tylerjaysen

Hey everyone,

Ok so the past few days I've been inundated with emails promoting Social Commissions by Adrian Morrison. At first glance, the emails all promoted the same thing, make money using Plenty of Fish advertising and start with small budget of $5 and put up some campaigns and make money overnight.

So I finally clicked the link to his product and watched the video on the landing page. Maybe some of you have already watched this video. If you haven't seen it, then this is a recap.

It starts off with Adrain, ( a kid who is pretty polished at speaking in front of people) who talks about his company and how the family works for him....blah blah.. He then goes on to show how he randomly selected a group of people to participate in his Social Commissions product.

So he has these people sitting around a table at his office as they log back onto their computers to check their clickbank stats 3 hours after putting up some campaigns (placing ads). And of course to our amazement, 3 hours after they check their stats, ALL of these test subjects have made money. And over $100 each. One lady made over $300. Immediately in my mind, red flags popped up all over the place.

So then further in the video, Adrian checks back in with these same folks, 24 hours later now, and they log in to check their clickbank stats again live on camera. Wow, now these guys have each made serious money, Like $700 in 24 hours on clickbank.

So as you're watching these videos you say to yourself wow, that looks so easy I could do that. Right? So you buy the product at the $47 low ball intro fee expecting to learn how to create campaigns and then make money like these regular folks did in 24 hours.

HA. Are you kidding me?

So I purchased Adrian's product to see what his sales funnel was like and to of course see the product.

Holly crap man. 5 OTO's after purchase. That's One Time Offers.... to upsell the living crap out of you and squeeze the most money he can from you. I really despise this tactic. Yeah I know how OTO' are crucial in making extra cash and they do work, but 5?

OTO 1= Software to help you with campaigns $147
OTO 2 = Discount on that previous page software, now $69
OTO 3 = Outsourcing module $147
OTO 4 = 3 campaigns of Adrian proven to work, $247
OTO 5 = Discount on those 3 campaigns, $197

After you get through those 5 OTS, you are now in members area.

I have to say first that this Adrian guy is slick and his membership area is high quality and videos are slick too. However, the content that you get for that low intro price, is well, in my opinion, not worth it.

This is because you are left hanging as to what works. He shows you how to log into POF ads and set up campaigns and use their targeting feature and uber basic stuff like that. Really?

And after watching the videos and listening to some of the things he said, well they were totally misleading.

For example, he says many times over and over that you can start with $5 to test a campaign. Wrong, the minimum daily spend is $15, you cannot even put in $5 or you get error.

He also shows you stats and shows you the 20 thousand plus impressions that one of his campaigns is getting and then in the same breath talks about how you're getting 20 thousand eyeballs to your site or basically giving the impression that you're getting a ton of visitors and traffic to your site from your ad. Really?

Impressions mean nothing. It's the clicks that matter. Or how many people clicked on your ad and THEN were taken to your offer. He completely interchanges the two concepts like they're one in the same. Totally misleading.

Now I'm sure he has successful campaigns and is making money. However, I know for a fact that he is promoting his new product to make money. Duh right. But seriously folks, having been in the IM game now for a while, isn't this type of sales funnel and tactic getting a little annoying? It is for me.

Because really when you watch the video and see how these regular folks are making instant money to their brand new CB accounts, you are left in the dark as to...how much money did they spend in advertising to achieve those sales? How many campaigns did they run? How many offers? Etc. So in the end, how much money was left over after you factor in ad costs and refunds. Of course that is left out of the video. Because the reality is not so sexy and will NOT make you want to click the buy now button.

I give this product a 2 out of 5 stars based on the little value for the money.

amuro

If you really want to make money as an affiliate using FREE methods, then I recommend Mark Ling's AffiloBlueprint.

Look, I know this is not related to Social Commissions. But Mark walks the talk and delivers more than what is expected. Though the course is now $197, believe me it is worth the price.

Mark not only teaches you but gives a list homework and what needs to be done if your sites do not make you money even after following his entire course. There is also a forum like this one where members help one another and can put their sites for Mark to comment and pinpoint what needs to be improved.

I know because I bought the course at launch price $67 and am making money from it after following his proven blueprint.

If you are new to affiliate marketing and tight on budget, I won't recommend paid methods whether they are PPC, PPV etc.

tylerjaysen

yeah I bought Mark's course too....he's totally legit and knows what's up and his strategies work for affiliate marketing!! Ha nice plug for Mark Ling. lol

Josh Monroe

In regards to the $5 campaigns, at the time he shot the video I can confirm it was correct. It seems like POF changed it to $15 not long after the influx of new advertisers signing up after buying the product.

What you said about OTO's unfortunately will now become th norm. Get ready to see nearly all products offering over 3 OTO's then relevant down sells etc.

I have both used the product and promoted it and I will say this. it's made me money, Nd I ave had over 30 emails off people who purchased via my link who can co from the same for them. Yes the training may be a little basic, BUT how any many people would be using POf right now if it wasn't for this course?

If I was Adrian I would be making sure I was getting some sort of commission from POF for all the new revenue they will be now making since the product has launched.

EZlivin

I was given access to the social commissions product. I watched all of the videos and it seems very basic to me. At least if you have been in the game a while and done any kind of marketing with Google Adwords.

If you are thinking about buying the product, tyler basically sumed it all up in his post. It is about buying ads on POF. I have been promoting on POF for a while and have a couple successful campaigns. You just have to think about what type of audience is there.

Don't try to pitch make money online there. I haven't found any successful campaigns. What does work? Promoting CPA dating offers, and weight loss info products epecially geared towards women.

That is my two cents, and with that info you should be able to make your own two cents or more on POF.

TrafficBot

I also purchased Social Commissions and in 3 words "save your money". Its a pure waste of time and money. His big secret Plenty Of Fish ads. Furthermore, I was an affiliate of this program and everyone of the people who bought this from me refunded it. 100% refund rate in my Clicksure account. On top of that Adrian Morrison had my Clicksure account blocked for posting his members area intro video on youtube. I am in the process of getting my account re-opened. I guess he was pissed that I revealed too much to prospective purchasers on youtube about what the product was really about and as a result his sales suffered. Stay away from Adrian Morrison. He wouldn't dare chime in here on WF to defend his product like other open vendors here have done. Warriors are just too keen to slickster gurus.

Austin12

This product sounds revolutionary..lol..not..I watched the video and wow his big secret is POF Ads after those gazillion upsells and oto's. I've been doing POF ads on and off for over a year and done fairly well on some of the campaigns. Its been my main earner through clickbank affiliate and the odd CPA but I think CPA is really the way to go with POF. Its my favorite place for Pay ads and a system I can just about get my head around after many campaigns and testing. You just need to keep an eye on your campaigns as one that doesn't work after a few days can get pretty expensive if you dont check on it.

fren99

I tried to purchase Social Commissions yesterday. The checkout page ClickSure did not provide Paypal option, it only can be paid by credit card. In fact, i was very reluctant to provide my credit card information online but that was the only option. After 2 times trying the payment was not gone through. Then i start checking who is ClickSure as this is the first time i heard about this company. And i found this About ClickSure | Scambook

After reading all the above comments, i'm very sure i'll not go back to this product again.

Regards,

JerryGP

[QUOTE=amuro;6694775]If you really want to make money as an affiliate using FREE methods, then I recommend Mark Ling's AffiloBlueprint.

Look, I know this is not related to Social Commissions. But Mark walks the talk and delivers more than what is expected. Though the course is now $197, believe me it is worth the price.

Is Mark Ling's course similar to Matt Carter's course?

Josh Monroe

Clicksure are a UK company so if you are international your bank will probably decline your order. The only way around this is to phone your bank and tell them to allow ClickSure purchases.

onemorewarrior

I purchased this and pretty much went thru the entire course in less than a day.

First off in most cases it takes 24 hrs to get your ads on POF reviewed. So the random people Adrian showed in the video most likely didn't make any money because their ads were not approved yet.

The training is pretty basic and the done for you campaigns videos are all pretty much in violation of the guidelines for both POF and FB he covers ad campaigns and shows you the exact ads he uses.The dating offers and the gambling offers he shows are in direct violation of the guidelines it says right on the help page at POF

• You are trying to advertise a FREE dating website. PlentyOfFish does not advertise these websites under any circumstances.
• You are trying to advertise a gambling website. While we do approve many gambling sites, we do not advertise gambling websites within the USA

That came right from the POF ad guidelines. That is probably why he shows you his exact ads they are no longer relevant and he is most likely not making any money from them anymore,

As far as Facebook is concerned it is almost impossible to send an ad directly to a cpa offer because FB considers them spammy. In most cases your ad will not get approved unless you send it an external landing page that has no pop up or auto play videos on them both of which are direct violations and get your ads disapproved every time. Adrian also shows you him creating a FB ad and says bam your ad is now live and making you money. If you look closer there is a little clock icon on the ad stats .That little clock means your ad is awaiting approval so you never see if Adrian actually got his spammy ad approved.

The new daily spend has been increased to 15.00 and you cant put in a bid for 5.00 just not happening.

If you never used Plenty of Fish this is actually a good way to see how the ad platform works it does give some good info but remember to check if your ads are within the guidelines.

Oh by the way if you click away you eventually get an offer for the entire product for $19.00

Also included in the product is a piece of software that automatically posts your ads to POF I have not tried it out but watching the demo video it looks to be worth the price of the program. If it actually works it will save you a ton of time and aggravation in creating ads.

So you decide if this is for you me personally I think the software is well worth the 19 dollars if it does exactly what it is supposed to do. This is my personal take on the system. Hopr it helps you make an informed decision.

Gary Grosschadl

Yes I concurr, stay away from this "slick willy". Most people smart enough to check this thread most likely know 2 cardinal rules. 1. check for WSO review using a search phrase like "social commissions warrior forum" and 2. always decline first page / offer to see what discount is. Sometimes for higher priced items, there can be multiple discounts, depending on how desperate the seller is.

joseph7384

I actually got it for free after going through about 4 or 5 OTO'S, some of his pages are not secure what a dumb arse.

I already deleted the login info as I don't condone getting programs for free, I just fell upon a crack in his site.

zoobie

Legit or not the minimum daily spent is already increased and so does the bid. Every time some marketers put up something said it is a cheap traffic source, one or two days later, the cost of advertising will be increased very soon.

This so called gurus will do something like that. You pay for them for their secret information, but they hide from you the most important information that will make them money.

If they can make that good money, mostly they will NOT tell you all the pictures. So why I stay away from the make money online niche, because many of them are trying to make the products owner money and not yours.

So do your due diligence before you trust these so called "secret" information.

zoobie

This product comes with live training. Adrian claimed he has 900 members here, I tried to ask some questions, but he seemed to ignore me.

The live training is basically going through the video on his member site.

oniram

I viewed his sale pitch ( Social Commissions ) then viewed POF and their TOS. I decided that I need not buy SC because I can set up an account directly on POF.

AgileWarrior

Wonder whether Adrian is related to Anthony Morrison. Anthony is a marketer who has grossed over 150 million via online marketing and infomercials. Just from the OP's post #1, we can surmise how this may happen: imagine that an average purchase with the 5 OTOs is $100. Just 10,000 buyers grosses $1M. Back-end sales (e.g., seminars) balloons this # further.

This is certainly a great program for Adrian.

Given the feedback in this thread, I will pass on this for now.

POFBen

Hey guys, just wanted to chime in here because it seems like there's a lot of conflicting comments. This is a good part of any healthy discussion so thank you for your opinions. I'm here to clarify a few things:

- At the time of making this product, our minimum budget WAS $5/day. We changed it to $15 so this was our call, which obviously conflicts w/ Adrians product.. totally not his fault. 100% our judgment call.

- His campaigns were legit. We do allow dating offers as long as they're not for 100% free dating sites (his wasn't) and we don't allow gambling offers in the US only, he was targeting Australia.

- Minimum bid for ads is $0.10 CPM, this has not changed.

I'd like to clarify one thing that Adrian's course does better than the typical products you see here: CONTINUED SUPPORT. In fact, Adrian is going to schedule a webinar with myself so I can communicate with his members. We're going to cover the "top mistakes that new advertisers make on POF and how to avoid them".

I've never been approached to do something like this for any other WSO or product so he genuinely cares for his member's success and wants them to make as little mistakes as possible.

Warriors, please make sure you do your research before criticizing someone. You're better than that.

onemorewarrior

Yes in fact Anthony is Adrians brother and if you ever watched any of Anthonys infomercials you would have noticed yhat the struggling college kid was his brother .In Adrians sales pitch the struggling colege kid is his friend joe very similar story .Im just saying.Oh and according to Anthony Adrian works for him.

@POFBEN thanks for the clarification. I personally was not trashing Adrian I was just pointing out the discrepencies in his training.As far as the product being accurate at the time of making there is a member site that is supposed to updated regularly ans I haven't found any info stating that there are new TOS .Maybe you could have adrian make a 5 min welcome video and address the points mentioned in this post.
The overall product has good info but most of it is outdated or incomplete do the tactics work YES however you need to research the changes in order to make them effective for todays ad platforms. Even the FB training shows old fanpage examples which are no longer used FB has switched to a new timeline.Adrian shows the timeline in one of his videos but only says this the new timeline and I really havent done antthing with it.is this because he just cant be bothered to explain it or he has no idea how to use it.
Again this is just my observations of what I have experienced with this product. Adrian has been marketing for awhile and you can learn something from his trainings but like everything else in life you get out what you put in and you need to do a little extra to make this work.
JUst my opinions you draw your own conclusions. CHEERS

Lakezilla

Something you may want to take a look at is their privacy policy. Their are some issues which should be addressed:

According to their Privacy Policy you give them permission to:

- use your phone number for telemarketing and SMS marketing purposes
- contact you by phone even if you are listed in the "do not call" registry
- use your postal address for marketing and promotion
- and if that's not enough you give them permission to share your information with third parties. Those parties can also reach you to promote their products via phone, e-mail, or direct mail.

Consider this along with the other comments before you hit that Buy Button!

joolkano

I attended one of his hotel seminars here in NJ and even there the information was vague and they were asking people to sign up for a 3 day training event for over $2k. Then, I received a call from his call center pitching me again to buy his course. I told them the price they're asking for does not match the value and I even mentioned the Warrior Forum and the sales girl didn't even know of this site. (how can you be in the IM niche and not know about WF).

@POFBen - I understand that you have to protect Adrian because he is bringing in advertisers to your site (I think it is a great site, by the way) but if you really look at his course, the information value does not match the ridiculous amount he is charging for it. I think this is why he does TV infomercials to suck in total newbies who does not have any internet marketing knowledge whatsoever and they are the only ones naïve enough to pay for his courses.

I my opinion there are better courses here in WF at prices that won't break your bank account when getting started.

nmoppa01

You know (I quess) that ClickSure is the way out for scammers who are not accepted by or kicked out at Clickbank? ClickSure must have an awful amount of refunds for any product that is sold through them. I would not buy at ClickSure, you can't even pay with paypal, there are tons of complaints (just Google ClickSure scams).

Charles

goldeneye75

This is a really helpful post. I have a better understanding of his product. Basically affiliate marketing on social sites. I did'nt even know about pof.com. It's nice to get that bit of info for free on warrior forum. I'm tired of bing ads so I will try pof.com. I would like to see a few examples of the ads Adrian claim work so well. If you read the book please post a few of his ads. The guy is a hustler out to make money for himself. That's not necessarily a bad thing. You are supposed to take care of yourself especially these days.

scottn5757

Anthony's latest product is almost identical to Adrian's. I bought it for myself many months ago, after getting my affiliate link from CB so I could get my own commission, then I waited through all the OTO's, yes 5 or more, so I could get the lowest price possible. He shows on his infomercial taking three people who have never marketed online, and barely know anything about the internet, how without a list or anything they can sell hundred's of dollars of CB products in hours. It looks and sounds great on the infomercial. After getting into the members area it was so confusing that I never could figure out what the supposed strategy was for doing this. I couldn't find anything that looked anything like what he was showing in the informercial. They were supposed to also setup a website for me, I paid extra for that, I could never find out how to get that done. It was a total ripoff! I was glad I knew enough to get my own commission, and how to get the lowest price. It wasn't that much in the end so I didn't worry about refunding. I don't know how they get away with misleading so many people.

javabeane77

Hi Guys - [posted December 27, 2012] -

It looks like there is a premium version of the course available, with 12 months of access to Affilorama Premium, for a price of $597 - the standard version is still $197.

Is Mark's course still effective and workable since the recent three Google algorithm changes?

Best, Steve

novac

Yeah, probably 6 months ago I tried to purchase a product through them - I tried a Visa and a MasterCard, both cards I'd had for years and I knew they were in good standing. Clicksure continually denied them both. I was keeping the tab up and emailing Clicksure at the same time. (There was some illiteracy going on there - long story - total frustration.) Very early in the morning a MasterCard fraud control representative called asking if I wanted the transaction to go through. They said they didn't trust the company (CS) and one reason was that they were based in China.
At that scambook link there is this complaint:

ClickSure Complaint 189210 for $0.00
Reported Damage: $0.00
Date Occured: 12/10/2012

I've been trying to purchase various products via clicksure and have received a failure notice....I would like to know why this continues to happen and get it resolved asap..I need to know what I need to do to rectify this......please email me ...