Sonic List Builder Review

12 years ago

I too am very curious on this one. I have been struggling to build my list to a point where I can start some real ad swaps. If anyone gets in on this please post a review. I'm going to give it a try and will post review soon. I'm very skeptic as well, but if it can get me a list going, I'm hoping I can leverage it into something I can build from. Any thoughts?

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KGee

12 years ago

Wow! I have not bought this, but I can see on CBEngine it has a 33.71% refund rate and that is from when it was first released on Nov. 11, 2011 until now.

So I will be steering clear of this one unless someone who has bought posts proof of great success with it.

For me it's a pass for now.

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Yoseff

12 years ago

I signed up for their service last week, neat idea, but I'm not sure if it will work ot not. The way it is set up is with the primary offer they build you two squeeze pages a day, if you step up to the oto they doublt this, so you get four squeeze pages a day. Next you sign up for a few different media sites and they use these to build backlinks to your squeeze pages...

They obviously have software that does all this, they provide you the links to your squeeze pages and links. The biggest downside I have with it all is you must use getresponse for this (I use aweber, had to sign up with getresponse for the service). This is day three and I have 5 squeeze pages, 12 backlinks, AND ZERO opt-ins.

I have no problem giving this a few weeks to see if it works or not as I don't expect immediate results, time will tell.

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jonj31070 12 years ago

Thank you Yoseff! Would you mind letting us know how this works out for you in the coming weeks? I'm really curious to see if this is worth it.
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wymetto

12 years ago

3 days is not enough time to tell - please let us know in about 3 weeks - thanks for your response - we are all watching...

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cderenberger

12 years ago

I've been using Sonic List builder for 13 days now.. got 1 squeeze page a day.. here they are..

(These are to show you the kind of squeeze pages SLB makes.. please don't subscribe to any of them)

earnfreemoneyonline.info/form.php?id=17315
earnextramoneyonlinemethods.info/form.php?id=15570
earnextracashonlinesecret.info/form.php?id=13859
earneasymoneyonlinesecret.info/form.php?id=12171
earncashonlineblueprint.info/form.php?id=10171
bestpayingjobsinthefuture.com/form.php?id=7367
topjobsinfuture.com/form.php?id=6084
topcareersforthefuturelist.com/form.php?id=4960
top10jobsfuture.com/form.php?id=3756
hottestjobsforthefuture.com/form.php?id=2768
futurejobsindemand.com/form.php?id=1801
bestjobsinfuture.com/form.php?id=1072
bestitjobsforthefuture.com/form.php?id=593

Also have 33 backlinks from video and slideshow sites... Have a total of 35 subscribers and been getting 2-3 a day for past couple days.

So far it's been totally hands-off and I'm impressed. I'm anxiously waiting until I have all 90 squeeze pages..

I've set up autoresponder emails and made 1 sale so far from the 35.. not bad.

The only thing I don't like is that you HAVE to have GetResponse. I have been using Aweber for years and now have to also have GR? I assume he makes 33% monthly recurring commissions if you sign up through his affiliate link for GR which might be the purpose behind the whole product.

Either way, it seems to be working well and I've already got my money back..

Hope that helps!
Chris

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bougalo

12 years ago

Originally Posted by cderenberger

I've been using Sonic List builder for 13 days now.. got 1 squeeze page a day.. here they are..

(These are to show you the kind of squeeze pages SLB makes.. please don't subscribe to any of them)

earnfreemoneyonline.info/form.php?id=17315
earnextramoneyonlinemethods.info/form.php?id=15570
earnextracashonlinesecret.info/form.php?id=13859
earneasymoneyonlinesecret.info/form.php?id=12171
earncashonlineblueprint.info/form.php?id=10171
bestpayingjobsinthefuture.com/form.php?id=7367
topjobsinfuture.com/form.php?id=6084
topcareersforthefuturelist.com/form.php?id=4960
top10jobsfuture.com/form.php?id=3756
hottestjobsforthefuture.com/form.php?id=2768
futurejobsindemand.com/form.php?id=1801
bestjobsinfuture.com/form.php?id=1072
bestitjobsforthefuture.com/form.php?id=593

Also have 33 backlinks from video and slideshow sites... Have a total of 35 subscribers and been getting 2-3 a day for past couple days.

So far it's been totally hands-off and I'm impressed. I'm anxiously waiting until I have all 90 squeeze pages..

I've set up autoresponder emails and made 1 sale so far from the 35.. not bad.

The only thing I don't like is that you HAVE to have GetResponse. I have been using Aweber for years and now have to also have GR? I assume he makes 33% monthly recurring commissions if you sign up through his affiliate link for GR which might be the purpose behind the whole product.

Either way, it seems to be working well and I've already got my money back..

Hope that helps!
Chris

Do all the domain names have that "form.php?id=" at the end?
How in the world are you going to optimize that for the Search engines?
Do you get to pick your own domain names, Niches, etc...?

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Richard Crooke

12 years ago

The 33% refund rate is your answer. Plus, they sales video never showed you an opt-in list.

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cedricl

12 years ago

I signed up this weekend. 4 optins by now. No opens of follow-up email. I will give it a month :-)

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Legend Dude

12 years ago

Yeah, I signed up the first day it came out. So far I have 14 subscribers and 8 squeezepages. I will say that it was very easy to setup, only takes about 10-30 minutes depending on whether or not you have accounts already. The instructions are very thorough and newbie friendly. I'd imagine the people who refunded were people who were looking to make some fast cash and as we all know building an email list takes time. It's true they didn't show an optin list and I too wonder about that, but I'm going to go ahead and put my trust in this system. Today at 9:00 pm there is a members-only webinar that aims to answer questions being asked like how long it will take to get a large email list. So I'm looking forward to that.

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slim182

12 years ago

sounds interesting, please let us know the results!

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cedricl

12 years ago

7 subsribers. 1 opened my follow up email & subscribed to my "real" squeeze page of my offer

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slim182

12 years ago

this sounds interesting, just signed up, lets hope it works!, if not well, we can always request a refund...

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slim182

12 years ago

Ok, here is an update, 13 Squeeze Pages Created for me so far, 5 subscribers, no sales, added some follow ups emails, I can see 2 unsubscribed lol. Lets see if I'm lucky and it starts to work...

There were 2 workshops in the members area, some good information in there, at least for me, (i'm new to email marketing).

The 3rd one was actually a fishy one, was reading about it on some blogs, it was actually a webinar with a guy showing his "cool system" to make tons of money (yeah sure) saying 20 times it was live and that he never shared it with nobody, and that this was his first webinar (but still people already wrote about it a month ago, lol) and by the end of the webinar he says he will sell only 10 copies for 997$ each or something... I also read people complaining about it and never getting their money back... So well, I don't know, it just doesn't feel right...

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jamesbgr

12 years ago

Originally Posted by slim182

Ok, here is an update, 13 Squeeze Pages Created for me so far, 5 subscribers, no sales, added some follow ups emails, I can see 2 unsubscribed lol. Lets see if I'm lucky and it starts to work...

There were 2 workshops in the members area, some good information in there, at least for me, (i'm new to email marketing).

The 3rd one was actually a fishy one, was reading about it on some blogs, it was actually a webinar with a guy showing his "cool system" to make tons of money (yeah sure) saying 20 times it was live and that he never shared it with nobody, and that this was his first webinar (but still people already wrote about it a month ago, lol) and by the end of the webinar he says he will sell only 10 copies for 997$ each or something... I also read people complaining about it and never getting their money back... So well, I don't know, it just doesn't feel right...

I'm guessing it was the YouTube software by some guy called Paul Ponna. i was on a recorded webinar the other day. different membership site. seems a few people are promoting what looks to be a shady overpriced software. you will also find that once the ten copies sell out, the counter resets to 3 in the special link used in the webinar, while the main site says it is closed. Very deceptive imo.

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slim182

12 years ago

yep that is the one... I mean, come on, they could at least be honest

not telling you all the crap of, this is a live webinar, this is my first webinar, etc

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sundown16

12 years ago

the jury's out
we'll keep our eyeballs on this one
I hope it works.. I like auto pilot

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jambaman2 12 years ago

It's been almost SIX MONTHS now. The jury isn't back yet?
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Reki

12 years ago

If you opt out the first time, it comes to a page where the content is listed in writing. If you opt out yet again, you get a, It´s free! There´s no stopping you now!
If you add you e-mail in the opt-in, the next page you get to says this:

Grab the Sonic System Now & I'll Throw In Your
Very Own DEDICATED ACCOUNT Manager...
At ZERO COST!
This Upgrade costs $297 but I want you to have it right now because I want to insure you reach your goals quickly.
PLUS, I'll even top that by giving you an additional 30% OFF The Sonic System just for you!
Get SONIC Now for Just $27
AND get your very own...
DEDICATED ACCOUNT MANAGER (That's a $297 value you can't pass up!).

I haven´t tried this yet, since I´m a bit sceptical about it and the refund-rate. Has anyone had any longer experience with this?

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Janus

12 years ago

Did this as a total newbie (not even a working website). Just bought the basics without the multiplier upgrade nor the autoresponder sequence. Made a big mistake as I was thinking it was kind of hokey and didn't think much of it so I didn't follow through.

My mistake was in not really following it through as I eventually received around 260 sign ups. Since I didn't pursue they were all wasted and have no idea of what I could have done with them had I believed and been ready to market them.

It does take time for it to get rolling. I got 1 to 2 per day to start then around 3 to 5 after a month, the next month it kept increasing with a handful of 20 to 40 per day results. All the blame is on me.

I'm actually thinking about signing up again and going with the multiplier and AR message sequences.

Not sure what the current prices are or if it has changed since March. Hope that helps some of you. Do recommend you have a plan in place to begin your marketing efforts with the sign ups you get. Do this ahead of time before they start rolling in.

Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Best of luck.

Pat

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ZakB 12 years ago

Thank you Janus for your feedback.
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Janus

11 years ago

Want to hear a really sad story that updates my previous post. It's really too embarrassing to post but thought you should have the full truth.

You probably won't believe this but it turns out the actual number of subscribers accumulated during my trial was 15,250 per GetResponse. Can't think of anything except how painful it is to realize that I threw all that away.

GetResponse kept sending out emails (which I ignored) saying I had exceeded my 250 limit. They give you the chance to upgrade and unlock those over 250 for 90 days before being permanently deleted (well its way past that now).

Sad but true.

Pat

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zanderzone

11 years ago

Hi Guys and Girls,
I am waiting for a response from them now. I bought the list builder and the results were amazing and fast for both sign ups and opens. I went out for awhile with my back and now I'm told that it's $149 for a 90 day subscription. When I bought it I was told that it was a one time payment. So I am now waiting to see what they tell me.

Zanderzone

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zanderzone

11 years ago

Hi again, I finally got a response from SLB. I am also sending a copy of this to SLB.
Hi,
I paid for the service and it was great....at first. I had to get back surgery and so I turned off my get response account until I came back online. I was gone for about 3 months. When I came back I was told that my sonic account was inactive and would cost me $149 to reactivate. The video here : Scroll Page For Complete Details CLEARLY states that this is a ONE TIME PAYMENT with no monthly charges or re-billing EVER!

When they finally did return my email ( I found a number to call them and their support guy claimed he didn't know Squat and I had to wait for an email from support(?)) As you can see from the video, they clearly state that there are NO MORE payments ever! Kevin also states in his video that he is a "straight talker" (REALLY?) here is the JV page which also doesn't mention any re-billing: JV Page.
Here is their response:
Tue, Jan 15 2013 11:49am - Admin Admin
Hello,

We are fairly certain that the language in the video only applies to a single service period. Reactivating an account is essentially purchasing the product a second time while keeping and using your existing account.

It does not mention the price, but the Terms Of Service does mention the 90-day limit and renewal periods. You should be able to find the link for the terms of service at the bottom of the selling video page and at the bottom of the SLB login page.

Excerpt:
"Sonic List Builder is an advertising service where it provides you advertising space on one or more of 180 company owned advertising URL's for the sole and specific purpose of placing your own GetResponse.com Newsletter Subscriber Opt-in form code within that ad space for 90 days and any successive renewal period thereafter. Sonic List Builder will continously promote its 180 advertising URL's throughout high traffic websites for the purpose of driving traffic to its 180 destination URL's."

-Sonic support team

Here is the link for their TOS and NOWHERE does it mention $149 re-billing : http://www.soniclistbuilder.com/termsofservice.html

Now...If I want to continue it will cost me $149....Shame on you Kevin Greene! I would not call that "straight talk". You can watch the videos for yourself and make your own choice but it is all there plain as day. Obviously their support doesn't know anything about their products. You see I received the same message for their commission robotics 9pay us more money) which as you can see is advertised on the same page as SLB:
SonicListBuilder.com Affiliate Page Commission Robotics
Here was that response:
Sorry, but this support team does not know anything about Commission Robotics.
-Sonic support team

I myself will be coming off of ANY list from Kevin Greene and will warn my list about him also. ( I don't do business this way, but I'm guessing that since you are teaching us "your methods" of list building, you expect me to treat my customers the same way?)...That's not going to happen. I'm sure you will be seeing this "review from me in several more review sites and forums as I am a member of several. Stay away from this. While I did say that it was a good product...at first, in my opinion working online now for several years, if someone is this duplicitous about one thing, there are always more down the pike. I am sending a copy of this to support at SLB as well. All of these links were working as of today so if they don't work now they were taken down for obvious reasons.

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hotlinks

11 years ago

Thank you Janus for your feedback.

Originally Posted by zanderzone

Hi again, I finally got a response from SLB. I am also sending a copy of this to SLB.
Hi,
I paid for the service and it was great....at first. I had to get back surgery and so I turned off my get response account until I came back online. I was gone for about 3 months. When I came back I was told that my sonic account was inactive and would cost me $149 to reactivate. The video here : Scroll Page For Complete Details CLEARLY states that this is a ONE TIME PAYMENT with no monthly charges or re-billing EVER!

When they finally did return my email ( I found a number to call them and their support guy claimed he didn't know Squat and I had to wait for an email from support(?)) As you can see from the video, they clearly state that there are NO MORE payments ever! Kevin also states in his video that he is a "straight talker" (REALLY?) here is the JV page which also doesn't mention any re-billing: JV Page.
Here is their response:
Tue, Jan 15 2013 11:49am - Admin Admin
Hello,

We are fairly certain that the language in the video only applies to a single service period. Reactivating an account is essentially purchasing the product a second time while keeping and using your existing account.

It does not mention the price, but the Terms Of Service does mention the 90-day limit and renewal periods. You should be able to find the link for the terms of service at the bottom of the selling video page and at the bottom of the SLB login page.

Excerpt:
"Sonic List Builder is an advertising service where it provides you advertising space on one or more of 180 company owned advertising URL's for the sole and specific purpose of placing your own GetResponse.com Newsletter Subscriber Opt-in form code within that ad space for 90 days and any successive renewal period thereafter. Sonic List Builder will continously promote its 180 advertising URL's throughout high traffic websites for the purpose of driving traffic to its 180 destination URL's."

-Sonic support team

Here is the link for their TOS and NOWHERE does it mention $149 re-billing : http://www.soniclistbuilder.com/termsofservice.html

Now...If I want to continue it will cost me $149....Shame on you Kevin Greene! I would not call that "straight talk". You can watch the videos for yourself and make your own choice but it is all there plain as day. Obviously their support doesn't know anything about their products. You see I received the same message for their commission robotics 9pay us more money) which as you can see is advertised on the same page as SLB:
SonicListBuilder.com Affiliate Page Commission Robotics
Here was that response:
Sorry, but this support team does not know anything about Commission Robotics.
-Sonic support team

I myself will be coming off of ANY list from Kevin Greene and will warn my list about him also. ( I don't do business this way, but I'm guessing that since you are teaching us "your methods" of list building, you expect me to treat my customers the same way?)...That's not going to happen. I'm sure you will be seeing this "review from me in several more review sites and forums as I am a member of several. Stay away from this. While I did say that it was a good product...at first, in my opinion working online now for several years, if someone is this duplicitous about one thing, there are always more down the pike. I am sending a copy of this to support at SLB as well. All of these links were working as of today so if they don't work now they were taken down for obvious reasons.

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sunonpath

11 years ago

Dear Friends,

My experience with Sonic was not good. This is a Sonic Support Ticket I just got!
**********
Subject: you are ignoring me, yes I read the PDFs and Watched Videos 1-2-3

Fri, Feb 8 2013 1:33pm

I have tried to get my questions answered
since I started and no one answers me.

.................................................. ............................
I have a few people (25) in my autoresponder
now from your squeezes page that say:

"Enter your name and valid email address
below for instant access to this video"

"...watch how we can set up your own proven
done for you Online Money Maker now. "

"In this 3 part video series I'm giving you..."

"FREE! "100% Automated High Monthly Income Generator""

(etc)
.................................................. .................................

So what should I be sending my subscribers
for fullfillment????

You have NOT told me where to find the
"24Nurture & Cultivate email series"
Where are they, so I can load the autoresponder!

There are only a few in PDF... do you want me to
send those out? None of those emails will take
the leads to videos... Help please!

David Shaw

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Mon, Feb 11 2013 2:30pm - Admin Admin

Hello,

There is no video. The squeeze pages are just designed to convince people to sign up to your list. Some of the products you can offer subscribers contain video promotions or videos in their product.

The letters from the workshop PDF were examples from a series of letters from an older version of Sonic List Builder. We no longer have the full series available for sale.

-Sonic support team

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*********

This memo was on my home page when I logged in just now:

MY ACCOUNT STATUS: INACTIVE
WARNING Your Account Is Inactive
CLICK HERE Now To REACTIVATE

They want me to REACTIVATE for $97 per month!

After 12 days a total of 50 BUNK NAMES!

What a coincidence!...
Are these real names?
actual examples:

josephe.salazar
josephdarden3
josephdunn63
josephellis52269
josephdaigle19

kevin_boots31
kevin_knuckles1
kevin_eli_ortiz
kevin_garcia1344
kevin_mueller32

j.slaughter51
j.tanabomb
j.stevenson47
j.speas
j.starnes
j.singleton3003

All these emails were @hotmail, msm, yahoo, gmail...

I give up on these people! Lucky for me it didn't cost
me any money! Just a lot of time! I did learn a bunch though!

David
Better luck to all, many blessings!

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Alba44

11 years ago

I set up my account on 4th february 2013 and have had several subscribers too after workshop 1 you should have gone to the link to get the pdf file there were 3 nuturing emails and you should have set those up in the get response account that is all he gives you as yes your right there are not more. Second video gave you 3 selling emails to put as your follow up here you can either use the products he suggests for find your own via affiliate programs. Did you watch workshop 3 and workshop 4? I am doing workshop 4 today. I really hope this all works. The workshops have been helpful.

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jambaman2

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alba44

I set up my account on 4th february 2013... The workshops have been helpful.

I'd be interested if you actually had any SALES!

Sonic List Builder seems to be a way to make money for Kevin Greene from Get Response affiliate sales...

I have just done two months with SLB so I am quite familiar, IF anyone is interested.

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Axeslinger

11 years ago

I tried this program. I did not pay for it. There are two exit pops and the second one will let you in for free.

Basically you sign up for SlideShare, Scribd, YouTube, and DailyMotion. They are supposed to add content for you and drive traffic to your squeeze pages which they create for you.

The squeeze pages usually offer free training videos or "free instant income generator."

The first couple of days I had 0 opt-ins. After that I started getting several every day. I now have 65 contacts on my list, but ZERO% open rate.

I contacted support because I thought maybe I was supposed to have my autoresponder loaded with the free training videos mentioned on the squeeze page and told them it was deceptive if I didn't really have anything to offer them. But I just got back a response that said "we do not have such videos to give you."

Also, I cannot figure out where these squeeze pages are located. I thought the purpose of signing up for these social sites was for them to add content, but I logged into all of my accounts and there is nothing there.

I think the whole program was designed so they could get you to sign up for GetResponse.

The program works in so much as you will get optins but they are unresponsive leads.

Anyway, that's my experience. I will most likely be cancelling my GetResponse account before the trial ends.

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jambaman2 11 years ago

You have a zero open rate because you didn't send them anything to open!

SLB first just sets you up with lead pages linked to your GR account.

You then have to add ems to your GR account.

This is all explained in the video workshop series 1-4.

He explains quite well how SLB works and some concepts of em marketing as well.

Then they will then try to sell you on their $1000 setup deal where they setup a ONE YEAR series of emails for you.
There's also a $100 deal they'll be selling you on.

I don't know exactly how responsive the list is since I've only been sending a few ems so far... But I have gotten opens and clicks.

But yes, I do think the main thrust is to get aff commissions for your GR signup!
On the other hand, if the list is unresponsive and no one gets sales, they wouldn't continue with their GR account.
So it's obviously in their best interests to get you in profit!

I have been averaging about 30 signups per day and now have about 3,000 members after only a few months.

The only issue for me is if I can get sales enough to justify the cost involved.
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- Axeslinger 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jambaman2
  
  You have a zero open rate because you didn't send them anything to open!
  
  I did send them something to open. I used my own emails. LOL I guess I should have made that more clear.
  
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  jambaman2 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Axeslinger
  
  I did send them something to open. I used my own emails. LOL I guess I should have made that more clear.
  
  Ok, perhaps I should have asked you what you sent them to open!
  
  Anyway, SLB and others have quite a few email series that I have been using.
  I definitely got opens and clicks.
  
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  Axeslinger 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jambaman2
  
  Well, they and others have quite a few email series that I have been using.
  I definitely got opens and clicks.
  
  Interesting. I've been following the workshop videos and setting up my account and emails as recommended, but it doesn't seem to be working for me. I guess I'll have to do some tweaks.
  
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jambaman2

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Axeslinger

...The first couple of days I had 0 opt-ins. After that I started getting several every day...
Also, I cannot figure out where these squeeze pages are located...

I got optins within 3 hours of setup completion!
Since then it's been non-stop, about 30 opt-ins per day.

The squeeze page urls are located on your home page at SLB.

I don't worry about the content they supposedly created on various sites - the only relevant issues are opt-ins and SALES!

You Do get the opt-ins... You will get opens and clicks if/when you send good emails.
Sales?
Different story!

But, I did take advantage of their 12 week pre-written email series offer so that my signups are now getting a regular series of emails being sent to them.

The issue after that is getting an emails series in place that will get you sales.
They do offer their 1 year completely done4u, pre-written email series for ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS!!!

You have to really consider: Though you don't have to continue to pay for SLB with the $1000 deal, you WILL have to pay for a VERY LARGE email list - they get your list to over 25,000 in just two months with this deal.
That means you'll be paying $145 per month for GR when you reach 25K members...
BUT ALSO!
You'll still be getting new signups... the instant you go OVER 25K members, your GR account will cost you $250 per month!

That's $250 per month for 10 months!!!

So, I don't advise the $1000 deal until you start getting enough sales to justify your GR and SLB costs.

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Axeslinger

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jambaman2

The squeeze page urls are located on your home page at SLB.

I know the squeeze pages are on the dashboard but what I meant was where they are located on the internet. Where is this traffic coming from?

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jambaman2

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Axeslinger

I know the squeeze pages are on the dashboard but what I meant was where they are located on the internet. Where is this traffic coming from?

I got that.
The traffic is definitely coming from the network of sites you joined.

BUT, clicks and sales are the only thing that matters!

You can't do anything about what they post where, so why worry about it?

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Axeslinger

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jambaman2

I got that.
The traffic is definitely coming from the network of sites you joined.

BUT, clicks and sales are the only thing that matters!

You can't do anything about what they post where, so why worry about it?

Exactly. I wanted to know the source of the traffic so I could determine why I wasn't getting clicks and sales.

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jambaman2

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Axeslinger

Exactly. I wanted to know the source of the traffic so I could determine why I wasn't getting clicks and sales.

With only 65 members??

I think you should first concentrate on getting a sizable list and some well written emails to send to them.

You also have to "warm up" your list with what's called "nurturing" emails, for a while before hitting them with sales - but that's just me, and what experts have told me!

They won't really buy from you if they don't even know you...

AND, whatever email list builder you use, you will need these things anyway

There are quite a few sources of nurturing emails for you to use.

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Axeslinger

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jambaman2

With only 65 members??

I think you should first concentrate on getting a sizable list and some well written emails to send to them.

You also have to "warm up" your list with what's called "nurturing" emails, for a while before hitting them with sales - but that's just me, and what experts have told me!

They won't really buy from you if they don't even know you...

AND, whatever email list builder you use, you will need these things anyway

There are quite a few sources of nurturing emails for you to use.

Well on my Aweber account, I built two small lists of about 15 each with a couple of solo ads on Safe-Swaps. I've already made 3 sales from them. 2 of them were from my one time offer and one of them was from a broadcast e-mail. I have good open rates as well.

The quality of the traffic is extremely important. That's why I was curious how people are finding these squeeze pages.

He's the only person I've heard talk about the Nurture and Cultivate concept. Others say promote in every e-mail every single day. At the end of the day it's all about numbers and testing. So far, I've had better results with paid traffic.

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jambaman2

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Axeslinger

He's the only person I've heard talk about the Nurture and Cultivate concept. Others say promote in every e-mail every single day. At the end of the day it's all about numbers and testing. So far, I've had better results with paid traffic.

Yes... I believe in paid traffic as well.

As for numbers and testing, you have to also include the prices paid and time involved!
I've yet to run into ANYONE who is willing to be fully candid about this.

His "nurture" emails get about a 6% open rate so I'm not sold on it yet - but I've heard of several people using that tactic successfully.

I really hate being emailed every day - some marketers email 3 and 4 times per day.

Personally, I don't buy from someone unless I've gotten to know them a bit - AND they don't send me sooo many emails everyday!

The offers are mostly bogus - especially when they do that, so I just wind up opting out.

For now, I have an arrangement that takes care of the costs involved so I'm willing to give it a go.

But for the record, I too feel these subscribers are not very responsive, but I do get some response...!

As I said, I believe KG is making out with GR affiliate income.
Anything else is gravy!

I'll try this... for a while.
As long as the price is right for me.

But as for me, I've never gotten sales from such a small list as you mentioned, so you must be doing something right!

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Axeslinger

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jambaman2

Yes... I believe in paid traffic as well.

As for numbers and testing, you have to also include the prices paid and time involved!
I've yet to run into ANYONE who is willing to be fully candid about this.

His "nurture" emails get about a 6% open rate so I'm not sold on it yet - but I've heard of several people using that tactic successfully.

I really hate being emailed every day - some marketers email 3 and 4 times per day.

Personally, I don't buy from someone unless I've gotten to know them a bit - AND they don't send me sooo many emails everyday!

The offers are mostly bogus - especially when they do that, so I just wind up opting out.

For now, I have an arrangement that takes care of the costs involved so I'm willing to give it a go.

But for the record, I too feel these subscribers are not very responsive, but I do get some response...!

As I said, I believe KG is making out with GR affiliate income.
Anything else is gravy!

I'll try this... for a while.
As long as the price is right for me.

But as for me, I've never gotten sales from such a small list as you mentioned, so you must be doing something right!

I understand how you feel. I usually don't buy from someone until I know who they are, but sometimes I buy anyway if the offer is compelling enough.

I'm getting ready to do a new solo ad on Safe Swaps but I wanted to test how a new SLO would convert before I bought the ad... I sent out two broadcasts, one last night and one this morning and pulled in 2 sales off of those two lists I mentioned before.

I'm pretty new to this stuff but that's the fifth sale I've made this month after having never made a single sale before. I've been trying to do this stuff on and off for years but I think I'm finally figuring it all out.

Sonic List Builder may be legit and may work if my funnel was set up properly but I think I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing before I spend any money on it.

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zanderzone 11 years ago

Hi Janus, if you read my post, you will see that you can't re-sign, you can only re-ativate...for $149 every 90 days. See what their response was to me re-signing. It is a good service, but it's just the bullshit that come with it. Since starting out with this I have been ripped off to the tune of around $11,000 from other people in similar fashion and I've been done with being lied to and ripped off.

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- tthumpa88 11 years ago
  
  What has happened to there website, i cannot login?, help somebody
  
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  Hi tthumpa88, since I sent them the last email with the copy of my review and told them that I was posting it in every forum or review about them that I could find, they have not responded and my ticket is closed.
  
  When I initially mailed them and asked why I could not log in it was because they wanted the $149 to re-activate my membership.
  
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LeQuadrillage

11 years ago

Well, I've had Sonic List Builder for a month now and it's produced nothing. The system has performed as promised. They have set up three monetized domains - which have produced nothing, a list of more than 2000 has been acquired and is growing daily, and a good group of nurturing and follow up emails has been uploaded to the list. So on the surface, everything looks terrific.

But if you'll look at the squeeze pages they use to get opt-ins, you'll see immediately that they're deceptive; luring subscribers by implying that they'll be looking at a work at home job offer.

Since this isn't the case, the open rates suck! I've never worked a list with such lousy open rates. So very few clicks and no conversions.

To me,this was five hundred bucks thrown into the trash can.

Even though the system does what it says it will.

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jambaman2 11 years ago

Yep, Sonic List Builder SUX!
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1thSupernova

11 years ago

agree, i used it for 59 days and I got my money back from Click Bank, i built a list of 600 subscribers , not a single sales, interesting part is that names are so alphabetic follow each other that you wonder if the list is real people, my suggestion will be, do not waste your time with this.

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ShortCircut5

11 years ago

I was also a part of Sonic List Builder. I stopped after my list was at 2500. I have been able to make some sales through this list. I do keep in tough with them and only market to this list when I have something I feel would benefit them. Basically the list is a make money online group, at least it is for me. I should have stayed with them longer to add another 2500 to this list but I didn't. There needs to be more activity with this list in order to progress further only after having a couple of operations I'm only starting to get back into the swing of things.

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LeQuadrillage

11 years ago

Originally Posted by chaoslinker007

Any opinions on that? in my opinion this is just another one of that scams..anyone purchased it?

I bought SLB. Five hundred bucks into the trash can. They do what they say they will: tie you to the major social networks, set up three "monetized" websites, generate a list that will average around a thousand a month for a year - to more than 12,000 names.

So, the links were established, the 3 subdomains were set up on Hostgator (I had to buy Hostgator), and the mailing list was set up on Get Response (I had to buy Get Response) and the list was commenced.

I received a steady increase in list names. My list from them stands at over 2,000 after roughly two months and it's growing daily. That's good, right?

But the open rate sucks. My broadcasts average about 2% opens when I'm accustomed to about 13% opens. I checked a little deeper and found that the squeeze pages they're using to collect the names are deceptive. They imply a job offer.

The "monetized" sites haven't produced a dime. In my view, Sonic List Builder is worthless

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surfdan

10 years ago

Originally Posted by LeQuadrillage

I bought SLB. Five hundred bucks into the trash can. They do what they say they will: tie you to the major social networks, set up three "monetized" websites, generate a list that will average around a thousand a month for a year - to more than 12,000 names.

So, the links were established, the 3 subdomains were set up on Hostgator (I had to buy Hostgator), and the mailing list was set up on Get Response (I had to buy Get Response) and the list was commenced.

I received a steady increase in list names. My list from them stands at over 2,000 after roughly two months and it's growing daily. That's good, right?

But the open rate sucks. My broadcasts average about 2% opens when I'm accustomed to about 13% opens. I checked a little deeper and found that the squeeze pages they're using to collect the names are deceptive. They imply a job offer.

The "monetized" sites haven't produced a dime. In my view, Sonic List Builder is worthless

LeQuadrillage, Do you mind if I ask how you get your 13% opens? List swaps?
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Dan

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