Google Cash Detective?

The Copy Nazi · 03-23-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Yusuf

There was a thread about this on GCD forums about how people aren't able to get a campaign up with direct linking, not even for testing purposes.

Probably means they have no history/no credibility/and Google doesn't like the **** they're promoting. And talking about GCD - they have no credibility. That guy should take his surfboard and just paddle off into the sunset. He just adds to the general perception that affiliate marketing is a scam.

vic1 · 03-23-2009, 04:02 PM

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"Quality Score of 1" - I'd shoot myself - it means Google think you seriously suck. You sure you know what you're doing?

Would have been a lot easier for me if you would have read the post.

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To help them, I used similar campaigns that I run now, all successful.
They used their own landing pages and domains.

Every one had a 1 quality score and a slap of $10 but Google were showing landing page and relevance ok.

These are campaigns that almost, but not quite copy my successful campaigns.

I have them coping a campaign that I have that does about 1500 per week.

My QS scores are 7 and above. My CTR is 4.5.

With landing pages and the same keywords using a new ad word account they have a QS of 1 even though Google is showing ok for landing page and relevance.

That was the first part.

My direct linking are with domains that I use to re-direct.
I've been doing it for 8 months. All of a sudden they are stopping me.
I know it's against their TOS, but they have never checked until the past couple of weeks.

4morereferrals · 03-23-2009, 05:40 PM

This was an issue with the GCD I was a bit leary of ... a business model that is knowingly in violation of Googles rules, AND a business model that is pretty dependent on the "assumption" that someone running an adwords campaign for x number of days - must be making $$$.

Could it be the product OWNERs campaign? Or the pdt owners own affiliate campaign? It may be their MOST profitable but NOT even profitable :-)

I was thinking to myself - Self ... what if google has people from their adwords team as members here in Warrior Forum and they get wind of a program like GCD? Hi google - we've been stealing millions of your revenues for months under the radar, and now we;re going to show 1,000's of others how to do the same thing next week ... Things that make you go hrmmmm.

Rather odd no that they are starting to crack down hard, and publish an article on it mere days after the GCD launch? What did Chris Carpenter know and when di he know it?

Sounds like a great time to be a product creator ....

The Copy Nazi · 03-23-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 4morereferrals

This was an issue with the GCD I was a bit leary of ... a business model that is knowingly in violation of Googles rules, AND a business model that is pretty dependent on the "assumption" that someone running an adwords campaign for x number of days - must be making $$$.

Could it be the product OWNERs campaign? Or the pdt owners own affiliate campaign? It may be their MOST profitable but NOT even profitable :-)

I was thinking to myself - Self ... what if google has people from their adwords team as members here in Warrior Forum and they get wind of a program like GCD? Hi google - we've been stealing millions of your revenues for months under the radar, and now we;re going to show 1,000's of others how to do the same thing next week ... Things that make you go hrmmmm.

Rather odd no that they are starting to crack down hard, and publish an article on it mere days after the GCD launch? What did Chris Carpenter know and when di he know it?

Sounds like a great time to be a product creator ....

You're right. Google are not stupid. And I'm not sure what algorithms GCD is basing its "Profitability" on. But as I've said before - there's more to the equation than that. There's your History with Google Adwords for starters. Things like - Are you consistently getting good CTR?. Have you been around for awhile? Are you paying your bills on time.? Do they like the sites you're promoting? - all that. I'm highly suspicious of these types who claim to have a surefire system of milking Adwords. Bottom line - if its that good how come they're sharing it? And then we have the fact that Carpenter also runs a surf-camp plus yoga school in beautiful downtown Mexico. Something fishy there.
I notice his sidekick Jonathan Paul has gone quiet on this Forum.

NetMediaGeek · 03-23-2009, 06:55 PM

He's prob busy on their forum arguing with pissed off customers

maiko2299 · 03-24-2009, 12:44 AM

What about googspy.com???? Have you used this or am I out in Left field somewhere??

JohnDow · 03-24-2009, 04:37 AM

Hey all, There is something GOOD to say.
I did go in for a refund. They processed it smooth like butter... NO problems at all.
Credited back to my Credit Card in 3 working days, but transaction date was same as refund day. Nothing to complain about.

I still can log-in though. Can't use any functionality there, but you can sign up again in case you change your mind for $197,-. (They don't tell for what period, but i guess it's monthly.)

All together I will gave you this thought, but remember It's just MY flipping mind twist:

If you have access to the database THEY build, it's very easy to them to put filters in place to find the gold nuggets on autopilot and also to block them for us. I've spend literally HOURS and researched 100's of keywords to find a few more or less profitable campaigns exactly how they teach us. Cloned them, got cheap clicks and views (however price is going up > U will need a landing page to avoid) but so far no sales on about spending $25,- on ad words. Another guy found his own "profitable" campaign but really was NOT. I know, history tracking IS a perfect way to find out about your competitors are doing, but only if you get exposed to everything. Building your own base is much more work and time consuming but the results are exclusive.

People on the forum that are still in the program post your success stories if you have any and I might over think this twist, or apologize, but so far I think we pay big $$$ to feed more valuable keywords to the system they can "shave".

Success everybody.

JohnDow · 03-24-2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Metronicity

You kidding me? Forum - missing. Support - missing. Promised bonus of Google Cash Rewards Rubbish - missing. Blog - missing (its just a static web page). Blog page says "send us an email by clicking here - we will make it worth your while" (hyperlink) - dead link. Home Page - "we invite you to contribute your thoughts, concerns and even your best kept secrets through our "Contact Page" - another dead link. On the home page too.

Bear in mind this isn't a $97 ebook we're talking about. This is $350 four times over the year (for 67% of their clients) plus another $97 a month plus whatever it is they shaft you for the Google Automator thingey. All up at least $2600.

What were you saying again?

Don't get me wrong... I'm one your site.
Meanwhile I'm out. All went smoothly. No probs.

JohnDow · 03-24-2009, 05:26 AM

Metronicity please contact me by skype I can't yet PM on this forum.

THANK YOU.

mbpage9 · 03-24-2009, 09:45 AM

Whilst I am totally underwhelmed by GCD I've given them a few days to sort out their s**t. I've just logged in and found wild card url search is now functioning and the forum is up and running.

Hopefully we can now evaluate the software properly before deciding if it was worth the money. That said, in 3 hours of searching I haven't found anything worthwhile to clone. It really makes you wonder if anyone actually does make money with adwords these days!

Yusuf · 03-24-2009, 09:48 AM

In any case, this may be helpful: http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...arch-24th.html

jcaviani · 03-24-2009, 01:58 PM

Two of your most important metrics are lifetime customer value and cost of customer acquisition. If you play the affiliate game on its very bottom level - direct linking, no list, no backend, you will be eventually playing against someone who can afford to lose money on lead generation because their backend is a continuity or high ticket item that sells well.

If you have a well performing $3500.00 backend in a market where your competitors have only a front end $50.00 information product, who do you think will win in Adwords? Knowing your lifetime customer value tells you exactly how much you can afford to spend to acquire a lead.

While you can certainly make money in many markets (especially if they are undiscovered) as a bottom tier affiliate, it's much smarter and more profitable to turn prospects into customers through value. Providing value will be substantially more profitable long term than income chasing because you have a asset you can develop or sell.

The Copy Nazi · 03-24-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jcaviani

Two of your most important metrics are lifetime customer value and cost of customer acquisition. If you play the affiliate game on its very bottom level - direct linking, no list, no backend, you will be eventually playing against someone who can afford to lose money on lead generation because their backend is a continuity or high ticket item that sells well.

If you have a well performing $3500.00 backend in a market where your competitors have only a front end $50.00 information product, who do you think will win in Adwords? Knowing your lifetime customer value tells you exactly how much you can afford to spend to acquire a lead.

While you can certainly make money in many markets (especially if they are undiscovered) as a bottom tier affiliate, it's much smarter and more profitable to turn prospects into customers through value. Providing value will be substantially more profitable long term than income chasing because you have a asset you can develop or sell.

And are you making money, Einstein?

veotis · 03-25-2009, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Metronicity

And are you making money, Einstein?

Yeah, he is. He's a respected member on a paid forum that I'm a member of. In the few posts he made in this thread, he gave some great information. He just comes on a little strong, but he definitely knows what he is talking about.

thomashoi · 03-25-2009, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by vic1

Would have been a lot easier for me if you would have read the post.

I have them coping a campaign that I have that does about 1500 per week.

My QS scores are 7 and above. My CTR is 4.5.

With landing pages and the same keywords using a new ad word account they have a QS of 1 even though Google is showing ok for landing page and relevance.

That was the first part.

My direct linking are with domains that I use to re-direct.
I've been doing it for 8 months. All of a sudden they are stopping me.
I know it's against their TOS, but they have never checked until the past couple of weeks.

I think google is punishing advertisers that are not bring values to their customers. As you and I know, adwords is the bread and butter of google, therefore they make sure advertisers are doing their job.

if QS is 1, check the keyword you are bidding, and also the ads and the landing page.

BryanJLaz · 03-25-2009, 08:51 AM

I purchased GCD and got a refund.. It is not working effectively.
In addition, I would get PPCBully & Keycompete and you will be good to go..

eric w · 03-25-2009, 08:53 AM

Hi..i'm not new to making money on the internet, but i am new to adwords. I also purchased gcd ($997 up front and $97 monthly..ouch! lol..same as google conquest)

I get a lot of benefit from reading the posts here.

I've found a lot of markets with gcd where people are direct linking and have been doing so for long periods of time with profitability indexes of 5,000 and higher..some as high as 12,000! (gcd users will know what that means)

In the weekly training webinars, there's good info regarding how to go into the infamous "reverse phone"

Anyway, i've found many kw's and markets with gcd that "seem" ripe for the picking

I'll see after i run my first campaigns

Any advice is appreciated for this adwords newbie

eric

schnisz · 03-25-2009, 10:11 AM

Hey Eric- congrats on taking action! Thats a big leap of faith to take for a newbie. I have been watching this thread intently. Please keep us updated on your progress especially money in versus money out. Good luck!

jack101 · 03-26-2009, 09:06 AM

Anybody home? It's very quiet in here. Perhaps you're all busy making money or have applied for refunds. It would be nice to hear from some winners as encouragement to us newbies.

John Wood · 03-26-2009, 11:14 AM

I would also be interested in hearing how it is going for GCD users now that they have things back on track.

The Copy Nazi · 03-26-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wicked9690

I would also be interested in hearing how it is going for GCD users now that they have things back on track.

"Now that they have things back on track" - laughing my ass off.

You can not be serious.

eric w · 03-26-2009, 10:25 PM

thanks schnisz, i'll do that

metronicity gave me some good advice and i plan on having a few campaigns up to test by this weekend

the gcd webinars are very informative

as a newbie, i'm treading lightly..i'm not going after those "reverse phone look up" examples

as i'm typing here, i'm listening to a gcd webinar on how to clone a campaign and frank is showing in detail how to do it

he's doing it for the newbie

the good thing about frank's teaching, is that he's stressing taking it slow for the beginner and he actually showed us (not today) how to do cheap tests..one example is spending $1 per day and exactly how long to run it, and how to correctly interpret the results

now, he's giving a good comparison between going after those "fatloss4idiots" and "phone look-up" markets

he's saying he wouldn't suggest going after them..yet

well, i'm going to finish with the webinar

last not, there's a great feature that i really like with gcd,....it's the wild card search

i can search all clickbank and all cpa program campaigns...every last one of them!...clickbooth, commission junction, etc, etc.

well, gotta go...i'll keep you all updated on how i do

thanks everyone
eric

Simon Harding · 03-27-2009, 10:07 AM

Personally, I've used GCD ever since the first version came out.

The support section is great and the ability to look at existing and historic PPC information and then look at the affiliate and see what otehr keywords they use is great.

Personally if entering a niche, I like to:

1. Find a fast selling Clickbank product wiith good gravity and then look for steady sellers
2. Enter the product name into GCD2 and look at the ads;
3. I find an affiliate running a lot of ads with good scores, that have been shown regularly for a reasonable amount of time and copy the keywords used; repeat
4. I enter the URL of the CB product into Google external keyword tool, search for domain and pull off those keywords;
5. I fire up Market Samurai, start up a new project on the product name, enter the keywords the top affiliates use and the product name keywords;
6. I repeat for the other Clickbank products and enter them too;
7. I now, by the way, have a list of all the keywords the top affiliates use for the product using CGD2;
8. I copy their best performing ads into a swipe file
9. I then use MS to analyse the keywords and the SEO competition (this is time consuming)
10. I then create a list of keywords to target with PPC, those to target with organic results and those that fit into both categories
11. I then create a website and cater it around optimsing it for using those keywords using Semiologic Wordpress blogs;I outsource the content creation as a rule
12. I then use a seperate site with a variety of landing apges, opt-in pages and review pages and split test different pages using Affilaite Prophet and track conversions.

If anyone wants more information on my method, tell me.

So using CGD as part of a method can get you good results!

If you just use the results for academic purposes it will do you no good.

Best wishes

Simon

The Copy Nazi · 03-28-2009, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Simon Harding

Personally, I've used GCD ever since the first version came out.

The support section is great and the ability to look at existing and historic PPC information and then look at the affiliate and see what otehr keywords they use is great.

Personally if entering a niche, I like to:

1. Find a fast selling Clickbank product wiith good gravity and then look for steady sellers
2. Enter the product name into GCD2 and look at the ads;
3. I find an affiliate running a lot of ads with good scores, that have been shown regularly for a reasonable amount of time and copy the keywords used; repeat
4. I enter the URL of the CB product into Google external keyword tool, search for domain and pull off those keywords;
5. I fire up Market Samurai, start up a new project on the product name, enter the keywords the top affiliates use and the product name keywords;
6. I repeat for the other Clickbank products and enter them too;
7. I now, by the way, have a list of all the keywords the top affiliates use for the product using CGD2;
8. I copy their best performing ads into a swipe file
9. I then use MS to analyse the keywords and the SEO competition (this is time consuming)
10. I then create a list of keywords to target with PPC, those to target with organic results and those that fit into both categories
11. I then create a website and cater it around optimsing it for using those keywords using Semiologic Wordpress blogs;I outsource the content creation as a rule
12. I then use a seperate site with a variety of landing apges, opt-in pages and review pages and split test different pages using Affilaite Prophet and track conversions.

If anyone wants more information on my method, tell me.

So using CGD as part of a method can get you good results!

If you just use the results for academic purposes it will do you no good.

Best wishes

Simon

Hang on, hang on..."the support section is great". That was not my experience nor a lot of others here. In fact, in a word, I would describe their so-called "support" as woeful. For instance, I'm no longer with them (and got my refund yesterday), but Jonathon Paul answered one of my Support Tickets just yesterday - two weeks late. And that in anyone's estimation has got to be plain out pathetic. It was marked "high priority" or "urgent" or whatever they called it.

As for the rest of what you've said here you're just regurgitating the party line from the GoogleCashDetective little red book. I'm beginning to wonder if you are indeed a plant from GCD.

Bottom Line: Are you making any real dosh from your great system? Does it offset the $2600+ a year those nice gentlemen from GCD are charging?

BTW I see on your bloggie you describe yourself as a Barrister as well as an internet marketer. How very curious. What - the bar doesn't pay enough? Or do you just like whizzing around the affiliate track for thrills? You also answer my question as to whether you're making any money -

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I have being a struggling internet marketer for some time. Now, however, I feel like I’m making a series of breakthroughs. I’m not going to pretend I’m a genius at this or that I have thousands and thousands of pounds/dollars of income every month. (Yet).
Actually, last year I went from breaking even to beginning to make money. And I plan to keep it that way.

I guess being a Barrister you'd be well up on the Law as it pertains to Misrepresentation wouldn't you?

StopPress: I see you've written a book that you're giving away free to all new subscribers to your blog. With the snappy title - "AFFILIATE JUDGEMENT DAY" and a great shoutline "It is time". Bravo.

The Copy Nazi · 03-28-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dan dan

For us this is the best spy software on the market .

Oh look - another acolyte from GCD. You joined Warrior Forum today and this is all you have to say? Pray tell us why you think its the "best spy software on the planet".

Simon Harding · 03-28-2009, 12:25 PM

Hey Metronicity

Thanks for the flame.

You are right inasmuch as I can't comment on the support in terms of the tickets and so forth because I haven't used that. I have used the videos which I have felt useful and there are lots of videos and webinars.

I like the product and have used it since ths start. Other people may have a different experience.

But, why so angry? Can't other people express opinions?

You are as welcome to your opinions as I am to mine.

As to making money, as I have said, it fluctuates. I wish I made more, of course and I have good months and bad months.

By the way, cute picture of your son on your site.

Simon

Yusuf · 03-28-2009, 12:31 PM

Check out this thread - the call pretty much questions the Google cash method, to say the least, and that even if it's working right now then it probably won't be for long.

The Copy Nazi · 03-28-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon Harding

Hey Metronicity

Thanks for the flame.

You are right inasmuch as I can't comment on the support in terms of the tickets and so forth because I haven't used that. I have used the videos which I have felt useful and there are lots of videos and webinars.

I like the product and have used it since ths start. Other people may have a different experience.

But, why so angry? Can't other people express opinions?

You are as welcome to your opinions as I am to mine.

As to making money, as I have said, it fluctuates. I wish I made more, of course and I have good months and bad months.

By the way, cute picture of your son on your site.

Simon

Angry? Huh? You think that angry? And "Flame" - you truly think that a flame? I'm just telling it how it is - a complete fiasco - how can you deny that? And Voila - there you go - you've had no experience with Support. I have. A bad experience. A monumentally bad experience. I'm filing with the FTC as we speak. We'll see how he likes them apples. I note you don't talk about your Law gig.

rhj12345 · 03-29-2009, 02:46 AM

I purchased GCD and will be asking for a refund, I still have a few weeks left. I have never made any money using PPC and would like to see it just once.

So if you have NOT purchased GCD and you are good at PPC then maybe we can try an experiment for a few days or a week. Lets create a campaign together using your skills and my GCD and lets see if it works. I suspect the people who bought GCD were newbie’s like me and thanks to WF I now see I made a mistake.

I have enjoyed the training and picked up some good tips, but looking at PPCBully, with the exception of time, it does the same thing. I also agree long term this is not the way to build money on line, kind of like a Lawyer chasing an Ambulance, the Ambulance eventually runs out of gas.

Jay Rhome · 03-29-2009, 10:31 AM

I asked for a refund yesterday.

Let me say first GCD is indeed an amazing spy tool, but the lack of simple filters means you search for HOURS before coming up with useful data. And that's shows you something right there: it seems nobody is making money in PPC anymore!

The first campaigns I found that were seemingly profitable were all by merchants or big name stores... not by affiliates. I finally found some, cloned a few kws, and got PATHETIC CTR, like 0,01% while being in top 3 spots. I didn't waste much money, but copying what seems like good, long running ads I expected better.

I saw one of my own campaigns shown in part to be profitable and let me tell you it was not!

The ability to look at all the landing pages in slide shows is great, but not worth the price tag by any stretch.

I'm disappointed to say the least.

rhj12345 · 03-29-2009, 11:32 AM

Yes, I found it to be the same. Hours of research for nothing.

The Copy Nazi · 03-30-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Rhome

I asked for a refund yesterday.

Let me say first GCD is indeed an amazing spy tool, but the lack of simple filters means you search for HOURS before coming up with useful data. And that's shows you something right there: it seems nobody is making money in PPC anymore!

The first campaigns I found that were seemingly profitable were all by merchants or big name stores... not by affiliates. I finally found some, cloned a few kws, and got PATHETIC CTR, like 0,01% while being in top 3 spots. I didn't waste much money, but copying what seems like good, long running ads I expected better.

I saw one of my own campaigns shown in part to be profitable and let me tell you it was not!

The ability to look at all the landing pages in slide shows is great, but not worth the price tag by any stretch.

I'm disappointed to say the least.

I had a go at several supposedly "successful" campaigns and got good CTR but no conversions. Spot #1 & #2 is not where you want to be. #4 converts better. So you need to direct link with redirect & mask (have a look at my site) or build your own landing page. But yeah - the basic premise they're flogging this program with - "Clone a successful campaign and rake in the dough" is seriously flawed. You pay too much for clicks for one thing. The pros are getting them for .05 cents while we are charged a dollar or more.

The GCD so-called "profitabilty" index is a crock. BTW if you want a free affiliate spy tool similar to GCD - PM me. No it's not PPC Spy - much better than that. But it is a FireFox plugin.

jiht76 · 03-30-2009, 01:05 AM

I had bought GCD and this are my first impressions:

Great tool to finding ideas, but not so good for "clonning" campaigns (I've tested it)
A lot of sites with great traffic/popularity have LOTS of people promoting them as affiliates... but not for too long.

This could mean that:

A- It's not that easy to find campaigns to clone... and even if you do, clonning wil NOT guarantee your results.
B- It's a better idea to find affiliates for your product than to be an affiliate.

I'm still testing the software, I'm still don't have good results from it yet.

Yusuf · 03-30-2009, 01:14 AM

So far it seems no one has really gotten any major results with GCD, or if they have then they aren't making it public... this includes the GCD Forums not just Warrior Forums.

Anyone who has had results is (a) not sure exactly what happened and they're still learning how they got them, which is fine and normal but could be that they themselves did something useful, or (b) already extremely familiar with PPC.

Almost every single training video so far is just repeating the same things more or less in different ways. There is no check list or step-by-step direction. So while I agree it is a good spy tool... any tool, regardless of how wonderful it is, is useless without a operator's manual and any organized training whatsoever. A NASA spaceship can take you to outer space, but not if you don't know how to launch off and pilot it. In fact, if you don't know how to use the tool it can end up harming you, such as the spaceship blowing up and crashing or you losing tons of $ on PPC campaigns.

The key is that this product was mostly marketed to those with rough knowledge of PPC affiliate marketing, and it was understood that the training would be provided but as of now everything continues to be promised for delivery. I don't doubt it will be delivered necessarily, but probably 99.9% of those who purchased GCD were aiming to use the tool to pay off as much of it as possible within the 30 day trial.

vstar650 · 03-30-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Metronicity

You'll find it on my site. It involves Redirecting & Masking your affiliate link to make your Display URL & Destination URL the same. Then you can direct link without having to do battle with all the other schmucks paying too much per click. Very easily done. But keep it to yourself.

Here's the problem with using that approach... Google's double serving rule is not just about the URL, it's also about similar pages

__________________________________________________ ______________
As per Google's guidelines:

We'll only display one ad per search query for advertisers sharing the same top-level domains in the display URL. This means that if you're an affiliate advertiser, your ad may not show for a query because another affiliate or the website that runs the affiliate program also has ads using the same (or a similar) domain in the display URL. Also, your site should not mirror (be similar or nearly identical in appearance to) your parent company's or another advertiser's site.

__________________________________________________ _______________

So, Masking, cloaking or redirecting DOES NOT get around the "similar page" issue and it is only a matter of time before Google Slaps the **** out of you anyway... might not be today or tomorrow, but it will happen eventually!

My 2 cents

JNFerree · 03-30-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Metronicity

Hey check this out! http://www.chriscarpenterblog.com/go...e-the-phoenix/ Incredible! He's having the same problems as this launch of 18 months ago. Looks like he hasn't learnt anything from his past fiasco eh?

404 Error - File Not Found?

Yusuf · 03-30-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JNFerree

404 Error - File Not Found?

No problem, just check Google Cache for Google Cash

GoogleCash’s Official Blog

trishworks4u · 03-30-2009, 11:16 AM

I'm pretty new to warrior forums but have been keeping up w/ this thread and have "bought into" both PPC Classroom and GCD. I just got a horrible sinking feeling once I committed to GCD and started using it. The launch, support and training were a train wreck and I put in for a refund last week. Happy to report that I do already have my $ back.

Jury is still out on PPC - I don't like the way Anik keeps pitching anything and everything to members.

cambric · 03-30-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by trishworks4u

I'm pretty new to warrior forums but have been keeping up w/ this thread and have "bought into" both PPC Classroom and GCD. I just got a horrible sinking feeling once I committed to GCD and started using it. The launch, support and training were a train wreck and I put in for a refund last week. Happy to report that I do already have my $ back.

Jury is still out on PPC - I don't like the way Anik keeps pitching anything and everything to members.

I have to agree 100% with you. I got my money back last week, thank goodness, and I have enjoyed PPC Classroom, but Anik does promote a lot of things, including GCD.

I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to stay for a 3rd month with PPC...but I do feel tons better about them than I did about GCD!

Aaron Elliott · 03-30-2009, 02:51 PM

Jury is still out on PPC - I don't like the way Anik keeps pitching anything and everything to members.[/quote]

This is why I left PPC, everytime Anik speaks its about how much fun he has with all his money and how he can have a holiday all the time. He also sends crap to my email all the time promoting other offers, eg GGD, he only promotes this because each commission is over 500 bucks for him. Not to mention the support sucked with PPC.

I forgot to mention the 'free' dvd that was sent out was another marketing hype it had no helpful info on there what so ever.

Bit of topic.. but anyway thats how I heard about GGD.

mido · 03-30-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitejunkiee

Jury is still out on PPC - I don't like the way Anik keeps pitching anything and everything to members.

This is why I left PPC, everytime Anik speaks its about how much fun he has with all his money and how he can have a holiday all the time. He also sends crap to my email all the time promoting other offers, eg GGD, he only promotes this because each commission is over 500 bucks for him. Not to mention the support sucked with PPC.

I forgot to mention the 'free' dvd that was sent out was another marketing hype it had no helpful info on there what so ever. [/quote]

Exactly, I left PPCC1 because of Anik and I'll leave PPCC2 because of Anik. Amit is OK.

EricDestiny · 03-30-2009, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrise

Btw, I did what he said manually in the pre launch videos and I made money. I made around $215 with the reverse phone detective and only spend $65 on ppc. Manually guys in 3 days! Do you know how much I will be making if I had the software and could clone like 20 campaigns per week and would set a budget of $500 a day? That would be a nice and juicy 30 or 40K per month. I mean.. thats just awsome, hello? anybody there? I said awsome oke! Well, this train is going to leave so you better decide if you want to hop on.

Peace

One love

Hey man,

Sound like this software is a winner for you.

Btw, since you've used the software, do you know what's the different between GCD 2 and keywordspy.com?

Thanks

The Copy Nazi · 03-31-2009, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstar650

Here's the problem with using that approach... Google's double serving rule is not just about the URL, it's also about similar pages

__________________________________________________ ______________
As per Google's guidelines:

We'll only display one ad per search query for advertisers sharing the same top-level domains in the display URL. This means that if you're an affiliate advertiser, your ad may not show for a query because another affiliate or the website that runs the affiliate program also has ads using the same (or a similar) domain in the display URL. Also, your site should not mirror (be similar or nearly identical in appearance to) your parent company's or another advertiser's site.

__________________________________________________ _______________

So, Masking, cloaking or redirecting DOES NOT get around the "similar page" issue and it is only a matter of time before Google Slaps the **** out of you anyway... might not be today or tomorrow, but it will happen eventually!

My 2 cents

It's a very good way of testing a campaign before building a Landing Page.

Avidpoet · 03-31-2009, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trishworks4u

I'm pretty new to warrior forums but have been keeping up w/ this thread and have "bought into" both PPC Classroom and GCD. I just got a horrible sinking feeling once I committed to GCD and started using it. The launch, support and training were a train wreck and I put in for a refund last week. Happy to report that I do already have my $ back.

Jury is still out on PPC - I don't like the way Anik keeps pitching anything and everything to members.

Thats the reason why I asked for a refund from PPC Classroom. It seemed like the next week it was them pitching ppc bully then google cash detective 2. Its hard to stay focused when your teacher is sending you other products or services. Im still subscribed to their list and they are pitching ppc 2.0 today lol

Aaron Elliott · 03-31-2009, 03:46 PM

I know, also they teach you how to do PPC, but then they give you a stack of bonus such as speed PPC, and alot more programs. Im like hang on they just tought us how to use excel for PPC, now we get this program + many other progrsms.

Anyway, right now im unsubscribing from all lists but 2. So sick of all this upselling crap.

The Copy Nazi · 03-31-2009, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yusuf

No problem, just check Google Cache for Google Cash

GoogleCash’s Official Blog

"Google Cache for Google Cash". Ha ha. He can run but he can't hide huh. Thanks for posting that. The link worked when I first posted it.

vstar650 · 04-01-2009, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vstar650

Here's the problem with using that approach... Google's double serving rule is not just about the URL, it's also about similar pages

__________________________________________________ ______________
As per Google's guidelines:

We'll only display one ad per search query for advertisers sharing the same top-level domains in the display URL. This means that if you're an affiliate advertiser, your ad may not show for a query because another affiliate or the website that runs the affiliate program also has ads using the same (or a similar) domain in the display URL. Also, your site should not mirror (be similar or nearly identical in appearance to) your parent company's or another advertiser's site.

__________________________________________________ _______________

So, Masking, cloaking or redirecting DOES NOT get around the "similar page" issue and it is only a matter of time before Google Slaps the **** out of you anyway... might not be today or tomorrow, but it will happen eventually!

My 2 cents

I love it... NO rebuttals

I'm right, are'nt I!

verj0014 · 04-01-2009, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrise

What he did was DOMAIN FORWARDING AND MASKING.
Very simple and I have done it all the time and Google never Bitch slapped me for it.

I always go to godaddy.com and buy a domain that has something of my main keyword in it. Then I go to my domain manager and click on the forward tab. There I copy and paste my affiliate link. then I click on 301. Then I go to the masking tab and click on masking enable and I write a masking title.

Then I wait 5 minutes so that godaddy can set everything up.
What I then do is go to adwords and I fill in both the destination and display url the same domain that I have forwarded with Godaddy.

Easy as 1,2 3 and now you dont have to go on a bidding war with someone and you are still direct linking. Something I learned from Michael Macks or whatever his name is

Sorry for my sometimes broken english

I saluut

what is google cash detective btw?

Aaron Elliott · 04-01-2009, 05:48 PM

It is a program that shows how long other people have been running adword campagins. Shows what keyowrds, bid prices ect they are using. The idea is you can copy their campaign's.

The Copy Nazi · 04-02-2009, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by verj0014

what is google cash detective btw?

Mate, when you want to know something or find out some information on something, just use Google Search. To do a Broad Search - that is - any result containing those words in any order, Enter - Google Cash Detective into the search bar.

For a search of the phrase - put your query in inverted commas like this -"Google Cash Detective".

If you want an EXACT search (as you've written it) enter it with square brackets like this [Google Cash Detective] .

The last will usually give you the least results but will be more targeted. But in this case I got 406,000 results for a Broad Search. 97,700 results for a "Phrase Search" and 98,600 results for an [exact Search]. The results were off because of the word "Google".

That technique is also a good way of searching for niche keywords. First do a Broad Search and note the number of results. Then do a "Phrase" and an [Exact] search and note the numbers. If you get a big disparity - like 100,000 results for Broad and only 6,000 results for "Phrase" it usually means there's not a lot of competition for those keywords. Conversely if the Broad and Phrase searches are about the same number of results - there's a lot of competition - a lot of people optimizing or competing for those keywords.

Hope that helps.

03-23-2009, 05:40 PM	#803
4morereferrals Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sunny So Cal Posts: 2,368 Thanks: 358 Thanked 400 Times in 269 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? This was an issue with the GCD I was a bit leary of ... a business model that is knowingly in violation of Googles rules, AND a business model that is pretty dependent on the "assumption" that someone running an adwords campaign for x number of days - must be making $$$. Could it be the product OWNERs campaign? Or the pdt owners own affiliate campaign? It may be their MOST profitable but NOT even profitable :-) I was thinking to myself - Self ... what if google has people from their adwords team as members here in Warrior Forum and they get wind of a program like GCD? Hi google - we've been stealing millions of your revenues for months under the radar, and now we;re going to show 1,000's of others how to do the same thing next week ... Things that make you go hrmmmm. Rather odd no that they are starting to crack down hard, and publish an article on it mere days after the GCD launch? What did Chris Carpenter know and when di he know it? Sounds like a great time to be a product creator ....
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03-23-2009, 06:55 PM	#805
NetMediaGeek Advanced Warrior Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 508 Thanks: 18 Thanked 42 Times in 36 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? He's prob busy on their forum arguing with pissed off customers

03-24-2009, 12:44 AM	#806
maiko2299 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: , , USA. Posts: 458 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? What about googspy.com???? Have you used this or am I out in Left field somewhere??

03-24-2009, 04:37 AM	#807
JohnDow Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 19 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Google Cash Detective? Hey all, There is something GOOD to say. I did go in for a refund. They processed it smooth like butter... NO problems at all. Credited back to my Credit Card in 3 working days, but transaction date was same as refund day. Nothing to complain about. I still can log-in though. Can't use any functionality there, but you can sign up again in case you change your mind for $197,-. (They don't tell for what period, but i guess it's monthly.) All together I will gave you this thought, but remember It's just MY flipping mind twist: If you have access to the database THEY build, it's very easy to them to put filters in place to find the gold nuggets on autopilot and also to block them for us. I've spend literally HOURS and researched 100's of keywords to find a few more or less profitable campaigns exactly how they teach us. Cloned them, got cheap clicks and views (however price is going up > U will need a landing page to avoid) but so far no sales on about spending $25,- on ad words. Another guy found his own "profitable" campaign but really was NOT. I know, history tracking IS a perfect way to find out about your competitors are doing, but only if you get exposed to everything. Building your own base is much more work and time consuming but the results are exclusive. People on the forum that are still in the program post your success stories if you have any and I might over think this twist, or apologize, but so far I think we pay big $$$ to feed more valuable keywords to the system they can "shave". Success everybody.

03-24-2009, 05:26 AM	#809
JohnDow Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 19 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Google Cash Detective? Metronicity please contact me by skype I can't yet PM on this forum. THANK YOU.

03-24-2009, 09:45 AM	#810
mbpage9 Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: , , United Kingdom. Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? Whilst I am totally underwhelmed by GCD I've given them a few days to sort out their s**t. I've just logged in and found wild card url search is now functioning and the forum is up and running. Hopefully we can now evaluate the software properly before deciding if it was worth the money. That said, in 3 hours of searching I haven't found anything worthwhile to clone. It really makes you wonder if anyone actually does make money with adwords these days!

03-24-2009, 09:48 AM	#811
Yusuf HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 107 Thanks: 8 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? In any case, this may be helpful: http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...arch-24th.html

03-24-2009, 01:58 PM	#812
jcaviani 1 of almost 7 Billion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 324 Thanks: 0 Thanked 32 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? Two of your most important metrics are lifetime customer value and cost of customer acquisition. If you play the affiliate game on its very bottom level - direct linking, no list, no backend, you will be eventually playing against someone who can afford to lose money on lead generation because their backend is a continuity or high ticket item that sells well. If you have a well performing $3500.00 backend in a market where your competitors have only a front end $50.00 information product, who do you think will win in Adwords? Knowing your lifetime customer value tells you exactly how much you can afford to spend to acquire a lead. While you can certainly make money in many markets (especially if they are undiscovered) as a bottom tier affiliate, it's much smarter and more profitable to turn prospects into customers through value. Providing value will be substantially more profitable long term than income chasing because you have a asset you can develop or sell.

03-25-2009, 08:51 AM	#816
BryanJLaz StickyBids Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Google Cash Detective? I purchased GCD and got a refund.. It is not working effectively. In addition, I would get PPCBully & Keycompete and you will be good to go..

03-25-2009, 08:53 AM	#817
eric w Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Great Lakes Posts: 645 Thanks: 111 Thanked 62 Times in 55 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? Hi..i'm not new to making money on the internet, but i am new to adwords. I also purchased gcd ($997 up front and $97 monthly..ouch! lol..same as google conquest) I get a lot of benefit from reading the posts here. I've found a lot of markets with gcd where people are direct linking and have been doing so for long periods of time with profitability indexes of 5,000 and higher..some as high as 12,000! (gcd users will know what that means) In the weekly training webinars, there's good info regarding how to go into the infamous "reverse phone" Anyway, i've found many kw's and markets with gcd that "seem" ripe for the picking I'll see after i run my first campaigns Any advice is appreciated for this adwords newbie eric

03-25-2009, 10:11 AM	#818
schnisz HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 214 Thanks: 12 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? Hey Eric- congrats on taking action! Thats a big leap of faith to take for a newbie. I have been watching this thread intently. Please keep us updated on your progress especially money in versus money out. Good luck!
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03-26-2009, 09:06 AM	#819
jack101 Warrior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? Anybody home? It's very quiet in here. Perhaps you're all busy making money or have applied for refunds. It would be nice to hear from some winners as encouragement to us newbies.

03-26-2009, 11:14 AM	#820
John Wood HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: AB, Canada. Posts: 122 Thanks: 7 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Social Networking	Re: Google Cash Detective? I would also be interested in hearing how it is going for GCD users now that they have things back on track.
	TBD

03-26-2009, 10:25 PM	#822
eric w Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Great Lakes Posts: 645 Thanks: 111 Thanked 62 Times in 55 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? thanks schnisz, i'll do that metronicity gave me some good advice and i plan on having a few campaigns up to test by this weekend the gcd webinars are very informative as a newbie, i'm treading lightly..i'm not going after those "reverse phone look up" examples as i'm typing here, i'm listening to a gcd webinar on how to clone a campaign and frank is showing in detail how to do it he's doing it for the newbie the good thing about frank's teaching, is that he's stressing taking it slow for the beginner and he actually showed us (not today) how to do cheap tests..one example is spending $1 per day and exactly how long to run it, and how to correctly interpret the results now, he's giving a good comparison between going after those "fatloss4idiots" and "phone look-up" markets he's saying he wouldn't suggest going after them..yet well, i'm going to finish with the webinar last not, there's a great feature that i really like with gcd,....it's the wild card search i can search all clickbank and all cpa program campaigns...every last one of them!...clickbooth, commission junction, etc, etc. well, gotta go...i'll keep you all updated on how i do thanks everyone eric

03-27-2009, 10:07 AM	#823
Simon Harding Warrior Trying Harder War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, United Kingdom. Posts: 105 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? Personally, I've used GCD ever since the first version came out. The support section is great and the ability to look at existing and historic PPC information and then look at the affiliate and see what otehr keywords they use is great. Personally if entering a niche, I like to: 1. Find a fast selling Clickbank product wiith good gravity and then look for steady sellers 2. Enter the product name into GCD2 and look at the ads; 3. I find an affiliate running a lot of ads with good scores, that have been shown regularly for a reasonable amount of time and copy the keywords used; repeat 4. I enter the URL of the CB product into Google external keyword tool, search for domain and pull off those keywords; 5. I fire up Market Samurai, start up a new project on the product name, enter the keywords the top affiliates use and the product name keywords; 6. I repeat for the other Clickbank products and enter them too; 7. I now, by the way, have a list of all the keywords the top affiliates use for the product using CGD2; 8. I copy their best performing ads into a swipe file 9. I then use MS to analyse the keywords and the SEO competition (this is time consuming) 10. I then create a list of keywords to target with PPC, those to target with organic results and those that fit into both categories 11. I then create a website and cater it around optimsing it for using those keywords using Semiologic Wordpress blogs;I outsource the content creation as a rule 12. I then use a seperate site with a variety of landing apges, opt-in pages and review pages and split test different pages using Affilaite Prophet and track conversions. If anyone wants more information on my method, tell me. So using CGD as part of a method can get you good results! If you just use the results for academic purposes it will do you no good. Best wishes Simon
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03-28-2009, 12:25 PM	#826
Simon Harding Warrior Trying Harder War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, United Kingdom. Posts: 105 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? Hey Metronicity Thanks for the flame. You are right inasmuch as I can't comment on the support in terms of the tickets and so forth because I haven't used that. I have used the videos which I have felt useful and there are lots of videos and webinars. I like the product and have used it since ths start. Other people may have a different experience. But, why so angry? Can't other people express opinions? You are as welcome to your opinions as I am to mine. As to making money, as I have said, it fluctuates. I wish I made more, of course and I have good months and bad months. By the way, cute picture of your son on your site. Simon
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03-28-2009, 12:31 PM	#827
Yusuf HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 107 Thanks: 8 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? Check out this thread - the call pretty much questions the Google cash method, to say the least, and that even if it's working right now then it probably won't be for long.

03-29-2009, 02:46 AM	#829
rhj12345 The Other Rob Jones War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 244 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 133 Thanked 54 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? I purchased GCD and will be asking for a refund, I still have a few weeks left. I have never made any money using PPC and would like to see it just once. So if you have NOT purchased GCD and you are good at PPC then maybe we can try an experiment for a few days or a week. Lets create a campaign together using your skills and my GCD and lets see if it works. I suspect the people who bought GCD were newbie’s like me and thanks to WF I now see I made a mistake. I have enjoyed the training and picked up some good tips, but looking at PPCBully, with the exception of time, it does the same thing. I also agree long term this is not the way to build money on line, kind of like a Lawyer chasing an Ambulance, the Ambulance eventually runs out of gas.

03-29-2009, 10:31 AM	#830
Jay Rhome Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 622 Thanks: 151 Thanked 119 Times in 84 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? I asked for a refund yesterday. Let me say first GCD is indeed an amazing spy tool, but the lack of simple filters means you search for HOURS before coming up with useful data. And that's shows you something right there: it seems nobody is making money in PPC anymore! The first campaigns I found that were seemingly profitable were all by merchants or big name stores... not by affiliates. I finally found some, cloned a few kws, and got PATHETIC CTR, like 0,01% while being in top 3 spots. I didn't waste much money, but copying what seems like good, long running ads I expected better. I saw one of my own campaigns shown in part to be profitable and let me tell you it was not! The ability to look at all the landing pages in slide shows is great, but not worth the price tag by any stretch. I'm disappointed to say the least.

03-29-2009, 11:32 AM	#831
rhj12345 The Other Rob Jones War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 244 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 133 Thanked 54 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? Yes, I found it to be the same. Hours of research for nothing.

03-30-2009, 01:05 AM	#833
jiht76 Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Quito, Ecuador. Posts: 49 Thanks: 9 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? I had bought GCD and this are my first impressions: Great tool to finding ideas, but not so good for "clonning" campaigns (I've tested it) A lot of sites with great traffic/popularity have LOTS of people promoting them as affiliates... but not for too long. This could mean that: A- It's not that easy to find campaigns to clone... and even if you do, clonning wil NOT guarantee your results. B- It's a better idea to find affiliates for your product than to be an affiliate. I'm still testing the software, I'm still don't have good results from it yet.
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03-30-2009, 01:14 AM	#834
Yusuf HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 107 Thanks: 8 Thanked 13 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Google Cash Detective? So far it seems no one has really gotten any major results with GCD, or if they have then they aren't making it public... this includes the GCD Forums not just Warrior Forums. Anyone who has had results is (a) not sure exactly what happened and they're still learning how they got them, which is fine and normal but could be that they themselves did something useful, or (b) already extremely familiar with PPC. Almost every single training video so far is just repeating the same things more or less in different ways. There is no check list or step-by-step direction. So while I agree it is a good spy tool... any tool, regardless of how wonderful it is, is useless without a operator's manual and any organized training whatsoever. A NASA spaceship can take you to outer space, but not if you don't know how to launch off and pilot it. In fact, if you don't know how to use the tool it can end up harming you, such as the spaceship blowing up and crashing or you losing tons of $ on PPC campaigns. The key is that this product was mostly marketed to those with rough knowledge of PPC affiliate marketing, and it was understood that the training would be provided but as of now everything continues to be promised for delivery. I don't doubt it will be delivered necessarily, but probably 99.9% of those who purchased GCD were aiming to use the tool to pay off as much of it as possible within the 30 day trial.

03-30-2009, 11:16 AM	#838
trishworks4u Floating Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 483 Thanks: 45 Thanked 85 Times in 71 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Google Cash Detective? I'm pretty new to warrior forums but have been keeping up w/ this thread and have "bought into" both PPC Classroom and GCD. I just got a horrible sinking feeling once I committed to GCD and started using it. The launch, support and training were a train wreck and I put in for a refund last week. Happy to report that I do already have my $ back. Jury is still out on PPC - I don't like the way Anik keeps pitching anything and everything to members.

03-30-2009, 02:51 PM	#840
Aaron Elliott Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SA - Australia Posts: 509 Thanks: 31 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking	Re: Google Cash Detective? Jury is still out on PPC - I don't like the way Anik keeps pitching anything and everything to members.[/quote] This is why I left PPC, everytime Anik speaks its about how much fun he has with all his money and how he can have a holiday all the time. He also sends crap to my email all the time promoting other offers, eg GGD, he only promotes this because each commission is over 500 bucks for him. Not to mention the support sucked with PPC. I forgot to mention the 'free' dvd that was sent out was another marketing hype it had no helpful info on there what so ever. Bit of topic.. but anyway thats how I heard about GGD.
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03-31-2009, 03:46 PM	#845
Aaron Elliott Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SA - Australia Posts: 509 Thanks: 31 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking	Re: Google Cash Detective? I know, also they teach you how to do PPC, but then they give you a stack of bonus such as speed PPC, and alot more programs. Im like hang on they just tought us how to use excel for PPC, now we get this program + many other progrsms. Anyway, right now im unsubscribing from all lists but 2. So sick of all this upselling crap.
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04-01-2009, 05:48 PM	#849
Aaron Elliott Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: SA - Australia Posts: 509 Thanks: 31 Thanked 18 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking	Re: Google Cash Detective? It is a program that shows how long other people have been running adword campagins. Shows what keyowrds, bid prices ect they are using. The idea is you can copy their campaign's.
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