instant niche maker

15 years ago

I just came across Instant niche maker however there is no information about it in WF but it sounds interesting I will do a research and post

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jkatzenback

15 years ago

These tools like this rely on you making 1000s of sites. It is basically liek the old directory generator days but not scraping the search results for content.

If you can dedicate time to building lots and lots of sites (remember hosting and domains) then sure it will work.. but if you are only going to build a few dozen sites, then save your money.

Be cheaper to install a blog and add it to a system like syndicatekahuna.com that will give you content for free.

Just my 2 cents.

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papeter

15 years ago

Had a look inside this and the demo sites look boring and slow loading. There will be hundreds of sites looking similar if not the same.

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Elliott

15 years ago

This service makes it's money through the hosting fees, which cost up to $47/month for the Platinum upgrade. The Silver is $19.95/month, Gold is $27./month.

You can get a reseller account from Hostgator for $25/month, and buy your own sitebuilder software at a one-time payment. You could then offer this kind of service yourself, once you learn to use your site builder.

Instant Niche Maker does not require you to get a lot of domains - you can build your sites on subdomains of their domain, or presumably, your own domain if you upgrade.

But, there are software such as SiteBuilder Elite which you can buy and use to build
as many sites as you like on subdomains of one domain of your own, so you don't even have to have a reseller account. You can get a "Baby Gator" account for $10./month or even use a free account such as Free Web Hosting with PHP, MySQL and cPanel, No Ads. Then you can customize your sites anyway you want.

Also, at any given time, there are several good sitebuilder offers in the WSO forum.

Just use the forum "Search" function to look for "sitebuilder", for example.

One key question in shopping for a sitebuilder is - will it build sites on subdomains or add-on domains? If it will not, then you will have to have a reseller account and buy a domain for each site you want to build.

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schnisz

15 years ago

I was attracted to the "auto seo" function and immediate backlinks etc. I like the fact that you can crank out sites but I think it said 15 to start and only 5 per month up to 1000 though. Thats kind of limiting. Is this what Firepow does?

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psresearch

15 years ago

Originally Posted by schnisz

I was attracted to the "auto seo" function and immediate backlinks etc. I like the fact that you can crank out sites but I think it said 15 to start and only 5 per month up to 1000 though. Thats kind of limiting. Is this what Firepow does?

I'm not a member of Firepow, but from what I've seen and read at Andrew Hansen's site, the Firepow system is light-years ahead of InstantNicheMaker.

Firepow seems to have packaged a lot of technology together that you could piece together from other places along with it's own proprietary technology.

For example, some of what Firepow does you could do with some of the tools from Mass-Automation, but Firepow has it's own technology as well.

I haven't looked at how it's automating link-building. I remember it was posting to bookmarking sites at one point, but it wasn't clear if it was doing any randomization of the selection of the sites or if the links could be dripped over time.

You might want to look at some of the demo sites at InstantNicheMaker and compare them to Firepow sites.

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jordanmalik

15 years ago

I'm really late to the party.

I *don't* recommend Mike Enos' InstantNicheMaker.com product/service, and for one singular very good reason: The core hosting domain "topsitesnow.com" (with which a instantNichemaker.com customer hosts their niche sites with) has been, apparently, banned from Google natural search engine results. Let me explain.

Internet marketing experts talk about 'avoid leaving a 'footprint' if you have multiple web sites'. What that means is that Google (the leading search engine) is very smart when it comes to first a.) identifying 'misleading' sites that are just slapped together with the objective of making money, without any true value to the reader, and THEN b.) looking for technical clues that the site may share with other sites, and THEN c.) removing those similar sites, in addition to the one mentioned in (a), from their organic search listings, in one fell swoop.

(If you're an internet marketer of any degree, you need to rely on Google's organic search results (those results displayed on the left hand side of the screen when you do a search on Google.com) to get traffic to your site).

Well, as I discovered after building a couple niche sites with Mike Enos' InstantNicheMaker.com (which is otherwise a fine product), i noticed that whatever niche site you build, it "shares" hosting with a domain Enos set up specifically for this venture: topsitenow.com. As an example, you can view one i set up: iphone-headphones.topsitenow.com. The Problem is that after some InstantNicheMaker customers (presumably) threw up some 'worthless' sites using Enos' product, and Google caught on and saw the 'footprint' (the core domain topsitenow.com), and has thus stripped all the topsitenow.com sites from their natural search index. Thus, my (legitimate) site iphone-headphones.topsitenow.com has nearly zero-to-no chance of being listed in Google's natural search results. EVER.

You want to see proof now, right? Here's how (bear with me).

1.) Go to Google.com
2.) Type in the search bar exactly this (without the quotation marks): "site:*.topsitenow.com". What this does is it makes google search for ANY site with the root domain topsitenow.com in the index.
3.) You'll see that NO sites are listed.
4.) FOR COMPARISON: In Google.com do a similar search but type (without the quotation marks): "site:*.dell.com". You'll see (via observing the natural search results) that Google HAS indexed everything with the ".dell.com" domain, including support.dell.com (it is about the 4th or 5th listing down).
5.) As another example for comparison, do a search for "site:.compaq.com", and you'll see Google has indexed "askq.compaq.com" (about the 2nd listing down).

In other words, those sites with the .compaq.com and .dell.com root domains are 'legitimate' sites (obviously), and google thus has not de-indexed them (as it did with everything with the root domain .topsitenow.com).

<whew>

So what do I recommend? If you want a niche site, build it from the ground up using Wordpress.com. I don't have a resource site handy on how to start, but there are plenty out there (start with Wordpress' FAQ). Here is one that i am working on now: BatmanReviews .com

With a little bit of courage, you will be able to do everything to your niche site that InstantNichemaker.com automates/does for you. It will just take you a little more time. You could also outsource the entire project to someone on elance.com for (my rough estimate) between $100 and $250 (you'll need to rely on a non-US-based elancer, to get those rates).Hope this helps!

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Jojane 15 years ago

I also looked at the instant niche maker, but was mainly interested in the price comparison side of it. can anyone suggest a plugin, script, etc that will generate these product price comparisons for a wordpress site? thanks
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Mikee17

14 years ago

Hi,
This is Mike Enos founder of Instant Niche Maker.

What Jordan Said in the quote below WAS partially true. For a while Google put INM (Instant Niche Maker) in the "sandbox". Google commonly does this when a site comes out of no where and takes off like crazy.
(Some call it the "Google Dance")

During this time, we recommended that members go and buy a domain name at Godaddy, for example, a MyDomain.info for 99 cents for a year and use that. (Or splurge and get yourself one of them fancy .com ones

)

We still recommend that. Seriously... if you can't afford a buck for a domain name, then maybe you should be rethinking your online career.:rolleyes:

We are currently creating version 2 of the site and it's going to blow you away.

..Mike Enos

Originally Posted by jordanmalik

I'm really late to the party.

I *don't* recommend Mike Enos' InstantNicheMaker.com product/service, and for one singular very good reason: The core hosting domain "topsitesnow.com" (with which a instantNichemaker.com customer hosts their niche sites with) has been, apparently, banned from Google natural search engine results. Let me explain.

Internet marketing experts talk about 'avoid leaving a 'footprint' if you have multiple web sites'. What that means is that Google (the leading search engine) is very smart when it comes to first a.) identifying 'misleading' sites that are just slapped together with the objective of making money, without any true value to the reader, and THEN b.) looking for technical clues that the site may share with other sites, and THEN c.) removing those similar sites, in addition to the one mentioned in (a), from their organic search listings, in one fell swoop.

(If you're an internet marketer of any degree, you need to rely on Google's organic search results (those results displayed on the left hand side of the screen when you do a search on Google.com) to get traffic to your site).

Well, as I discovered after building a couple niche sites with Mike Enos' InstantNicheMaker.com (which is otherwise a fine product), i noticed that whatever niche site you build, it "shares" hosting with a domain Enos set up specifically for this venture: topsitenow.com. As an example, you can view one i set up: iphone-headphones.topsitenow.com. The Problem is that after some InstantNicheMaker customers (presumably) threw up some 'worthless' sites using Enos' product, and Google caught on and saw the 'footprint' (the core domain topsitenow.com), and has thus stripped all the topsitenow.com sites from their natural search index. Thus, my (legitimate) site iphone-headphones.topsitenow.com has nearly zero-to-no chance of being listed in Google's natural search results. EVER.

You want to see proof now, right? Here's how (bear with me).

1.) Go to Google.com
2.) Type in the search bar exactly this (without the quotation marks): "site:*.topsitenow.com". What this does is it makes google search for ANY site with the root domain topsitenow.com in the index.
3.) You'll see that NO sites are listed.
4.) FOR COMPARISON: In Google.com do a similar search but type (without the quotation marks): "site:*.dell.com". You'll see (via observing the natural search results) that Google HAS indexed everything with the ".dell.com" domain, including support.dell.com (it is about the 4th or 5th listing down).
5.) As another example for comparison, do a search for "site:.compaq.com", and you'll see Google has indexed "askq.compaq.com" (about the 2nd listing down).

In other words, those sites with the .compaq.com and .dell.com root domains are 'legitimate' sites (obviously), and google thus has not de-indexed them (as it did with everything with the root domain .topsitenow.com).

<whew>

So what do I recommend? If you want a niche site, build it from the ground up using Wordpress.com. I don't have a resource site handy on how to start, but there are plenty out there (start with Wordpress' FAQ). Here is one that i am working on now: BatmanReviews .com

With a little bit of courage, you will be able to do everything to your niche site that InstantNichemaker.com automates/does for you. It will just take you a little more time. You could also outsource the entire project to someone on elance.com for (my rough estimate) between $100 and $250 (you'll need to rely on a non-US-based elancer, to get those rates).Hope this helps!

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Boris_yo 13 years ago

You obviously don't know the difference between sandboxing and deindexing.
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- lsamarketer 13 years ago
  
  I checked this product (INM) out after a webinar hosted by James Jones (Micro Niche Finder MNF). I figured that anything recommended by James is worth a shot.
  
  I tried to build a review site for a vacuum cleaner product, and did some keyword research using MNF, and came up with the keyword "my product name review." The site generated in a few seconds just as promised, but the content was irrelevent to my vacuum cleaner product. In fact, one of the posts was about vacuums in space. Also, the adsense ads, which were supposed to be targeted to my niche, were all about automobiles.
  
  After submitting a support ticket, I was told that I had to use the keyword suggestion tool provided with INM, and that my best choice was "myproductname vacuums." However, all of my keyword reasearch tools including MNF, Market Samurai, and Traffic Travis, all showed that this broad keyword could never be ranked for.
  
  Anyway, in their support email response to me, they included a test copy of a site using their own choice of the broad keyword phrase, and although most of the content was more niche-specific, the post about vacuums in space was still there, and so were the adsense ads about autos. Also, there were posts about other vacuum cleaners. Support did not even address my concern about the choice of keywords, they just basically said; "Here's what you have to do..."
  
  Basically, it does not let you decide upon what niche you choose, you have to work around whatever it gives you. The extensive editing that is required invalidates the whole "instant niche" making idea.
  
  The most troubling part was that they suggested I go to their forum for additional help from other users. But when I did, I came across a few posts about people having their adsense accounts disabled. One person swears that all of his content was edited for originality. This alone, is enough to make me request a refund.
  
  Maybe Mike Enos would like to jump in here and respond to this. I would welcome a better explaination than what I recieved from INM support. I have yet to request a refund, but unless he can properly address these issues, I will be doing so soon.
  
  Paul
  
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  Mikee17 13 years ago
  
  Hi,
  
  This is Mike Enos, founder of InstantNicheMaker.com.
  
  This is in response to lsamarketer / Paul's comments above.
  
  First I want to thank Paul for spending a good amount of time to explain his concerns in a professional non-complaining manner.
  
  I wanted to clarify and explain some things mentioned by Paul
  
  Q) I tried to build a review site for a vacuum cleaner product, and did some keyword research using MNF, and came up with the keyword "my product name review."
  The site generated in a few seconds just as promised, but the content was irrelevent to my vacuum cleaner product.
  In fact, one of the posts was about vacuums in space.
  
  A) Great example of a limitation of niche keywords. The word vacuum has several meanings in English.
  Looking it up at Vacuum | Define Vacuum at Dictionary.com lists 10 different meanings of the word.
  
  Another example that comes to mind is if you were to make a niche site about "cougars" you'd have to be careful since that keyword can refer to the beautiful animal, or an older woman pursuing a younger man. QUITE A DIFFERENCE.
  
  Instant Niche Maker is like any other tool. It may take a little while to learn how to best use it to get the results you want.
  Fortunately, when you create a site in 25 seconds, you can then easily go and fine tune the keywords you use to get more relevant results. You can either modify the site you already created, or just go and create the entire site again.
  
  Think about it this way...
  
  Suppose you had a website building friend who said they would build you a website about any topic for free.
  All he required is that you tell him what you wanted the site to be about.
  
  How much time would it take you to type up a specification for this niche site? Probably at a minimum a few hours of time.
  
  Then after submitting the specification the designer would miss things or misinterpret parts of the spec."Oh, THAT's what you meant."
  
  Once he delivered the site, chances are you would ask him to move this, change that, modify this, etc...
  
  That's how websites are made.
  
  Instant Niche Maker is like that designer, except much faster, and it charges you about $3.58 to build (and host) that niche site.
  
  Although Paul was trying to build a site about a different brand. Out of respect for his privacy, I made a test site about a different brand Hoover Vacuums.
  
  Below is the site created in 55 seconds from start to display. That included typing in the keywords and web title text.
  All About Hoover Vacuums
  
  Notice that the third blog post is entitled "What exactly is the vacuum in outer space?"
  Is this relevant? No!
  
  But you easily go and delete that auto-blog post in 15 seconds.
  
  If you were WAY off, you probably would be better to try a different set of keywords and take a couple of sips of coffee while
  waiting for it to be built.
  
  The point is this....
  
  If you think that Instant Niche Maker (or any other tool) will create PERFECT sites for you by clicking a button, then
  you're going to be disappointed.
  
  Automation will NEVER be perfect. But it gives you an INCREDIBLE efficiency advantage.
  
  But if you're willing to spend 55 seconds to have a GREAT niche site built that you can spend a few seconds or minutes to fine tune,
  then this is the tool for you.
  
  Yes, it's not free. But considering the cost is about a penny a day for a built and hosted website, seriously...is there a better
  alternative?
  
  Q) Also, the adsense ads, which were supposed to be targeted to my niche, were all about automobiles.
  A) It can take Adsense a few hours to scan the page and figure out what to display. This corrects itself after a little while.
  
  Q)After submitting a support ticket, I was told that I had to use the keyword suggestion tool provided with INM,
  and that my best choice was "myproductname vacuums." However, all of my keyword reasearch tools
  including MNF, Market Samurai, and Traffic Travis, all showed that this broad keyword could never be ranked for.
  
  A) You don't "have to use" our keyword suggestion tool. In fact in the webinar we suggested both Micro Niche Finder &
  Google's own free tool to identify a worthwhile niche. What our tool does is tell you in advance how INM is going
  to do finding eBay items, News, videos, etc... using the keyword phrase you enter. This is important since a misspelling,
  or alternate spelling ie "center" instead of "centre" can make a huge difference for how much content is found and used.
  
  So while "myproductname vacuums" is not the exact phrase that you researched in the other tools, it would bring
  back relevant content to your site for that niche.
  
  Unfortunately, automation is not magic. (We're working on it, but we still have a ways to go).
  
  You may have to remake the site a few times (or adjust the keyphrases) to get INM to show what you want, and filter out
  what you don't.
  
  Again, the purpose of our keyword tool is to let you know whether or not the software will be able to build a relevant site, not whether or not it's a good niche to focus on.
  
  Q) Support did not even address my concern about the choice of keywords, they just basically said; "Here's what you have to do..."
  A) Support will make suggestions on how to correct a problem, or improve the job done, but we can't personally make sites
  for clients. Sorry if you felt they should have done more.
  
  Q)Basically, it does not let you decide upon what niche you choose, you have to work around whatever it gives you.
  The extensive editing that is required invalidates the whole "instant niche" making idea.
  
  A) If INM can create 90-95% of the perfect niche site, you have a choice. You can either
  
  1) Spend hours, even days to manually make a site from scratch.
  
  2) Understand that there is a law of diminishing returns, where having a niche site that is created in a minute
  or so is good enough to serve it's purpose.
  
  Perfectionism is an expensive personality trait! :
  
  I'll explain...
  
  It is very common for creative people to think something has to be perfect before releasing it.
  The problem is that it's painstakingly near impossible to reach perfection when creating something.
  The result is that a site is never released. People buy domain names and let them collect dust for years
  thinking "someday I'll build the site."
  
  Someday never comes because there simply is not enough time, or the cost to pay someone else to build such
  a site is prohibitively expensive that financially it makes no sense.
  
  If you ever hired an employee, you'll understand this concept. Basically an employee is a hired tool that
  you hire to get certain tasks done.
  
  When you invest in Instant Niche Maker, you are getting a tool that can create a VERY Good (not perfect) niche
  site in a few minutes for $3.58 including a year of hosting.
  
  ...That works out to 30 cents a month for a niche website.
  
  Is it perfect?
  
  No.
  
  Is the ROI (Return On Investment) small?
  
  OH YEAH! If the site makes a penny a day, you're breaking even. If the site makes 2 cents a day, you've doubled your investment.
  Make a nickel (5 cents) a day and you're return is something like 500%.
  
  Is there a better, faster, less expensive, or easier way to build a niche site (Blog, Video Squeeze Page, or PLR Product Site)
  for those with limited technical ability?
  
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  Note: In this post we're only discussing 1 out of 3 niche type sites that Instant Niche Maker can create, the blog style.
  INM can also create instant Video Squeeze Pages, and over 150 different PLR style sites.
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  Q) The most troubling part was that they suggested I go to their forum for additional help from other users.
  But when I did, I came across a few posts about people having their adsense accounts disabled.
  One person swears that all of his content was edited for originality. This alone, is enough to make me request a refund.
  
  A) Google does what Google wants with no concern or clarification. If the person's content was original and Google cancelled
  his adsense account, it doesn't seem that Instant Niche Maker was the problem. Tens of thousands of people have recently
  had their adsense account shut down without warning or reason given. If this person had built this original content website
  using Wordpress.com, or Blogger.com, or even their own Wordpress site, and got shut down by adsense,would you stop using
  those site hosts?
  
  Q) Maybe Mike Enos would like to jump in here and respond to this. I would welcome a better explaination than what
  I recieved from INM support. I have yet to request a refund, but unless he can properly address these issues, I will be doing so soon.
  
  A) Hi Paul. Hope the above is a good explanation You can reach me at admin at instant niche maker .com for additional help.
  Sorry if my support staff didn't properly address your concerns.
  
  There's always room for improvement, so I'll going to
  make steps to improve our response quality. We've been growing so fast that it can be a challenge to give everyone the time and assistance required. Just brought on a new staff member today, so we're heading in the right directin.
  
  Best Regards,
  
  ..Mike Enos
  Founder - InstantNicheMaker.com
  
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Jimp1 12 years ago

Mike,

I was interested in the backlink software (70 backlinks). I sent a ticket to support asking where the backlinks come from, and was given the rediculous answer "from the 70 sites they are created at". Very enlightening! I've since sent them 2 requests for meaningful information like from what kind of sites (blogs, forums etc.), how many different sites/domains, and PR data. The PR of the site(s) and or pages the links come from. I'm interested in buying the software if I can get some satisfactory detailed answers. I've given up on the support ticket route since they don't respond.. Hopefully you will.
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- steppinonup 12 years ago
  
  Thanks for the information that experience provides gentlemen and ladies. I was intrigued with the action and explanation that was presented on the webinar and thought this is a loaded vault awaiting removable action for the taking. Now I see the lack of productivity from INM due to the missing proclamations of $$$'s made by INM investors. Saved me $97 and many support inquiries and frustration and wasted time with lost effort and eventual refunding. Wonder if the first $12 is refundable with the initial $97 or if that is somehow covered as lost operating cost of the business owner. Oh well, over-all, not a good investment, I haven't seen ROI yet so this says "BAD NEWS". THANKS again Warriors!
  
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energytimes

13 years ago

Sounds way too expensive for me...

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Boris_yo 13 years ago

... And short term
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- mikeb1 13 years ago
  
  Sounds a decent product, maybe a wee bit pricey, but I think Mike the product owner has given good answers to the negatives written about his
  product. What you never seem to see is someone posting I made a grand in a month with this product da da de da. So lets here from anyone who genuinely has made good bucks with Mikes system if there is any.
  
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  mikeb1 13 years ago
  
  Hi Again
  
  I would also like to point out that after some 2 years went by that doing the site:*.topsitenow.com search it still doens`t show up on google
  
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  maverick4u 13 years ago
  
  Mike you said:
  
  "We are currently creating version 2 of the site and it's going to blow you away."
  
  Can you tell me whats in the works? This may tilt me to get your site maker.
  
  Also,just to clarify, are you saying that we can create the site and then transfer the site to our own domain? Is that the same SEO-wise as pointing your domain name to your hosting account? (and avoiding any possible slap or penalty?)
  
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alfrescoid

13 years ago

I was just on a webinar promoting this...I was canny enough to check out WF whilst on the webinar, and asked some questions, which mysteriously didn't get answered...wonder why? A whole bunch of "typical" questions were answered, and I can understand the hosts not wanting to put a negative spin on the presentation, but I though they were questions worth asking...

Q: Just saw on Warrior Forum someone saying that subdomains on topsitenow.com have been banned from Google. Can you do a live demo to prove that is not so??

Q: Forget the testimonials, what about the concerns???

Q: Just saw on Warrior Forum someone saying that subdomains on topsitenow.com have been banned from Google. Can you do a live demo to prove that is not so??

Q: just did a rank check on two domains hosted at topsiteblog.com. One had no rank detectable for "baseball pitching machines" and another on page 11 for "kids earphones". Can you give evidence of high organic rankings ofr any of the blogs and how you ranked them?

Q: You are answering the trivial questions, and ignoring ones asking about rank and potential Google deindexing.

Mike was then asked about duplicate content, and he gave the (outdated) advice that duplicate content is only penalised by Google if the duplicate content is on the same site. Has he not heard of the Farmer update? The webinar host should have chipped in at this point, as he has a bestseliing WSO on the Farmer update!!!

Q: The Farmer update now penalises scrape sites!!!!!

Q: C'mon John, step in here...and correct the duplicate content thing...let people know about Farmer!!

EDIT: I pasted the above questions as a block just before the end of the webinar, and that got the host's attention...but he only addressed one of the points, and showed no evidence of rankings and did not address the de-indexing mentioned in this thread etc...

There were just too many unanswered questions here...I fear they are going after newbies, and as far as that goes it's great, but I'm not convinced of the earnings potential here.

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MikesTraffic

13 years ago

I'm probably going to stay away from this one

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SGWarrior

13 years ago

I sent an email regarding some of the above concerns and queries to their support since 14 hours ago and guess what...they are not answered till now. I believe they are only targeting those newbies and those naive enuf to believe that this system will actually work. I will definitely stay away form this one..

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SGWarrior

13 years ago

Update: still no reply from them. Looks like they are desperate to get more sales in now...adding up to 350 sites per order now.

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tresfavian 13 years ago

This program has been going on since 2008 in the least. Would like to hear from any warriors who have success with this program.

I've been trying do some extensive research on it. It is so appealing but I have concerns. The forum is not very active, with not much in success stories. The sites are clean and good looking, most of content is spot on, products show good, it's all there but . . .

Most of the sites I have looked up with topsitenow or topsiteblog look so much alike. Thou said there is 100/200 themes offered. Why are they looking the same? topsiteblogs will leave a footprint. If you check many of these sites values, they are not individually scaled but in general to topsiteblogs or topsitenow statistics. At least for adsense value. So I cannot trust that information.

Personally I think the sites give value, grabs good content from other links, comparison shopping, videos but how does Google like them? Adsense probably won't like them. I like the idea of using it for CPA offers, this might work well. Put your own plr products would work too, I 'spose.

Show me the money! I realize not everyone has had success with this or maybe short lived? I hope to stir some success stories but out of fear that I better go with my instincts for now.

Can anyone vouch for this system it makes enough money to sustain itself?
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luke69

13 years ago

I guess nobody is making money with this thing, eh?

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