andrewharrison

For the last year or so, I have been getting emails from Carbon Copy Pro. . . Maybe I signed up for their list. . . Don't remember. They make some HUGE claims, plus their program is VERY expensive. . . Has anyone or is anyone selling their product? They claim that each person selling is making 2K per week, and sometimes per day. Being that I am a skeptical person by nature, and being that I have my own products. . . I never bought into it. Has anyone? I would be curious to know. . . Thanks.

GarrieWilson

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williamcook

Hi Andrew...

I know a lot about Carbon Copy Pro...even though I am not in CC Pro. CC Pro is the funded proposal marketing system for Wealth Masters International. In a nutshell, CC Pro provides the websites, training, and autoresponders. In addition, it helps you to weed out the tire kickers from the serious because prospects must pay an application fee before speaking with you. The product is a high quality physical course on building wealth and managing debt. I know a lot of successful people in CC Pro and I would highly recommend it personally.

William Cook

entrepreneurisland

Hi Andrew, We know alot about CCPro as my husband and I are members and WMI M1 Consultants. I don't think they have ever claimed that everyone selling it is making 2k per week...it's like anything you get out what you put in. Is it pricey, Maybe if all you are looking to do is make some quick cash with very little expense. CCPro/WMI is a business and needs to run like a business, just like int eh Real World. How much would it cost you to set up your own brike and morter business.

The paid Apps, get rid of tire kickers for you that waste your time. $400 for BIB is going to teach you about most of what you will ever need for network marketing. You could easily spend that buying every online course that comes your way.

The WMI component has three different levels stressing wealth creation and debt reduction. You can place yourself at any level that you wish. The farther you go up the ladder the higher the comissions. We have recieved commision checks at a $1000 a pop.

This program is really targetted for the Serious Entreprenuer who wants to create a lifestyle for themself and thier families...There are some big hitters in this company who make 'sick' money but those people are 125% committed to thier business. If it is approached as a hobby or a way to make some 20 or 50 dollar commissions, CCPro will not be a great fir for you.
Hope this helps,
John&Stacey Himel

Robinlee

I don't know alot about the product but Im familiar with the offer. I did a google and submitted some key words like "Reviews on Carbon Copy Pro", ah "About Carbon Copy Pro", Is "Carbon Copy Pro a Scam" and I came up with enough to make a decision.

I decided against it. No.1 it was too expensive and No.2 based on some testamonials I have received is that the company is not upfront. They wait until you invest a certain amount of money and then Bingo require more money and if you can't come up with it then you cannot take advantage of the program. Sounds too much like entrapment to me. This is a method alot of questionable companies are using nowadays and quite frankly are making out right now anyway until ofcourse everybody catches on.

I don't know. I suggest you continue to investigate to come up with a fair and balanced decision. Check your Better Business Bureau on line and Check RipOffReport.com and a whole list of others before you make a decision if that is what you intend to do. I've gotten burned before and If I had of taken the time to investigate I could have saved myself a whole lot of money, frustration and aggravation. I still wonder why they never really talk about the product they are marketing????? Although thru back door investigations I found out anyway....ummm interesting.

wbnetwork

I am with Carbon Copy Pro as a M2 Master Consultant. My direct sponsor is Andrew Cass, whom I've know personally for 5 years. He is the #1 earner in CCPRO, making over 100k a month. You can google his name, he is everywhere. There is unlimited income potential, and it is very real and very serious. The system is set up for you do drive traffic to the capture pages and let the system sell the product. The commissions are huge and residuals are substantial. The most important part of companies like CCPRO is being with the right team to take the proper steps in the right direction. I chose this opportunity because all of the training associated with CCPRO is all about internet marketing. There are a lot of top internet marketers in this company, and the education from them, while making money, is priceless.

Loren Woirhaye

RipOffReport is not a reliable source of information. Alledgedly
the guy who owns it is a fugitive - with warrants for his arrest
for slander and extortion - random failures and crazy people
vent on the site and he extorts money from companies or
individuals that want the rants taken down to protect their
reputations. Scam.com is operated in a similar way -
I was banned there for calling-out one of them.

BBB is not a public service - it is a for-profit business and operates
in a profit-motivated way.

With income opportunities there will always be people who invest,
get in over their heads, mismanage their budgets, fail, and blame
the company, demanding a refund.

While I respect your decision not to join CCP you must understand
that all bizops will get bitter detractors who were unable to
succeed with them and feel victimized. If you identify with their
stories you should definitely NOT get into big-ticket network
marketing, because it is not for complainers.

I don't promote CCP and I don't endorse any marketing tactics
promoters of CCP might use or any bait-and-switch tactics -
I am just pointing out that if you go looking for dirt about
any money-making method you will find it, because scandal
,lawsuits, and bitterness usually follow money. It is because
when an individual is making a lot of money he or she becomes
a target for both ill-will and people who want to take some
of the money away from that person.

Thus network marketing companies ALWAYS get sued when
they are succeeding. All you need to do that is get a lawyer
to take the case.

Robinlee

I don't promote CCP and I don't endorse any marketing tactics
promoters of CCP might use or any bait-and-switch tactics -
I am just pointing out that if you go looking for dirt about
any money-making method you will find it, because scandal
,lawsuits, and bitterness usually follow money. It is because
when an individual is making a lot of money he or she becomes
a target for both ill-will and people who want to take some
of the money away from that person.

Hello Waren Woirehaye

While I respectfully agree with what you are saying in most of your points, I need to explain that I didn't just depend on others complaints about Carbon Copy Pro. I already had some suspicions about this company.

I first learned about this company via a site called The Coffee house. I followed the link to Jay Kubassek's site. I saw this young man standing by his BMW. That was Jay's first mistake (I don't need to know that he owns a BMW). I just have grown weary of these site owners pushing HYPE!!! Although I understand that it is a sells tactic that has worked for many.

Anyway he rambles and rambles and rambles about his story.....must have taken me about an hour to read every statement on his site (after a break or two) but he never even mentions anything about the product he is marketing. By this time I started to see red flags. If he had of cut some of the time in which he talked about his wealth in half and went into more about what he was marketing and the demand for it then he would have gotton more respect from me.

In an effort to give the guy a benefit of the doubt, I started investigating to see if I could dig up some general consensus. You have to have a little common sense when you do this because yes there are people out there that will slander your name for whatever reason. I pride myself in being able to "read between the lines". In this day and age of Internet Fraud, you have to be able to do that or else you are just a sitting duck.

Most of the testimonials that were critical were very candid, exact and to the point and moreover Jay Kubassek never responded to defend himself.....I mean this is everywhere and I can't see him not knowing about these allegations. Even moreso these testimonials confirmed some of my suspicions all along over a period of time. I kept hearing the same drum beat from different people that did not even know of each other. I went to multiple forums including this one to gather my information. So I mention this all to emphasize that yes places like RipoffReport.com, Better Business Bureau, Scam.com and others testimonials do have some value. You don't have to believe every word that you read.....just read it without bias. In other words be the judge and the jury.

The only rebuttles I saw were people that were invested in his program (some I suspect were undercover saying they were not a part of his program) and for reasons we both could figure out why they would defend him and Carbon Copy. After all if Carbon Copy should go down due to bad publicity, what would happen to the people that are invested in it. Sounds like another Titanic story to me.

In concluding, I would say that I would not call it a "SCAM" because I don't have the cold facts to support that kind of claim but I have gotton enough information out of my research to know that his business opportunity is not cut out for everyone (me in particular). Others have also came to the same conclusion.

I will not take hard earned money and subscribe to some company that fails to give me a detailed discription of what it they are marketing.

Respectfully yours

Loren Woirhaye

Cool. You did a sensible job of sorting things out
for yourself.

CCP is a marketing system for WMI - as far as I know
it is promoted as a monthly service and has a closed
affiliate program. For the monthly fee you get
squeeze pages, training, and I think you get a
"top earner" to call your leads for you. It is only
for WMI so you have to join WMI too in order to
benefit from the CCP system.

This is my understanding. Somebody on the inside
could probably tell you more.

I know a few people who got into it around the
time it launched. They were attracted to the idea
that they wouldn't have to tell people they hadn't
made any money with it because they wouldn't
be making the phone calls themselves. The funny
thing is the question "how much money have you
made?" doesn't actually come up very often
in prospecting unless you elicit the question in
some way. Objections usually work that way.

judeman

I must have submitted an opt in sometime ago then promptly forgot all about it. As a internet marketer wannabe then, I got distracted by the huge number of programs available and got confused by all the info overkill. Recently I've made a return and have been going through all the sites that I'd signed up for previously - just to weed them out and choose a couple of programs that I seriously want to promote. Thanks for the clarifications!

David Lemon

What I really don't like is you have to pay an "application" fee. They claim they only accept certain people, but would they really turn down anybody that is willing to pay? I am guessing the application is a hoax to get some uipfront money before they scare you off with the high price of their product.

sdentrepreneur

Full Disclosure - I am a Carbon Copy Pro member <---I like that line

I have been with PRO since October 2007, this company is not for anyone. If you are expecting money to come flying out of your computer or delivered to your door, then you are in wrong place.

If you are looking for a community of serious Entrepreneurs who truly want to help each other, then welcome home. The Wealth Masters Products and Seminars are expensive, that is where the Network Marketing part of the business comes in.

It does take hard work and lots of learning, similar to a college course. Nothing is free and easy in this world or everyone would be doing it. Did you see that Full Sail University charges $53,000 to get an Internet Marketing Degree? Really now....

pearsonbrown

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Thanks,

Pearson