mobile money bandit

by arkhamindustries 51 replies
anyone ever heard of this? or tried anything like it?
I found his webinar here
Pay Per Call Marketing
this was the first I have ever heard of cost per call marketing.

I am in no way affiliated with the above offer and that is not an affiliate link.
I am just curious in finding out more on cost per call in general. If someone has experience with this product or program maybe they could let me know their thoughts and if they had success with it. I would also love to hear of any other courses you might suggest instead.

Is there any information on cost per call in the war room? I have been looking for an excuse to join
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  • Profile picture of the author Bundberg
    Pay per call is a relatively new field in IM, I have found some offers on Offermobi that pay up to $45 per call, maybe fellow warriors can add more networks. .
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    • Profile picture of the author TPFLegionaire
      Originally Posted by StarT View Post

      Pay per call is a relatively new field in IM, I have found some offers on Offermobi that pay up to $45 per call, maybe fellow warriors can add more networks. .

      Just had a look at the sales page (which, as sales page go, is pretty awesome). If you close the page you will be presented with an optin giving you access to a list of 22 companies and network. This should help you in your research.

      I am not going to buy it just now as i am unfocused enough as it is but it's a clickbank offer so you can take a look at no risk and bit of your time.

      hope this helps.
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    Originally Posted by arkhamindustries View Post

    anyone ever heard of this? or tried anything like it?
    I found his webinar here
    Pay Per Call Marketing
    this was the first I have ever heard of cost per call marketing.
    I went ahead and joined the program.
    For $77.00 there is a lot of good info with over 20 short videos on theory and a few gold nuggets on on Pay per Call marketing.
    I myself am a newbie to this,
    Justin does give very good insight on which networks and some offers to run.
    If you want to get the more in depth theories and concepts you must join Justins VIP membership which is slightly pricey for my taste at $197.00 for two months. But I would also add Justin does a good job of giving some free ways to get your ads out there to make some money from the beginning.
    Already started some free campaigns will see how they do.
    I am confident Justin's techniques will work if you put them into action.
    Will probably upgrade to VIP once I get some more campaigns under my belt.
    Hope this helps:p
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    • Profile picture of the author perswealth
      Actually that VIP membership just went up to 3 payments of 197. I guess alot of people were joining the VIP membership, so he increased it.

      Just to clarify, the front-end product is $77, but the upsell is if you want more in depth coaching, which WAS the 2 payments of $197, but has now been increased to 3 payments of $197.
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      • Profile picture of the author seanybyrne
        Interesting all right...

        How do you get traffic to your number? Is this all about paid traffic?

        Thanks,

        Sean
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        • Profile picture of the author Hans Klein
          >>> How do you get traffic to your number? Is this all about paid traffic?

          There's a free section where he gives away 11 free promotion tactics. Justin recommends that section if you have less than $100 to spend. He said that he has some campaigns that do $400 a day with just free traffic.
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          • Profile picture of the author MDAZ
            Originally Posted by Hans Klein View Post

            >>> How do you get traffic to your number? Is this all about paid traffic?

            There's a free section where he gives away 11 free promotion tactics. Justin recommends that section if you have less than $100 to spend. He said that he has some campaigns that do $400 a day with just free traffic.
            Hans or anyone else who has purchased this course...

            Have you tried the free traffic method he outlined in his course? I wonder how successful the free traffic method has been. If he's recommending PPC, I'm not so sure $100 would be enough like one of the warriors mentioned on this thread.

            Does he offer enough meat in this course without the upsell of 3x$197?

            I love to get some feedback on the free traffic method if someone has tried it and can chime in.

            Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChadH
    It's a good course... I promoted it with success and I RARELY promote stuff to my list that is not my own. I had access to it back in November. I have very very in depth experience with paid traffic.

    So that has probably helped... I have hit over $1,000 days with his methodology. I was so impressed I have been giving away my entire Traffic Blackbook series as a bonus for it. All in all, impressive!
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  • Profile picture of the author TrafficBot
    ChadH: Great to see you here from Mobile Money Bandit JV blog on facebook. Like Chad said Justin Elenburg is the real deal and his course is excellent. His support staff is great and they get back to you in a timely fashion if you have a question. This is not your typical mobile marketing course that has hit the internet in recent weeks and months. He really knows his stuff and actually practices what he teaches in his course unlike many of the other mobile marketing launches out there.
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  • Profile picture of the author aminur
    it's a brilliant course to be honest. i got the training and the vip upsell. Awesome content packed together.
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    I don't think it would bring any traffic to your number... would it?? Is there anyone with personal experience??
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    If Chad recommends a product that is good enough for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Blazon1
      There was a WSO earlier last year that covered pay-per-call. If you find this one too pricey, maybe you can find that one in the WSO forum (if it is still open). I think it had pretty good reviews.
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      Originally Posted by mge View Post

      If Chad recommends a product that is good enough for me.
      +1 for me mge. I heard about this via Chad H's emails and thought I'd better give this a shot if Chad is raving about it - because he rarely promotes anyone's products (why should he since his products are top notch?!). Anyway... I bought it and I'm going through the course now. I've been approved for a few PayperCall offers and am going to buy some mobile test traffic via Google and Bing to see what keywords and adgroups convert.
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    If you are having trouble getting someone to click on your adsense ad imagine how hard it is to get someone to pick up the phone and dial your number.
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  • Profile picture of the author Woody C
    Originally Posted by mjzivko View Post

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WE ALL KEEP FALLING FOR THE SAME THING



    All these WSO and Clickbank products are worthless. The only people making big money are the people peddling this stuff.
    I'm confused.

    Did you actually purchase the product and not like it?

    Can you go into more detail as to why you didn't like it?

    If you haven't purchased it, why are you commenting on the thread?
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    • Profile picture of the author mjzivko
      Originally Posted by Woody C View Post

      I'm confused.

      Did you actually purchase the product and not like it?

      Can you go into more detail as to why you didn't like it?

      If you haven't purchased it, why are you commenting on the thread?
      I did not buy the Mobile Money Bandit. I almost did. I have bought so many WSO offers and I finally realized what was happening to me. The way they advertise them is genious. They get me all pumped and whipping out the credit card in minutes. But the truth is no of these WSO has ever contributed to my bottom line.

      Look, some of these WSO offers are good. There is one now for auto blog commenting for $15, that would be a good benefit to some people. Its also has to do what you do with them after you buy them. Unfortunetly they always advertise them as "next big thing" and it turns out to be a let down in the end. (for me that is). And I almost bought the Auto Blog Software! LOL. The marketing is just soooo effective. But resist the temptation and take a day to think and research the product. It will save you time and money

      I beleive that the Mobile Money Bandit will give you a list of Pay Per Call campaigns that you can find for Free (look at Ringrevenue, then sign up for the companies using Ringrevenue) I also believe that MMB will tell you how to tap into Mobile PPC. Just go to Google Mobile Ads or Microsoft Ad Center. And then they will rehas the same old Google Places, website building and link building info that is readily available to all of us for free on the web (and warriorforum is a great resource)

      Correct me if Im wrong about MMB, but what are they really going to show us? Why would they risk their current success by selling the system to rest of the world. So do the math. they claim to make 145K per month using this system. The system cost $77. So if they are making abot 3K per day, they would need to sell 40 WSO a day to match that effort and warrent this HUGE risk. 40 a day is 14,600 sales a year. It just doesnt make sense why they would sell their system for so cheap if they are making so much money. How in the world could they maintain a 40 sales per day number? And how long could this program be relavent?

      The only answer could be the following:
      1. They are NOT really making 145K a month from this system
      2. The system is untested and unproven, but in theory would work
      3. Is a waste of time and money


      If you interested in Pay Per Call it is nothing different the Pay Per Click. All the same rules apply. You have to build good sites and get good traffic. If your looking for Pay Per Call clients just do a quick Google search.

      Hope this helps
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      • Profile picture of the author perswealth
        mjzivko,

        I get what you're saying, but given that you haven't purchased the product, then you really have no business commenting on this thread, as it is for people that have actually bought the product and used it and have a USEFUL opinion.

        Look, we've all been suckered into buying worthless stuff that didn't do anything for our bottom line, I'm with you on that. It's an experience i'm sure everyone on this forum has had. If you haven't, consider yourself in the minority, and you probably haven't been around the block that long.

        And are there bad people out there selling junk to separate you from your money, unfortunately, yes. That's the world we live in. It is what it is.

        BUT, to say that EVERYONE is peddling junk without even trying the product is not only doing a disservice to the people that are interested in buying the product, but also to the product owner that created the product.

        You say that you have generated several million dollars online? Congratulations. Personally, I applaud you. I assume it wasn't easy. I do OK online (not millions), and it has been VERY hard, and VERY frustrating, but worth it.

        So i'll also make an assumption that you are a product owner in some form or another. Now let me ask you this. What if you had put your blood, sweat, and tears into a product to genuinely help people in a niche that you were targeting

        Then one day you visit a forum (about your niche) and come upon a post from a bitter poster who hasn't even purchased your product, and says this:

        "Yeah, don't even waste your time with mjzivko,'s product. It's probably rehashed junk that you could get somewhere else for free. Another B.S. product. Don't waste your money."


        How fair do you think that would be to your hard work? How would that make you feel? Do you think that's right? I hope you don't, because it's not.

        And as to your comment about it being nothing new, maybe there are people out there that have never done pay per call? I being one of them. So i have no point of reference. And if you do have PPCall experience and are doing well, then obviously this is not for you.

        And they don't only talk about free ways to make money with this, they talk about the paid ways, which is the main reason i bought the course in the first place. I'm already well versed in SEO and stuff like that so I didn't really look at that part of the course. Yes, i purchased and i will get to my review in a minute.

        But the point is that not everyone that gets on Warrior know about the different products and all the strategies to make money that come out in the marketplace, PPCall may be one of them. So they are new and looking for guidance. Could they get the information for free about PPCall form the net?

        Personally, i haven't seen any, but i'm sure if i really looked I might find something from different places on the net. But you know what? That takes time and effort and you said yourself to not waste time. I completely agree. Time is a luxury that we don't have an infinite amount of (and some less than others depending on age).

        So I'd rather buy a course and learn all in one place, than to have to scour the internet to find all the "disjointed" information where it won't be all uniform, and i'll have to put the jigsaw puzzle of information together, which will take even MORE time, and may even confuse me even more than before.

        And if i have questions about the "free" information that i find on the net (which i most definitely will), can i ask questions to the guys that put that "free" information out there? No

        And about the wasting money part, if I decided to try and teach myself in order to save on the $77, then blew through $1k trying to learn how to do this, did i really save money?
        That's why i never really understood the "Save your money and don't waste your time" argument, when, in fact, you're doing neither when you go it alone dong it the free way.

        And if the product sucks? Get a refund. They have a 60 day no questions asked refund if you aren't satisfied. So where is the risk?

        And about the selling of the course to the world for $77 (Much more if you take the upsell), you realize that he is building a list that that YOU are paying him to be on, right? And that list is another asset in his business, that will pay him for the rest of time by promoting affiliate offers. And you can't really put a price on what that is worth, given that the list will increase over time (as more people purchase the product) and monetizing that list through affiliate offers.

        It's just another revenue stream for him, mjzivko. Nothing more, nothing less. It's just a good business decision


        OK, enough of that. The review. I won't make this long as this post is already lengthy. Personally, i liked the product. As someone might have mentioned, you can do this either the paid way (my reason for purchasing) or the "free" way.

        He says he makes about $400 the free way, but I'm assuming he has virtual workers doing the work that he lays out because i imagine it takes a GARGANTUAN amount of work to get to $400 a day with the methods that he describes. Like Craigslist posting, yahoo answers posting, forum posting, email signatures, Facebook posting, etc.,

        And for the newbies who are really new, he teaches you how to not only how to sign up to the different networks, but also how to sign up to the PPCall networks WITHIN the network. A little tricky for some of them, but he shows you step by step on video.

        And the paid methods. Now PPCall works the same, IN THEORY, to regular PPC, but there are nuances, in terms of keywords that you use, and the methods on how to set the campaigns up correctly.

        He also talks about using "extensions" in your campaigns and how to do it. I would not have known about this if i didn't take the course. Would i have figured it out on my own? Probably, but not right away.

        He also gives great tips on how to get keyword lists, and ALOT of them, from different sources. Some free, some not. But they are good sources, all of them.

        But just make sure that you have a budget. Remember, this is PAID traffic. He recommends about $100 ( i believe he said). I don't agree. To do paid traffic, you'll need at least $500 plus to start, because remember, not all campaigns will be a success. And you need to pay for data in order to split-test and find what works.

        I could go on, but i don't want this to be a book. Bottom line, in MY opinion, this is a good product, and i won't be refunding this, unlike most products i get from Clickbank.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mr Ex
          Hey Perswealth,

          A Great Response. I just purchased Mobile Money Bandit and the Upsell. I have some IM experience but I want to learn from someone who has had Success instead of trying to figure it out myself.

          Rock On,
          Mr Ex
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        • Profile picture of the author mjzivko
          I get what your saying. Well thought out response. Sorry Im just replying now.

          So now that the dust has settled has anyone made money from this?? All the WSO start off hot and everyone is optimistic. Then the thread dies down and everyone is off to the next best thing.

          I have looked at several of the Mobile Money Bandit threads and all Im seeing is people saying that are not having success or they need more help.

          The bottom line is that if this WSO offer was so freaking great as they HYPED it up to be, then you would see a lot of positive results now.

          I dont know why im so compelled to help peoeple out from wasting their money on this bull crap.

          And to you Perswealth, have you recouped the money you spent on MMB? Im dying to know, LOL.

          Originally Posted by perswealth View Post

          mjzivko,

          I get what you're saying, but given that you haven't purchased the product, then you really have no business commenting on this thread, as it is for people that have actually bought the product and used it and have a USEFUL opinion.

          Look, we've all been suckered into buying worthless stuff that didn't do anything for our bottom line, I'm with you on that. It's an experience i'm sure everyone on this forum has had. If you haven't, consider yourself in the minority, and you probably haven't been around the block that long.

          And are there bad people out there selling junk to separate you from your money, unfortunately, yes. That's the world we live in. It is what it is.

          BUT, to say that EVERYONE is peddling junk without even trying the product is not only doing a disservice to the people that are interested in buying the product, but also to the product owner that created the product.

          You say that you have generated several million dollars online? Congratulations. Personally, I applaud you. I assume it wasn't easy. I do OK online (not millions), and it has been VERY hard, and VERY frustrating, but worth it.

          So i'll also make an assumption that you are a product owner in some form or another. Now let me ask you this. What if you had put your blood, sweat, and tears into a product to genuinely help people in a niche that you were targeting

          Then one day you visit a forum (about your niche) and come upon a post from a bitter poster who hasn't even purchased your product, and says this:

          "Yeah, don't even waste your time with mjzivko,'s product. It's probably rehashed junk that you could get somewhere else for free. Another B.S. product. Don't waste your money."


          How fair do you think that would be to your hard work? How would that make you feel? Do you think that's right? I hope you don't, because it's not.

          And as to your comment about it being nothing new, maybe there are people out there that have never done pay per call? I being one of them. So i have no point of reference. And if you do have PPCall experience and are doing well, then obviously this is not for you.

          And they don't only talk about free ways to make money with this, they talk about the paid ways, which is the main reason i bought the course in the first place. I'm already well versed in SEO and stuff like that so I didn't really look at that part of the course. Yes, i purchased and i will get to my review in a minute.

          But the point is that not everyone that gets on Warrior know about the different products and all the strategies to make money that come out in the marketplace, PPCall may be one of them. So they are new and looking for guidance. Could they get the information for free about PPCall form the net?

          Personally, i haven't seen any, but i'm sure if i really looked I might find something from different places on the net. But you know what? That takes time and effort and you said yourself to not waste time. I completely agree. Time is a luxury that we don't have an infinite amount of (and some less than others depending on age).

          So I'd rather buy a course and learn all in one place, than to have to scour the internet to find all the "disjointed" information where it won't be all uniform, and i'll have to put the jigsaw puzzle of information together, which will take even MORE time, and may even confuse me even more than before.

          And if i have questions about the "free" information that i find on the net (which i most definitely will), can i ask questions to the guys that put that "free" information out there? No

          And about the wasting money part, if I decided to try and teach myself in order to save on the $77, then blew through $1k trying to learn how to do this, did i really save money?
          That's why i never really understood the "Save your money and don't waste your time" argument, when, in fact, you're doing neither when you go it alone dong it the free way.

          And if the product sucks? Get a refund. They have a 60 day no questions asked refund if you aren't satisfied. So where is the risk?

          And about the selling of the course to the world for $77 (Much more if you take the upsell), you realize that he is building a list that that YOU are paying him to be on, right? And that list is another asset in his business, that will pay him for the rest of time by promoting affiliate offers. And you can't really put a price on what that is worth, given that the list will increase over time (as more people purchase the product) and monetizing that list through affiliate offers.

          It's just another revenue stream for him, mjzivko. Nothing more, nothing less. It's just a good business decision


          OK, enough of that. The review. I won't make this long as this post is already lengthy. Personally, i liked the product. As someone might have mentioned, you can do this either the paid way (my reason for purchasing) or the "free" way.

          He says he makes about $400 the free way, but I'm assuming he has virtual workers doing the work that he lays out because i imagine it takes a GARGANTUAN amount of work to get to $400 a day with the methods that he describes. Like Craigslist posting, yahoo answers posting, forum posting, email signatures, Facebook posting, etc.,

          And for the newbies who are really new, he teaches you how to not only how to sign up to the different networks, but also how to sign up to the PPCall networks WITHIN the network. A little tricky for some of them, but he shows you step by step on video.

          And the paid methods. Now PPCall works the same, IN THEORY, to regular PPC, but there are nuances, in terms of keywords that you use, and the methods on how to set the campaigns up correctly.

          He also talks about using "extensions" in your campaigns and how to do it. I would not have known about this if i didn't take the course. Would i have figured it out on my own? Probably, but not right away.

          He also gives great tips on how to get keyword lists, and ALOT of them, from different sources. Some free, some not. But they are good sources, all of them.

          But just make sure that you have a budget. Remember, this is PAID traffic. He recommends about $100 ( i believe he said). I don't agree. To do paid traffic, you'll need at least $500 plus to start, because remember, not all campaigns will be a success. And you need to pay for data in order to split-test and find what works.

          I could go on, but i don't want this to be a book. Bottom line, in MY opinion, this is a good product, and i won't be refunding this, unlike most products i get from Clickbank.
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        • Profile picture of the author camitran1
          Originally Posted by perswealth View Post

          mjzivko,

          I get what you're saying, but given that you haven't purchased the product, then you really have no business commenting on this thread, as it is for people that have actually bought the product and used it and have a USEFUL opinion.

          Look, we've all been suckered into buying worthless stuff that didn't do anything for our bottom line, I'm with you on that. It's an experience i'm sure everyone on this forum has had. If you haven't, consider yourself in the minority, and you probably haven't been around the block that long.

          And are there bad people out there selling junk to separate you from your money, unfortunately, yes. That's the world we live in. It is what it is.

          BUT, to say that EVERYONE is peddling junk without even trying the product is not only doing a disservice to the people that are interested in buying the product, but also to the product owner that created the product.

          You say that you have generated several million dollars online? Congratulations. Personally, I applaud you. I assume it wasn't easy. I do OK online (not millions), and it has been VERY hard, and VERY frustrating, but worth it.

          So i'll also make an assumption that you are a product owner in some form or another. Now let me ask you this. What if you had put your blood, sweat, and tears into a product to genuinely help people in a niche that you were targeting

          Then one day you visit a forum (about your niche) and come upon a post from a bitter poster who hasn't even purchased your product, and says this:

          "Yeah, don't even waste your time with mjzivko,'s product. It's probably rehashed junk that you could get somewhere else for free. Another B.S. product. Don't waste your money."


          How fair do you think that would be to your hard work? How would that make you feel? Do you think that's right? I hope you don't, because it's not.

          And as to your comment about it being nothing new, maybe there are people out there that have never done pay per call? I being one of them. So i have no point of reference. And if you do have PPCall experience and are doing well, then obviously this is not for you.

          And they don't only talk about free ways to make money with this, they talk about the paid ways, which is the main reason i bought the course in the first place. I'm already well versed in SEO and stuff like that so I didn't really look at that part of the course. Yes, i purchased and i will get to my review in a minute.

          But the point is that not everyone that gets on Warrior know about the different products and all the strategies to make money that come out in the marketplace, PPCall may be one of them. So they are new and looking for guidance. Could they get the information for free about PPCall form the net?

          Personally, i haven't seen any, but i'm sure if i really looked I might find something from different places on the net. But you know what? That takes time and effort and you said yourself to not waste time. I completely agree. Time is a luxury that we don't have an infinite amount of (and some less than others depending on age).

          So I'd rather buy a course and learn all in one place, than to have to scour the internet to find all the "disjointed" information where it won't be all uniform, and i'll have to put the jigsaw puzzle of information together, which will take even MORE time, and may even confuse me even more than before.

          And if i have questions about the "free" information that i find on the net (which i most definitely will), can i ask questions to the guys that put that "free" information out there? No

          And about the wasting money part, if I decided to try and teach myself in order to save on the $77, then blew through $1k trying to learn how to do this, did i really save money?
          That's why i never really understood the "Save your money and don't waste your time" argument, when, in fact, you're doing neither when you go it alone dong it the free way.

          And if the product sucks? Get a refund. They have a 60 day no questions asked refund if you aren't satisfied. So where is the risk?

          And about the selling of the course to the world for $77 (Much more if you take the upsell), you realize that he is building a list that that YOU are paying him to be on, right? And that list is another asset in his business, that will pay him for the rest of time by promoting affiliate offers. And you can't really put a price on what that is worth, given that the list will increase over time (as more people purchase the product) and monetizing that list through affiliate offers.

          It's just another revenue stream for him, mjzivko. Nothing more, nothing less. It's just a good business decision


          OK, enough of that. The review. I won't make this long as this post is already lengthy. Personally, i liked the product. As someone might have mentioned, you can do this either the paid way (my reason for purchasing) or the "free" way.

          He says he makes about $400 the free way, but I'm assuming he has virtual workers doing the work that he lays out because i imagine it takes a GARGANTUAN amount of work to get to $400 a day with the methods that he describes. Like Craigslist posting, yahoo answers posting, forum posting, email signatures, Facebook posting, etc.,

          And for the newbies who are really new, he teaches you how to not only how to sign up to the different networks, but also how to sign up to the PPCall networks WITHIN the network. A little tricky for some of them, but he shows you step by step on video.

          And the paid methods. Now PPCall works the same, IN THEORY, to regular PPC, but there are nuances, in terms of keywords that you use, and the methods on how to set the campaigns up correctly.

          He also talks about using "extensions" in your campaigns and how to do it. I would not have known about this if i didn't take the course. Would i have figured it out on my own? Probably, but not right away.

          He also gives great tips on how to get keyword lists, and ALOT of them, from different sources. Some free, some not. But they are good sources, all of them.

          But just make sure that you have a budget. Remember, this is PAID traffic. He recommends about $100 ( i believe he said). I don't agree. To do paid traffic, you'll need at least $500 plus to start, because remember, not all campaigns will be a success. And you need to pay for data in order to split-test and find what works.

          I could go on, but i don't want this to be a book. Bottom line, in MY opinion, this is a good product, and i won't be refunding this, unlike most products i get from Clickbank.
          Oh, that's great! That is what I think about.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mr Ex
            Hello,

            This course is not bad BUT...The price for the Upsell went from $400 to $600. Can You Spell Greedy ******* ? I purchased the whole course thru my Affiliate link because I was going to promote it.

            Overall the forum is DEAD. If you want advice from Justin, Do Not Hold Your Breath. I get the impression that he does not care about his buyers. He Just Wants Their MONEY.

            If you really want to buy this, Go to Clickbank and buy it thru your affiliate link. Justin could care less. He still makes Money.

            He recently started a Mobile offer network. I applied over one week ago and am still waiting for his response. This tells me he does not really care or his help does not care. I am not complaining. I am in other networks. I just want everyone to know what to expect if you buy his course. I am sick of Irresponsible MORONS.

            Sincerely,
            Mr Ex
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      • Profile picture of the author cadoutsource
        Originally Posted by mjzivko View Post

        Correct me if Im wrong about MMB, but what are they really going to show us? Why would they risk their current success by selling the system to rest of the world. So do the math. they claim to make 145K per month using this system. The system cost $77. So if they are making abot 3K per day, they would need to sell 40 WSO a day to match that effort and warrent this HUGE risk. 40 a day is 14,600 sales a year. It just doesnt make sense why they would sell their system for so cheap if they are making so much money. How in the world could they maintain a 40 sales per day number? And how long could this program be relavent?

        The only answer could be the following:
        1. They are NOT really making 145K a month from this system
        2. The system is untested and unproven, but in theory would work
        3. Is a waste of time and money


        If you interested in Pay Per Call it is nothing different the Pay Per Click. All the same rules apply. You have to build good sites and get good traffic. If your looking for Pay Per Call clients just do a quick Google search.

        Hope this helps
        mjzivko my fellow Chicagoan,

        I understand where you are coming from, but I would suggest yes just like you I bought a lot of WSO's some of them worked and others didn't. But overall I was glad I bought them. You can never stop investing in knowledge if you want to be successful in this IM field. If you just do some research on Justin you will find that is who he says he is. He has made money using these methods. I don't know him personally but he has written a lot of articles on the pay per call methods. I choose to follow a mentor that has proven success. Pay per Call is still in it's infancy and a lot of money to be made. If you look at the companies actually paying you to promote them they are market leaders in their niches. Who am I to say these companies are wrong for promoting their products and services this way. I'm just glad I found out a new cash generating stream to ad to my marketing mix. Good Luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author Izesta
        Originally Posted by mjzivko View Post

        I did not buy the Mobile Money Bandit. I almost did. I have bought so many WSO offers and I finally realized what was happening to me. The way they advertise them is genious. They get me all pumped and whipping out the credit card in minutes. But the truth is no of these WSO has ever contributed to my bottom line.

        Look, some of these WSO offers are good. There is one now for auto blog commenting for $15, that would be a good benefit to some people. Its also has to do what you do with them after you buy them. Unfortunetly they always advertise them as "next big thing" and it turns out to be a let down in the end. (for me that is). And I almost bought the Auto Blog Software! LOL. The marketing is just soooo effective. But resist the temptation and take a day to think and research the product. It will save you time and money

        I beleive that the Mobile Money Bandit will give you a list of Pay Per Call campaigns that you can find for Free (look at Ringrevenue, then sign up for the companies using Ringrevenue) I also believe that MMB will tell you how to tap into Mobile PPC. Just go to Google Mobile Ads or Microsoft Ad Center. And then they will rehas the same old Google Places, website building and link building info that is readily available to all of us for free on the web (and warriorforum is a great resource)

        Correct me if Im wrong about MMB, but what are they really going to show us? Why would they risk their current success by selling the system to rest of the world. So do the math. they claim to make 145K per month using this system. The system cost $77. So if they are making abot 3K per day, they would need to sell 40 WSO a day to match that effort and warrent this HUGE risk. 40 a day is 14,600 sales a year. It just doesnt make sense why they would sell their system for so cheap if they are making so much money. How in the world could they maintain a 40 sales per day number? And how long could this program be relavent?

        The only answer could be the following:
        1. They are NOT really making 145K a month from this system
        2. The system is untested and unproven, but in theory would work
        3. Is a waste of time and money


        If you interested in Pay Per Call it is nothing different the Pay Per Click. All the same rules apply. You have to build good sites and get good traffic. If your looking for Pay Per Call clients just do a quick Google search.

        Hope this helps

        BUT, you make the false assumption that Justin himself will stop all his profit-making activity in order to sell his program.

        He's selling through affiliates. He stands to earn upwards of $200 or more for each sale made by an affiliate. For eons to come.

        When Ray Kroc sold McDonald's franchises, he wasn't out there flipping all the burgers himself. Instead, he took the time to develop and sell franchises so he could get a cut every time Joe Blow flipped a burger.

        This is business 101 - especially online.

        I think his course has merit.

        It was a bit perplexing however on one of his videos where he intentionally blotted out his CJ earnings on the screen. If you are bragging about how much money you are making, why would you blot it out if the figures supported your assertions? Unless showing it somehow violates something somewhere.

        I would never bank on earning anything near what Justin claims, but a few grand per month ain't bad.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
        STOP buying so many courses and put some of them into action for longer than a month and you'd see some success.... That's you're problem, not the seller.!!!





        Originally Posted by mjzivko View Post

        I did not buy the Mobile Money Bandit. I almost did. I have bought so many WSO offers and I finally realized what was happening to me. The way they advertise them is genious. They get me all pumped and whipping out the credit card in minutes. But the truth is no of these WSO has ever contributed to my bottom line.

        Look, some of these WSO offers are good. There is one now for auto blog commenting for $15, that would be a good benefit to some people. Its also has to do what you do with them after you buy them. Unfortunetly they always advertise them as "next big thing" and it turns out to be a let down in the end. (for me that is). And I almost bought the Auto Blog Software! LOL. The marketing is just soooo effective. But resist the temptation and take a day to think and research the product. It will save you time and money

        I beleive that the Mobile Money Bandit will give you a list of Pay Per Call campaigns that you can find for Free (look at Ringrevenue, then sign up for the companies using Ringrevenue) I also believe that MMB will tell you how to tap into Mobile PPC. Just go to Google Mobile Ads or Microsoft Ad Center. And then they will rehas the same old Google Places, website building and link building info that is readily available to all of us for free on the web (and warriorforum is a great resource)

        Correct me if Im wrong about MMB, but what are they really going to show us? Why would they risk their current success by selling the system to rest of the world. So do the math. they claim to make 145K per month using this system. The system cost $77. So if they are making abot 3K per day, they would need to sell 40 WSO a day to match that effort and warrent this HUGE risk. 40 a day is 14,600 sales a year. It just doesnt make sense why they would sell their system for so cheap if they are making so much money. How in the world could they maintain a 40 sales per day number? And how long could this program be relavent?

        The only answer could be the following:
        1. They are NOT really making 145K a month from this system
        2. The system is untested and unproven, but in theory would work
        3. Is a waste of time and money


        If you interested in Pay Per Call it is nothing different the Pay Per Click. All the same rules apply. You have to build good sites and get good traffic. If your looking for Pay Per Call clients just do a quick Google search.

        Hope this helps
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        • Profile picture of the author mjzivko
          Wow....Mike Hill.. Your wrong buddy. Im tying to help the little guys out from wasting their money on these bull crap WSO products. Maybe Mobile Money Bandit will help some people out, but your mostly helping the seller of it out. And Ive asked plenty of times if anyone has recouped their investment and Ive yet to get one person to respond.

          Also, not to be a brash show off, but Ive been running a multimillion dollar marketing company for the last 5+ years and have been making money from the web since 1998. I spend more money on software, programs, ebooks, bull **** WSO etc then most people will make in their entire internet marketing career. I know ALOT about putting in time and success and their are plenty of warriors who looked to me for advice.

          All Im saying is that the warriorforum WSO offers are mostly a waste of time. And if you read my posts, which are free, I explain that the only way to make money (real money) in the internet game is to bust your ass.

          I do need to update my opinion about WSO. If the WSO is a product or tool like PR Powershot and a few others software WSO have been well worth the time and effort. If you look at the WSO offer for PR Powershot promo they are not over hyping the product as if it will change your life and make you rich. The product does what it says for the most part and there were never any lame attempts to upsell me. In fact they updated the software big time and didnt even make me pay to access the new version.
          http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...t-rocking.html

          Anyways, Mike, please tell me one WSO that promised $400 dollars a day easy, or 230K in 30 days, or Number 1 in Google in 17 minutes THAT EVER LIVED UP TO THE HYPE!!!!

          Its only a matter of time before I get kicked off this forum for my point of view and that is fine by me. Its a huge waste of my time to write these posts. I dont know why I feel so compelled to call out these frauds, but I do.



          Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

          STOP buying so many courses and put some of them into action for longer than a month and you'd see some success.... That's you're problem, not the seller.!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author mjzivko
          Wow....Mike Hill.. Your wrong buddy. Im tying to help the little guys out from wasting their money on these bull crap WSO products. Maybe Mobile Money Bandit will help some people out, but your mostly helping the seller of it out. And Ive asked plenty of times if anyone has recouped their investment and Ive yet to get one person to respond.

          Also, not to be a brash show off, but Ive been running a multimillion dollar marketing company for the last 5+ years and have been making money from the web since 1998. I spend more money on software, programs, ebooks, bull **** WSO etc then most people will make in their entire internet marketing career. I know ALOT about putting in time and success and their are plenty of warriors who looked to me for advice.

          All Im saying is that the warriorforum WSO offers are mostly a waste of time. And if you read my posts, which are free, I explain that the only way to make money (real money) in the internet game is to bust your ass.

          I do need to update my opinion about WSO. If the WSO is a product or tool like PR Powershot and a few others software WSO have been well worth the time and effort. If you look at the WSO offer for PR Powershot promo they are not over hyping the product as if it will change your life and make you rich. The product does what it says for the most part and there were never any lame attempts to upsell me. In fact they updated the software big time and didnt even make me pay to access the new version.
          http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...t-rocking.html

          Anyways, Mike, please tell me one WSO that promised $400 dollars a day easy, or 230K in 30 days, or Number 1 in Google in 17 minutes THAT EVER LIVED UP TO THE HYPE!!!!

          Its only a matter of time before I get kicked off this forum for my point of view and that is fine by me. Its a huge waste of my time to write these posts. I dont know why I feel so compelled to call out these frauds, but I do.



          Originally Posted by Mike Hill View Post

          STOP buying so many courses and put some of them into action for longer than a month and you'd see some success.... That's you're problem, not the seller.!!!
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    excellent comment, that's exactly what I think, too.
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    Just watched the video this evening. Wish I could draw that good
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    Thanks for reviews guys. Might take a stab at this as it's all new to me and it'll be quite exciting to try something new out.

    Thanks

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  • Profile picture of the author arissa
    hi

    guys, is this applicable for non US citizen? as I heard people outside US can join those mobile ads network & PPCall networks. Is this true? because if I spend $77 + upsell & I found I can't implement due jurisdiction limitation then its worthless for me.

    Please I need solid answers not assumtion from those who never buy it
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    • Profile picture of the author John Reed
      It's convenient for me that the last post already refers to "Outside the US" Warriors.

      I've seen a few WSOs where there was a lot of RAVE in the air, but not enough warning that actually they would only work properly in the States.

      So, this is a direct request for info (neither a criticism nor a favorable review) - these 800 numbers mean nothing to me (maybe I'm just too new to this area of communications) so WILL this work in the UK?? I expect NOT!?

      Thanks - I noted that Willie Crawford was backing this program but he also may not be thinking about those of us that don't live "in the world", just in "the rest of the world"!!

      I'd be glad to know the answer................... Willie's on his January Cruise so I don't think I can ask him!

      John
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      • Profile picture of the author Hans Klein
        Inside the members area, Justin has a list of around 20 affiliate networks for just U.S. affiliates and a second list of about 15 affiliate networks that people in other countries can apply to.

        So... yes, most affiliate networks accept those from other countries.

        That said, most pay per call offers out there target the U.S. market. I've seen some that target Canada. However, you don't need to be in the U.S. or Canada to reach those in the U.S. or Canada using the Internet.
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  • Profile picture of the author gpxint
    Wow! Very impressed with the length & depth of this program.

    I see Pay-per-Call as a viable business model for exponential growth
    in the future. Only goes to show that in a world of computers &
    automation, a real human being on the other end of the phone
    can never truly be replaced.
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  • Profile picture of the author badcow
    I got the course; didn't get the OTO. Learned the basics of how Justin does Pay Per Call offers through free and paid traffic. It gave me enough knowledge to try applying for some offers and run some paid traffic to them. I had one conversion, but my ROI is not positive yet. However that is to be expected whenever you are testing new traffic and new offers. I wanted to go with paid traffic because results are faster. I haven't tried the free traffic methods.

    I will vouch that the training is put together well. Easy to follow and understand. I think all of us who like running affiliate offers via paid traffic will include Pay Per Call as a permanent strategy for the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author PattyK
    I would imagine you need a website to get approved? Is this course newbie-friendly for the person with zero affiliate marketing skills?

    Thank-you!
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  • Profile picture of the author swriviera
    posted by Iconsult:
    Originally Posted by lconsult View Post

    First of all, Pay Per Call is completely different from the traditional Pay Per Click/CPA model. Unlike PPC/CPA, PPCall's goal is to have someone press a button on their mobile phone to contact a vendor about a particular service. Instead of having to have a sales letter, video, or other type landing page do the "selling" before one gets paid for the CPA, because of the higher conversion percentages, companies will pay simply for causing their phone to ring by genuinely qualified customers. (e.g. no incentivized calls)
    Thank you for this information. I have not used PPC nor CPA. Unfortunately they both get a lot of bad press in forums, I believe it is for 2 reasons:

    1. In the past there were a lot of scams around these methods but the companies are now making it almost impossible to "fake" it. Thank goodness - that protects not only the potential client but the marketer as well.

    2. It involves further investment. Most people don't seem to realize that if you had a traditional brick and mortar business you wouldn't hesitate a second to pay such small amounts of money to get your business started ($100 - $500) but here in IM so many people seem to be seduced by the idea that you can make money appear from thin air.

    My hesitation in PPC/PPA has been the investment - not because of the amount but whenever you invest it is best to understand what you are investing in so as to put all of the chances on your side that the investment will be profitable. I've preferred to study the free methods first to understand the system a little better.

    My question: Does this course outline all of the different elements of the paid methods sufficiently enough to be able to "place your money" correctly?

    Also,
    PattyK asked: do you need a website to get approved?

    One last question: How labor intensive is this method?

    I'm very tempted to try this method because I can definitely see the merits - let me tell you why:
    Last fall I went to the States to help my daughter get settled over there (I live in France) and we had to set up EVERYTHING. So, we used a lot of those 1-800 numbers to get more information from a REAL person. We needed to ask specific questions about her unique situation that you cannot find on a website FAQ section.

    Thanks for any answers
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  • Profile picture of the author gpxint
    I own this course, and in all honesty it's probably the best Clickbank
    product I've ever purchased. I've never seen a business model as simple
    as the PPC concept. If you're on a budget there's also free promotional
    methods included in the course.

    I highly recommend this product.
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    • Profile picture of the author dreamcatcher90
      Originally Posted by gpxint View Post

      I own this course, and in all honesty it's probably the best Clickbank
      product I've ever purchased. I've never seen a business model as simple
      as the PPC concept. If you're on a budget there's also free promotional
      methods included in the course.

      I highly recommend this product.
      this is true
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    It concentrates on those campaigns that pay $10 or more per call or have a 3 minute or a little less.
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  • Profile picture of the author Da68vid
    I bought it last month and haven't had any success yet. Posted a few campaigns on google. I get impressions, but amost no clicks and no conversions.

    For the users who bought the course, I was wondering if you purchased any of the VIP memberships and if they had helped.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Da68vid
      Originally Posted by earningbaranaba View Post

      How many impressions are you getting?
      how many adgroups are you creating?
      how much money have you lost?
      what are you bidding?

      I bought the VIP since i had such a success with the normal one, It is definitely worth it.
      I'm running my first campaign on Google. It's been running for about 3 days.

      I have 2 adgroups with 2 ads in each group.

      150 total impressions. 1 click and no conversions.

      I thought that I did a pretty job picking keywords, but obviously not.

      The network EPC for this campaign is about 450.00.

      Thanks for you help !
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    What does the vip coaching upgrade include? The sales page for it is very vague. It just says "Lifetime access to my secret lair", "My CPA attack Coordinates", and "The Media buying blueprint". Can anyone explain in more detail what those are? Are they just more videos? Does it include a forum or some type of support? It looks like it's only a one time payment of $194 now so I am considering buying it.
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    pick keywords in the 400-500 searches range
    bid simulator works too
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  • Profile picture of the author DH Harris
    I bought this program and it was PURE GARBAGE.....Stay away!!!!

    This would even piss a newbie off.
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    • Profile picture of the author mobilemob
      Originally Posted by DH Harris View Post

      I bought this program and it was PURE GARBAGE.....Stay away!!!!

      This would even piss a newbie off.
      Hey Harris,

      Just wandering.. did you actually test his method or not?
      Watching the webinar above, it does sound like a viable business model. I do hesitate with the $6 bid on google adwords but it looks like it work for him.. so can't really argue. PPC more than a dollar scares me at the moment.

      I've read a somewhat similar strategy on shoemoney.com website a while back. The different is Jeremy does it in a kind of offline thing. Calling the business owner directly to negotiate the cost per lead. He gave example of car dealer cost per lead $15 per call and setting up 800 phone for tracking the lead. The tracking method is similar to MMB, the traffic source is different.. or slightly different.

      Anyone else have any small success/fail with MMB model yet? Please share.


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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Mobile Money Bandit is created by Justin Elenburg and it is a high quality product, which is very rare today... Everyone is getting tired of those get rich click, push button millionaires... This is different. I must tell you that it definitely takes some work to make money online, but if you work smart enough, you do not have to work very long and hard. So first of all, let me tell you a few facts. These are the results that Justin Elenburg got from kind of strategies that you will learn from Mobile Money Bandit:

    •Commissions earned in 2011 - over $500K (that's about $40K per month)

    •Average conversion rates above 20% (keep in mind that today a 5% conversion rate is awesome.

    •Average payouts between $10 to $30 could be better, but the conversion rates are so high
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    As always the only people happy with these products are the list senders lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author mobilemob
    I can see how it "might" work. By the way I haven't bought it yet. Working on other thing at the moment. All I know is just from the sales video and webinar above and few years working in telco.

    There are some circumstances that supports this business model such as "do not call" in Australia which forbid businesses to call residential number that have opted in this list. There is also spam act which apply to sms and email. Businesses cannot call residential numbers like they used to anymore. Hence they advertise on tv/radio or the usual offline printed material including newspaper and letterbox, etc.. the smarter one use cpa like MMB.

    If someone can match their marketing budget and deliver the same (or more) customers through the door, then it's a win win right?

    I am not suggesting to buy or not buy MMB. Justin seems to do a great job on the video.

    I am just wandering, do people use their mobile phone to do research on their home loan? or plumber/electrician? I don't, of course it doesn't mean others are like me. When I am at home looking for plumber, I use my local newspaper or google local search on my computer. Maybe there are a lot of people that prefer to use their mobile phone instead of their computer to search local plumber. Well, may be they don't have computer at home and relying on mobile phone to browse internet.


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    Here is a sneak peak inside members area of Mobile Money Bandit:

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  • Profile picture of the author mobilemob
    Check this out:
    http://mashable.com/2012/03/14/slow-...s-infographic/

    According to this report: In US, 25% of mobile web users BROWSE ONLY ON THEIR PHONES, never using a laptop, tablet, or desktop to access the Internet.

    25% is pretty big, quite promising for MMB.
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