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Old 04-02-2012, 11:59 PM   #1
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I recently reviewed the "Bring The Fresh" product after purchasing it along with upgrades/oto's. I gave an honest and legitimate review based upon my own opinions.

Needless to say, the major players in that group each took a turn at me. It was sad at worst, and amusing at best.

The condensed version of my review for that product is this:

If you are brand new, you might get something out of it (but you'll do better just getting a warrior pro membership).

If on the other hand you have been involved in internet marketing for more than 10 minutes, don't waste your time on their product.

While it is certainly a great sales letter, it is true to "rich jerk" form... It is only a sales letter and nothing of value on the inside.

On the bright side - I do not bend to strong arm tactics such as those used against me. I provided a true and accurate assessment of their sub standard product. Take my review as you will.
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I must admit I like the style of Bring The Fresh - the whole over the shoulder approach. And the Video Jacking and Launch Jacking modules they have updated are quite good. The flaw for me is that there is a lot of content - and even with the "Roadmap" - the modules don't flow that well. i.e. if you are a complete beginner it can be a bit confusing. But I think there is enough "value" in there. It is just finding the good stuff.
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I recently reviewed the "Bring The Fresh" product after purchasing it along with upgrades/oto's. I gave an honest and legitimate review based upon my own opinions.

If you are brand new, you might get something out of it (but you'll do better just getting a warrior pro membership).

If on the other hand you have been involved in internet marketing for more than 10 minutes, don't waste your time on their product.

While it is certainly a great sales letter, it is true to "rich jerk" form... It is only a sales letter and nothing of value on the inside.

On the bright side - I do not bend to strong arm tactics such as those used against me. I provided a true and accurate assessment of their sub standard product. Take my review as you will.
Brutal, I just wanted to point out that you forgot to mention here that you also posted in our WSO thread that you make your money online from spamming (your words not mine), and you even mentioned that you you have scammed people in the past (your words, not mine). You mentioned you had decided to stop doing that, which I say "kudos" to you for. I think thats a smart move.

Also congrats on joining Warrior Forum a few days ago!

And just to clarify, when you say "nothing of value on the inside", I certainly hope you aren't implying that members like Greg Morrison, who has sent us screenshots of earning over $900k in the last 7 months, are lying. Or Rob Jones who has earned over $100k, or Rick Rivera who has earned over $400k, or Mike Swanson who has earned over $500k, or Kris Mianieri who has earned over $100k... or the other hundreds of folks who have earned $100's or $1,000's, and whose earnings we have had verified by a 7 time emmy nominated investigative journalist that we hired in case the FTC ever comes knocking.

I certainly hope you aren't implying that those folks didn't make those earnings after learning our materials. I know hundreds of these guys personally, and again you joined the warrior forum a couple of days ago, and your first post was to slam Bring the Fresh. You honestly sound more like a competitor with sour grapes, and I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you. Your only posts on Warrior Forum thus far have been bashing Bring the Fresh. That makes me sad for you

But good luck with your future endeavors and I truly hope you have success! I recommend you stop dwelling on our product and perhaps you can find another target?
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Old 04-05-2012, 01:36 PM   #4
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Brutal, I just wanted to point out that you forgot to mention here that you also posted in our WSO thread that you make your money online from spammeing (your words not mine), and you even mentioned that you you have scammed people in the past (your words, not mine). You mentioned you had decided to stop doing that, which I say "kudos" to you for. I think thats a smart move.

However, I think the spammer/scammer mentality is definitely not a good fit for what we do at Bring the Fresh, and I can definitely see why you don't like our materials! I recommend checking out a site like Black Hat World. You would likely fit in well there.

Also congrats on joining Warrior Forum a few days ago!

And just to clarify, when you say "nothing of value on the inside", I certainly hope you aren't implying that members like Greg Morrison, who has sent us screenshots of earning over $900k in the last 7 months, are lying. Or Rob Jones who has earned over $100k, or Rick Rivera who has earned over $400k, or Mike Swanson who has earned over $500k, or Kris Mianieri who has earned over $100k... or the other hundreds of folks who have earned $100's or $1,000's, and whose earnings we have had verified by a 7 time emmy nominated investigative journalist that we hired in case the FTC ever comes knocking.

I certainly hope you aren't implying that those folks didn't make those earnings after learning our materials. I know hundreds of these guys personally, and again you joined the warrior forum a couple of days ago, and your first post was to slam Bring the Fresh. You honestly sound more like a competitor with sour grapes, and I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you. Your only posts on Warrior Forum thus far have been bashing Bring the Fresh. That makes me sad for you

But good luck with your future endeavors and I truly hope you have success! I recommend you stop dwelling on our product and perhaps you can find another target?
Folks who earn tend to make their money by taking action... Action on some thing.

You can badger me until we both turn blue in the face, but your course offers nothing that can't be readily found in just about any IM forum on the net.

I get your argument, I really do... "I put it all together in one place". I used that same argument for years. I always reminded people that they were purchasing my research, and my organizational skills. So, yeah, I really do get where you are at and your position on this.

That still doesn't change the fact that all of the core information you are providing can be found free all over the net. It might not be the information from your personal point of view, but it is none the less the same information.

And yes, I was a dirty marketer. I feel a great deal of shame over that, and that's why I could never again promote or endorse a product like yours... It just wouldn't be honest.

Now, if you were using your product as a simple list building tool and not charging people for it (even peppered with your affiliate links), then I could absolutely get behind you on that and even encourage people to join your list in order to get access to your information because on that level, it has value.

I did not write your sales letter. It wasn't me who made it sound like you had discovered some exciting super-secret new way of making massive money from simple little one-page web sites when in reality there is nothing new available. It wasn't me. It was you.

And we can go back and fourth on this issue until the end of time but it doesn't appear that you'll be changing your position, and I'm pretty certain I wont be changing mine.

When I look at this from a 3rd person perspective, I see good and valid points on each side. So relax, we both know that people aren't dumb. They can (and many will) read our entire exchange, and some will choose not to purchase, but most will still purchase.

The larger point is that at least now they are not getting filled with complete little bunny and unicorn stories - They have a contrast in opinion that they can look at and make a better informed decision.

@Miguelito203 .... No, not really. I'm really not the kind of person who will back away from controversy on any level. I don't necessarily enjoy it, but I'm willing to endure it and respond as needed.

And just as an added tid-bit for any who read this:

Controversy marketing is an extremely powerful tool in an advanced marketers tool-chest, but it's dangerous if it's not tightly controlled.

An example you might be more familiar with is "humor" in marketing. If you "get it", and are near flawless with your delivery and style, you can make massive things happen, but if you slip up, even a little bit, humor can and will kill your entire momentum as well as damage your online persona. (using humor or controversy can be powerful, or devastating and should be avoided by most people).

And as a final note - When/if you ever release a product and you get bad feedback on it, don't attack the person (coming from this position makes you look weak, and people pick up on that), instead attack their position. Find holes in their position and bring those to light. By punching holes in their position you are using logic to destroy their bad review rather than emotion... But again, be careful, because if that persons position is solid, and they are very capable of expressing that position through logic, then each time you attack their position and they counter attack with logic that defends/supports their position, you are opening yourself up to having helped solidify their position than hurting it. This comes down to one of those "Pick your battles" scenarios ... Choose well and you destroy their position while boosting your own, choose poorly however and you will of course get the opposite effect. In many cases (certainly not all) the best move is no move at all. Take a position of "above the noise" and not respond at all. Most of the time that negative post will get buried in the pure volume of the ongoing conversation and go largely ignored. Again. Pick your battles well.
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Well. I like it!
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And as a final note - When/if you ever release a product and you get bad feedback on it, don't attack the person (coming from this position makes you look weak, and people pick up on that), instead attack their position. Find holes in their position and bring those to light. By punching holes in their position you are using logic to destroy their bad review rather than emotion... But again, be careful, because if that persons position is solid, and they are very capable of expressing that position through logic, then each time you attack their position and they counter attack with logic that defends/supports their position, you are opening yourself up to having helped solidify their position than hurting it. This comes down to one of those "Pick your battles" scenarios ... Choose well and you destroy their position while boosting your own, choose poorly however and you will of course get the opposite effect. In many cases (certainly not all) the best move is no move at all. Take a position of "above the noise" and not respond at all. Most of the time that negative post will get buried in the pure volume of the ongoing conversation and go largely ignored. Again. Pick your battles well.
Way too many positions bro.
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Old 06-02-2012, 11:28 PM   #7
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Person's real name vs. anonymous internet moniker.

Guess who is more credible?

Anyone can register a fake troll account and go on a hatchet campaign against any product or service under the sun. Major blackhat tactic of competitors in every industry nowdays.

/the end
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Brutal <---You are mistaken..."Bring the Fresh" is a great product.

I've been a full-time marketer for 3+ years and I still consider it one of the best investments out of the hundreds of IM products I've purchased.

It sounds like you are still in the stage where you believe you should simply make money by joining a program...and not working for it.

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I agree that it IS a good investment that I made. I saw this last week and earlier this morning found glowing reviews of this. Decided to invest after going down to MoneyMart to get the money onto my card for it. Will stay and even upgrade later.
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Ok, guys thanks for review,. I will give a show to their 7 dollar trial. There are several good reviews for example this Bring The Fresh review
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Brutal, I just wanted to point out that you forgot to mention here that you also posted in our WSO thread that you make your money online from spamming (your words not mine), and you even mentioned that you you have scammed people in the past (your words, not mine). You mentioned you had decided to stop doing that, which I say "kudos" to you for. I think thats a smart move.

However, I think the spammer/scammer mentality is definitely not a good fit for what we do at Bring the Fresh, and I can definitely see why you don't like our materials! I recommend checking out a site like Black Hat World. You would likely fit in well there.

Also congrats on joining Warrior Forum a few days ago!

And just to clarify, when you say "nothing of value on the inside", I certainly hope you aren't implying that members like Greg Morrison, who has sent us screenshots of earning over $900k in the last 7 months, are lying. Or Rob Jones who has earned over $100k, or Rick Rivera who has earned over $400k, or Mike Swanson who has earned over $500k, or Kris Mianieri who has earned over $100k... or the other hundreds of folks who have earned $100's or $1,000's, and whose earnings we have had verified by a 7 time emmy nominated investigative journalist that we hired in case the FTC ever comes knocking.

I certainly hope you aren't implying that those folks didn't make those earnings after learning our materials. I know hundreds of these guys personally, and again you joined the warrior forum a couple of days ago, and your first post was to slam Bring the Fresh. You honestly sound more like a competitor with sour grapes, and I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you. Your only posts on Warrior Forum thus far have been bashing Bring the Fresh. That makes me sad for you

But good luck with your future endeavors and I truly hope you have success! I recommend you stop dwelling on our product and perhaps you can find another target?
That's a SMACKDOWN if I ever saw one!
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Man - BTF has a really cheesy sales letter. I guess it's converting for them so they keep it as is. But aside from that goofy sales letter it's a good program.

It will help you get started and yeah I think you can earn money by following their guidance.

The forum is good. I haven't visited in a long time but I bought some link packages off some BTF forum members, great service, good helpful people too.

BTF of Affiliorama if you want to learn how to do Internet Marketing the right way. Both are solid.

But only one has a cheesy sales letter
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i'm a member, too bad you need full disclosure to get the "juicy" stuff, also their "internal sales" is filled with old junk
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i'm a member, too bad you need full disclosure to get the "juicy" stuff, also their "internal sales" is filled with old junk
I'm also a new member of btf as I can't afford the upsells. I agree that they do have some old stuff in there (as they mention in sells letter) but they also have a little up to date stuff in there as well. I just checked my site that I built by btf standards and it's number 8 on the 1st page of google. I could only amagine what damage I could do with upsells! Bring the fresh is fckin awesome!!
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Ranked # 8 right now on 1st page page of google in 4 weeks (slacking included) using bring the fresh. Program ROCKS in my opinion.
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Man - BTF has a really cheesy sales letter. I guess it's converting for them so they keep it as is. But aside from that goofy sales letter it's a good program.

It will help you get started and yeah I think you can earn money by following their guidance.

The forum is good. I haven't visited in a long time but I bought some link packages off some BTF forum members, great service, good helpful people too.

BTF of Affiliorama if you want to learn how to do Internet Marketing the right way. Both are solid.

But only one has a cheesy sales letter
Cheesy? I think it one of the best I've seen. Even though I don't see eye to eye with The Jerk.
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Brutal, I just wanted to point out that you forgot to mention here that you also posted in our WSO thread that you make your money online from spamming (your words not mine), and you even mentioned that you you have scammed people in the past (your words, not mine). You mentioned you had decided to stop doing that, which I say "kudos" to you for. I think thats a smart move.

Also congrats on joining Warrior Forum a few days ago!

And just to clarify, when you say "nothing of value on the inside", I certainly hope you aren't implying that members like Greg Morrison, who has sent us screenshots of earning over $900k in the last 7 months, are lying. Or Rob Jones who has earned over $100k, or Rick Rivera who has earned over $400k, or Mike Swanson who has earned over $500k, or Kris Mianieri who has earned over $100k... or the other hundreds of folks who have earned $100's or $1,000's, and whose earnings we have had verified by a 7 time emmy nominated investigative journalist that we hired in case the FTC ever comes knocking.

I certainly hope you aren't implying that those folks didn't make those earnings after learning our materials. I know hundreds of these guys personally, and again you joined the warrior forum a couple of days ago, and your first post was to slam Bring the Fresh. You honestly sound more like a competitor with sour grapes, and I'm actually starting to feel sorry for you. Your only posts on Warrior Forum thus far have been bashing Bring the Fresh. That makes me sad for you

But good luck with your future endeavors and I truly hope you have success! I recommend you stop dwelling on our product and perhaps you can find another target?
I always say if a fish doesn't want to be caught. Don't take the bait. Don't even bother with an answer just do your own thing, Bring to your customers value, and keep your word. All of the rest will take care of itself.
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Way too many positions bro.
Reminds me of a utility infielder player has many positions to get in the game.
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I wanted to test this Bring the Fresh program out and see if it worked so I got a copy of the print out from the quickstart from a friend and used their process on a Blogger blog that I had that was just kind of sitting out there with no traffic at all.

I added 3 new pieces of content and did no back linking I think the blog has 1 link as of today. But did some onpage seo. Wouldn't you know it that blogger blog as of today has 5 key terms on page 1 for that term and 1 on page 2 and another in the 4th spot on page 3.

All of this has happened since the last week of Feb. It is now the first week of Apr so whats that 5 weeks. And in that time I have made $5.10 in adsense. It's not a killing but this is just a test and the keyword is not all that great.

So what I plan to do was to see if I can start with nothing, and set up a free blog and use the earnings to buy hosting and a domain and keep going till I run out of money or the blog succeeds.

Tonight I am going to write the three copies of an article and follow the one article theiry kind of but without the tools, I am using paragraph spintax and a free text rotator to spin it for me. I will not use any of the tools that are in the course though it would make things easier. But I want to keep this to a from nothing test.

So I will one by one go to the directories and post them by hand one by one. and do the bookmarking with the free version of socialadr.
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i agree with michael hiles.

it is easy to say smack when you are hiding behind no name.

i like both bring the fresh and omg.

i hope other people check them out and decide for themselves.
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I am also interested in Bring The Fresh and have heard mixed reviews on it but mostly positive ones to be honest...
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