Heimir Finnson

Hey everyone,

Has anyone tried out this product aldready?
Does it deliver as promised?

Regards,
MachineHead

stormer

Sorry but I can't say if it delivers or not.

After checking out their site I was immediately put off by their tactics and emailed Jonny the Guru Assassin to tell him why.

Maybe some here might agree with me but if it DOES actually deliver I too would like to hear about it.

Here's what I said to Jonny:


Hi Jonny,

A couple of things about your Guru Assassin offer:

1) I like to print out some sales letters but yours will not 'print preview'
so I can: a) make sure it fits on the page and b) doesn't use more paper
and ink than necessary.

2) I see there is a membership site which (presumably) is not revealed
until after the customer buys the $77 ebook.
I don't like that tactic. Nor do I like Clickbank's system for memberships as I
had a hell of a job to cancel when I joined one a while ago. Never again!

So far as I am concerned you have a credibility deficit and unless the people
at the Warrior Forum say otherwise, I'll have to pass on this.

You could improve your chances of getting a sale by changing four things:
(and I haven't even read your sales letter)

1) Don't muck around with your site by by-passing 'print preview'.
2) Don't use that $10 discount ploy - it's dishonest and would lead me to ask for a refund.
3) Don't use that discredited tactic, OTO. Be up front with your customers from the start.
4) Use a different payment processor such as PayPal for your membership site.

There you are Jonny, some really valuable prospect feedback.
But of course, you're the Guru who probably knows best. What would I know,
I'm only the PROSPECT.

Cheers,

RichardLegg

I say otherwise.

Jonny is a Warrior and a good guy - I've seen a lot of his stuff here in the forum and know he's the real deal.

I don't think it's fair that just because he has additional products to sell, and the page will not 'print preview' , that he should be accused of having a "credibility deficit".

Also, my experience with Clickbank (as a buyer and seller) is that they have one of the most hassle free refund/cancellation policies that I know of.

Richard

SimonHarrison

From what I've seen of Johnny's posts, (admittedly not many) he would promote the opening of an envelope if it paid a good buck. Real deal is I guess a very relative term.

Agreed, so a marketer can't have additional products now ? Strange complaint. I can't see how it impacts on his credibility one iota.

Agreed again, cancelling anything on CB is the easiest cancellation available in payment processors there is. Infact it to damm easy frankly. Moaning that somebody is using CB as their payment gateway is like moaning your taxi driver collected you in a lousy Aston Martin.

I've purchased it as I do all these cheapies, and it seems perfectly reasonable so far , nothing ground breaking but that's not the market it's aimed at. Had little time to view it but essentiallly seems to be a solid guide on creating products by interviewing experts in a niche, then packaging it up and getting them to promote it to their own lists on the basis they make a buck from the package on an affilaite basis and you make a buck from selling their program and your own.

Decent model, used effectively in many niches, all been seen before but plenty of scope for somebody who enjoys this kind of model to make a buck. Lot of hand holding going on from what I've seen so far which is perfect for the market he's aimed it at.

A proof reader might not have gone amiss mind you, only skimmed the first PDF and saw two typos. I think he employed the same proof reader Alex G did...

No time right now to spend going through it, dozens of videos included, Johnny doesn't have one of those monotone voices , I've only watched a few minutes of one of the videos so far but it's quite easy listening, relaxed but informative , seemed perfectly presentable to me.

I'm sure somebody with more time will be able to do a proper review but on paper for a lousy $77 it seems fine, he will be looking to make his money on the back end membership gig.

SimonHarrison

Welcome to the forum , 1 post huh... Some of the more suspicous types might think this was no more than a secondary account used to put a product in focus :-)

Heimir Finnson

Those people may think what they want.
I just want to know if this works before buying it.
77$ are still quite a sum for me.

JonnyAndrews

Wow! Simon! Glad to see you've warmed to me since our days of posting back and forth about Goads products!

How are the kids? You haven't called much... is it my hair?

(I can change it you know...)

Actually I do all my own stuff. Sales letters, product and editing.

You only found TWO issues? Dude! I'm getting better!

Heimir Finnson

Well John Andrews himself,
Heh it would be kinda stupid to ask you if you'd recomend this product.

JonnyAndrews

Yea, dude, it's a total scam! Run, freaking haul AZZZZ outa here!

Heimir Finnson

What really??? No, actually I ment it as a sarcasm not a question

JonnyAndrews

Ha! Indeed!

I actually DO like the product. Used it just the other day and had 58 fat guys drop out of the ceiling with wet sacks of cash!

Insane. I just said "WOW".

Then I had to take a nap.

True story

Heimir Finnson

Riiiiight...

SimonHarrison

Hey I've just read my post and it was pretty positive, hell even defensive.. that IS me warming to somebody...

Two mistakes in the first PDF Jonny, that's in the first PDF.... Slacker...

Laters..

Roy Carter

Weeelll. Is it worth the price if only 58 fat guys drop out of the ceiling with bags of cash?

How big are the bags? Whose gonna pay to repair the ceiling? Is that covered by the product guarantee?

Roy

Heimir Finnson

But has anyone here actually tried this product?
Johnny might be a great guy I don't doubt that but that's not what this is about.

Regards,
MachineHead

JonnyAndrews

Violently obese men with HUGE sacks...

Oddly enough my homeowners is fighting the claim, and Jonny is NON responsive.

Great. Scammed again! When will I ever learn NOT to trust these boobs!

IMChick

Come ON, guys.

Well, I'll tell you, I think that the 'lost credibility' post was unnecessarily harsh. I was looking forward to reading actual product reviews (thanks, Simon).

BUT,

I have to say that the product creator, Johnny, is certainly doing himself a disservice with his posts in the thread. Cool it, guy--you seem really unstable to me. Maybe it's launch nerves, but you certainly could have approached the posts as a professional running a business.

Doesn't want to make me give you $ for the course.

JonnyAndrews

OMG! Is it showing? Crap! I thought I had that removed!

Yea, this one isn't for you. I take a far more enjoyable approach than "proffessional".

Sorry. Not nerves. Just how I am. But "unstable"... lady... you need to take a closer look

shukes

Hi,

t seems the original question was not answered, and that is, has anybody tried it and does it go some way to holding up the bold claims the sales letter conveys?

kind Regards

Peter

Heimir Finnson

I bought it and made NO money yet, SCAM.
Just kidding, I'm just reading through the modules right now.
But I'm starting to see how I can make money from tihs

BenShaffer

Great course. If you haven't bought it yet then you must.

Ignore Jonny when he says it was a scam. He's just trying to win a bet with the devil I think.

IMChick

Whatever. Is the course like this, too? Or can I learn and apply it to my business?

writetale

i'm with all the folks who have asked the BASIC QUESTION: does this program WORK?

looking forward to the first person that raises their hand and says:
1. yes, i bought, and
2. i made some money with this.

very simple. very basic. we're waiting.

p.s. style doesn't matter, as long as we get the BASIC answers.

arclight

I bought the course and are reading the PDF's and watching the video's now.
Have I made money from using it? That's a tough one......no I haven't.
It must be scam!!! There will be a new course out from someone else tomorrow....that'll be the one for me.
Let's get real here. This was only released a couple of days ago.
Of course I' haven't made money using it. YET!!
Things take time.
This course is packed full of great content.
What I have found is you have to take action and persevere. Don't go running from course to course.
This I have learned.....

Good stuff Jonny

ebuyer123

I bought it the other day, but still reading it...and so far so good

ebuyer

Julia Russo

Well, guys I bought it yesterday and so far I like what I see. It rates as one of the most comprehensive how2 I have seen in awhile. Most stuff I run into is designed to tease, not teach. I accept that it has to take time, I accept that not everyone is ready for everything they attempt to learn. My level of knowing what I am doing has risen with every investment I have made, even with those that sucked.
The task is to learn from every thing that has my interest in it or ask for a refund. And if it doesn't deliver or I am just not ready for that area of expertise, my money will be returned. Jonny knows that, as should every marketer out there.
Had no idea Jonny would be found here but he's quite a character, I see. If he's got that much money, he can probably say and do pretty much what he wants (within this forum's tolerance). You guys battle it out or like TV, tune out. For now, I am just entertained.

hkay

Is there any difference between this and another product called Money Siphon System? Would appreciate receiving comments from those who have looked at both the products

JonnyAndrews

Just a fast FYI: I'm doing a big-ol update in Module II for everybody because one of my buyers had a great idea...

That comes out tomorrow.

I'm also doing a live "Thank You" call on the 3rd for everybody who picks up a copy... We'll do a Q&A and a whole bunch of stuff to see who has what questions.

Then we'll have cake!

JonnyAndrews

Yes and yes. However I would strongly suggest YOU personally not buy it.

And I'm not saying that to be mean or anything, I just hate to see people buy something that's not for them.

This would be a total personality clash.

I do live calls where everybody has A LOT of fun and learns some sneaky ninja stuff... you would hate it. In the depths of your soul you would hate this.

Because I don't outsource my product creation I put A LOT of who I am in there.

As you can see in this thread loads of folks go for that.

Everything inside is taught from the perspective of people learning more when they're enjoying themselves. I know I do!

So while there is A LOT of great info inside...

...Because the delivery method is based around people learning AND enjoying themselves... you would probably want to rip out your eyes.

Please skip it. Save yourself the cash and the unbridled anger.

And like I said, this is only the opinion of the dude who made the system! You're just not my customer! There's nothing wrong with that, it just is what it is!

I'd suggest you maybe look into something by John Reece. He's more dry, to the point and without a lot of the humorous, real-world analogies.

Hope that helps!

Yankabilly

Hey Jonny
John & Brandon here, just wanted to let you know we ordered your Guru Assassin and we have enjoyed it so far. We do like your style it comes across in a funny way, which we believe takes some of the IM persure off of learning. (Thank God) a good laugh never hurts anyone...

We feel that what it has to offer is Solid Infomation that will help us and if not Jonny your 60 day Guarantee says it all. To all that are looking for the pie in the sky who knows, this may even be what your looking for.

No matter what course you take if you don't take ACTION it won't work and this one has alot of MEAT in it to chew on. So now you have to decide for yourself if this course is for you.

About the money part!
With just two days into it, No we have not made any money yet!
Will we? Yes but it will take us some time, because we are setting up some things as we go.

Jonny thanks so much, and we know that if we need help you'll be there for us and that means a whole lot.

Take Care
John & Brandon

writetale

thanks, mikeong88... you hit the nail on the head for me.

at this stage of the game, i'm not looking to push my own product, so Guru Assassin wouldn't work right now. thanks for that heads up.

Vivre

Hi, I am new here, however, I have started out online with affiliate marketing.

I was going to promote Guru Assassin; however there is a problem for affiliates. When you promote this product, you only have one chance to sell the item, which is when the potential customer first lands on the page. If they do not buy, but sign up for the free video, the customer then becomes 100% a non-affiliate sale.

Before I choose a product, I signup for the free item through my own affiliate link and see what happens. With all of Jonny's products, you are not given credit if they sign up for the free item on his page; you are only given credit if they buy the first time. This is why I cannot understand why there are so many people promoting this product. All they are doing is sending free traffic to the owners, with no compensation, as well as, building up the owners mailing list. The affiliate page for this product gives emails to send out to your own list, but again, if your list signs up for the free video then they get the same emails from jonny through his own link, which is no-credit for the affiliate.

The product may be very good, but as an affiliate, you actually want compensation for your hard work in promoting it. This does not happen with this product. I also tested another one of his products through my affiliate link and I got an email after sign-up that led directly to his partner's product with 100% profits going to the partner. His products may be great, but I don't know why affiliates would want to promote them, as there is nothing in it for them - except for maybe a person who buys instantly without getting the free item.

If there is an experienced affiliate marketer out there who can explain why so many affiliates are promoting this, please let me know. I really cannot understand this. Is everyone just hoping for that one instant sale?

Thanks for any input!

SimonHarrison

How does the customer then become a 100% non affiliate?

It's Clickbank, cookie is about 90 days as I remember. Once you send them there even if they go back a month later after adding themselves to his prospect AR, you should still get credited.

He's not going to shoot himself in the foot and steal commisions from his affiliates.

I've had the usual folks in that ring send me promo emails, Alex G & Dave, not been spammed on this one.

Vivre

[quote=SimonHarrison;480603]How does the customer then become a 100% non affiliate?

It's Clickbank, cookie is about 90 days as I remember. Once you send them there even if they go back a month later after adding themselves to his prospect AR, you should still get credited.

He's not going to shoot himself in the foot and steal commisions from his affiliates.
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I don't know what is going on behind the scenes, but I have tested signing up for the freebie. If someone signs up for the free video, they then receive emails promoting the product. If they order from any of these emails, the order form says [Affiliate = none] at the bottom of the form. This is what I meant by 100% non affiliate sale.

The only way the order form comes up as a credit for the affiliate is if the customer orders the first time on the page, or saves the affiliate's link.

I believe most people assume that all systems work as they should and so, do not test anything first. I believe his products are very good, but the testing I have done doesn't do much for affiliates. Perhaps this is a ClickBank issue.........I'll have to check it out with them, as well.

SimonHarrison

[quote=Vivre;480884]I see, yes that is strange, I would contact him directly, definatley concerning. I'm sure he will want to know, not good karma for the affiliates.

JonnyAndrews

Hold up there dr!

That's 100% not true.

ClickBank cookies last for a very, very long time and I'm certainly not doing anything to take money from my affiliates.

In fact, since my goal was to get as much CB gravity as possible it would have been beyond stupid for me to snatch those cookies!

Dude, my entire online success has been based on the fact both sides make money when people promote my stuff!

So yea, I'm not sure where you're getting your info... but it aint right.

I've been promoting this to my new list and all the partners who sent traffic... if that traffic joined my list they are STILL getting credit for the sales.

Example: I know Goad mailed 2x for this... but he did not mail again today. Yet he's making A LOT of sales right now.

This is because my autoresponder series follows up and if that prospect buys the original sender of that traffic STILL gets credit.

Seriously, I'd be out of my mind to try to strip cookies! Do you have any idea what that would do to my crediblity in the market?!?! Good lord! I would have to be a lobotomized horse corpse to pull a stunt like that!

Having this be a ClickBank issue is far more realistic. I've had those dorks blow out on multiple occasions and am STILL getting emails from some poor family who can't get the credit card processing page to work.

Nothing I can do about CB. I wish I could because it's obviously costing me money... but such is life.

Hope that cleans it up a bit.

If the cookies aren't sticking it's NOT because I'm doing something personally. Like I said: That would be pure INSANE.

squeezecpa

I agree with Johnny. There is so much negativity and conspiracy theory on here sometimes. http://www.image-jump.com/image/ii/Bh.gif

Heimir Finnson

I agree with Jonny

JonnyAndrews

I know there's a setting in the new version of IE that can do that. There was a thread in the main forum a while back about all that stuff.

But I think he was talking about having everything set to "not affiliate" or something. The major issue there is if somebody did do that it would totally shred their CB Gravity.

Totally a bad idea.

Truth be told I actually got all paranoid and went through the pages in my autoresponder to see if there was some weird-ass thing I didn't know about. Everything checked out.

Even cleared my cookies, used another affiliates hoplink, joined my own list and then hit each page individually in different windows. The affiliate ID came up great every time.

There was an instance a few months go where one of my partners download the sales letter and hard coded their CBID into the actual buy link. (NO idea how they did that) in that case CB did not credit them with the OTO sales.

THAT was strange, but like I said, the affiliate put my page on his site and did something squirly to the buy link. (against my better advice!)

So yea, I'm not sure where the issues may have been coming up... and I really haven't noticed a sudden surge of non affiliate sales. Maybe it was just a weird browser or CB issue? Who knows. That stuff can happen.

Heimir Finnson

Quick question Jonny, since this is MY thread hehe.

"This Is How A Guy Made $29,842.33 In Under 30 Days Strating With No List... No Site... And No Clue..."

WHO is this guy and what method did he use. He must be some kind of market Einstein.

googlerankingexpert

Hey there Jonny, love the Guru assassin. Honestly, there is one pdf in there that is worth the whole course alone. I don't like many internet marketing products, because it's all the same info reworded again, but yours stands out. Way to go!

blingish

I'm a relative newbie to IM and I haven't bought many courses. (I don't think.) Infomillionaire, Beating Adwords, Who Loves Money, Inside the List, Wealthy Affiliate member, And most recently Guru Assassian. I have to be honest here, I'm only a couple of days into the Guru Assassian course and for the first time since I started I really feel like I am going to be able to make this work! Jonny knocked it out of the park and I am extremely happy with the purchase! I am not an affiliate of the product but I recomend it. (maybe I'll become an affiliate :-) little difficult to get all of the videos to play, at first, but after watching a quick video where Jonny tells you exactly how to get them, no complaints. Imho it is money well spent. Thanks Jonny

hkay

Thanks Mikeong88 for your reply. I think i need to start with the first step before the second. Rgds

Simon Harding

Thoughts on Guru Account

I have tried not to buy too much stuff as it takes me away from doing other stuff, like building my own blogs and niche sites.

However, as I have said elsewhere on this forum, I am a believer in buying certain things as you never know what ideas you might get. Also, a good product can be a kick up the behind to motivate you to do more.

I have bought two launches recently, the Niche Blueprint launch and Guru Account. Why these two? Well, principally, I am a member of Commission Blueprint and think it’s very good so I thought I’d try out this new launch. I’ll report back on that one.

I have also liked Jonny Andrew’s stuff before so thought I’d try this new version of Guru Assassin. He’s also zany and hyper and it makes for entertaining content. (as you might gather from his participation in this thread!)

So did this deliver?

Well, as those of you who have read my reviews before know, I like to look at what is PROMISED in the Sales Page first.

The Headline:

“This Is EXACTLY How You Go From Broke And Unemployed To Making Over $29,842.33 In Less Than 30 Days Starting With No List... No Website...And No Money..."

He then provides a graphic of a Clickbank account showing that amount of money.

I guess that must be for the Money Siphon System launch. Whether he was broke or not before then, I’m not so sure of – as he had already done five WSOs and two or three product launches and according to Guru Assassin version 1 was a successful niche marketer before.

So this is a bit of hype. But, hey, we are all used to that.

We then get video sales proof of his sales and sales copy about why we should trust him.

Actually, it’s a good sales page, I think, that can be used as a good template. We get quite a lot of story, which might be true or partially true, or spun. Who knows. THat's business.

He then sets out the Modules.

In regards to what he says Module 1 contains, having read the stuff and seen the videos, it does contain what is says. Always a bonus.

Module 2 breaks down a series of business models that you can follow and Module 3 has a huge number of Videos on how to do just about everything on setting up Clickbank accounts, setting up Paypal, an opt-in page, adding Aweber etc.

He also provides templates to copy and a video on how to use them.

So, so far so good. What he says he will deliver in terms of information, he does.

So the Sales page, apart from being hyped, does not particularly over-sell the product like some. It does NOT pretend to be advanced or to appeal to advanced marketers. It does not say you need to buy other things and then recommend you do.

Now, onto the content.

You pick a niche by picking popular products – so its product and less niche driven.

Basically, the system recommends building a list in a variety of ways and growing it, depending on from where you start. If you have nothing, he gives you several methods to build up to something.

You in the meantime create your own products and sell them as WSOs and on Clickbank. He tells you how to get proof if you are starting out and other good ways of building credibility.

He provides a series of spreadsheets on tracing JV partners and ‘Gurus’ to get them to help you promote your product and gives examples of failure and success.

He gives you a large number of Videos on how to set everything up.

It also should be noted the content is virtually completely different from that in the first package which I also own.

Verdict

The product is very good for people who wish to go into info product creation models and sell to their list.

Inanswer to the question above 'have you bought it and have you made money' it's not really an instant cash producing system - it will take at least a week, I reckon. A week of actual work.

It is not a 'push this button and a million dollars' will flow into your account kind of system. I don't think Jonny is selling is as such.


If you have several successful WSO launches under your belt, operate in a variety of niches, do your own product launches and are already making several thousand bucks a month, this isn’t for you.

I like the fact that it doesn’t pretend to be that, unlike other launches I have commented on.

If you follow it, I believe you will have a fighting chance of success, particularly is you fail and keep going. What I also like is Jonny doesn’t pretend it’s all going to be easy or push button.

It’s a system he offers with template sand guides and material to copy and emulate along the way. But it takes WORK and hard work too.

So, all in all, I have no regrets. It gave me some good ideas and also was a good motivational piece for me.

Go for it, I’d say to any fence sitters.

And in case anyone is wondering, my reviews are honest. If I hate a product, I say so and why.

Enjoy!

nolachief

great review, simon, thanks for the info. i have, and really like, syphon system. Still on the fence for GA.

Heimir Finnson

Yeah I know what you mean Simon. I have spent almost every hour on this project since I bought it. Bought it on Friday, took two sickdays, heh and now I'm about to get to the point of earning something.

It's a GREAT program and I reqomend it to everyone, when I bought it I knew NOTHING og IM or anything related but that has changed.

Thanks Jonny.

JonnyAndrews

Glad you like it! And Simon, than you for the kind review.

Just remember the call this evening! It'll be good times and fuzzy bunnies.

fxmmorale

Hi,

This is a great thread that can help newbies with regards what to expect and what they should expect with a newly purchased product.

With regards to the 'Money Siphon System' and 'The Guru Assassin', both of these products are systematic in their approach to Internet and Affiliate marketing which should automatically tell us that there is work involved.

It's very rare if at all, that you can digest and implement a system all in one shot. As Jonny mentions in 'The Guru Assassin' : "not to try and do everything in one day or your head will explode". Despite the injected humor, this is very true and that's why so many people jump into something and end up leaving just as fast with their head on fire.

The Guru Assassin and the Money Siphon System are an excellent one two punch for anyone aspiring to become a successful internet or affiliate marketer.

If you already own the Money Siphon System, you may remember that a prominent part of the actual strategy was to create info products that you could point back to in case your prospect didn't purchase your affiliate offer. Well what if you don't know how to create a product? This is where 'The Guru Assassin' perfectly fills in that gap, solves that problem and gets you making money.

So if you buy the Guru Assassin today will it happen for you tomorrow? Forget it. Not unless you have a lot of experience with internet or affiliate marketing and already understand the basics enough to make a profit.

To sum it up, if you choose to purchase the Guru Assassin, don't expect it to work for you if you're planning to buy something else tomorrow and the next day. Focus on what the product has to offer and give it a real go until it starts bleeding cash for you. If you do that, you'll make money.

Anyway that's enough of that. Is this an endorsement? Heck yeah, because I've already generated some income with the first system and that's without going full steam yet.

You're asking the right question, now you've got to take the right action.

To your success either way,
Nando

P.S. Thanks Jonny for the entertainment you provide in your videos and you're style of writing because it can get awfully boring staring at this computer screen. I'll be sure to tip my waitress, in hopes that you'll be back next Tuesday. lol

Vivre

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Hi there Jonny, I have tested it all again with a new hoplink & email, and it is still not working for me; however another product (not yours, Jonny) is not working for me either, so now I have to go through all my products and figure out what is going on. Must be either my system or something with ClickBank. So here was a new lesson for me, and I also owe you an apology for assuming it was only your product; not some other malfunction of some kind. So, MY APOLOGIES !!

The fact that you were concerned enough to go and test everything shows loud and clear that you truly DO CARE; a rarity in this business. I hope this sets the record straight for all who are reading the thread.

I have not gone through your entire product as of yet, however since I am having so much difficulty with affiliate marketing, maybe I should use your product to get into something else!

Take Care.....and thank you for the testing on your end.

wealthsecretxposed

Thank God I have stopped my campaign of this product 2 days back. My CTR is high but ZERO sales! Could this be the reason?