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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: , , USA.
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They give you 90 days to dispute any charge, just point them to this thread to support your fraud claims. Know your rights people put this types of guru's out of business.. | |
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| | #1102 |
| Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009
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It's not about "If you don't have a problem paying for something that doesn't work", but it's about making informed decisions. What you're saying here reminds me of 10 years old kid frustrated, and trying to blame othere for his own mistakes. If that's 30 days trial and you're out of the time frame than you shouldn't even open your mouth.... All you're saying is you're not organized and irresponssible. Sorry to be rude - but I thought this forum is for grown up people, who a/ can read b/understand what they read, but I always can be mistaken. Keep creating your own rules and curse the world for not adjusting to them, because it's not your fault... Alle the best JJ |
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| | #1103 |
| Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009
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the best way to put "this types of gurus out of business" is to not buy their product, and if you do claim your refund in time specified in "terms&conditions". If you'll ask for a refund within specified time, it really doesn't matter whether they'll move you to the 'upper management" or not. It happened to me before with GlazerKennedy - their system was down for a few days, and they didn't refund me at first. But when I send the a copy of original message, with the date within the period of time specified in the t&c, they promptly refunded money into my account. So I really don't know what all this moaning is about. It's an issue only if they will REFUSE to pay you the money back, despite the fact you've send you cancellation e-mail within the specified time frame. Other than that there is nothing to talk about. Best JJ |
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| | #1104 |
| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Minnesota
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I used GCD for 30 days (actually, probably closer to 40 because of the timing of my trial and his extended trial), but I found the tool pretty useful. I didn't use it to create direct linking campaigns, but to help me figure out which landing pages were most successful in different niches. I used GCD to thoroughly research 3 different niches and I was able to make 2 of them profitable within a couple weeks. I'm now in the process of scaling those campaigns with both PPC and SEO. Plus, I'm confident that I can make the third campaign profitable as well...just holding off on that one until I get the other 2 scaled up. I agree with most that the claims made by Chris were a little outrageous (like so many launches), but this is a tool that can save you time and help you find profitable campaigns. It definitely takes some guess work out of it. Of course, you don't NEED a product like GCD, but it's a very nice time saver. Just my opinion... |
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| | #1105 |
| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009
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I got to use the software for about 7 days and thought it was really good. I was able to find some keywords that I would have never thought of by myself. I think part of the problem was that GCD was pushed so hard by Guru's that it got saturated especially if you were involved in direct linking. I"m sure this type of software had something to do w/ the latest Google Slap.
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| | #1106 |
| Banned War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009
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Whoaaa, what a long thread. I use GCD and yes it is good if you know how to use it but its not worth the monthly fee when so much of the same research is readily available from other sources. I also don't like the many varied shady offerings which have left so many paying so much more then the latest price offering.
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| | #1107 |
| Sahan Asad Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London
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i am a GCD user. It is a good tool. But dont get fooled into copy and paste a campaign via direct linking and start to make tones of money. NO CHANCE!!! For a start with the campaign you try to clone have history and QS that you dont have. Best way to used it is by creating your own Landing page |
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| | #1108 |
| Active Warrior Join Date: May 2009
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Well guys, there is something I am going to do, I will not buy anything, I mean anything over the internet that requires a monthly fee. I think, really, it is bad business. Mostly because you end up paying a lot of money for crappy products and crappy marketers.
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| | #1109 |
| Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: , , .
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Wow, I just found this thread here. Well, here is what I can say to the n00bs who don't know how to use a tool and complain: I use this tool for 2 or 3 months now (maybe 2.5 months or something) and in my opinion this is really a GREAT tool! However, I don't use the copy and paste style with direct linking. Don't know how well that would work. Actually, I wouldn't recommend using copy & paste with direct linking at all. This is an amazing tool for finding the right stuff. But finding the right stuff alone won't make you money IMO. You need to know how to use tools. If you don't know then you are a n00b and need to learn first. Just because you are a n00b and don't know how to use a tool doesn't mean the tool is poor. This tool is great for what it does. And is well worth the monthly membership fee. If you don't know how to make multiples of the monthly membership fee PER WEEK, then learn the ropes but don't blame the tool, N00B! |
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| Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: , , .
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| | #1111 |
| Mal Lambe War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Bunker, Paris
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| Hey Mister 10 Posts...perhaps if you bothered to read ALL the posts you wouldn't be so quick to start slagging people off as "Noobs". There are plenty of veterans here who have used the thing and found it to be not what it's cracked up to be.
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| | #1112 | |
| Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: , , .
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And I wanted to point out that while those "veterans" of yours might know a thing or two in other areas of marketing they clearly don't have a clue about PPC marketing. That is clear as crystal to me because I've been using this tool for about 3 months now and knowing how to use and exploit such tools I find this particular tool to be pretty useful and well worth the monthly membership fee. | |
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| | #1113 |
| Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: , , .
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P.S. The fact that I don't have a high post count here, only says that I don't use this forum much. (In general, I use forums very rarely because it's very easy to waste a lot of time in a forum) And because I have 10+ years experience in marketing I don't need the forum to learn stuff. |
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| | #1114 |
| Advanced Warrior Join Date: Feb 2009
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The thing is mate, when it was launched it was aimed at newbies, also the big marketing hype behind it was the find profitable campaigns and clone them. Thats what pissed most people off !!!!!!
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| James Pateman War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nowra (3 hours south of Sydney, Australia)
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Hi LB, Good to read some independent perspective. regards, James Pateman |
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| | #1116 |
| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: From Liverpool U.k But now in a small cottage in wicklow,Dublin, soon to be heading to miami,
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| Google cash detective I wanted to get in on that so bad but something that actual day that i could not explain that stopped me form the brink of joing up(I think in the universal world of marketing it was all the guru emails on the list who emailed me about 200 times a day trying to get me to sign up via their link with bonuses) After it closed it doors i felt i may of missed out from some great softwere. So to recover i joined the warrior forum and read this post all about it so in honestly i have not missed much it was all hype as i have read the negititve and positives on the program and staying in a professional mind and non bashing intended, im glad i was further away form the high apples on the trees when this was released, |
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| | #1117 |
| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009
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I'm debating on whether or not to use the 7 day free trial and get some keywords for article marketing. I just thiink that GCD 2.0 would be a great source for niche keywords since it tracks what people are already searching for. I messed around w/ it for Adwords and found some great keywords that I would have never found anyother way.
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| Mood Dependent On SERPs Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Arizona, USA
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I've used GCD 2.0 for niche keyword research...it's great for that. It's also very useful to identify good landing pages for ideas on what's converting in a niche. I'm surprised sometimes how crappy some of the landing pages are that have been up for so long...they must convert...at least I assume they do...maybe that's another drawback. GCD 2.0 is a useful tool but there are other free tools out there that will show you almost the same stuff without the $97 coming out of your pocket every month. It's definitely not the noob tool it was promoted to be as it doesn't take into account any of the other reasons a PPC ad comes up in first position. Often times, the person in #1 position paid far less to be there than the person in the #5 position. It's not just about how much you bid for the keyword. Copy-catting an assumed successful PPC campaign or using it for a direct linking strategy is a recipe for shrinking your bank account. That's my $.02. |
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| | #1119 |
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| Mal Lambe War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Bunker, Paris
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| | #1121 |
| Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: , , .
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| It always annoys me a lot when I see some forms that believe they can force me to put in my date of birth or even just the year. Thus I ALWAYS select some random date on such occasions. And it amazes me how carelessly people handle their private data these days. |
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| | #1122 |
| Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: , , .
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| I didn't say that. I'm a student of marketing for more than 10 years now and I don't think I'll ever stop learning. What I said was: "I don't need the forum to learn stuff." No more, no less. By that I especially meant: I don't need to generate hundreds or thousands of posts in the forum in order to learn. |
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| | #1123 |
| Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2008
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| | #1124 |
| Brick & Byte businesses Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Atlanta
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Wow, there is a lot here. From my experience bert tassoni, metrocinty and checkmuldoon hit the nail on the head. Learning how to research and do direct linking will get you most of the way there. I passsed on it because there was so much negative press on it. You will always find articles & posts from advocates but when you look at the various sources it boiled down to convenience at a steep price....and way too much hyperbole. IMO
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| | #1125 | |
| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009
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To a certain extent, I totally agree with you that GCD does has its merits. Like what you say,"learn the ropes but don't blame the tool... ". But to call others "noobs" is really a disrespect to others, as well as yourself. Remember, you want others to respect, or be nice to you? Learn to respect, or ne nice to others first. How others react to you is how you behave in the first place. All the members here are "WARRIORS", not "nxxxs". Let's move on from here.... You never know one day, these warriors can be your jv partners. Yours sincerely Richard Cheah | |
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| | #1126 |
| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brizvegas Australia
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Was about to take up Chris's offer of the FREE DVD and trial membership and then had one of those bright spark moments (rare indeed) and came to the trusty Warrior Forum to read the latest comments first. Wooah!! what a huge thread and what a mixed bag of input from everyone. Thank you to everyone who took the time to give their honest and intelligent opinions. This helped me a great deal in making my decision to keep my wallet in my pocket. ![]() No I haven't been around here for some time as I had no need to research any new products for a while. I've been busy taking action with what I have already bought & started. Just my two cents worth. |
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| | #1127 |
| Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009
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| Google Cash Detective doesn't look like a scam. It has some nice cool features of spying on other people profitable adwords campaign. It should cost hundreds if not thousands for this spying tool. Chris Carpenter is legit, he is also known as the pioneer of direct linking in adwords.
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| | #1128 |
| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore
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Direct linking may give you some short term income, but in the long run, nobody can guarantee if this will still work. I find that building your entire business on direct linking is dangerous because once this method off traffic generation is gone, your entire business is toast... It is still the best way to have a squeeze page to build a list.... Your list will ensure you will have a sound business model. |
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| | #1129 |
| Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Europe & UAE
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Hi, just a quick reply to all of these "I am glad I haven't tried it" posts. I am a beta tester with GCD since day one and although it's true that this tool is not the holy cow allowing you to copy/paste campaign, it can give you great value for money when using it for the right type of research. You can use it for all type of marketing, media buys, content, paid, free, you name it. I wouldn't recommend it to everyone BUT to find out YOU have to TEST it yourself. The forum can give you an idea but shouldn't decide instead of you. Take care, Wuuki |
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| | #1130 |
| Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2009
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Hi guys Can anyone help me out please. I gained access to the GCD through joining ppC 3.0. The GC4 home study videos came as a bonus, these were incomplete at the time, they have since been updated but as far as I can see there are still two videos missing from the complete advertised course. I also gained access to the GCD though not the automater, I have tried using the detective and the keyword search is working, but when I try a URL wildcard search it keeps coming back as 0 results found or your session has expired. I have submitted three support tickets to which I have not received any replies. Can anyone shed any light on this for me please, is there a more direct way to contact Chris and his team other than the support system which does not seem to work or I am just being blatantly ignored. I cannot add to the debate on the value of the system unless I can use the system so i'm hoping one of my fellow warriors can help me out. Kind regards. John |
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| | #1131 |
| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sydney, Australia & London, UK
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Wow - I'm just so glad I found this thread, and in turn so glad I've joined Warrior Forum. Thanks for everyone's intelligent feedback - this new guy just saved himself a disaster he didn't need! |
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| | #1132 |
| Affiliate Ultra LLC Join Date: May 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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After 1 year of GCD and GCA membership (and a campaign cloning success rate of around 30%), I decided I had had enough and decided to opt out. I fired off two support tickets to GCD Support, one asking to refund my GCD payment for June and cancel my subscription, and another to refund my June GCA payment and cancel that subscription also. I also mentioned that if I did not receive the refunds then I would initiate a chargeback from both of my credit cards (slightly underhanded threat there!). Needless to say, my membership was 'deactivated' within 10 minutes of sending my support tickets! I was blown away! All of a sudden I had no access to the Detective, no access to the videos or Automator... and all the links to the member options, forum and upgrades were gone. Funny thing is, I can still log in to my account and my credit card details, personal info and account details are still there. I also have two links to reactivate my membership if I so desire to, at some point in the future. Funny thing is... they also cancelled my free Clickbank Detective membership! LOL! So I created another Clickbank Detective membership because I find it to be a very useful tool for researching CPA offers and finding out the names of all the clickbank affiliates promoting the products. I also find I can do the same sort of spying and competitive intelligence research using tools such as Market Samurai, Keyword Elite, Affiliate Elite, Traffic Travis and Affiliate Prophet Pro. All other research tools I use are in the form of SEO and PPC Firefox addons. BTW... the Adwords Time Machine in Keyword Elite 2.0 is superior in many ways to GCD and is much easier to understand and visually identify. It too allows you to find the consistently successful campaigns and see their ad-copy, keywords, ad-changes, display and destination URL, affiliate links, etc. It's a pay-once, use-forever tool and much better value than a $97 per month membership. Oh, and I HIGHLY RECOMMEND to purchase the full, complete Affiliate Prophet keyword tracking tool (including all upsells and upgrades). It is worth every penny you spend on it and it is simply one of the most AMAZING keyword tools I have come across. Direct-linking in Adwords would not be profitable nor sustainable without using a tool like it! And that is saying a lot. |
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| Floating In Sea Of Ideas War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Harrisonburg, Virginia USA.
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1 in 3 (approx.) I think I could make a living on that! Please respond, what am I missing? Jim Furr ><> | |
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| | #1134 |
| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: , , USA.
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| You're right. If he had a 30% success rate and was still losing money then it sounds like he wasn't tracking, pruning, and scaling very well.
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| | #1135 |
| Student of Life War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Looks like GCD is abandoned? Been in beta 3 for ages that's slow, support not answering questions and forum down. Also, pretty much useless because one also can't sort results. Anyone know more about GCD status? Thanks. |
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