SEO fightback - Will it really beat Google?

I'm one of the designers behind SEO Fightback. Hi.

First off, the Pro membership is now $47, with a smaller plan at $19. There's been a change in ownership (I'm now 100% owner) which means I was able to lower the prices.

The product name is now FightBack Networks, and we're on version 2.0.

I should clarify that there is no such thing as one stop link building solution. You need a balanced portfolio of links for all but the easiest search terms.

When it comes to SEO tools, like everything else in life, dedicated tools are best. For example, ever own a washing machine that also worked as a tumble dryer? I've never heard of a good one. Tasks should be separated so each tool can attack that task without distractions or diluting its power.

Links, there are lots of them!

Forum posts
Forum profiles
Wikis
Web2.0s
Bookmarks
Facebook/Twitter
Articles (on article directories)
Paid Press Releases
Directories
Contextual page links

SEO Fightback specializes in the last one, contextual backlinks. It's not the first tool to do this, all blog networks are designed to get these links which like for like (based on the pages authority etc) are the most powerful type of link for Bing and Google. They were so powerful that Google went on a mission to destroy the big blog networks.

SEO Fightback gets these links, but is not actually a blog network, but a framework where you can build networks on your own, or with friends/associates, or just with other members. We have many new features that defend against network discovery, and all networks are separate.

Best of all you can create networks, and specify rules to fit your taste for risk/reward. Or you can join the existing niche specific networks we have built.

There is no central network that can be attacked or infiltrated. There are no footprints, it succeeds where the other blog networks have failed. Even if Matt Cutts himself signed up as a customer, he couldn't destroy it, that's the reason it's Google proof. The system protections are too many to list here, plus I don't want to tell my secrets to any Google employee who might read this!


Yes it very true, unique content is better. But I often get dupe content ranked quickly, and for good search terms. I actually feel the penguin update is more about link source content. For example, making your tier one contextual links and articles more unique. This will benefit rank more than onpage SEO if you're building link pyramids properly.


... Shall I respond to this? Looks like you're just trying to increase your post count.

Wow. This is a good example of badly-spun content, which is one reason why the WF does not come on top of search results related to SEO.

Nicer way to put it: we can control how we explain things.

The max number of sites is 100 per account, and you can create 20 networks. Bear in mind it is possible to be in 100 networks, because you allocate every site as you wish, the "20" number is just the number of networks you can create, and manage. That's not the limit of networks you can join.

All the posts and sites are checked by automated system, the only thing you have to do as a network owner (and again, this is only if you choose to), is click a link to check new sites applying to your network. It's just an extra step, all the PR, default pages, categories, anti google code etc is checked automatically. We've made the system as "lazy" as possible but for some things only a human eye can determine, like site quality.

All these checks are done on our end, so there won't be problems with Curl and other PHP permissions that some web hosts have. Again, we've really tried to make it easy.

The number of articles you post depends on 2 things, the number of site you have submitted to networks, and the daily post count for the networks you have joined.

Example:

Say you have 3 sites, and you put them into 3 different networks (you join these on the network grid). One network creator have have said 2 daily posts per domain, another 3, and the last network 5 (which is our max limit).

So your 3 domains would get you 2+3+5=10 posts per day.

The niches are all the main ones, 23 niches currently, ranging from adult/gambling to pets, loans, school/training, electronic goods and home services etc etc. We have build starter networks for 15 of those niches (I don't work in gambling or adult so I haven't built those networks). This means users already have networks they can join as soon as they come into the system.

We do have a word limit, and we also automate checks for English language posts (other language versions are coming, first Spanish, then Italian. We won't allow language mixing.).

I don't want to say what the word count limit is exactly, because then everyone will do the bare minimum and then all posts on the network will be a similar length. We need to do everything we can to reduce footprints. I will say it's less than 1000 words though currently! In future, we will allow network creators to specifiy this as a rule, further adding to the randomness of networks..

lol, thanks...:p

PHP script on our server. We have a small desktop app for bulk uploading domains, other than that everything is on our server.

Yes you do have to add blogs, here's why. The whole point of the system is it's a network of networks. If we give free points... where would they go?

We have something like 30 networks at the moment, you have to indicate your interest in a niche by entering a site. Giving open access to all the networks just for being a member defeats the whole point of the system which is to stay safe and provide an excellent ROI.

Yes you get points like ALN, but it depends on the network you're joining, they are all different (part of avoiding Google). It does NOT depend on site PR though. I always thought the whole "more PR = more points" system used by every other network is kinda dumb.

If you have a pr 4 blog, do you want to use it to earn five PR0 links, or one PR4 link? (the answer should be the second one, if you didn't know) the reason other networks did this is because they had no other way of getting people to submit higher pr blogs otherwise.

Our framework means you can join network that ONLY accept high quality blogs. PR 4s are expensive, you should want to share them with other people who understand and value the extra investment made.

Still, I do get people putting PR 1 and PR2 into some of my PR0 minimum networks.

Edit: As of November 2012 the prices are $19 or $47 depending on tier.

Ok fair enough, but what do you think is fair price? Here are some others in the market:

senukex: $167 per month
xmark-pro: $350 one time
BMR: $147 per month
SEO Link monster $147 per month
Elite Link Network: $200 per month
Backlinks Genie: $137 per month

Nothing is worth the price, unless you make money with it, maybe that's why I think SEO fight back is a good deal... because just one of my clients pays me $3k per month to get the results I get with it.

Not only that, but the 3 blog networks mentioned above are dead now.

You can have 5 blogs for $20 bucks (.infos), and host them for $38 per year with namecheap. That totals at less than $5 per month. But most of our customers already have blogs, I suppose the system is not for people who haven't even started building websites or doing SEO yet.

Ehhh... Some misunderstanding of the nature of the beast, I think.

I joined up yesterday at around midday my time. By 2pm I had all my login details. It took me around an hour to set up the 8 blogs that I wanted to enter into the network.

I then selected 8 network groups that I wanted to join, and submitted the blog that I thought matched their subjects best.

One of the groups was auto-approve, the remaining 7 were approved by the time I woke up this morning i.e. 10 minutes ago.

I can now start to submit blog posts into the system, one post per group joined, and they will be posted automatically.

There's no introduction stuff unless that's what you want. Sure you can go in the forums and arrange to make private networks with a select group, but equally you can just use the open groups.

Hope this helps

I'm not sure how you came to that conclussion. And did the other services guarantee links?

You just paid your money and got links? I don't think so. You have to make your posts and submit them. Same as our system, so if you look at it like that then we guarantee just as much as the other services, and we have a whole lot more to offer, and at a lower price.

EDIT: Boxoun is a friend of some troll on this forum who doesn't like me because I challenged him. This may have something to do with his negative and ficticious post, I hope not because that would just be sad but hey, it's a possibility.

Theres nothing odd about it. SEO fightback introduces networks that you can join up with. Its not a service that offers a particular package. You may or may not find a good network to join up with. If thats not what you get from it then thats fine but people need to quit trying to censor other peoples views as if its suspicious.

As stated before and you must have missed - that is totally besides the point. Mike has identified me in other threads and since many people read more than one thread it doesn't matter if I wasn't specifically in this thread. The accusations were made in this thread and elsewhere.

Didn't seem objective at all and definitely the points were entirely subjective.

A lot of people don't understand how it works, and that's to be expected because it's never been done before.

We do have some networks that could be called public. There are lots of hoops to jump through but fine, if you believe that Google does employ people to join networks because they're unable to fight spam with algorithms, then yes it's possible they could eventually worm their way in.

But, we also have private networks. This means even our members don't know they exist. They have to be invited by the creator of the network.

That part of our system is a bit like a blog management system (like xmarkpro or some other poster) but it allows people to join networks with others, all while staying 100% private.

It's up to our members to find a balance of scale vs trust with other people they create networks with.

You can't expect to survive very long if you advertise a blog network and allow anyone with some money to get inside. This is why we have a private peer-to-peer blog networking system.

However, we do also have around 30 networks that are not "private" as well. This is more for people to get their feet wet and get an ROI, ASAP. These networks are still far more secure than any other advertised network, and they're also more secure than many personal private networks too.