Wizardofwisdom

I was just wondering if anyone's seen, used or has any informed opinion about Painless Traffic - which I'm receiving some promotional emails about.

It looks as though it's been around a couple of months at least, but I can't find a single review here on WF or indeed elsewhere, (which I'd trust less if at all anyway).

The sales page says and shows that this is a piece of software that drives traffic to any URL in a range of topic areas and all you have to do is paste in the link and tell it what topic headings to look for and click "submit."

What I most want to know, (apart from "does it work?"), is where does the traffic come from? This really does look like a magic bullet and as such reeks of "too good to be true" snake oil.

So if anyone's willing to divulge the truth I'd be fascinated, thrilled and grateful.

Anyone...??

ras33

So I just purchased it and I skip through the one time upsell which is either 197 dollars one time fee or 40 dollars per month.

Anyways the basic package lets you submit 2 urls. After submitting both of my sites that are promoting clickbank products I got this message:

Add New URL: (2 of 2 URL slots taken)
ALL AVAILABLE SLOTS TAKEN. DELETE AN EXISTING URL TO INSERT A NEW URL
So now I wrote an email support to see what happens next. There is no pdf or video explaining what happens next. I will wait for a response from Bill McRea to see what he says. So far I really like the simplicity of this system and if I do manage to make a few sales then I am really going to start promoting it. But time will tell. I will check my clickbank account to see if I see anything other than a whole bunch of 0000'sss in my account, pitiful, lol.


If anyone else has purchased and know a bit better than me please let me know.

This is an honest review and as you can see there are no affiliate links here.

Bigbucks

I bought this ($39) under the impression you could add as many ULR's as you want but since I logged in I now realise its only 2 (unless you delete the first 2 you put in?!....)

I will check the traffic on these 2 sites for the next week, but I needed something to help get traffic for 200 sites!

Legend Dude

Yeah, I purchased as well. Got the 20 traffic sources and it started of good with 173 hits to my links from the first day but over the last 4 days, the traffic has been declining steadily and since Friday, I've only gotten 5 hits. There is a little discrepancy between the hits recorded on the members site and the hits recorded in Clickbank and CPA network (less actually hops and clicks than recorded on the members area). I asked support about it and they said I should check with Clickbank and MaxBounty respectively as it's on their side. Still haven't gotten any conversions, but I hope it will get better as the launch date approaches.

ras33

Ok well I wrote a small review a few days ago but I see Mick Moore has not yet responded back. Maybe he was busy because of the holidays this weekend.

Anyways just an update on the hits to both of my sites. I say both of my sites because if you buy the basic package for 49 dollars you only allowed to drive traffic to 2 url's.

This is this one I am trying to see what kind of results I will get with this new software from Mick Moore and Bill McRea.

So far today is Nov. 27th and my first site has 22 hits and my second site has 16 hits. So far no conversions as my clickbank account has nothing but zero's 0'sss... Anyways I will not give up on this software and will try it and if is getting close to the 60 days clickbank warranty and I am not getting any conversion then I will ask for a refund.

Good news few hits I Guess

Bad news no coversions= no money

World Marketing

I purchased this product early also but I bought the upsell. I had an issue with submitting my URL's because of a problem with the software but support answered me right back and fixed my problem almost immediately! So far I really like this product I am starting to get good traffic to my sites and links (20+ hits on more than 5 URL's).

I purchased this on the 23rd as well and still have no conversions but I really like how simplified this product is. I will check back soon to let you know my results.

Legend Dude

@tampaprogrammer: Can you tell me what happened to my traffic? I've attached the picture below.

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Gary Pettit

Hmmm...yeah this is what worries me. Looks like out of 5 days, you only received a small amount of traffic 1 day. Did you make any sales over the course of the week?

tampaprogrammer

Hi Legend,
As I mentioned in a previous post, I feared something like this would happen in the beginning.

You see, you must have been one of the very first buyers of the system so naturally, your URLs had a much higher chance of getting rotated and thus, got a large amount of traffic early on. We tried to throttle it the best we could so it would stay more steady long term but as you noticed, you got an initial spike in hits.

Now that the system has matured, it has dropped to a more consistent amount of traffic, typically 10 to 100 hits per day is what I am seeing across the board.

Bill is ramping up his delivery system and transferring other traffic streams he has built up over the years toward this system. How long this takes maybe be a few days to a few weeks.

ras33

I just deleted one of my url because it was a wp blog that then redirected to the cb product. Now I just chosed a clickbank product and just put the affiliate hoplink. Lets see what happens now. If I see even one sale I will change my other url also.

I hoep this thing works.

Well today is supposedly the official launch day. I had the sofware already for 6 days and no sales yet. Let see if the traffic increases after today.

johnweyer

This is all very intriging. Can anybody explain where this traffic comes from? For $20 per url it might as well be ppc on adwords or 7search or such. Ooooh, maybe thats it. Traffic source? Anyone?

tampaprogrammer

Hi John,
While you may think $20 per url is ALOT, remember, this is for lifetime, not per month or XX clicks/leads for that $20.

You are also free to swap out your url with something else anytime you wish just in case the offer you are promoting is performing poorly.

The traffic comes from embedded links with articles that Bill & Mick's writers are submitting all over the place, whether they be in article submission sites or comments on blogs or even the blog post themselves. As of this writing, I know they have well over 30,000 (maybe upwards of 100k?) of these articles plastered all over the net in all categories. These have taken several years to submit and the links that are in them now redirect to all of your urls.

Studies have shown there is a much higher clickthrough rate when a link on a relative topic is embedded naturally within a sentence structure as a view reads on the topic. They tend to want to "dig deeper" so to speak to discover what they are referring to. That "link" they click will rotate YOUR url as long as it is in the topic category that the article is about.

Good luck!
Rod

ayushgupta

I don't think these offers can attract anybody. How can somebody relay on fake traffic? I mean traffic from Google should be preferred than refer traffic.

tampaprogrammer

Of course Google traffic is the best and that is why you pay 20cents to $20 per CLICK with them.
(or kick and claw your way to the top of the search engines...lol)

This is not fake traffic, I just explained where the traffic comes from.

Hey if you got the deep pockets to campaign with Google Adwords only, GO FOR IT! Or you can work with Google, Facebook, Yahoo, other CPA/CPC/PPV type of venues and systems like this.

It all depends on how much money you have to risk upfront on hopefully a positive ROI.

pearsonbrown

MODERATOR

This forum is for HONEST REVIEWS by Warriors who have used the product. Please take any future questions to tampaprogrammer to PM.

Thanks.

Pearson

tampaprogrammer

Sorry, I won't post here any longer...

take care

johnweyer

@tampaprogrammer - Thanks for clearing that up
@pearsonbrown - My question was directed to anyone who had used the product, really just restating the OPs queery. Didn't mean to sidetrack the thread. sorry

With that said, this doesn't seem to be the usual drek which is peddled online. I will post an honest review shortly.

* shortly meaning 5-7 days.

pearsonbrown

No harm done. It seems to me that sales pages are getting less and less informative. So I have been allowing more product related questions in this forum. But in other threads that has sometimes turned into the product owner posting blatant sales plugs in the thread. So I am being extra cautious now ;-)

Pearson

ras33

Well today is Dec 1 2011 and I have 23 hits to my first url and 38 to my second url. So far no conversions.

I am using the top products recommende by Bill McRea and Mr. Moore from an email they sent me from support.

I sitll have no conversions.

You know what I really hate though? Is those freaking Huuuge red and yellow letters in the sales page that claim this:

"New Traffic Software Creates Huge Traffic Streams...Producing
$14,173.95 in less than 48 hours"

What a bunch of belony. Just go to their website painlesstraffic dot com and see for yourself the huge Headline underneath the video.

I purchased this on November 23rd. Hmmm...Lets do the math. It has been 8 days 8dx24hrs= 192 hours.

So is this software created $14,173.95 in just 48 hours for them, how is the world is it posssible that I, who has had this software running for more than 192 hours with the top clickbank product that Mr. McRea and Mr. Moore recommended me to use, haven't made not even one penny online. I check that my urls are working correctly by going to the clickbank checkout order form and yes my affiliate id is on the bottom, so that takes care of that.

So why am I not making any money when supposedly is making thousands for them in just 48 hours?

I have no clue whatsoever.

tampaprogrammer

I've never been a fan of those headlines either yet almost every friggin sales page has them...grrrr

From my perspective, if ANY of these offers (not just Painless) produced me $14k in 48 hours, I would NOT be telling anyone...That would be my dirty little secret...lol

Somewhere along the line, some "sales pitch" started like that, got GREAT response from the masses and now all "sales pitches" feel they HAVE to say stuff like that because they have tested with just say realistic dollars and no one is interested.

Huh? Everyone wants to get lied to or they don't respond? I just don't get this industry sometimes...

I would rather be transparent and honest and REALISTIC but that is not what viewers want to see. They want to see "get rich overnight" type of offers and then get upset when it obviously doesn't pan out. <slaps head>

Miguelito203

Why not just get a refund and learn to do things the right way rather than relying on "software"?

Joey

Ryan Sterling

I've had it going for over a week now, 59 hits and 57 on the other and yeah, no sales.

Where's my $14,173.95? I would actually be happy with 1 sale a week.

ras33

Tyan I feel your Pain man, lol.

I think this is why is call Painless Traffic, because is painless for them since they are the ones making money from us as a vendor and not as affiliates

This sucks.

I also got hits and no conversion!

tampaprogrammer

They just hired another slew of writers to ramp up the articles being submitted. How long will it take for an increase in traffic from today's/tomorrow's efforts? I don't know, a few days, a few weeks?

Anyway, expecting 1 sale per 100 hits seems a little demanding. Do you get 1 sale per 100 clicks from Google AdWords?

Again, it's not just about "sales", you can also be list building using this.

Oh, and did I mention (again) that this is "for life" not for a month or two.
But hey, you can always get a refund if you aren't satisfied. It just blows my mind that with all the areas around here on how to achieve traffic, here is one that you pay for ONE TIME and can keep it as a PERMANENT tool in your traffic attaining pursuits while concentrating on other traffic streams, split testing of products, squeeze pages, etc.

You'll always have this product to send you a few hundred hits per week on whatever idea/product you wish to launch/test now AND in the future.

(I really gotta stop posting here... lol)
Rod

Paul Schlegel

Let's review ONE more time. The BIG HEADLINE on the sales page is:
$14,173.95 in 48 hours.


Sure, people shouldn't expect that. And I hear that YOU don't agree with claims like that. But I can't see why people don't have the right to complain that the product does NOTHING like what it says it does.

To me, that's a significant part of a review. What does the product CLAIM to do. What does it ACTUALLY do. So some of the reviews have come in the form of complaints about the huge mismatch between the promise and the results (especially the ones where they even promoted the product creators' recommended products) - that's a legitimate review piece. Period.

ras33

Mr Moderator:

You are absolutely correct! I and others in here have the right to complaint because this product creators don't even come here to answer our questions and concerns.

Some of us have regular jobs that we have to wake up early and earn a living like myself. And some make money from home selling hype up clickbank products like this one I am assuming with such ridiculous claims.

If they made $14000 dollars with this software in under 48 hours, why would they share it? Why they just don't keep it a secret and run multiple campaigns on it. They would be super rich!!

They are only making money as a vendor but not as an affiliate!

I wouldn't be complaining if I had at least 0.000000001% conversion but all I see in a bunch of zero's on my CB account and I am using the hottest most recommended product they told me to choose. But maybe they lied to me.

Instead they have their programmer come in here and answer everyone's question. He is a programmer. He should be programming the software, hellooo? lol

Anyways my hits are going up. So at least I know is working. I also check my awstats on my cpanel for both of my urls and I am getting a few daily hits to both of my sites. They are just not converting. I even chosed the two categories they told me to put. So why isn't this working? I have no idea.

Is been 11 days already and nothing!

I have my calendar mark when is almost close to the 60 days CB refund policy and if I don't even see 1 sale then I will ask for a refund.

Maybe they will scam me and purchase a product from my link so I don't ask for a refund and them they will refund their purchased. Some of them are just soooo greedy that they will do anything to get you.

I have 0 and they have millions, yet they still want to rip you off from your little pennies, they want your bank account to be at zero.

Greedy gurus.

lfhair

I just got an email from Bill McCrea about Traffic In Spades.

Is painlesstraffic.com the same as trafficinspades.com ??

From the sales video, they appear to be similar. However, Traffic In Spades charges monthly instead of just a one-time fee.

George Kelly

I think it is the same product, Im not a fan of Bill McCrea's products as they seem to be more hype than anything

World Marketing

I want to be optimistic with this product as my hops and traffic is increasing. But still NO conversions. I have been getting more traffic to my Url's/affiliate links but nothing is converting. I am working on building my list with it right now but if I see bad results I will get a refund when I near day 60.

If I get any sales I will post back here as soon as it happens.

ras33

I'm glad I am not the only one alone in this. I purchased this 11 days ago and not even one sale yet.

Have you had any sign ups to your list World Marketing?

Maybe I am just being impatient. Maybe the sales will come in if I make a wish. haha

I wonder what Mr. Bill McRea and Mr. Moore are doing right now instead of helping us out thier customers. Maybe this secret Painless Traffic in making them thousands as clickbank vendors and they are probably in the beach in Hawaii drinking a Piña Colada. Yeah right:

"New Traffic Software Creates Huge Traffic Streams...Producing
$14,173.95 in less than 48 hours" Yes is call being a clickbank vendor.

How come so many people in here have purchased your product and not even one of has made one sale??

Can you answer that?

I could of used the 49 dollars that I pay for this and got 10 gigs in fiverr plus 1 extra dollar. Maybe that would of converted a few sales.

People always say the money is on the list, but I just don't believe in that anymore as I myself am sick to my stomack all of this message that I am getting from all of this people that I subscribe too. I just started unsubscribing to all of them.

I think what I am going to do is just buy a killer domain name, mask the url to a clickbank product, and then make a awesome killer flyer that will convert like crazy, but 5000 and have someone from craiglist distribute them to the area of my choice.

I'm sure I will get a few conversions like that.

tampaprogrammer

They are actually busy answering customer support, making training videos, etc to better help everyone "long term".

I am also busy implementing some of their new ideas as well. I just drop in here a couple times a day to possibly see if new problems arise from a technical standpoint so I can fix them immediately.

No, Traffic n Spades is not Bill & Micks, its another vendor and they are just promoting it as an affiliate (like any of us would do). He was suppose to send it out to people who did NOT join our site so maybe they would be interested in the other one, not sure if everyone received that email or not.

However, as I have stressed multiple times in this thread, using several of these products, as long as they are sending legit traffic, would have to be a good thing, right?

Again, I am sorry for the misleading headline, I am not the copywriter, just the programmer of course. Its one of those catch 22 things: Hype up the product to catch people's attention or be conservative with the sales pitch and get no one interested <shrugs>. I KNOW this is not the only product that has done this and while I am fairly new to this industry, I have seen my fair share of these lofty claims.

By the way, several members have already purchased an ADDITIONAL 20 pack upgrade (in the member area) after they have been running the initial 2 + 22 upgrade. Apparently, they are getting something out of the traffic to throw down another $197 for more.

Just because the handful of members here have not posted any success, does not mean none of the buyers have had success.

Don't worry Ras, I will crawl back in my cave and program now. You say Bill & Mick won't answer questions but I have answered quite a few but apparently, they weren't good enough so I am sure that their answers would be similar and consequently, not good enough either.

Therefore, we are going to continue to add features, work out bugs, tweak the system so that the members benefit long term. Other than that, nothing more I can convince you of until you get that coveted "sale". Just remember, ONE SALE from a typical CB product will almost pay for the system then you can use it for life. Be sure to keep an eye on that 60 day limit. I wouldn't want you to feel "screwed" by us. Get some traffic for now and you always have that option. To me, that is as much of a guarantee as it gets in this world to "experiment", wouldn't you think?

WE are taking the risk...WE are spending the time to service the customers. All you have to do is try it for awhile and if you aren't satisfied, you get back your money. WE still spent our time, effort and "traffic" on your URLs that we can't get that back.

I hate to sound HARSH but I don't know what else to say. Critique all you want but when you start bashing, yes, it gets personal.

This is NOT like typical CB products where someone buys some software and the owner doesn't have to interact with the buyer again (technically). We are providing a long term SERVICE (not software) that we have to continually monitor, tweak, etc so all of you can benefit. Traffic is never free, as you may well know, so building something like this LONG TERM is an ongoing task for the owners.

Rod

lefty359

Anybody that is getting traffic but no conversions, how about adsense clicks?

Paul Schlegel

I wasn't sure where to post this, but I think it really needs to be seen (no affiliate links or references to me or my site are in it):



It shows the EXACT same income proof screenshots being used for

Micro Niche Profit Formula - Launched November 30, 2010 (Active In ClickBank)
Painless Traffic - Launched December 1, 2011 (Active In Clickbank)

aaaa33030

I purchased the software on October 21, 2011

The most hits I got per day was 12 to each url

Yesterday I got a refund because painless traffic was a waste of money

Of course there were no conversions / sales whatsoever

ras33

Ok Rod. I am sorry if you felt that way. I wasn't bashing the product. But you need to understand that we here are customers and have our own opinions too. We have the right to speak our mind as this is a forum. Forum a place where people share their ideas and thoughts. I will be more kind in words but I will not start saying crazy stuff like this software works because I am seeing no results yet. You said that there are more customers buying the upsell which gives you an additional 20 urls, yes I saw that but I didn't buy it. Is like trying to increase your chances of making money when is not even working with 2 urls. That doesn't make any sense. Also to respond to your asnwer, maybe those people who purchased the 20 url upsell are not posting in here because maybe they don't even know what the warrior forum is. Maybe they were sent an email from their list and purchased the product through that. Not everyone knows about the warrior forum Rod.

Anyways, I'll leave it like that. Maybe next week I'll get 1 conversion and I will come and leave a great review, but until then I am still doubting this software will ever work.

Will just have to wait and see.

tampaprogrammer

Hi Ras,
I think you misunderstood why I said that about other buying extra 20. They already had the 22 slots from the original purchase and now, a week later, bought an additional 20.

My only guess as to why they would lay down more money is because whatever they are promoting is working for them.

My main argument in all of this is traffic takes time. Typical reviews in this forum is based on a piece of software, training video, ebook, etc that you can decide within hours if the information is good, fresh etc. instead of just a rehash from someone else's product.

Traffic is not like that. It is a continual thing that we all need. The 2 main points all of you should consider and/or give honest reviews is:
1. amount of traffic (hits per day/week)
2. quality of traffic (does it convert to sales/signups/email captures...etc)
I welcome your comments about XX hits = X conversions (or lack thereof) so I can push this issue on up to Mick & Bill. If you could also post the categories you are using in here when posting your hits, that would be great.

Those 2 still remain to be seen and like you, I REALLY WANT this traffic to be good and fruitful to everyone. Unfortunately, it may not work for everyone because it depends on what they are promoting and could be wildly successful for others.

But I will stop posting in this thread now because this IS suppose to be about reviews and I am not serving in best interest of this thread. So when you don't see me posting, I am NOT hiding, just wishing to follow the rules here.

Rod

aaaa33030

@ras33

In one of your threads you stated:

Anyways I found something that is making me around 80 to 120 dollars per day on clickbank. Is so deadly easy to use. Is a new product I purchased one week ago call painless traffic. It lets you put for the basic package 2 urls and for the upsell package 10 urls. I have been making on great money with this everyday. All you do is enter your url's in the box. Then choose two categories and hit submit. You are DONE! And now the money is coming right in. No need to build a list or build a landing page or word press site leading to the clickbank product. You just enter the CB affliate hoplink and that is all. You don't even have to use tinyurl or domain 301 redirects.
Just your direct CB affiliate link and you are all ready to go!

Talk about easy money. I just made a 45 dollar sale 10 minutes before writing this post. Anyways sorry about the silly thread I made a while back but I found my solution for now.

Lets see how long this thing will keep working for.

================

Now you're saying you made no sales

================

Which is it: sale or no sale?

rich7797

I wish I had seen this post earlier, I too purchased this product and it did not even start well on the first day I had 11 hits on one url and 7 on the other, that was 4 days ago, I have not had any traffic since.

Question? can someone tell me how I get a refund for this as I am not getting any help from support.

Legend Dude

When you ordered through Clickbank, you received a receipt to your email. Forward the receipt to refunds@clickbank.com and your refund should be processed within 2 business days.

rich7797

Thanks for the help legend dude

Paleochora

I was looking through this thread as I, too, have been getting emails about this product.

I see that many are trying (and failing) to get Clickbank sales with this. Can I ask, are the products you are promoting within the MMO niche? If so you may get a bunch of hops but anyone with any nous will be buying the product through their own affiliate link and not yours.

Are there any people out there directing their traffic to their own squeezepages etc? What are opt-in rates like with this traffic?

johnweyer

OK. Honest review. I purchased basic package on 12/1. I had it up and running with 2 links in about 5 minutes. One link is a direct to the sales page of a clickbank product, very well known in the diet niche. I have had 28 hits, clickthroughs, as my CB stats show. I have my other link going to a page on my blog in the MMO niche. So another link must be clicked to register a clickthrough at CB. That has 24 hits, 1 click. About a 4% CTR. I'm happy with that. So I have 52 hits, 29 CT, and no sales. Should a squeeze page be used with this? OMG, of course. This actually comes with 2 nice squeeze pages with video instructions, a lot of documentation. Actually one looks like a complete sales funnel (3 word press plugins, exit pages, etc.) I haven't gone through it all yet. Obviously adds value overall.
Anyway, with direct linking PPC (btw, that got me lifetime ban from adwords,f them) 1or 2 sales per 100 seems reasonable. (probably that is to ambitious, but it depends on the sales copy and traffic source, preselling, so much more).
I have a few ideas about how to use this traffic by linking to .... never mind. I am going for the 20 more links package. I will keep y'all posted.
So my overall review? I can't wait to be getting 1000's of hits every day. The sales will come.

World Marketing

Still no sales although my hops have been much higher than normal thanks to this software. I have been using it to build my list over the past week and am doing some different tests with the traffic they are sending me. Since I have bought this software a little before its release date I have gained 30 new subscribers. I will post here if/when I start making sales with this.

Gary Pettit

I've had Painless Traffic for about 5 days now and I'd have to say I'm pretty impressed so far. I never buy into the hyped up sales letters but if you can put that aside you'll end up with a pretty solid piece of traffic software that brings consistent traffic.

I also like that the membership area contains many other features such as recommended products, bonus squeeze pages, training videos, seminar section that's coming soon and daily tracking graphs(very awesome). It also incudes a support link but this is so easy there's probably not much need for it....lol

One feature that I would really like to stress is members to take a look at the great FAQ section. So many questions will be answered for you here. This software actually does much more than just sends traffic. It also builds consistent back links to your websites and also builds your mailing lists for you. Of course the sales are nice, but increasing back links and list building are equally important.

I have the additional 20 urls and so far I'm using 10....average about 72 hits a day so far. I've made 1 clickbank sale and 1 paypal sale so far and have had 21 list sign ups. Not bad for 5 days.

If profits continue over time I plan to scale up

Hope this review helps out for some of you who seem to be frustrated.

PS: One last tip is I would suggest purchasing cheap .info domains and forwarding them to your affiliate pages using the keywords of you choice These make much more attractive urls for potential customers to click and also provides link juice

raywarrior1978

Hello Gary. Which product did you convert on? How did you convert the sale? Did your site forwader it to a clickbank product, or this it go to a normal wordpress site than then took the visitor to the CB product?

Which product work for you?

Gary Pettit

My paypal sale was a direct link to my own product and the clickbank sale was a health product...I purchased a .info domain that I fowarded dierctly to the site.


QUOTE=raywarrior1978;5188675]Hello Gary. Which product did you convert on? How did you convert the sale? Did your site forwader it to a clickbank product, or this it go to a normal wordpress site than then took the visitor to the CB product?

Which product work for you?[/QUOTE]

raywarrior1978

Do you think that by purchasing the 22 urls in total versus the basic package that only gives you 2 url, you have a much greater chance at making a sale?

raywarrior1978

Hi Gary. I will like to know your input on this. Thinking about purchasing it.

Thank you

raywarrior1978

Has anyone made any money with this through clickbank using the basic package 2 url versus the 22 url for the upsell.

How are you converting? Are you sending them to a landing page, a squeeze page or so the straight clickbank sales page?

Please share your success, I was thiking about getting it but I see no one is responding. Maybe that's good news or maybe is bad.

Legend Dude

Can anybody tell me what is going on? I'm using the 22 url package and on Clickbank my hops have been decreasing and some have been deleted. What's going on?