Emmanuel Betinis

I just got a response back from Kris:


Hello Emmanuel,

As long as you are a member for 2 months and longer, then yes, all of your links will stay up permanently. Do note, however, that once the membership is canceled, that we discontinue posting any unsent posts. There’s been some misunderstanding by some members recently about this, as they’ll sign up for 2 months, drop a whole load of posts, and then cancel, and think we’ll keep posting away.

Thanks,
Kris

abelacts

Thanks for putting up this thread. Just what I wanted as getting backlinks is really time consuming!

Emmanuel Betinis

Certainly. However, you will not get by with social bookmarking alone.

For an effective SEO campaign, getting a VARIETY of different TYPES of links is a great combination of powerful rankings over time.

This means not ONLY social bookmarking.

This means not ONLY LinkVana.

This means a combination of SEVERAL [TYPES] of links.

AndyBlackSEO

I'm developing a one way link building system right now. It will give you full control over what links you get and where from. I'm probably going to offer a full lifetime membership for $7 (one off fee) via a WSO to get the network loaded up and operating at an optimum capacity.

I'll have a demo video available once the site is live and ready to go... if anybody is interested. Might be a great solution for those who can't or don't want to shell out for monthly membership fee's.

After the launch, the cost will be going up to new members from that point.

ztws

Neurolinker has recently added one way bloglinks to it's arsenal. This service is available to members without having to pay an additional fee. Much like other services you can post content to other people's blogs and get a backlink (do follow btw) to your blog/money site.

Daniel McGonagle

Outsourcing costs way too much money... Tapping into and leveraging networks is the way to go here, by using services like LinkVana, Unique Article Wizard, Backlink Solutions etc...

1wayLinks is not effective anymore, which is why MyWayLinks has come out (better quality sites in the network)

NeuroLinker trumps 3waylinks in price and features.

I get a lot of complaints about LinkVana, but this is usally the end users' issues, not understand how long it takes to see results.

My Article Network is good, has a lot of sites in their network, but the same sites are picking up the articles first, causing repeat linkage from same sites.

Unique Article Wizard is pretty powerful and seems to work pretty well form what I've seen so far after 1 1/2 months of testing...

Traffic Kahuna seems to always be closed so no review or testing done there...

Jury's still out on NextGenLinks....

Again, the best thing to do is to tap into networks like the ones mentioned above, don't over-spend on outsourcing when you can get a membership to any of those sites mentioned above (or reviewed below..see sig gile) and pay a writer to write and submit some articles for you.

NOTE: If your on-page SEO is poor, none of this really matters anyways no matter who you hire...

vuedoolor

Which of these link building services are permanent even after cancellation?

Daniel McGonagle

Most of the X-way-linking services don't give you permanent links, but NeuroLinker has the double-feature of allowing you to do article submissions to get permanent one-way links, so not all is lost when you quit their service.

Any article marketing/syndication service that puts your articles (and backlinks) on other people's sites for them will give you permanent one-way backlinks for as long as those sites are active and your content is still there, with backlinks left intact.

csm

How are you able to determine that the same sites are getting the articles first? Since publishers indicate how many articles in a given category they wish to review/accept per day, it doesn't seem like the same sites should always be first in the queue for new articles.

If I upload 10 articles in a single category for distribution, are you saying that the same sites are always being offered my articles first? It doesn't seem like this should be possible if sites are randomly being sent articles for possible publication.

Of course, I can see if happening for some obscure category for which there aren't many sites in the system, but not for major categories.

Susan

John Pawlett

Daniel

That is outsourcing whatever way you look at it :-)

ProsperousMan

how about linkserp.com? anyone has experience with this?

Daniel McGonagle

John, you're right, in a way.

You BUY services
You HIRE people

My point, really, was that there are so many networks and services out there, that leveraging these services costs less and allows for money for people using the services to hire writers to do their submissions and what-not...

So if you buy a linkbuilding service membership and use it yourself, you're not really outsourcing you're still DIY-ing it...

But if you hire someone to "use" that service for you that's outsourcing absolutely... and a cheaper way to get r done...

Emmanuel Betinis

LinkVana is permanent after you've been with them for two months.

csm

I totally agree with your first statement. If I have to add code to my sites, I don't even look at a backlink service.

Re: Linkvana, what code are you referring to? There is no code to add to one's site. I don't disagree with you that any network could eventually be sniffed out by Google, but in Linkvana's case, I don't think it would ever be related to code as their sites on which your blurbs of text and links are placed are just plain Wordpress blogs.

Would you be willing to share which service this was? Since this is the review section, I think it is fine if you post your findings from using the service even if it is negative.

Susan

maryjane123

i have tired article marketing automation. it has a free trial period, see for your self if you like it. i liked the article spinner time consuming but easy to understand and use.

i tried traffic kahuna but could never figure out the snipets and how to use it.

nhazdy

yeah.. I still cant afford it. Although I know outsourcing is the way to go if you really wanna go faster. It takes a lot of my time to do it on my own..

cscarpero

I'm using Free Traffic System.

I'm also using the Paul and Angela backlink packets and outsourcing that to a guy overseas for $2/hr. Found him on Odesk. There were over 50 people that applied for the job.

ildarius

Great thread! I had:

- Good experience with Article Marketing Automation
- Not such great results with Linkvana for the "technology" category, PR was so so (lowest 0 highest was 3) and links stopped showing up after 2 months in Y site explorer.

Keep em coming guys

Anyone uses Reciprocal Manager?

Roncham

A few months ago I launched a new blog and joined with a group of other marketers to form an experimental bookmarking group. It was very successful and after just a few weeks most of the blogs had several hundred backlinks with pageranks of 2-4. All the blogs were brand new at the time we started.

Ken the person who formed the group is now offering limited spots in his Backlink WSO.

EdKirby

I was one of these marketers and I concur, in fact I had a very nice surprise on Sunday, I was checking position on various keywords that I've been trying to rank for and found that my main keyword is on the first page of G next to some really big dogs. Needless to say, I'm very happy with the results and will continue to work with Ken.

SocialMarketing4U

So far, high-ranking warriors posted replies to this thread.... hmmm ...

Well, here's one reply coming from a real newbie warrior.

I'll take a shot on suggesting the WSO that Active Warrior "solderite" posted.

csm

Thanks for posting about that WSO. I never would have seen it otherwise, and it looks like a no-brainer, so I jumped on it.

ildarius

Thanks, I just signed up, registered the SB accounts and bookmarked my first site, waiting for my first assignment

submit_articles

I use article marketing, press releases and blog posting.

With the 3 combined, I have a wide range of sites linking back to mine. Many of them have high page rank, esp. if they are coming from press release sites.

Once a keyword ranks in page 1, i move to another keyword/site.

Maureen Oliver

I have to throw my vote in for Ken's social bookmarking 101. I've done article marketing, 3waylinks, 1waylinks, blog posting...pretty much everything and have never gotten the kind of results I got from being a part of Ken's group. It took a new blog from unranked to a pr3 in a little over two months.

I especially enjoy that it is a collective effort of the members and I have made many new contacts. Ken himself is incredibly helpful and willing to answer any questions you have about bookmarking and SEO and he is constantly refining the system.

einfohound

I have used both My Article Network and Free Traffic System with much success.

My Article Network is $47/month, it will spin your articles for you, and submit them to as many blogs as are available in the network (currently over 10,000 blogs) that are looking for posts in the category you are submitting. (*NOTE: You can also join for FREE if you just want free content to post to your blog.)

Free Traffic System offers a similar service. They offer both FREE and paid accounts. You can insert more backlinks in your articles with a paid account.

Both offer an automated way to get HUNDREDS of PERMANENT backlinks to your sites at a VERY GOOD price.

freedomguy

For those who can afford to outsource but hesitate to use the paid link building services do what I do. Subscribe to Angela Edwards monthly package at $5 a month, do the first months work yourself then hire a local homeworker as an apprentice and train him/her to take over.

The reason for doing it yourself initially is to learn how to build effective links. Angela's tutorials every month make it a breeze. Then you can train your apprentice. That way you keep it in house and under control, you avoid the boring stuff and you create local employment. You also have someone to take over some of your other more mundane tasks as you grow.

I gather Angela is now working with another link package provider (Paul?) and together they will also do the work if you prefer, though I've not used that service yet.

ildarius

Cool sig freedomguy!

I'm using UAW now and tracking progress through Google Alert with a unique author name, I must say that I was pleasently surprised.

I'm not seeing any results as far as the ranking, but at least I know that my articles ARE getting posted.

Pretty encouraging

Matt Callen

Ok - I'll join the party too...

here's mine: www.MyArticleNetwork.com

The others mentioned here work well too, but ours is a bit different than them...

Matt

INFOSEEKER-2009

I agree with you there ... Quality Articles and Quality Directories ! ! !

JNFerree

I'm partial to Nuero too - and your SEO report is dam fine!

over59

I found the following sentence in a sales page for an article spinner and submitter.

You could get your article published on 379 sites and the result would still be the same. One lucky article gets the benefits while the others get nothing. No high rankings, no hundreds of backlinks, just one from the article that got picked.

Is this really the case that back link credit is given to only one article if multiple submissions are made?

Some previous posts on this thread suggest otherwise

omrid1

I use Linkvana (147$)and very happy with it although I hate paying additional 2$ for outsourcing posts and I try to do them by myself. I know that needanarticle.com will have a new service charging 1.75 soon. Anyone has another idea to cut on costs? Also, how is Neurolinker?

seolake

If I am not wrong, Neurolinker will keep links until you are a member. if you cease to be a subscriber, all backlinks are deleted. That makes me wary of them, though the price looks really compelling.

Emmanuel Betinis

7 days to try LinkVana to see if it works or not?

In my opinion, LinkVana generally takes
MONTHS to see results - 7 days isn't nearly
long enough to see any true long-lasting
SEO benefit...or at least be able to acknowledge
your linkbuilding results as a direct effect of using
LinkVana for 7 days (especially with a new site).

Nonetheless, it sounds like a nice idea
for someone to provide LinkVana for
7 days to help people out.

...but just be prepared for a bunch of newbs
complaining LinkVana doesn't work
because they "tried it for 7 days
and are not #1 yet so it sucks".

pavionjsl

Amazed no one mention one smart linking system...........But I am drinking Juice and can't talk

csm

Well, I assume you're referring to TheLinkJuicer.com which I only recently heard about and looks interesting based on a search on the forum. Feel free to share more here if you have some firsthand experience.

Susan

pavionjsl

Link Juicer is a co-op. Everyone can run campaigns which consist of 1-5 pages of your site, indicating how many links up to 3-7 per a page per a day as long as you run the campaign on that site. You include your accounts in a pool of accounts consisting of wordpress,A1webmarks, ask, backflip,blinklist,blogger,connectedy,delicious,di ingo,hellodaddio,linkagogo,live journal,mylinkvault, spotback,spurl,vox,wordpress. With his software which has a 30 day free trial, you put in keywords, a comment, a 150 word blog, and insert syntax in all of them. It spins all those and using everyones accounts puts a unique version everywhere to the pages of your site, Run as many campaigns as you want.

cryptone24

Has anyone used easy back linker by Andy Fletcher and what has been their experience. I could have swore there was a WSO somewhere but I can't seem to find it, or there just might be none.

BrandonBourne

I hired Red Virus from another site to make me 100 dofollow links for cheap to one of my sites and it really helped my rankings. Look him up and he has a ton of reviews so he is trustworthy. Do a google search for red virus dofollow.

cryptone24

I have the paid version of Free Traffic System, but have not captalized on it as yet. How have you found them better than Linkvana?
I just wish they had a better spinning symatex. I use PAR (Power Article Rewriter) and its not compatible with them, which is real pain for me.

kkchoon

Mixing links is the key component to new SEO! Many people complaint not seeing any result with particular service, because they don't do other backlinks!

Most services just give you decent push, you must have more link building strategy...

I am interested, can you PM me when it is ready??

Neurolinker is sure the best value service, highly recommended over other x ways link...

I still prefer outsource, although I had great result with Linkvana and backlinks solutions, it just take too much time and resources, and the link power is not as great as my own collection!

I love odesk, there are many good people with professional service at low cost, highly recommended!

One thing great about Linkvana is, you can expect to see more High PR blogs on your hand if you stay longer, and the new blog you post on it, will eventually became high PR blog in few months! That provides great value in long term...

Article Marketing Automation, Free Traffic System and all kind of blog networks doesn't work as well as Linkvana, they are good, but not great!

I think using an article submission software with spinner is enough, you don't have to pay $47 every month - Article Post Robot or Automatic Article Submitter are Highly recommended!

- Kok Choon

pakidesigner

paid links are not a good strategy..google can penalize for that.

Kurt Henninger

This is an excellent post, thanks! I've been investigating and using some of the link building services mentioned here.

Any recommendations on using them in conjunction with one another? Timing and or which ones work best together?

Been using UAW and Synnd together and really like the results, and am considering Linkvana, but looking for feedback on how to incorporate them all together into a system of building from multiple sources.

Roma

Great thread. Have tried UAW, but only for a short while. I am part of Ken's social bookmarking 101 and have got some great traffic, even from a site that was deindexed by google, but got to the top of Yahoo and Bing for .co.uk out of several millions and that must have been due to SB101, as I did nothing else!

Roma

livinglife247

has anyone used back link solutions?

it sounds like a good service but i have not seen a lot of activity in forums about the service.

Any idea anyone?

venusaffiliate

I use Angela Edward's service from here on the forum . It rocks!. do article submission as well and am looking at Unique Article Wizard right now.

tdotbaby

What about TheLinkJuicer.com - Anybody result?

Danny Turner

http://searchengineoptimizationtoolonline.info - not used myself but not listed above yet
great post

kimvalerio05

I am using Lexorsoft.net - Link Building Services - Outsourcing Solution in my experience in outsourcing all my link building job this is the best solution I ever experience.