PM

The price has gone up to $297. That's ridiculous.

You can outsource a lot of unique, quality content for that price and be much farther ahead.

squeezecpa · 11-02-2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by savyeman

Don't buy SEO EXPERT ACADEMY - NOT WORTH IT-

My name is Claude. I hardly ever post on the warrior forum but I'm a member and I read other people's post often.

I had to post about this SEO product. I have been reading SEOMOZ and other good SEO websites searchengineland and others.

I bought the course and I have gone through it. I learn nothing really new. I'm going to ask for a refund.

Don' t buy the course. I completely agree with some of the post on here it's not worth it.

The strategies are what we all know, old and outdated, really don't work that well anymore, your sites will not last in the serps, if you manage to rank for a good volume keyword guess what you will lose your site.

-Google has human reviewers all they have to do is say your site is Spam and your gone immediately

SEO Expert Academy talks about strategies like:

Blog networks - (Some are dead like Linkvana and others are on their way, like Build my Rank, AMA, SEOLinkvine, Unique Article Wizzard, Traffic Kaboom just to name a few. These sites are crap, garbage no good, as in don't waste your time or your money)
Blog Comments - (Common this is as good as dead)
Forum Links (Wow your site will not last, maybe not at first but eventually)
Article Marketing (Put articles on Ezines and Go articles, we all know article marketing sites are good as gone - not worth the effort maybe for branding that's about it)
Press Releases - (Free press releases are not valuable links - You need paid press releases and they are not cheap)
Software Directory (They have been devalued)
Directory Submission (We all know They have been devalued - only paid ones are worth the effort but it will cost you)

Matt and Terry luck out they were able to make a lot of money but really SEO in Google is not the same. Google knows what's going on, obviously

If your strategy is to do SEO on your sites affiliate marketing, this strategy is as good as dead, don't waste your time SEO takes to long.

I'm not trying to discourage anyone. I know from experience because I have done it. I'm trying to be honest and help someone out.

SEO and affiliate marketing post panda is DEAD, DEAD I tell you

(Well, there's ways around anything but it's not a good strategy anymore)

Any strategy that were done post panda no longer work well, if they do work they will not last. I guarantee you.

Ask me how I know?

Haven't you heard of marketers whose businesses died over night since Panda. I have.

We need to do SEO like SEOMOZ teaches it, get your links naturally over time and know that it may take a couple years to rank your site.

Find ways to get people to link to you and what ever keyword you go for make sure you offer what that keyword is talking about.

We need to start thinking about having sites that offer what the searcher is looking for instead of being an affiliate for a physical product

What don't you be a physical product store e-commerce and build your links naturally like SEOMOZ talks about, use offer widgets on your site, find other creative ways, do a give away to build links and there are many other things you can do. Read SEOMOZ

and focus on keywords that relate to your e-commerce store and offer reviews on your site

And instead of being an affiliate for an ebook write your own ebook, become a service site offering real services.

You need to think in terms of a real business you can offer people a service online they really need and will market itself online if you're part of the right forums, or where your customers can help you build links.

Man this is the way to go.

The days of trying to game Google are dead and honestly not worth the time. I don't know about you my time is worth something. I can't afford to waste it.

Don't waste your time with these marketers who are trying to game Google.

The truth is you can't game Google ANYMORE and it's users people are aware what's going on. If you do manage to game Google, guess what it won't be for long.

People are annoyed by affiliates who have pages ranking for something that has nothing to do with their search.

So in conclusion do what I suggested:

Don't buy SEO EXPERT ACADEMY save your money for a business plan

Come up with real idea and a real business online and you will succeed.

Affiliate marketing SEO is DEAD
Affiliate marketing paid traffic is not DEAD

YAWN!!!!!

Recite the following lines and soon you will believe it to be true.

Seo is dead! Affiliate Marketing is dead! Seo is dead! Affiliate Marketing is dead!

You havent stated anything new... We all know building links should be done naturally with quality in mind...., Marketers should think strategically...

I think you need to be more responsible with your posts. You've just dismissed a whole bunch of traditional link building methods in one post.

Some of those methods work for me, post panda...

If affiliate marketing and seo is dead then why am I seeing affiliate sites ranking highly post panda in various niches i operate in?

Making dramatic statements like, Affiliate Marketing is dead is just plain irresponsible, unhelpful and most importantly: UNTRUE!.

How many people on this forum make their income by driving traffic via the search engines? I am sure I can count them on more than one hand.

Claude, you cannot guarantee anything.

I hope people don't take heed to what this guy talks about and come to more evidenced conclusions instead.

Clint Butler · 11-08-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by squeezecpa

YAWN!!!!!

Recite the following lines and soon you will believe it to be true.

Seo is dead! Affiliate Marketing is dead! Seo is dead! Affiliate Marketing is dead!

You havent stated anything new... We all know building links should be done naturally with quality in mind...., Marketers should think strategically...

I think you need to be more responsible with your posts. You've just dismissed a whole bunch of traditional link building methods in one post.

Some of those methods work for me, post panda...

If affiliate marketing and seo is dead then why am I seeing affiliate sites ranking highly post panda in various niches i operate in?

Making dramatic statements like, Affiliate Marketing is dead is just plain irresponsible, unhelpful and most importantly: UNTRUE!.

How many people on this forum make their income by driving traffic via the search engines? I am sure I can count them on more than one hand.

Claude, you cannot guarantee anything.

I hope people don't take heed to what this guy talks about and come to more evidenced conclusions instead.

Quit telling him that his statements are untrue. The more people that believe it, the easier it is for us that know better to make good money doing it.

Regards,
Clint

ExploringInfinity · 11-09-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Poc

Well, there's also another very similar course that costs $67 I believe.

It is not that advanced, but it really covers everything what you need to know about seo and it is called Unstoppable Affiliate by Andrew Hansen.

The course is really good and they cover a little bit more stuff about keyword research, but a little bit less about backlinking methods.

I have both courses and I love both of them

The two of them are my two favorite courses ever, actually. Between the two of them you really can't go wrong.

I've been extremely happy with both purchases, unlike most of the other crap courses out there, these guys are the real deal.

milla04 · 11-09-2011, 03:51 AM

Everyone who has given thumbs up for Matt, I agree with that. Unfortunately this review is not based on Matt, it is a product review section. I personally feel n believe anyone can get the materials within this course much cheaper or spend more and get more information. So, based on that and "price" I wouldn't recommend this. I personally find it tough nowadays to see honest reviews. "just thinking out loud."

JamestheJust on Elance · 11-15-2011, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeezecpa

YAWN!!!!!

Recite the following lines and soon you will believe it to be true.

Seo is dead! Affiliate Marketing is dead! Seo is dead! Affiliate Marketing is dead!

You havent stated anything new... We all know building links should be done naturally with quality in mind...., Marketers should think strategically...

I think you need to be more responsible with your posts. You've just dismissed a whole bunch of traditional link building methods in one post.

Some of those methods work for me, post panda...

If affiliate marketing and seo is dead then why am I seeing affiliate sites ranking highly post panda in various niches i operate in?

Yeah, it's pretty funny...someone earlier said they'd like someone more experienced to confirm SEO still works post-Panda...

er...

It works.

A lot of these funny discussions would actually get some place if more people quit "wondering" about SEO and other traffic-gen and simply put their money where their mouth is.

I don't mean, "Buy this or that course," I mean quit reading theories in the forums and start taking some action.

All this "SEO is dead post-Panda" mumbo-jumbo is as helpful as shooting your partner's foot in a 3-legged footrace.

Test it already - and for the record: Google may not "love" the way people sling links, but their algorithm doesn't seem to mind...

Just sayin'.

Royce Space · 11-16-2011, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JamestheJust on Elance

Yeah, it's pretty funny...someone earlier said they'd like someone more experienced to confirm SEO still works post-Panda...

er...

It works.

A lot of these funny discussions would actually get some place if more people quit "wondering" about SEO and other traffic-gen and simply put their money where their mouth is.

I don't mean, "Buy this or that course," I mean quit reading theories in the forums and start taking some action.

All this "SEO is dead post-Panda" mumbo-jumbo is as helpful as shooting your partner's foot in a 3-legged footrace.

Test it already - and for the record: Google may not "love" the way people sling links, but their algorithm doesn't seem to mind...

Just sayin'.

Exactly! I really hate people flood wrong information in the forum. Instead of helping people, they will pull you down. Seriously, crab mentality in this forum do happen.

ArdJan · 12-03-2011, 03:19 AM

I bought it for the old price of 2 x 97$ and it's well worth the money.
Yes I know almost all information is available on the net for free, but in the academy it's organized in a e-learning environment. This means no distractions and it's presented in a consistent format.

Because all information is gathered in one place you can go through it very efficiently. If you want to gather all this information yourself by researching on forums/blogs/etc it AND verify that it works, it will take 10 times the time&effort. So if want to use your time efficiently, I would go for EA. I saw EA as an investment in myself, it's not a Shiny Object for quick profits.

If you follow through the complete Academy you'll know more than 99% of all people doing IM, giving you a big advantage.

Btw SEO is only one part of your marketing plan, I wouldn't bet on only one horse.

neil_patmore · 12-03-2011, 01:05 PM

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It is not that advanced, but it really covers everything what you need to know about seo and it is called Unstoppable Affiliate by Andrew Hansen.

The course is really good and they cover a little bit more stuff about keyword research, but a little bit less about backlinking methods.

That would be because SEO Academy is an SEO course, whereas Unstoppable Affiliate is an Affiliate course. The clues are in the titles! :-)

joeho · 12-05-2011, 06:23 AM

i bought the course is great.Worth every cents! It really teach you from newbie to expert level seo.

poem · 12-05-2011, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Poc

Well, there's also another very similar course that costs $67 I believe.

It is not that advanced, but it really covers everything what you need to know about seo and it is called Unstoppable Affiliate by Andrew Hansen.

The course is really good and they cover a little bit more stuff about keyword research, but a little bit less about backlinking methods.

I have both courses and I love both of them

I have both courses. Both have taught very good stuff in their course. But if you are looking at SEO, I will suggest you go for the SEO Expert Academy. I doubt anyone really gone through the entire stack of videos (I have not). But you don't need to. You just have to focus a couple of techniques at a time and you can see improvement in your results.

I am not new to SEO but the academy has given me new ideas. There are some warriors in the thread that feel it is a total waste of money. I beg to differ. Learn the techniques and use it wisely, and apply it to the current Panda context. That is the key thing.

Nazbir.Bd · 12-08-2011, 04:54 PM

As few have been saying SEO is dead, I do not agree. Saying "SEO is dead" is like saying "Grapes are sour".
IMO SEO Expert Academy is a decent course for those who are comparatively new in SEO, but the price is quite high as for the content of the course.

Regards
Nazbir

joseph7384 · 12-08-2011, 07:46 PM

I really enjoyed the course but unfortunately two of the so called secret resources did not yield a single backlink in 3 weeks time, Tumblr and Google forums which they claim get indexed very fast without any of your own efforts.

neil_patmore · 12-09-2011, 12:53 AM

The prelaunch tumblr trick went no follow shortly after the video. Not really worth the effort now!

smilika · 12-16-2011, 11:05 PM

I seen it with a friend. It does not really deliver all that I expected from it, but it is still a nice all around look at link building that did give me a few extra ideas.

I wouldn't spend that much money on it though.

seanybyrne · 12-21-2011, 05:59 AM

hi guys..

Do you have to pay 97 x 2... or is this a recurring payment each month now???

Does anyone have experience with that?

Thanks

Sean

tylerjaysen · 12-21-2011, 12:09 PM

Yes I bought it and love the program. Over 90 videos and there is a ton of stuff that they talk about that goes above and beyond the typical SEO onpage offpage, meta tags bs. There is a sample video...a thread already on here....about getting a pr 7 link via tumblr....might be done to death by now...but nontheless very cool stuff that is not spammy.

The guys who developed the course are very legit in the SEO world and have a ton of experience. The tricks they teach you are all white hat and will not get your punished by google. It's a little pricey for a newbie...but well worth the money.

Bottom line is that if you listen to what they teach you in the course,,,then your sites will be better of than most of the other junk that is out in the online space. Essentially they show you how to set up your pages the right way from the outset.

JackPowers · 12-21-2011, 06:53 PM

[QUOTE=savyeman;4952193
We need to do SEO like SEOMOZ teaches it, get your links naturally over time and know that it may take a couple years to rank your site.[/QUOTE]

Rand Fishkin is all talk and little action. His SEO agency was on the verge of going bankrupt before he began blogging and selling software. He doesn't even do any SEO for clients anymore.

The methods they generally advocate are just poor ways of doing linkbuilding. You won't get anywhere with 'create good content and they will come'. Everyone knows that high level SEO is all about how big your linkbuying budget is, that is the harsh truth. Online casinos shell out millions buying links.

Linkbuilding is not that different post-Panda, vary your anchor text, don't use spam links directly, in content links, keep the links in place, but most importantly build your next affiliate sites for usability and low bounce rates.

808glass · 12-22-2011, 01:24 AM

@Jack... I hear you. It's 2 different models of SEO you're comparing, one is against google's policy and one isn't. Rand caters to the vast majority of businesses who want to play by the rules or are required to corporate legal departments, it's the darker hat SEO's on these forums and the thousands you've never heard of that work at the actual fringes of the Search Engine universe. I think the optimum position for a successful SEO career is somewhere in the middle. Go hang out with Google during the day, but stay up partying all night with your black hat on.

kfinney1 · 12-23-2011, 09:28 AM

I bought the course as well when it came out and I must say it is quite comprehensive! If you go through all the videos there are HOURS and HOURS worth of them so it may take you some time. I think it's a worth while investment because they offer not only different strategies for link building but they also offer a step by step action plan to setup your site and start link building on a week by week basis. It is truly a SEO filled course! Not only that but since i've joined they've added new videos and they have also updated the plan due to one of the software programs mentioned in it changing the way they work! Yes, they mention buying software to help you but you don't have to pay for it if you don't want to. Also, they tend to focus on programs that have a one time charge rather than those you have to pay for monthly. There is a lot of information in there and you are bound to learn something new or a new spin on an old technique.

11-02-2011, 12:17 PM	#53
David Lamb Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 64 Thanks: 21 Thanked 21 Times in 12 Posts	Re: SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet? The price has gone up to $297. That's ridiculous. You can outsource a lot of unique, quality content for that price and be much farther ahead.

11-09-2011, 03:51 AM	#57
milla04 Darren Miller - UK War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: UK, London Posts: 128 Thanks: 22 Thanked 29 Times in 24 Posts	Re: SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet? Everyone who has given thumbs up for Matt, I agree with that. Unfortunately this review is not based on Matt, it is a product review section. I personally feel n believe anyone can get the materials within this course much cheaper or spend more and get more information. So, based on that and "price" I wouldn't recommend this. I personally find it tough nowadays to see honest reviews. "just thinking out loud."

12-03-2011, 03:19 AM	#60
ArdJan Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Holland Posts: 16 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet? I bought it for the old price of 2 x 97$ and it's well worth the money. Yes I know almost all information is available on the net for free, but in the academy it's organized in a e-learning environment. This means no distractions and it's presented in a consistent format. Because all information is gathered in one place you can go through it very efficiently. If you want to gather all this information yourself by researching on forums/blogs/etc it AND verify that it works, it will take 10 times the time&effort. So if want to use your time efficiently, I would go for EA. I saw EA as an investment in myself, it's not a Shiny Object for quick profits. If you follow through the complete Academy you'll know more than 99% of all people doing IM, giving you a big advantage. Btw SEO is only one part of your marketing plan, I wouldn't bet on only one horse.

12-05-2011, 06:23 AM	#62
joeho SEO Alchemists War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: A Sunny island Posts: 156 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet? i bought the course is great.Worth every cents! It really teach you from newbie to expert level seo.

12-08-2011, 04:54 PM	#64
Nazbir.Bd Deshi Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 88 Thanks: 32 Thanked 13 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet? As few have been saying SEO is dead, I do not agree. Saying "SEO is dead" is like saying "Grapes are sour". IMO SEO Expert Academy is a decent course for those who are comparatively new in SEO, but the price is quite high as for the content of the course. Regards Nazbir

12-08-2011, 07:46 PM	#65
joseph7384 Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: chicago Posts: 633 Thanks: 45 Thanked 207 Times in 148 Posts	Re: SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet? I really enjoyed the course but unfortunately two of the so called secret resources did not yield a single backlink in 3 weeks time, Tumblr and Google forums which they claim get indexed very fast without any of your own efforts.

12-09-2011, 12:53 AM	#66
neil_patmore HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: UK Posts: 276 Thanks: 28 Thanked 61 Times in 34 Posts	Re: SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet? The prelaunch tumblr trick went no follow shortly after the video. Not really worth the effort now!

12-16-2011, 11:05 PM	#67
smilika Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 34 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Contact Info	Re: SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet? I seen it with a friend. It does not really deliver all that I expected from it, but it is still a nice all around look at link building that did give me a few extra ideas. I wouldn't spend that much money on it though.

12-21-2011, 05:59 AM	#68
seanybyrne HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 128 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet? hi guys.. Do you have to pay 97 x 2... or is this a recurring payment each month now??? Does anyone have experience with that? Thanks Sean

12-21-2011, 12:09 PM	#69
tylerjaysen HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 204 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts	Re: SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet? Yes I bought it and love the program. Over 90 videos and there is a ton of stuff that they talk about that goes above and beyond the typical SEO onpage offpage, meta tags bs. There is a sample video...a thread already on here....about getting a pr 7 link via tumblr....might be done to death by now...but nontheless very cool stuff that is not spammy. The guys who developed the course are very legit in the SEO world and have a ton of experience. The tricks they teach you are all white hat and will not get your punished by google. It's a little pricey for a newbie...but well worth the money. Bottom line is that if you listen to what they teach you in the course,,,then your sites will be better of than most of the other junk that is out in the online space. Essentially they show you how to set up your pages the right way from the outset.

12-21-2011, 06:53 PM	#70
JackPowers Freeman War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 740 Thanks: 85 Thanked 99 Times in 74 Posts	Re: SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet? [QUOTE=savyeman;4952193 We need to do SEO like SEOMOZ teaches it, get your links naturally over time and know that it may take a couple years to rank your site.[/QUOTE] Rand Fishkin is all talk and little action. His SEO agency was on the verge of going bankrupt before he began blogging and selling software. He doesn't even do any SEO for clients anymore. The methods they generally advocate are just poor ways of doing linkbuilding. You won't get anywhere with 'create good content and they will come'. Everyone knows that high level SEO is all about how big your linkbuying budget is, that is the harsh truth. Online casinos shell out millions buying links. Linkbuilding is not that different post-Panda, vary your anchor text, don't use spam links directly, in content links, keep the links in place, but most importantly build your next affiliate sites for usability and low bounce rates.

12-22-2011, 01:24 AM	#71
808glass Everyday I'm Hustlin War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 101 Thanks: 6 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet? @Jack... I hear you. It's 2 different models of SEO you're comparing, one is against google's policy and one isn't. Rand caters to the vast majority of businesses who want to play by the rules or are required to corporate legal departments, it's the darker hat SEO's on these forums and the thousands you've never heard of that work at the actual fringes of the Search Engine universe. I think the optimum position for a successful SEO career is somewhere in the middle. Go hang out with Google during the day, but stay up partying all night with your black hat on.

12-23-2011, 09:28 AM	#72
kfinney1 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 30 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: SEO Expert Academy, Anyone tried it yet? I bought the course as well when it came out and I must say it is quite comprehensive! If you go through all the videos there are HOURS and HOURS worth of them so it may take you some time. I think it's a worth while investment because they offer not only different strategies for link building but they also offer a step by step action plan to setup your site and start link building on a week by week basis. It is truly a SEO filled course! Not only that but since i've joined they've added new videos and they have also updated the plan due to one of the software programs mentioned in it changing the way they work! Yes, they mention buying software to help you but you don't have to pay for it if you don't want to. Also, they tend to focus on programs that have a one time charge rather than those you have to pay for monthly. There is a lot of information in there and you are bound to learn something new or a new spin on an old technique.