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As all membership site software scripts are not created equal, I figured I would add to the mayhem by giving my opinion on what I consider to be the Top 3 Membership site software scripts: Top 3 Membership Site Software Products: Building Membership sites can be the most profitable of any endeavor you take on in Internet Marketing. Black Hat and White Hat enthusiasts alike have made tons of cash from simple Membership sites which offer nothing more than recycled content to complex ongoing sites with new unique content. Either way, if you want consistent, recurring income with little to no effort after you complete a website, then creating Membership sites can make you a steady stream of monthly cash like no other source of income can. For example: If you had 3 Membership sites which cost Members at total of $49.95 per month for the 3 Sites and you averaged just 10 new members each month per site, you would be making $5994 per month after one year. That is $71,928 a year! Most people would kill for that kind of income and that is with just 10 new members at $49.95 spread across 3 sites with low monthly fees like $9.95 or $19.95 per month! The important thing to remember is that when you create a Membership site, it should not be just focused on Internet Marketing. Internet Marketing is actually a rather small niche when compared to the multitude of other niches which can be exploited. Weight Loss, Acne Help, Art, Music, etc. Most profits come from these sites and not the Internet Marketing niche. You don’t have to be an expert in these areas to make a good site. Just do what any good researcher would do and go find the information and then build your sites or hire a Freelancer from any freelance site and have them do it for you. Having an easy way to build Membership sites is key. After many trials and tribulations, I have found that not all Membership Site Software is created equal. Not even close actually. I have found that many sites which offer Membership site software or scripts are usually not as good as the Sales Copy on the website that offered it. MemberFire is definitely one of the most disappointing products I have purchased as far as scripts go. I have 3 Membership site software products that I can honestly recommend. All of which have so many features that I cannot possibly list them all here, but I will give you the highlights and you can check the list of features yourself. We all have different requirements, but all 3 of these give you the kitchen sink with features. Update: I am really surprised that no one called me out on this article. I wrote this hoping to ellicit a response from people who have used these products as I have. If you look below you will see that there are quotes around my original Number #1 and Number #2 rated Membership site software scripts. That is because neither one deserves to be in the Top 5, let alone the Top 3. I was just trying to get feedback. Butterfly Marketing is a great script, unless you need support, which you will eventually. The Support structure for any and all of Mike Filsaime’s products is subjective to how the support staff feels, or in my case, they may never repond to you at all if you are asking for something simple, like a REFUND. Plus, while the Butterfly Marketing script is a pretty good script, you can get better for hundreds less that what they are charging for this. This script is a complete Rip-Off if you ask me. Mike Filsaime is a great internet marketer, there is no doubt, but he is only looking for your money. I mean, what magic does this script have that would make you pay $1000 or more for it?? The answer is nothing. I will show you why in a minute. The only decent product Mike Filsaime has produced is PayDotCom and he uses the data from that service to make more money for himself. Fantasos: Another great script if it were just a script. With the first version of JVManager, John Delevara gave you a great script which has a huge number of features for internet marketers. When he came out with version 2, it was focused on a strategy on how to make more money for himself and build on it using his Turbo Membership platform. Now, not only do you either have to have his $97 per month membership to use the Fantasos/ JVManager 2 software, but if you don’t want the membership, you will pay $3000 to get the full hosted version. Yes, you can get smaller hosted accounts for anywhere from $27 to $97 per month, but when you see the stripped down features, it points you right back to “why shouldn’t I justget the full $97 per month Turbo Membership?” Great marketing, but your hosted version is tied in to John Delevara’s main Fantasos server. This allows him to continually make money from you for the entire life of your account. Once you are hooked in and your business is built, you cannot just pickup your business and move it easily. John Delevara is counting on this. Can you make a lot of money with his Turbo Membership? Yes. But if you want independence for the long term, do not use this software. So what are the REAL Top 3 Membership Site Software products? Look below: Quote:
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2. DLGuard: DLGuard is almost on par with Instant Member with its features, but it leans towards being a secure script for creating and implementing digital products from Mini-Sites more so than Memberships. You can create unlimited Membership sites with one installation of DLGuard, don’t get me wrong, but it’s not as integrated as Instant Member. I love this software because with one installation, I can use over 15 different payment processors. Plus, once I create products I can use them over and over on different sites with having to upload the product to another location. You can litterally upload all of your products to the Amazon S3 site and serve them to 100 different Membership sites if you want. You can do this to a certain extent with Instant Member too, but it is so easy with DLGuard. My favorite feature of DLGuard, is that I can copy products and serve them using copies of the same website with Clickbank, PayDotCom, 2Checkout, PayPal, etc. Thus creating more avenues of income. So, depending on what your business structure is, you might think that DLGuard should be rated as the Top Membership site software instead of Instant Member. It is all in what feature set fits your business model. So check them both out. 3. EBizac: Now if you’re saying to yourself that each of the above options are way out of your league and you are looking for a more economical way to run your Membership sites, then the EBizac hosted solution is for you. With EBizac (which was just released a few months ago) you get a complete business platform which includes a complete shopping cart, multiple site capable, download protection, affiliate program creation, complete autoresponder, and Customer Support Help Desk solution. It also has a long list of features and currently costs a mere $29.95 per month. The Autoresponder that is integrated into the system is as good as any I have used on the market and has a long list of features which I believe could sell for $29.95 per month by itself. You can create an unlimited number of sites with this hosted solution, but the key is, you don’t actually host any of your sites here, you just used the autoresponder, link tracking, affiliate program, members areas, and customer support features there. Otherwise you host everything else wherever you want it. You can run affiliate programs with Clickbank or independent programs or both simultaneously with this solution. With all of these Membership site options, you cannot expect to make a lot of money without a good Autoresponder solution. As you see with EBizac, it is already included, but with the other 2 options it is not. Aweber and GetResponse (my favorite) are the 2 best Autoreponder solutions on the market. It is important to get with an Autoresponder company and stay with them because you can build a large list over time with tons of messages built into the system which are very difficult to replicate if you continually change providers. As with any software, your Membership site software needs to fit your company or business model. Take a look at the solutions here and see what fits. EBizac is good for the beginner, while, Butterfly Marketing Instant Member and DLGuard are good for a complete business solution. Fantasos is built with the Resell Rights/ PLR focused entrepreneur in mind. Take a pick and enjoy! My original post on this subject is listed here with the links intact. I did not want to litter the forum post with tons of affiliate links. Top 3 Membership Site Software Products I would love to hear any differences of opinion on this subject. Thanks. Mike | ||
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Hi Mike, Not like me to miss anything about Fantasos :-) but I missed this. I have been using JVManager 2 since it came out to run my e-commerce back office and give it a most definite thumbs up. Brian |
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| Michael Johnson War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009
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That is the only reason. With the other options, everything is in your court so to speak. A hosted solution would always be my last solution, because you can't change fast if you want to. you would have to litterally reconfigure your entire business to do so. Right? | |
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Hi Mike, What I meant was that I own the Script - so apart from upgrades and support my dependencies are zero (doesn't look like there is any chance of it not being updated). Brian |
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| Michael Johnson War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009
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I like it, but for most Marketers (in this economy), that is a big stretch. The price I mean. Considering what you can do with much lower priced products, it still doesn't hit my Top 5, but its my Top 5. Nobody else got a vote. | |
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Hi Mike, I was a JVManager 1 owner before it came out so I got an upgrade to Fantasos for being a previous customer. I do sell hosted accounts and do intend selling more of them but generally when my customers see how well the script performs they want to buy the full version through me to host on their own server and I, other Fantasos owners or USE-SELL make the transition either from JVM-1 or a hosted account to their own solution as painless as possible. I see what you are saying about being at the mercy as such of the script owner but I for one encourage people to buy their own script and supply consulting on how to host it, how to set it up, design it, etc. I am not sure if other hosted solutions allow you to buy their script (I have stuck with JVM-2) - I made a decision years ago to buy my own and after several 100's of wasted dollars finally came across the JVM stable which has transitioned from ver 1 to ver 2 and has always had a continuous upgrade path. I also realize that in today's economy that the price tag is more than most people want to pay but I have seen John offer payment plans on occasion. When I consult I am often asked about the pricing and advise that for the business owner to justify the price tag then of course they should be making money or at least have some sort of business plan to do so. For those that are not yet in the position of making money - the advantages of a lower monthly cost is the way to go and if it is linked in the case of Turbo Membership and available as part of the membership then that is a possible route to go (you get a helluva lot more than a Fantasos account). There are possibly a number of marketers out there that would take advantage of a hosted customer in the way that you describe - John Delavera is not one of them - I have been a customer, affiliate and authorized reseller for three years and so far cannot fault him on the way that he runs his business - as my company is more based on supplying services - his products are not the only ones I buy, use and sell, I also am a business that supplies and sells a number of solutions for Internet Marketers in the area of CRM, CMS and membership systems - some are better than others for the purpose they are required for. I realize that this is your top 3 or top 5 and of course you say it the way that you see it having used the scripts and services. Brian |
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I can't argue with that. Good post. As with everything. It all comes down to "What does Your Business Require?" Thanks. Mike |
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Mike Fantasos offers much more than all other scripts together and if one wants to have it on his/her server there is no dependancy at all. On the contrary: It's only Fantasos that allows you and your customers and the customers of their customers (if you allow it) to sell hosted accounts and offer all or some of the features. So the only question is if someone can afford it or not. Simple. |
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John, I rarely admit when I am wrong, but from what I have heard so far,I am seeing that my original assessment may have been wrong about your software. One fact remains, as you already said, the price point is probably too high for most. I would love to Join your Turbo Membership, but as I said previously, being tied into something I cannot eventually separate myself from easily is the thing I just can't get over. Unless of course, there is a way I do not currently know about. Thanks for the direct input. Mike |
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I just built a Wordpress membership site using WP Wishlist. It's $97, easy to install, easy to manage and the support is AWESOME.
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Thanks for tip on Fantasos. I had never heard of that one before. I'm googling it now...
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I first heard about this about a month ago on a thread on setting up a membership site. The link provided by the OP into the site looked like a nice, clean site. This is definitely on my 'to do' list for my own membership sites. The question I have on Wishlist is whether it can be used for multiple domains, or in my case, on one hosting account for multiple sites or if it's licensed for one use for one domain only. | |
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As for Instant Member script... Quote:
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To lassitermarketing: I just built a WP site and use this plugin. We have loads of content and 6 levels of membership. There's a problem - we can check the boxes to allow access to certain areas, but then hours later some of the boxes will be unchecked. What's marked as available is changing and we're not doing it. Have you heard of this, or is there a known plugin conflict with some plugins. Can you offer any insight? All the reviews I've read are glowing for this plugin but this problem makes it useless to us! Thanks in advance... |
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Thanks for the info on the top three membership solutions. I've been using Amember for a client and it's really hard to do OTO's with Amember. And when we got one working, we could not longer track our conversions with Google Analytics. Arghh! So the recommendation of Instant Member which I've never heard of is a blessing. Rodney |
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I am using AMember and it seems to work pretty well. David at Membershipacademy.com does a great job of suport and done for you services.
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I use the ultimate Marketing Center since 2006, and I am really satisfied. The only thing is that once you become more advanced, you may want more features and more tracking. Otherwise, it's a powerful service, I review it here if you need more information: The Ultimate Marketing Center | Ultimate Marketing Center Review | Affordable Web Hosting Franck |
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I've been trying to get amember.com & cgi-central.com for two weeks now and can never reach their servers... Are they gone? So, in turn I've looked at EasyMemberPro.com & now today, SimpleMemberPro.com , any thoughts? Terry |
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IMChick, WP Wishlist is limited to one domain unless you buy the multi version which costs 29$ and include unlimited personal domains. terrysacia, I can access amember.com's site. Could me your ISP/Network |
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| I know, sounds crazy... www . amember . com and amember . com I get a network timed out error. Same for cgi-central . com Not a problem with any other website I try to visit except these two. Anyway, I'm trying out WP Wishlist Membership now. Easy Member Pro required 5 installations on the same site to handle 5 different memberships. If anyone has knowledge of Wishlist I'd appreciate any feedback. I only purchased the single membership now while I try it out and if I'm happy with it I'll upgrade to the multiple site license. Although, I'm curious to know what the "secret" other plugins they recommend are... (only to the multiple site licensee's) Seems like it may help my decision to use their product over others if it's something that will help. Why keep it a secret? |
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That WP Wishlist (wordpress membership plugin) looks interesting. Anyone have any example sites?
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AutoCashMatic|The No 1 PLR & MRR Membership Site This is another example that belongs to one of the developers: Business Not Growing Fast Enough Leon McKee | |
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If you hear anything about (WishList Member) WL-Member Live in Vegas from this last weekend please post here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ive-vegas.html Leon McKee |
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Thanks for the example sites Leon. Looks good. I appreciate it.
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Pete, take a look at this thread: Building a membership site? Here's exactly how I built mine. Leon McKee |
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I use Memberspeed. I think it is a comprehensive platform but it takes alot of working out to make it fit your needs.
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Leon, I never did get there "secret list" of addon's because I figured they had to be nothing special if they were wordpress specific. I do enjoy their software however. I've had a couple of problems but within a days time they have an update out to me which fixes everything. I'm using it more for onetime sales, but some of the features really work well for that, too. Although they don't support PayDotCom instead of, or in addition to Clickbank, my next "test" is going to be entering the PDC info into corresponding clickbank fields in the plugin to see if that will work. Anyone else try this before I waste a bunch of time??? |
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yeah... the videos are good and so is there help desk, it should be interesting to try it out. However, as you probably know already you need to "switch" the site over to one processor or another. How do I tell the world to hold off on their orders while I play with this for a day? Maybe they'd give me a free license for 48 hours to play with on another site and save their tech guys some headaches if I can get it figured out... Terry |
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Wishlist has an option that allows you to install on an unlimited amount of personal domains for $297. If interested, I'd buy the one site option for $97 and they will allow you to upgrade for the price difference (200). Hope that helps. Neal |
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Thanks for the info. I already own DLG but never checked out the membership feature yet.
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I own membergate software. I also own WishList plugin for Wordpress. Frankly, I find WishList a better product on many levels. However if you are not comfortable with configuring Wordpress in any meaningful way, and simplicity is your goal, than Membergate might be the answer for you.
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