WinAtStickyBids

Well..I finally got a response to my email...just an fyi

Yusuf

How was the response? Just curious no problem if you don't want to share.

WinAtStickyBids

I asked for a refund and this is what I got...

Many support departments for many companies take 48-72 hours more to answer support requests particularly with a new lauunch. No one is ignoring you. Why is it you feel so unsatisfied. These are some very very successful marketers with a top notch research and development team, lots of resources, and a desire (via evidence of the coaching & videos & blogs & more) to honestly help their members. That is hard to In fact, where else could that be found. We would hate to see you go as we are proud of our product and have the team to make it very very special and a history of doing exactly that and more. We are focused on the prize and it will be a great ride for all of us.

Hmmmm...no mention of my refund though

rhj12345

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Still down 2:35 MST - No response from tech support.

Well, thats, OK. When my wife finds out I was taken for $2000, I am dead anyway.

.................Hello, Capital One, I would like to report some activity on my credit card?..................crap.

danhughes

As a general rule I am not one to jump on the latest Guru offer. Based on the videos it's capabilities looked really good. Haha.. my other test is to watch the video with the sound down.... if a product still looks good without pitch then maybe it is...

3 days in and *** GC Detective Rocks The Free World *** . I *will* be canceling KeywordSpy and will probably cancel KeyCompete.

If you mainly sell Clickbank products, this probably is NOT the product for you.
If you do regular CPA then you better buy this FAST.

Clickbank:
So there are about 38k results for Clickbank. I haven't dug through them all yet (obviously, lol) but I have made a good dent. There are not that many results that make want to suddenly start pushing an offer. But, IMO that's because direct-linking to typical Clickbank products is a tough sell at best. Obviously it can be done, but in my case the ROI / ROEffort has never made it worth it.

The examples in the videos for cellphone detective / government records etc are not typical clickbank products.
1) They're cheap.
2) Their #1 USP is immediately and easily communicable.
So there is little chance of someone shopping around and it's easy for the prospect to believe that the product can deliver what they want.
It's really hard to convince someone you have no relationship with that they will be a millionaire by Thursday or that Tiger Woods will be calling them for Golf tips by the end of the summer.

Regular CPA:
Oh where to start.....
I am amazed how many people direct link! There are plenty to choose from... I found a direct link that has a PI of 59k!!! I realize that number is subjective at best, but certainly ad / keyword tenure is a good indicator for success especially if it comes from an affiliate.

But for me that is not the real power behind GC Detective...
When you find well performing Keywords / Ads it's pretty simple of find other offers that are being run by that Affiliate.

If your smart you'll be able to come up with a bunch of clues in an Ad URL that will help you find some really actionable data. For example... I'll tell you that Brad Callen is cleaning up with the phrase "Michigan SEO Services" ... well, he would be if anyone actually searched on it... but when they do, he cleans up .

Final Thoughts:
The data is *crazy* fresh... As in a few hours old.
It's easy to use and understand.
It's not soo easy to use that total newbs will suck up the power of this tool anytime soon (I hope).

Competitive Intelligence products are getting really good. It's almost to the point that someone / network / agency is gonna have to do something about this.
Oh... and if you're selling "Totally Hide My Affiliate A$$" ... I'm buying!

4morereferrals

Is this referring to an affiliate link cloaking or similar product?

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John34

Open a dispute/chargeback from your bank (bank which gave u credit card).

Yusuf

Mention that the guarantee says no questions asked if necessary.

WinAtStickyBids

Already doing that, the point is...I shouldn't have to!

WinAtStickyBids

Maybe the support team is busy reading the post inside the GCD forum from pissed off people who would like to know why it's a ghost town inside there, with no help or responses.

Trust me, I'm not the only disappointed buyer.

JunChic

Me too!

I wanted to give Chris the benefit of the doubt but as things are going the way it's now....look bleak. I smell rats. I asked for refund a day ago and no response. I guess I will be calling my CC about the dispute.

Compare to the complaints here and GCD, here is by far nicer. In GCD forum, under the frustrated thread, many unhappy campers there.

bbyau

I have been "sold" by all the hypes surrounding this product. But with so many inputs and comments (negative one), will have to pass this one up !
The worst one is the "No questions asked Refund". How are we going to get it if we have to send email or even getting response like Michele mentioned ?
For PPC Classroom, we can cancel the membership within the membership area.

JunChic

Oh, I forgot to add, for those who bought it on the day of launch and intend to stay.... just so you know, you are charged from the day you purchased regardless how many days you don't have access to GCD.

Check under your account under billing.

danhughes

I wish it was that easy. I cloak, I use SSL (both of which make it harder to prove your legitimacy to Affiliate networks). At the end of the day these tools are SERP scraping. If I human can click it, then a spider can follow it. Not to mention that there is almost always something in the URL that gives you more information. Affiliate ID's, refereral URL, the name of the folder of the script your using. The only things I can think of are expiring links or some kind of distraction /fake link tactic. With both of those you can pretty much give up on Google ever selling you an affordable click.

Yusuf

Not unless Salt Lake City has now become a part of Mexico. Maybe it's a Vonage number? lol

WinAtStickyBids

I have sent in three tickets, and at least a dozen emails...NO response. I received the one smarta** email that I posted...I replied and not a word.
I can chalk this up to a lesson learned...shame on me.

On to the CC company to file the dispute...what a frigging mess!

I hope Chris knows that if he doesn't get off his ___ and make this right, his name is MUD so he better hope he never wants to peddle another product!!!

steveka

You might screw things up and that's understandable at some point, as long as you have the intention to fix these things. If he would have emailed people right off the bat (which he is really good at when the subject is about selling something) and apologized, i am pretty much sure that the pressure would not be this high. But he didn't do that. Because probably he is too busy with drinking mojitos and surfing in Mexico.

Besides, why are you hiding the submit ticket link behind the login page? You have the potential to come up with an idea and your software guys are capable of creating a complicated software, but they are not capable of thinking a very simple thing like "wait, how the customers are gonna communicate with us if they can't login" ? Yeah, right... I guess i am just gonna stay away from all chris carpenter products, eventhough his claim would be about how to print money on demand legally. Well unless he offers 6 months free trial with zero down

WinAtStickyBids

Your not kidding! I just read the thread, and trust me..it's very nice and polite here compared to inside the GCD forum. Funny thing is...no support, no Chris to be found in the forum AS promised in the pre-launch pitch!

JunChic

Called my CCC, and they will investigate. But I can only dispute it after 30days of purchase with all the supported documents that the sellers aren't responsive. You bet I will, plus yours Michele and others'.

The consolation I got from my CCC is that I don't have to pay when my statement comes.

Yusuf

Looks like it wasn't a joke when I said earlier that we may need another type of detective ... hope this works out for everyone, as well as for those of us trying to hold on and pull through.

Purplemagic

So Chris is "out to lunch" when it comes to GCD issues. He is very on the ball though when it comes to promoting other products. Anybody else received his latest email spruiking Mike of the Butterfly club? Why doesn't he acknowledge that this launch has been a monumental stuff up? I made a conscious decision to take the 4 payment option 2 so I could see what was going to be delivered. Glad I did because with the Aussie dollar in the "can" it cost me $860 for payment 1. I learned my lesson on the Arbitrage C debacle and got my refund without a hassle because I had kept their ORIGINAL guarantee. I have Chris's too and intend using it if he doesn't offer a cogent arguement for his lack of response to our concerns. What I'm really angry about is how I allowed myself to feel so trusting towards him. My 2 cents.

guanxk

I do not think that direct linking can bring you very far in internet marketing. Firstly, you would have to goes into a bidding war and you do not have any autonomy of your site. I was thinking that if everyone starts using GCD, it might end up IMers killing each other.

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cymonguk

Just a point on this,I am disappointed on the refund front, I haven't requested one yet, but Frank Kern had this right on the button in his videos.

Fundamentally he said, if the customer complains do not argue with them, do not fight them, refund and move on. In fact his view was that if you refund without any arguments and immediately then they you may even increase trust.

If you come out and say "I am sorry you weren't happy, keep the product for the next 10 days free, and we will refund right away", they might come back, or they might buy from you again in the future.

It is that simple.

Frank had major issues with the first day of MC last year, but he solved quickly and offered a refund straight away to anyone who wasn't happy, NO questions asked

win292

No more good news for this product? It should be a good tool, but....

Brad101

Absolutely agree on that kind of refund policy. It's not worth time and energy arguing.

Brad101

So, are there any GCD fanatics? Does anyone have version 1 of this tool?

Yusuf

GCD 1 was a bomb as well. Read this and this.. it's funny cause people are saying nearly the exact same thing this time around.

Donnie

Think about it folks .....

if there was a product were you could find profitable campaigns and simply clone them, one after another, amassing profits you wouldn't be able to buy it for $2000. It would more likely be marketed to a select group of gurus for at least $50,000 plus a huge monthly fee.

If it were easy to do, $7 per hour employees would be hired to do clone these campaigns, making the software creator tens of millions. Think about what you would do if you discovered a way to make untold fortunes.

That said, I'm sure if you are willing to put in a lot of work, GCD 2.0 will help you immensely. It isn't going to be easy. A lot of work research and talent will be required, things a $7hr employee wouldn't be able to do.

WinAtStickyBids

Well...still no response from any of the support tickets I've sent in, nor emails. Exactly how many emails do they have, and what's the point. They only send things for you to buy. They don't respond to anything! Here's how many I have...
chrisc@gcdetective.com, support-team@gcdetective.com, gcd.chris@gmail.com, support@gcdetective.com, frank@gcdetective.com, chris@gcdetective.com

I have written to them ALL and not one response! I hope anyone wanting to purchase this, will read my post. I think it is SO unprofessional to ignore paying customers concerns. If he or his team had just responded, I wouldn't be this pissed off.

I don't know if anyone understands that feeling, but it is like I've been robbed. I wouldn't have any looked twice at this product if PPC Classroom had not endorsed it.

So disappointing to know that GCD can treat paying customer's like this.

JunChic

Michele, did your CCC offer to credit you the amount when you lodge your dispute.

I don't know how long Chris is going to hide. Does he think he can get away with this? No "F'ing" way. He can't hide forever.

WinAtStickyBids

THIS IS COMFORTING EH...

<chrisc@gcdetective.com>:
216.139.233.194 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.7.17)
Giving up on 216.139.233.194.

<support@gcdetective.com>:
216.139.233.194 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.7.17)
Giving up on 216.139.233.194.

Purplemagic

I can't PM yet so to here is the page I ordered from which has his guarantee at the bottom.

JunChic

You can find it in his TOC
Google Cash Detective Terms of Service

WinAtStickyBids

I have to go through this big hassle of mailing in all of the information to the dispute dept. Then wait 10+ days to get a response...blah blah blah

RED FLAG should have been that I could not purchase through clickbank. At least I would have been able to quickly get a refund.

Yusuf

The Terms of Service are here and they clearly state 30 money back guarantee no questions asked... yet as we see they asked Michele why does she want to leave, so it looks like a violation of the terms on their part.

JunChic

I'm doing both, submit my dispute via email and continue to ask for my refund. $1997 is not a small amount and I'll make sure Chris and his GCD get the ATTENTION they deserved.

WinAtStickyBids

That is correct. Plus, there was NO signature by the person who wrote it to me, no response to the request for the refund, and when I wrote back, telling them to just issue the refund...no response. Not one word!

Chris pitched the forum and how he would be in there and active, answering questions...etc. HA...not one post from him!

Purplemagic

I may be naive and that's why I'm embroiled in this fiasco AKA GCD. I am asking my ccc to put a charge back on my card. I've just received another email from Chris C promoting GoogleCash. Thought I'd click thru to see where it took me. Turns out its Clickbank and another link to PayDotCom. I'm wonderering if they are aware of what is going on with their client? Any thoughts?

JunChic

Can you show us a section of that email (with that link).

Purplemagic

I've just printed out the invoice for my GCD purchase...this invoice is from within the GCD program. It is issued through:

Intelli Response
12126 N. Ridge Rd., Mequon 53092, Wisconsin United States
Call Us: 1-414-397-5133
email: orders @ intelli-response dot com

Now as I'm in Australia I have no idea whether this is one of Chris's companies or is a legit shopping cart providor. Can anyone confirm if they are an independent organisation and if so would contacting them do any good?Your thoughts please.

WinAtStickyBids

When you call that number..it is a personal number that says..."hello, you have reached Steve Scott"

OMGoodness...this is scary!!!

Purplemagic

The following links were at the bottom of an email from Chris Carpenter <chris AT affiliatejackpot dot com> that I received this evening. One takes you to Clickbank and one to PayDot Com


http colon //www dot googlecash.com/preparation/
and
http colon //www dot googlecash.com/index.htm?apid=A100002G&apflag=1&utm_source=learng ooglecash&utm_medium=email&utm_content=news5&utm_c ampaign=gc

Yusuf

Steve Scott is one of the people in GCD, he makes some of the training videos for GCA and also answers support tickets. He posts in the forums as well but not much.

BTW another discrepancy is that GCD was supposed to be limited in quantity, but that clearly is not the case and a proof of that is the "Final Push..." email Chris mailed out saying GCD will close on Monday at midnight. Unless I'm misunderstanding something, that means that between now and Monday midnight if 20,000 people sign up then they're in. So that's a time based limited not a quantity based limit, as opposed to what was stated.

I very well could promote this and make some money but how on earth could I sleep comfortable at night with promoting this mess especially once it has become so obvious? Maybe that part is taught in PPC Classroom, which is managed by the ones who made the most $ in affiliate sales? Pretty sad how there is no responsibility and accountability on behalf of all of the non-guru gurus claiming that they "want to give back" ...

Purplemagic

Check out the Mequon address on Google Maps. Not very "Corporate"

Yusuf

Read this from 2007 when GCD1 was launched and flopped miserably. Discussion about how to get a refund from Chris... 100+ posts. lol

WinAtStickyBids

This is the number on my CC charge... 888-654-0760

It claims to be Google Cash, then it prompts you to hit the # that sends you to the so called "dept" your wanting, then you get "I'm sorry the dept you are trying to reach is unavailable, sending you to voice mail"

What a CROCK!!!

Yusuf

Try HelpDesk Pilot - Help Desk Software.

WinAtStickyBids

WOW....wish I would have seen all of this BEFORE launch day!

Yusuf

Yeah me too The strange part is it seems like they just wrote this yesterday... if the dates weren't on the posts I'd think they're talking about GCD2.

Just have to take it as a lesson to investigate before being convinced by all of the mass control style videos at the pre-sales page. I'm actually trying to get it to work for me so I don't have to request a refund but.. it's not looking good and it's not encouraging that he would even have this type of behavior to begin with.

Scott Ames

Well he did something to tick off Clickbank. When you go to the order link there you get this:

Action is the foundational key to all success. - Pablo Picasso