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Hey Folks, I've been gone for a while (not that I was missed!) but I wanted to share some results from using 1waylinks.net after 3-plus months... Here's a blog post on this subject or you can just read down to understand why some link building services just aren't worth the time and money expenditure... 1wayLinks - Reversal on my 1wayLinks Review - Online Marketing And Internet Business Advice Linkbuilding services are supposed to save you time, yes? So if you're going to use a service like Article Marketing Automation or Unique Article Wizard to get backlinks, you want it to be a productive use of your time, right? I'm pointing to those other 2 services because they're similar and so it doesn't seem like I'm picking on 1WL which worked for a couple of my sites for a little while. If you're going to write an article, even an unreadable, spun article... that still takes time to do but you also have to consider the quality of your backlinks, which is tied into the quality of sites linking back to you. So, if you're spinning 10 articles at a pop that get posted on garbage sites with upside down linkjuice, where's the benefit? Where's the benefit to having a good chunk of your articles not worth anything at all because 10 exact, duplicate versions of them got posted to places? How do you think the search engines are going to treat 10 versions of the same article? Well, they're definitely not going to credit them all equally, and they're not oging to index them all when coming from dummy sites with little to no linkjuice posting very frequently, which doesn't give the spiders a chance to crawl their sites properly. ( I tested this) If you're going to test the effectiveness of a linkbuilding service, but you're only using one service at a time, you need to assess the quality of your backlinks. How I assess the quality of a linkbuilding service: SERPS Incoming links widget on blogs Pingbacks TO date the best linkbuilding service I've ever used was LinkVana, because each and every link I got with that service showed up as an incoming link on my blog (that's actually how I know when "one hit". Dave Kelley will tell you different, but after I saw the LV links "hit" my site, I checked my SERPS for that url and it was higher, almost every time. Granted, the backlinks were only from blurbs that took me a few minutes to write, and not going to be read my human eyeballs, but still, those links worked because they came from frequently spidered, highly ranked sites, with good link juice. People complain that LinkVana costs too much, but when you consider the time I wasted with LV's "competition", I have to laugh, because I wasted 3 months on cheaper services. I'm not a LinkVana affiliate or anything either (I got emphatically kicked out for requesting a refund 3 days after not getting my log in details the second time I joined - my fault for being impatient...) Point being, the one commonality with all the linkbuilding services I've tried (NextGenLinks,1WayLinks,LinkVana, etc...) is that good links show up as pingbacks, incoming links and/or increased SERPS. People say pingbacks aren't an indication of anything useful... I disagree, and refer back to the best linkbuilding service I ever used (LinkVana, which is almost tied with BackLink Solutions) and how I saw their incoming links quickly affecting my SERPS for terms I was going after. I use BackLink solutions now and I'm getting results a lot faster in 2 weeks than I did with other services and I'm seeing those indicative pingbacks and incoming links. DON'T... Rely on Google to tell you how many links are pointing back to you, it's inaccurate DON"T EVEN.. bother looking to Yahoo for your numbers either, because all that really matters is the quality of your backlinks obtained, not generated, and the resultant higher rankings you'll see with better backlinks pointing to your urls. What really matters is rising up... Also, practice proper on-page optimization and just about ANY type of link will help, but do improper post and page creation, and it will take more of all types of links to rank higher. I miss coming here, been busy with 10 new niche sites outside of IM to prove I can transfer marketing skills elsewhere, not just to the "MMO" crowd... |
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Hi Daniel, well in response to your review, I do find pingback from the 1waylinks network and the page rank you see in linkvana is the domain page rank and it is not the the linking page PageRank which effectively zero all the way unless you are building link for that page. So I don't see why linkvana is a better solution and this is why I don't sign up service like backlink solution or linkvana. Why pay $147 for a service if you can find a cheaper similar alternatives? Also, I think you didn't see the pingbacks probably the blogs set up were too new in 1waylinks and didn't get index. So I disagree with your claims sorry to say that. |
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Zoobie, I got in as a Beta Tester, was there from the beginning and tested 10 sites for oever 90 days, that's more than enough sites and testing to come to this conclusion. Regarding LinkVana... I don't really care about their pagerank but the effectiveness of their backlinks which is based on those sites' linkjuice. A dummy blog linking out 3 times per post 4 or 5 times a week with little to no incoming links isn't going to provide much in the way of link juice, and that will only worsen over time. Maybe that's why 1WL worked for me for first 30 days, then decreased in effectiveness the next 60 days. It seems the older the sites are the less lnkjuice they have, therefore the excuse of the sites "being new" doesn't hold water, since older sites will have more of an upside down linkjuice. Regarding BLS.. I got their low-end membership and it's working wonders, so far..at $27.00/month...and it hardly takes any time to get those more effective links. I understand the concern about price points and all, I do... Test 1WL this way, too... You know the sites that are providing your backlinks, right? You see them in your membership area... So go to those sites and see how many of those posts are getting indexed. Then see how many of those titles appear in the SERPS. When I saw what I did NOT hope to see (hardly any of the dummy sites' posts being indexed), it was a no-brainer to cancel |
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Hi Daniel, For effective and quality backlinks, what do you suggest - linkvana or backlink solution? |
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Hi Steve, since you're promoting LinkVana in your sig file, then you probably know how effective it is...Regarding BLS, all I can say right now is that it works well, but I'm going to wait for 90 days of usage before recommending any linkbuilding services. I Don't want to have any more reversals I review linkbuilding service here if you want to bookmark it and wait a few more weeks for the BLS review, however LinkVana will do you just fine, BLS just might be 47/month cheaper with some time-saving stuff thrown in, too http://linkvanareviews.com/ Also, "effective backlinks" are the ones that stick,, and cause something to happen and can be obtained from other places than blogs, and it is recommended that you do so. |
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Daniel why don't you creat a poll so people can vote?? I haven't used any linkbuilding service but would sure like to see what everyone else thinks and what everyone is using.
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A poll? Well because most people don't know how to use those services anyways, as seen here 82% of Webmasters get Link acqusition wrong | Increase Website Traffic Tips Also, people aren't really sure how to test their linkbuilding services (see post above) More importantly, though, it's a really hard thing to test anyways for all the reasons I've listed here: Is Your Linkbuilding Service Doing A Good Job? - Link Building Services Reviews - Review on LinkVana 1WayLinks BackLink Solutions NextGen Links and Other Link Building Services Sorry to send you elswhere to read, just a lot quicker and the WF is taking up some of my time again after a few months absence. I'll check in on this thread every few days though |
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I just join Linkvana for 2 weeks, the result is good, still takes time to see more result. However, I think backlinks solution if not the same power, will be head to head with Linkvana. This service bookmarks every post in the network, they even have their own bookmarking sites. I wonder how many accounts they have with each bookmarking sites, may be thousands...? |
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Just checking in.. best thing to do for yourself is not to listen to me or anyone else but to experiment and test things on your own... Example: I "heard" that the less outgoing links on an article the better, and simple beleived it "Cuz tha gurus said so"...Well... 5 months ago, I wrote an article rather quickly and published without adding in a backlink in mid-article... That article has been in position #2 or #3 out of 250 million results/listings for 3 plus months, and the article was barely over EZA's 250-word limit and wasn't that great of an article. I decided recently I'd go back to add a hyperlink to this article mid-article (why waste anything?) and now..after 3 months at position 2,3, and 4 article is gone, vanished, kaput... I understand that sometimes articles and SERPs disappear but for three months this article was there with no interruptions... Point being, test things out to see if they're true, don't believe in anything unless you test it out yourself first. P.S. I've gone back and looked at some of my older articles and it seems that the ones without mid-article backlinks do better in SERPs, go figure eh? |
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Sad to say I have not seem any visible improvement despite posting almost 100 articles on linkvana since I subscribe their services 31 days ago. It could be the niche I am in is very competitive. I will be staying with them for another month to see how the result or else I am looking for another linking building service. Quote:
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31 days isn't enough time. You need 60 days at least, then 90 to determine if it is still working... Why are you promoting it if you're not happy with results thus far? just curious
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Good question. Although I am slightly disappointed with the result so far but with such good reviews from postings I found on discussion forums I do not want to cut them off at least after 2 to 3 months later. Well as you mentioned I will need 60 to 90 days before seeing results. |
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What I've seen with the several linkbuilding sevices I've reviewed, it's that it's like pulling teeth to get some real help, and by that I mean not many linkbuilding services tell you to mix up your anchor text start slow measure your links average, an increase slowly make sure your site is properly designed and so on... The last one is crucial (on-page SEO) and unfortunately hardly any one of the "SEO Experts" in this thread told the questioner how bad his on-page SEO was. how unimportant tags are really, why incoming links don't really matter as long as your site is being built properly. Think silo site structure and a bit of LSI mixed in... which means only a few links are needed in most cases Not saying your on-page seo is poor but it seems like with all the moving parts that go into ranking well, linkbuilding services should provide more help in using their service. Also, seeing as how the responsers to this thread Any SEO experts out there? didn't really give top-notch advice... I wrote yet another blog post explaining why coming here sometimes hurts people's chances of getting top-notch advice... Internet Marketing Experts Providing Laser-Targeted Advice - Online Marketing And Internet Business Advice Not being gratuitiously self-promotional here, really, just directing you to something that may help you understand where I'm coming from. Mods feel free to delete link above if it seems "too much" I fel bad for the person who started that thread and is listening |
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Any update on Backlinks solution and NextGenLink?
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cool site alot of info
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Hey, I haven't been back here in a while. I have a site with a lot of unique content that is ready to go and I will begin to test NextGenLinks out with that. Backlink Solutions is kicking ass for me, but I'll have to scale back on my testing soon, which means using less services because there's only so much site building and link building you can do witohut overdoing it. You can go to the site in my sig file for updated reviews, thanks for asking |
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NextGenLinks seems promising, However, I cancel it after 3 hours playing around... The problem is too much work! I mean, I am looking for some "automated" way to build links to my semi-autoblogs, but NextGenLinks needs to launch spider for new content... Just not suitable for me. Backlink solution is great, and I love it! All link building solution works, but you need to see how it fits into your strategy. |
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Hey Daniel, Did your free 3-way link works with wordpress blog? any plugin to support? How many members you have? Why is it free? Hope you don't mind so much question... |
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Hey kkchoon, it's free (still...) because I want to keep getting new members in to fill the network up. Also, the links obtained here are not the highest quality you can hope to get so once it's no longer free, it will still remain low-cost and under 20/month. I will probably run a WSO soon to fill the network up, but was hoping word of mouth (hint, hint) would fill the network up by itself. We're about halfway to the point where I would want to be before we close the doors on the FRee-ness, hehe. Plus we'll probably add in the article marketing/syndication aspect and the specific page url features soon anyways. All you do with ALB is join, add sites to network, put your resource page on your site properly, and wait a few days or a week and you get your links, and give them out, too, just like any other 3waylinks network does... Yes, it works with blogs |
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Hi Daniel, Thanks for the reply! Will check it out soon |
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Can anyone tell me how backlink solution is different than unique article wizard? Which one can raise your search engine rankings higher and more quickly? I already know that you have to submit an article to unique article wizard to use their service but what do I submit to backlink solution? |
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Unique article wizard is an extension of article marketing, you prepare spinable content and they send it out to thousands of blogs and article directories. I think AMA and MyArticleNetwork is better... While Backlinks solution is a bit like Linkvana, but they auto bookmark your post, I am not sure if all post is auto bookmark, but they did do it for some of my post. You can have limited spinability to each post, and the control is loose.. Linkvana is better in a way that they control each post to be unique. However, Linkvana disallow spin content makes it a bit hard to use and a lot more time to prepare content... |
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I agree that posting articles on different directories help but in that case, contents has to be very good.
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Nope, you can use article directory to: 1. build backlinks - your content should be decently good, the content is not the concern, but the link is... 2. Build reputation and traffic - Your content should be good enough to attract click through and distribution! |
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