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Old 02-20-2009, 06:55 AM   #1
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Anyone has been part of Beta testing Google Cash Detective? When is it out in the market? Reviews?

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Warriors,

Anyone has been part of Beta testing Google Cash Detective? When is it out in the market? Reviews?

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oh almighty god,

not again!!!!!!

GCD will be back?

I was part of the first release of this product,, and it was way the biggest failure in internet history,
Don't know if there're improvements to the software, but it was one of the most painful experiences in my life,
Chris Carpenter is a good marketer, I learned from his google cash ebook, but this software affected his image significantly

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Try some good alternatives such as ppcbully and keywordspy. These services are far better than googlecash detective.


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Im using it now and they have really got it working like a champ.
When it first came out it really sucked but now I can see every keyword for any
ppc campaign on google and how long the ad has been running in minutes
in my opinion it really does what they say it does and there are no monthly fees.
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Yep, forget what you heard about GCD first time around. I've used just about every spy tool there is (PPC Bully, iSpionage, Zamdoo, Under Cover Profits, AdSpyPro, etc.) and this is the best.

Main reason is that it has a database of a couple million keywords and has been tracking them for several months. All I do is drop in a keyword, and I see every advertiser's ad that has been running against it, and how long they have been running.

All other tools require you to enter your keywords, then wait until they BEGIN searching on them, from that day forward. So you'll wait 20-30 days to see if the keyword is still being run by an advertiser.

GCD gives you that data now, so it slashes the time it takes to enter a market. It lets you see all the advertisers ads and in some cases you can see what other markets that advertiser is in (useful if you want to track and emulate a superaffiliate.)

I went through the pain of the first GCD launch, and was skeptical when I heard it was back out. But I've been using it for a month, entering markets profitably, as well as expanding my keywords for existing markets I am in.

I can tell you Chris has done a real good job of turning the GCD ship around. Keep an eye out for the launch (although I am part of the beta I am not privvy to the launch date.)

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What do you mean there is no monthly fee? I just signed up and there is!
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What do you mean there is no monthly fee? I just signed up and there is!
I don't think you've signed up for version 2 my friend as the launch date is not till 10th March.
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Yes - there is a monthly fee for Google Cash Detective. Some beta users
received a complimentary membership, to exchange for honest feedback.

This is the best spy software on the market - full stop.

Chris has invested over $350,000 into developing the software.
I don't know many other gurus who have spent that sort of money ...

In fact - I know of none

GCD is pretty insane! (Full disclosure - I'm associated with this product)
The upcoming launch videos will completely "re-define" the way the
Internet Marketing community thinks about spy tools in general.

It took me less than 5 minutes to "find and clone" an unbelievably
profitable, long-term affiliate marketing campaign, created by
some poor fellow ...

He (she?) probably ensured months of hard 'trial & error', attempting to
find the most profitable keywords. Which advertisements got the most
clicks. How much to pay per click. What position to place advertisements,
and most important of all- what actual product to promote ...

And yet - I cloned the entire campaign, from top to bottom in less
than five minutes. It's instantly profitable. I got it all down on video.

Like I said ... this software is about to change *everything*.

No one's affiliate campaigns are safe any more ...

Even landing page campaigns get ripped to pieces and totally revealed.

No one is safe. Everyone's successful affiliate marketing secrets are
about to be unveiled in just weeks ...

If you have an existing, Google Cash direct linking, or landing page
orientated campaign (that's making you money right now) ... well,
it's only a matter of time until you have dozens of competitors.

The longer you have been making money - the most trouble you're in.

Google Cash Detective 2 allows customers to peer into the entire PPC
campaign of literally anyone. Millions of keywords are being tracked.
Millions and MILLIONS of advertisements. Affiliate links - and dozens
of other metrics. This software is 100 times more powerful than the
next most powerful spy tool. (That's not even an exaggeration ...)

It's an entire order of magnitude better. This will change things.

I'm not going to reveal anymore - because we're jumping ahead of
the launch here (actually, we jumping ahead of the pre-launch!) but
make sure you watch the upcoming videos.

Chris is about to drop a bomb on the internet affiliate marketing industry,
just like he did back in 2003, when he released the original Google Cash
system - that revealed how to combine PPC advertising and affiliate
marketing. He was basically the first to reveal this type of system,
and he has always been on the cutting edge ... but this software
will create a massive impact.

I can't wait!
Jonathan Paul
P.S. - Full disclosure - I am associated with the upcoming GCD launch.

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If you have an existing, Google Cash direct linking, or landing page
orientated campaign (that's making you money right now) ... well,
it's only a matter of time until you have dozens of competitors.
This is really true no matter what...

Google has slapped any sort of direct-linking pretty hard and if all you're doing is using a landing page then you're years behind the curve anyway.

Tools like this will never stop those that are using Adwords to build lists and promote products...and that's where the real money is.

This is not an attack on GCD, but food for thought about how most people go about trying to make money. Remember, if you steal a campaign because it's flagged by GCD...then someone else can do the same to you.

If Chris really does have hundreds of thousands invested in this software, then no doubt he had a feature built in that will auto-flag long running campaigns and notify him of them...that's the problem with these types of systems. You never know what is being done with the data.

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Tools like this will never stop those that are using Adwords
to build lists and promote products...and that's where the
real money is.
I agreed 100% ...

And GCD makes it easier than ever, to identify exactly these types
of advertisers. You will know which keywords they are advertising under,
what position their advertisements are in, their entire long-term history
(both success and failed ads), the actual copy used in their adverts
(including every variation they ever tried - both good and bad), and
their keywords, cost per clicks and much, much more ...

With this information, you can decide to clone their entire strategy,
and setup your own landing page, to build a similar list. As you would
know - *most* affiliates that attempt to build a list using Adwords
simply FAIL - because it's really expensive to grow a list in highly
competitive industries ...

And yet GCD points out the exact people doing it .... from thousands
who are failing - (and who have already failed). You can effortlessly
move into a brand new niche, and build a mailing list - by cloing the
exact strategies of proven, long-term advertisers ...

Simply identifying these people is often near impossible, especially
across thousands of keywords ... and yet GCD does it in seconds,
with about 4 mouse clicks. You can start, by cloning the winners!
(And this allows you to avoid mistakes, and costly trial and error)

The software is currently monitoring millions of keywords ...

(And funny enough, thousands and thousands and thousands of
long-term, super successful direct linking campaigns that prove
the simple notion that direct linking is FAR FROM DEAD!)[/quote]

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If Chris really does have hundreds of thousands invested in this software, then no doubt he had a feature built in that will auto-flag long running campaigns and notify him of them...that's the problem with these types of systems. You never know what is being done with the data.
I think he got a bargain - even having spent 350k on development. lol

And *ALL* members have the same ability to flag long-term successful
campagins, in any niche, for any keyword. Just so you know - there are
thousands and thousands and thousands of successful long-term
affiliate marketing campaigns worth cloning ...

Certainly more than Chris could ever hope to clone ...

It would take an entire army to flag and clone all of the SUCCESSFUL
long-term, direct linking campaigns - let alone the successful squeeze
page, list building campaigns.

We're talking about the entire PPC industry ...

Millions of keywords. Millions of advertising campaigns. And, without
even exaggerating - millions of opportunities to identify and clone
long-term successful, affiliate marketing campaigns of all types

I can't wait for the launch. I'm like a giddy school child!

- Too much advertising ...
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My point was that you can never "clone" someone building a list via Adwords with a simple tool.

I have an autoresponder loaded with 2 years worth of messages, affiliate promos and promos for my own products running under some of my Adwords ads. THAT is how you negate the competition.

In addition, quality score makes the issue clouded even further. I have the position I do on some keywords because of my CTR, account history, keywords history etc. Google also looks at the way your ad groups are set up as well...GCD can't see that.

You could clone my exact ad and Google would say, "sorry, poor quality score" while for me it's great because of my history and positive account history and the way I've structured my ad groups and keyword groups.

As you know, two ads right next to each other may vary in price wildly thanks to quality score.

As you said, you're involved with the product so obviously you view it favorably. My point was simply that the "easy pickins" out there are short-lived anyway.

I think very very few people have the mindset to capitalize on tools like GCD, most people are just chasing the next big thing.

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I agree with all of your points

Yes - cloning sophisticated campaigns like the one you describe is not easy.
That's why I prefer to clone simple, successful campains using GCD. There
are over 66,000 according to my recent search results. It only took me
about 5 minutes to find them all, using a single wildcard search.

Chris has some stunning videos coming out soon. I hope he has a sweet
offer for Warriors. That would be awesome

- Too much advertising ...
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NewQuestions,

If Chris sells thousands of copies of GCD aren't we all going to be replicating each others profitable campaigns and there by pushing up bid prices and making the campains unprofitable anyway.

So in the end what was gained. It's a lose lose situation.

If he invested $350K in this software he's going to want to sell lots of copies and therefore negating any value or competitive edge it may bring to the user.

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I have personally found hundreds of thousands of long-term successful
affiliate marketing campaigns. There are literally millions of advertisements
in Adwords. GCD is watching over 20 million Ad combinations right now,
and that number is growing exponentially each week ...

What most people fail to realize is ... the "Internet Marketing" community
is unbelievably small. The people who represent the cutting edge of this
technology, are small in number. And, the people make a "full-time living"
promoting affiliate programs - are even smaller in number ...

There is simply no way that we could all "clone each other's campaigns".
There are hundreds of millions of successful Adwords combinations.

It is not a "lose-lose" situation either ...

If you start by cloning a successful campaign - you *can* improve it.
GCD allows you to leap-frog most of the "trial and error" and mistakes.

By cloning successful, long-term campaigns, you start at a point that
takes other affiliates months to arrive at ... and as a result, your bid
prices will be lower - and will continue to drop ...

It is also important to note - that very limited people will have access
to GCD. This is a high ticket item. It offers insight into the entire PPC
industry that is unrivaled. There is simply no other software that is
even close to Google Cash Detective. It is very comprehensive ...

The way I see it ... this is like WordTracker on steroids. Millions and
millions of keywords. Millions of ads. Four months of historical data.

The ability to find successful "long-term" affiliate marketing campaigns
in just seconds - across thousands of different niche industries. This
is a complete game changer ...

Transparency and serious competitor analysis has "arrived" in PPC.







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Thanks... that makes sense.

It sounds like you are limiting the number of copies that will be sold. For real or scarcity tactic?

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The "scarcity" idea is actually defined by the needs of the software.

It's not so much the software and hardware - but more the "demands"'
placed on the Google search engine, backend APIs and stuff. There will
certainly be "limited" memberships - and not simply because scarcity
boosts conversion rates.

It's a heavy, complicated system - but it needs to run lightning fast.
(And it does) - Think of Wordtracker, or Aweber etc. These top-tier
services run really fast, even though they're quite complicated ...

The GCD software exists in a cloud computing server environment, and
up-scales very easily, but it's not so easy to put more and more demands
on Google. After all - the software is investigating millions of keywords on
a daily basis ...

(And just in case anyone is worried - "No", this is not an issue.
We have arrangements in place to make sure this is appropriate)

I think most people in the Internet Marketing world, are a little skeptical
about so called scarcity. But, there will certainly be limits to the amount
of members we take in over the next few months ...

Also - just so you know ... we have video training, conference calls and
an active help desk and forum. Our main priority is looking after members.
Growing too quickly would be very dangerous. In part - that is what made
our previous launch "difficult" ...

$350,000 and 16 months later - things have been updated quite a lot.

This is the start of a brand new top-tier service. It's not a "fly by night"
operation - or a grab for cash. Just wait until you see the sort of money
Chris is making with "old Skool" direct linking. lol

The video proof is going to knock down the haters. Direct linking never
died. The original Google Cash method is even more profitable than ever,
no matter what the so called "Experts" tell you ...

How do I know?

Well - let's just say I am using GCD - a piece of software that shows me
hundreds of thousands of direct linking campaigns, that have been running
for over 4 months. All their keywords. Their ad copy. Their positions. Their
cost per clicks. Their direct linking affiliate links. Their competitors, and the
overall profitability of each campaign.

(And, my GCD membership is the same as everyone else)

There are no "super accounts or anything like that. Everyone has the
same access to ALL the data. There is simply too much opportunity to
restrict the data. There would be no point really. GCD represents the
entire Adwords market place. It offers stunning information that can
often contradict the so-called gurus.

It's not just a claim. The Google Cash Detective will prove to the world,
that direct linking is still alive and active - and used by tens of thousands
of affiliates (right now). Quality Score issues are not as divisive as many
people think. The raw data shows this plainly ...

And - as I noted above ... it's not just about direct linking. GCD also shows
you the landing page campaigns being run by hundreds of thousands of
webmasters in different niches. You can even watch slide-shows! Apple
cover-flow style - to get a feel for an industry, or a keyword ...

By identifying the successful landing page campaigns, you can clone them.
And - there are skeptics that say "No you can't" ... well ... yes you can.

In fact, I foresee an explosion in outsourcing as a result of the GCD launch.

After all, how difficult is it to clone a landing page design, if you know
which keywords the advertiser is bidding on. How much they pay. What
position their ads are in. The actual words (and every variation) of Ads
they ever ran over the last 4 months. Their success rates and those of
their competitors. The keyword volume per day and much, much more ...

It's basically like "spying" into their actual Adwords campaign - except,
you have EVEN MORE information at your disposal, because it like looking
into *everyone's* Adwords campaigns in a particular niche ...

Chris and I have already cloned 5 "long-term" successful landing page
campaigns, along with dozens of direct linking campaigns. It's easy.

No. Really. It's unbelievable easy ...

And - there are literally hundreds of thousands of campaigns in niches
we have never even considered. I love throwing random keywords into
the software, just to see who is killing it in the Adwords market place ...

I just can't wait until it launches. It's going to spawn SO MANY different
ebooks, courses, training systems and such ...

Kind of like what happened when Chris released the original Google Cash
strategies back in 2003. He was certainly one of the first in the world to
offer up his secrets ... and since then, his core advice has been copied
by hundreds of direct competitors ...

PPC is about to become a cloning "free for all". Originality is over-rated!
(especially when you can lose HUGE money through PPC trial and error)


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KeyWordSpy allows "professional" members
(the highest level of membership) to monitor
500 keywords per month (for $139!/month!) ...

Google Cash Detective allows you to monitor an unlimited amount.
(Which is just perfect when you find an advertiser who has 10,000+
keywords. You can monitor them all. Try doing that with Keywordspy!)

There is simply no software that is even in the "same league" as GCD ...

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Thanks Jonathan for the detailed answers.

Can you give us a ballpark on what the price range will be?
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Sorry - at this stage, I cannot give out pricing details ...

They are not finalised, and that's not my call at all. My role is
more in technical support and public relations etc.

However, I do know it has a lower monthly fee than KeywordSpy
and most other comparable tools. The pricing strategy is actually
a balance between the "resources used" and the opportunity.

This might sound a little whacky ... but the software becomes more
powerful as more and more people use it. It also becomes more powerful
over time, as the historical data continues to accumulate. You can dump
your own keywords into the system as well ... so it continues growing ...

And - just in case you're worried ...

No - nobody is going to "steal" your well-researched keywords. In fact,
they are most likely already in the system. There are millions and millions
of keywords in the system already. We want customers to dump all of
their keywords into the system ... because it offers the best view
of *every* PPC niche industry.

(And like I said above - there are millions of affiliate marketing opporunties.
This entire concept will NEVER be saturated. And the owner cannot take
advantage of the raw data any more than an average user. There is far
too much opportunity here, for any one person to "hoard" ...)

Price will be kept lower than competitors to attract new customers,
and also new content/keywords - but also high enough to maintain
stability and speed etc. It's not strictly a "money grab" pricing strategy.

I do know one thing though ... and this might also sound a little cliche.

The price is going to go up. Not down. As more data is accumulated,
the gulf between GCD and its spy competitors widens by the hour ...

It's not an idle threat either. Chris has plans to make this software
an industry staple. There are companies that spend hundreds of
thousands of dollars, each and every month on Pay Per Click advertising.

These types of people are VERY interested in competitor analysis,
and $100 a month is a bit of a joke to them to be honest. In fact,
we considered pricing the system at around $10,000 a month.

It's worth it ... if you save that much money, or MAKE that much money
as a result of the data. Believe me ... there are loads of companies in this
situation ...

We're just lucky Chris is a PPC affiliate like most of us. His stats are
stunning. Just mind blowing, and now he reveals his secret tool. lol



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Please let me know,does it contain any tutorial about PPC and do you recommend the system for newbie?
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Yes ... the Google Cash Detective is basically perfect for beginners.

The team has spent a LOT of time developing videos, and all customers
receive a free copy of the brand new Google Cash 4 Home Study Course.

This is the premier PPC and Affiliate Marketing course. It has stood the
test of time, and has been around since 2003. This is the 4th edition ...

The current beta testers are very excited (and satisfied) with the training
videos, and we are developing an environment of profit ... sounds cool right?

The JVs are sending out info some time tonight or tomorrow ...


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google cash = google adword technic yes or no.

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I'm a beta tester, supposed to be getting one to one support, this is not the case i have more questions than answers, support atre VERY slow, and zero one on one, never recieved google cash 4 either!!! bit annoyed i had such high hopes to !!!!
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all these products with google in their names gets confusing. ive learned this much that there arent any miracle solutions. it takes a combination of strategies and systems i guess to make money online because if you put all your eggs in one basket you could end up screwed by a google slap or some other kind of disaster.
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Yes - cloning sophisticated campaigns like the one you describe is not easy.
That's why I prefer to clone simple, successful campains using GCD. There
are over 66,000 according to my recent search results. It only took me
about 5 minutes to find them all, using a single wildcard search.
Jonathan thanks for your posts about this product, they are quite informative. I have a couple of questions. You mentioned the product is perfect for beginners; does it tell how to do a search like you described (to find simple campaigns), and does it teach how to properly "clone" campaigns?

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Google has slapped any sort of direct-linking pretty hard and if all you're doing is using a landing page then you're years behind the curve anyway.
Running PPC Web Spy ATM and I still see a TON of Direct Linking going on..

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..Remember, if you steal a campaign because it's flagged by GCD...then someone else can do the same to you...
True..but how you convert that traffic will have a greater impact on YOUR bottom line...copy my ads all you want, but if you can't convert the click you got instead of me...then does it really matter who copied who? I don't think so and that's where I see the 'winners' breaking away from the 'wanna-bees'.

Then again, this is just my opinion on the matter anyway...we'll see though once GDC comes out and we start getting some initial feedback from the users of the software and whether or not it works.


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I just saw the two first videos (about 30m each) and I admit my jaw dropped, it looks so damn amazing - it seemingly takes out all the guesswork out of it. In fact, I've never seen such a product. Looks the closest to an automatic money machine possible.

That's why I came here, to see comments on it. I hope more beta testers comment for the forum. checkmuldoon's experience looks a far too common one these days - amazing launch campaigns followed by zero customer support once you're in.


And NewQuestions is biased like he said himself. He basically repeats what we see in the ads and videos. So I'm sceptical, but if it does what it says, it's simply amazing. I want to know the price that's for sure.
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I just saw the videos my self..interesting stuff indeed...however the fact that it has a database with all those direct linking campaigns is a turn off for me...Your going to have a bunch of people looking at the same information/data set...kind of kills the point.

Personally, anything related to spying I want to be kept private and seen by my eyes only...Right now my favorite spy tool is ppc kahuna. I got in on the beta and its turns out to be pretty bad ass. There is alot of aspects to the system (a tool that works like speed PPC, a landing page generator thats like LPgen, A bunch of training videos and PDF's on how to use the tools for PPC and SEO, ect) but the core element is a desktop tool that allows you to pretty much do what all these spy tools do just privately on your own computer. The downside is you your using your own computer resources and your building your own database, but over all it's much more flexible and safer IMO.

You can add custom detection strings to pretty much catch a direct link from any affiliate network. It comes pre loaded with something like 20 networks already..You can also get creative and have it look for tracking ids/codes to catch smart affiliates who are not direct linking but using landing pages. The fact they use tracking URLs shows they know what they are doing...

I also hear they any day now they will be adding the ability to track not just PPC ads on google, but on yahoo and msn...should be freaking killer.

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That PPC Kahuna looks like the bomb too. But going back to "all have access to the database", wouldn't Chad and his crew be shooting themselves in the foot by sharing this if that were true?

While there may be millions of affiliate offers out there, the winners make up a pretty low number, probably below 10 000, if that. So we compete for those. Still, that's a lot. And his database is supposed to contain lots of other networks besides the overused clickbank.

I hope we get more feedback from Beta testers.
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a little out of box thinking is required when you use a program like gcdetective. even if there are only 10,000 affiliate offers that are winners the keyword database holds like 2 million keywords.

For the same keyword there can be 100 different affiliates direct linking 100 different offers. So there is no real threat like 1000 people having access to gcdetective is going to saturate the market.

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Hi
If Im already a GCD member will I still keep getting the same use as I do now or will
I have to upgrade
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Hi!

Does the huge keyword list handled by GCD include languages besides english?

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I have a question for NewQuestions or anyone else who can help me out.

I watched the videos last night and I am very impressed with GC Detective. However, there is one strategy that Chris employed that has me a bit confused. I am hoping you can provide a little clarity for me.

Chris was doing a direct linking campaign with a keyword that gets over 1 million searches a month. But the display url and the destination url did not match one another.

The destination url was his clickbank hop link that takes you to the sales page at reversephonedetective.com and his display url was reversephonedetective-free.com. Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Google kill campaigns that use this tactic?

I know that Chris did not want to use "reversephonedetective.com" as the display url because another marketer was using this and he did not want to get into a bidding war. But my question is: how does he get by using "reversephonedetective-free.com" when the visitor lands on reversephonedetective.com?

Also, when you go to in reversephonedetective-free.com you can see that it is not a viable domain. Chris simply used it as a "Display" url for his campaign.

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Good question Jon. I was thinking the same thing but didn't try to go to his website like you did.
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In regard to the url question, alot of people know/knew about it..but the majority did not know..There was a way that you could set a different url on the keyword level...so while you had the same url for your destination and display url when you created your actual ads..you could go in and edit the actual keyword information and give a different url for the keyword...It was a loophole in how goolge handled it's data.

That's how Chris got around the double serving rule...he could still direct link but display his own url...I dont think this works any more...or will be killed very soon...Google talked about it recently...so unless you want to get into a bidding war on a direct linking campaign your going to be **** out of luck...

This is why I'm not to big on the idea of having a shared data base that all users can see...and query. By using the wild card as he showed in the video you and everyone else will be able to pull up all direct linking data...bah..lol. that will be fun.

I'll stick with the competition and spy data that only I have access to on my own computer...it takes more time and resources but is much more effective long term...

Reinventing the wheel...
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Hi,

GCD is a pretty awesome tool - but just a tool. Great for niche research and campaign planning - a way to see what is already working for someone and "copy the best" as they say. If this is an area you are struggling in then GCD is worth a look.

A mate of mine is one of the beta testers and he is completely in love with Google Cash Detective. We are comparing it against Keyword Spy and the main benefits for GCD seem to be:
* data is updated daily
* The "slide show" feature that displays landing pages etc. for all ads for a keyword in a very sexy "flip book" style (very "iPhone" app style)

My mate uses the "flip book" feature to help get a feel for the niche if it's not something he's familiar with - see what sort of bonuses people are offering too.

The wildcard searching is killer (though you can do this in Keyword Spy too).

So GCD is a tool that will help ensure you target profitable niches with proven keywords that convert. (Or at least keywords someone has been willing to consistently spend money on!). It will save you investing time and money "trying out" campaigns.

I would certainly suggest pairing it up with a good conversion tracking tool like Xtreme Conversions or Affiliate Prophet. (There may be others - XC is my personal favorite!) This would help ensure you ditch any non-converting keywords.

Hope this helps.

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how much it will be sold?
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That's how Chris got around the double serving rule...he could still direct link but display his own url...I dont think this works any more...or will be killed very soon...Google talked about it recently...so unless you want to get into a bidding war on a direct linking campaign your going to be **** out of luck...
Yeah the video really downplays the No Direct Linking issue as a myth, by simply saying - see the 100's of others doing it? From the little I know and the little ive read about this - WTF if google shuts down your AdWords account for direct linking too often? You can only say Oooops Sorry Im a newbie so many times. Is this a real or non issue? After that ...

Additionally, the "See ... this is a for sure winner - profitable campaign - see theyve had it running for 56 of 97 days" Its profitable because why? Chris says so? Some dude is still willing to chase $ on it? There was an insurance example in there for AIG Direct ... looky there a For Sure winner $1000 a day campaign - search volume and length of time an advertiser was willing to spend. $10 a click! BTW, AIG is in deep sheeeeite - not sure Id due an ad spend on pimping their products [ and Im in the biz and sell a ton o' their stuff {in the past} - cant give it away these days ]

Chris has obviously spent plenty of time with Frank Kern

Seems if you could get clear resolute answers to the two things above and Im sure there are far more ... youd have a damn good tool there.

Would love to hear more thoughts from people in this game full time.

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4morereferrals thanks for opening my eyes.I knew something was not right when I was watching the videos.the keywords he is saying is a hanging fruit profitable running 100/100 days and yet when I did Google search no one was advertising for that keyword ,fishy.
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Looking at the GCD videos, there appears to be a deficiency...if the database has collected all that data, then why not just create a report of the highest search volume keywords with consistently displayed affiliate direct link ads...and then work down from the top of the list constructing your direct link campaigns?

If you don't care what you're an affiliate for, then this would be THE KEY search result - and one they can surely do at GCD...they have all the data - it appears on the screen - and it's just a quick report to write!

But it doesn't appear to be built into the software! So while the customer is left guessing and browsing for the good opportunities - and with 2.5 million keywords that doesn't produce a huge competitive problem - but the vendor? Well they can go straight to the answers!

So the punter pays for the development costs, and the vendor gets to cherry pick the opportunities! Nice!

Even so, it looks like it would speed up niche research...dramatically!

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The videos are cool.

But I haven't heard one beta tester say they made money with it.

I tested each campaign from his videos exactly as he laid them out.
I'm not a rookie.

Not one made money.

Who cares that you can search campaigns in 5 minutes if it doesn't make money.
Who cares that it's following millions of keywords if it doesn't make money.

I want to hear dollars and cents from a beta tester.
I don't want to hear the hype.
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It does sound very intriguing, but gotta agree:

Let's here some earning stats from a couple of beta testers,
instead of all the hype.

I was about to move to PPC Bully... guess I'll wait.
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I did the same as you and tested the reverse phone detective. So far I have had many clicks as he did but made $0. What the heck am I doing wrong?
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The videos are cool.

But I haven't heard one beta tester say they made money with it.

I tested each campaign from his videos exactly as he laid them out.
I'm not a rookie.

Not one made money.

Who cares that you can search campaigns in 5 minutes if it doesn't make money.
Who cares that it's following millions of keywords if it doesn't make money.

I want to hear dollars and cents from a beta tester.
I don't want to hear the hype.

Good point Vince. Chris said in his last email that the system would make money in 10 minutes, that "This technique works 100% of the time." and "I have a 100% success rate."

Well then the beta testers should also have the same results...WHERE ARE THEY?

I also love the videos and would seriously consider purchasing this product. But show me the money first.

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You don't mess with Chris Carpenter. I got his back! This guy is as honest a human being can be. His products and software are craazyyyy! I will hundripple (new word for X 100) my income with the new GCD! So, if you want to be on the boat and start making real sniper special opps elite force delta alpha simon says kind of money then Chris is your guy! Period!

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Btw, I did what he said manually in the pre launch videos and I made money. I made around $215 with the reverse phone detective and only spend $65 on ppc. Manually guys in 3 days! Do you know how much I will be making if I had the software and could clone like 20 campaigns per week and would set a budget of $500 a day? That would be a nice and juicy 30 or 40K per month. I mean.. thats just awsome, hello? anybody there? I said awsome oke! Well, this train is going to leave so you better decide if you want to hop on.

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Good question Jon. I was thinking the same thing but didn't try to go to his website like you did.
What he did was DOMAIN FORWARDING AND MASKING.
Very simple and I have done it all the time and Google never Bitch slapped me for it.

I always go to godaddy.com and buy a domain that has something of my main keyword in it. Then I go to my domain manager and click on the forward tab. There I copy and paste my affiliate link. then I click on 301. Then I go to the masking tab and click on masking enable and I write a masking title.

Then I wait 5 minutes so that godaddy can set everything up.
What I then do is go to adwords and I fill in both the destination and display url the same domain that I have forwarded with Godaddy.

Easy as 1,2 3 and now you dont have to go on a bidding war with someone and you are still direct linking. Something I learned from Michael Macks or whatever his name is

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