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| Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008
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Hi, I am debating joining Dave Moore's Super Apprentice membership. I was a member about a year ago. It seems there have been some updates to the site and software. Can any current users chip in on how this is working out for them? Thanks.
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: S.E.A
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Hi, I too am interested and would like some feedback from current members. By the way,why did you stop. Thanks. |
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| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2009
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I am a member. I will paste a recent post from that forum and then give my own opinion. I hope the owners will not mind me copying from that forum. >>>>>>>>>> START SA FORUM POST>>>>>>> Making > $10,000 Per Month With SA Hello All, I joined SA in Apr 2007. Before joining SA I've joined other memberships, but after working at them, I've quit all of them. I've only been involved in SA the last one year plus because I find it a comprehensive system. Of course, there's always room for improvement.Smile I'm now making > $10,000 per month from SA sites. I have 140 sites but 80% of the income is derived from 30% of the sites. My best site just made $1,000 last month. My revenue comes from Adsense, CPA and affiliate sales. Even with every new site I make, I continue to optimize my previous sites. I've pretty much settled on a procedure for making new sites and optimizing previous ones which works for me time and money wise. I continuously think about how I can make a site perform better and test different ways of promotion. At the same time, I come up with topics that interest me. Bottom-line, SA works. Even though the blueprint is the same, how each person interprets it is different, it's really how you internalize it. But the process does work. My plan in 2009 is to deploy 10-15 sites per month. I just want to encourage everyone to keep moving forward. Don't give up.Smile Sir Winston Churchill said: "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another with no loss of enthusiasm." Best Regards, KJ <<<<<<<<<<<< End SA forum Post <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< MY Opinion and Experience of the SupperAprrentice Program The original Super Apprentice was a flop in my opinion and their claim of being able to make an average of $5 per site was not accurate. The $5 day per day per site was probably true in the Adsense Golden days pre 2007. With your first few sites , expect to make abot $0.50 per site per day. As time goes by and you improve your site topic selection process, $1-$3 should be feasible. However the SupperApprentice Program (SA) have improved enormously since their beginning. They have included their own keyword tool and have improved the site promotion strategies and changed the recommended size of the sites. As a result it is easier to find profitable keywords while costing less to build the sites. They also provide 10 niches for you per month, a blog network, RSS marketing and the support is excellent. They have automatic article submission and also a quick way to find reciprocal links if you choose to. They have an SEO friendly site cross linking process but it does not seem to really work currently. The site cross linking used to work quite well but it seems dead at the moment. They also have a site selling program called "buyback" where you can automatically sell your site to a network of legitimate buyers they have. I am currently making $200 day passive income from the SA system and what the above poster KJ has posted is a true representation of the current system if you stick to building more and more sites. I read KJ's posts from the beginning when he was asking simple questions to his latest post about how is making $10K per month. I too would be making a lot more than $200 per day if it was not for the fact that I wasted a lot my resources on the original SA which in my opinion was not worth joining. However the latest SA, which has been up for about 1 year has produced good results for me and is without doubt worth joining if you can stick with it. You have to outsource as much as possible if you want any success. The more sites you build and analyse, the better you become at choosing profitable niches. If you have 2 year plan, you can without doubt reach $10K per month in passive income. But you must really learn how to pick winners from the data of your current live sites. The more money you make , the more you can outsource and the faster more money you can make. Things that could be improved include: more templates, a better blueprint for picking winners, cheaper blog posting rates and a working cross site linking process. I highly recommend the current SA as long as you are prepared to stop buying all of the other make money programs and offers out there. This point about focus is highly emphasized in the SA Blueprint. The owners have never sent me a promotional email about any other program or offer from any other guru. Completely focus on SA and on reading your stats and success will be round the corner. SA is not a short term gimmick or loophole that is here today and gone tomorrow. SA is purely whitehat and geared towards long term success. rgs JKN |
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: S.E.A
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Thank you very much for doing a through review. Greatly appreciated. Philomina |
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Thanks for the review. Is SA suitable for a not total newbie. Which membership sites that you would highly recommend other than SA? I want to avoid wasting money on membership site that just want to upsell you. Appreciate your recommendation. Cheers! | ||
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| Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
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Any current SA members that can chip in? Quote:
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Netherlands
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I read in another thread here on WF they have a team of writers who can get you content, but itīs not mandatory. Is there an extra payment when they provide the content or is this included in the monthly payment? According to Dave Kelly, his wife is using the SA system and enjoying it, but isnīt he a bit biased to write a review about his own service? Or did he became involved later down te road and not from the start? Hereīs the other thread: Super Apprentice |
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: , , .
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Dave Kelly is a cool guy, don't confuse him with other types. Dave was one of the original members in SA and showed his wife how to build sites using the SA system and more. SA eventually adopted Dave and wife's system, building smaller sites and selling them after the search engines lose interest. Dave owns Linkvana, not SA. batchos I stand corrected: it seems that Dave Kelly bought SA |
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| Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Marshfield, MO
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I just joined up again (I was with SA for about a year when it first launched) and I'm very impressed. Dave has really stepped it up in a few areas. His main focus is not really to make fortune in Adsense or affiliate income, but in getting these sites making just a few bucks a day as quickly as possible so you can turn them for cash. That's where most of the SA members are really raking it in. He's got a group of buyers ready and willing when the time is right, and they'll pay top dollar for an SA site that's optimized. You can write your own content, but Dave also has a group of writers that are trained in the SA way. You buy some credits, submit your article request based on the keyword for your specific page, and get the finished product back in about 3-5 days. You can also do this for blog posts and small blurbs. These all-original articles are $6.00 and run in the 350 to 400 word area. The thing I like about SA is it's a "no flash" method. The bells and whistles aren't necessary here. It's very simple, it's very easy to do, and the hype machine is turned completely off. The dashboard he uses is brain-dead simple, and everything is basically plug and play. Plus, Dave and his team are always there to help you if you need it. Right now, I'm trying to revive some sites I built the first time around and moving forward with some new ones. With a little luck, I'm hoping to turn them after the first of the year for a hefty profit. I think he just dropped the price from $97 to $47. Let me know if you're interested and I can get you a link (yes, I am an affiliate and yes, I will be compensated for said purchase). |
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Netherlands
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Just wondering what the difference between Profit Loophole and Super Apprentice is. Both are from Dave Kelly. Is PL part of SA? I understand PL is a one-time payment, but SA is a subscription. But are there more differences? When to choose which one? I am interested in building small Adsense sites, promote them, make some money and sell them. And I am not good at content writing, also because my native language is not English, but Dutch and still living in the Netherlands. Is therefor SA better for me? As I also understood there is Daveīs Articlez.com team ready to write the content in SA, but does this mean people who purchase PL have to write their own content? How much content needs to be written in general for one SA/PL site? Of course the content for the pages of this site, but is there a need for original content which is then submitted to the article directories and blog network. In other words: If I were a SA customer and wanted to launch a site, how much would this cost me (in general) including the promotion part? I have my own reseller account at Hostgator, so no extra spendings here for me. Donīt mind if this canīt be said exactly, but a rough estimation would be nice. The monthly fee is lowered to $50, does anyone know when this will be going up again? I want to become a customer, but not sure if I become one in December or January and what the differences between SA and PL are. |
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008
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SA has Articlez services kind of integrated, ie. you can order said articles from within SA and they'll be delivered to your control panel. | |
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| Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2009
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I'm building small Adsense sites with a view to flipping them in the future - this sounds like an interesting membership for doing just that. Can SA sites be sold outside of their marketplace, eg on Flippa? I'd also like some more info along the same line's as HollandsFinest - How much content needs to be written in general for one SA/PL site? Of course the content for the pages of this site, but is there a need for original content which is then submitted to the article directories and blog network. In other words: If I were a SA customer and wanted to launch a site, how much would this cost me (in general) including the promotion part? I have my own reseller account at Hostgator, so no extra spendings here for me. Donīt mind if this canīt be said exactly, but a rough estimation would be nice. Thanks so much :-) |
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jakarta
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Can anyone tell us what the current super apprentice is all about? What do they teach you on how to make money?
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Maryland USA
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I just started witn SA and completed my first site. The business model is to build optimized, unique content, 10 page sites, let them "season" for about 6 months and then sell them for a profit. You can outsource the content to his team (the writing is pretty good and tailored to this approach). I estimate that it will cost you about $100 per site for hosting and writing to get up and running. I'm part time IM so my goal is about 3-5 sites per month. Hope this helps. |
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jakarta
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Thank you that explain a lot ![]() How are supposed to promote these websites within 6 months? It says the marketing/promotion is free. Can you tell us a little bit about the promotion part? And Is it hard to find the niche to make a website? do they have their own keyword research software or do we need to invest our own? |
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Maryland USA
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Dave explains how to go about research a niche. It is pretty straight forward. Promotion is done primarily through article marketing, blog posting, bookmarking, i.e...the usual suspects. There is a keyword tool available that stores and analyzes your awstats. You will probably have to get your own kw research tool.
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jakarta
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Can you break down a little further when you say one site cost about $100 to make? So how much is for the articles content? etc.. etc..
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Maryland USA
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I just mean that if you outsource the content to SA ($8 an article) plus your hosting of about $10 a year it will cost approximately $100 per site to get it up an running.
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Quincy, California
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I just wanted to say that Dave Kelly's Super Apprentice program is really the best. We have used it and successfully earned thousands of dollars from his program. I have never joined a program that actually paid me so much for so little work and investment. He provides everything you need to get started and also helps you along the way. Let me be clear. You do have to work. You do have to find the niches, write or outsource the content, create the sites, etc. However, for the time put in, you are literally making hundreds of dollars per hour and Dave's service really is a step by step program that does work. |
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| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Belgium
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Hi, I'm not a member myself, but I did some research and found this trial link. It's $5 for 5 days full access. For anyone who is really interested. I think it still works (not an affiliate link!): "Super Apprentice" |
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| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009
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Does anyone know if this is still a valid membership site? Trying to join, I receive: At this time, we are unable to process your request. Please return to Arundel Net LLC and try another option. |
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| Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: , , USA.
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Is anyone doing Profit Loophole before SA became available? I am deep into it and would like to hear from others. I don't want to join the SA membership just to participate on the forum and am looking for others in the same situation.
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If you need assitance or have any questions just EM us at support @ superapprentice . com Dave | |
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| Aim for the Highest War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Budd Lake, NJ - next, Hawaii
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Great to know about this. A friend of mine just proposed it to me, but she doesn't know much about it either. Thanks all for sharing your experiences!
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2008
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how is this working out for people?..still on the fence...
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| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: , , USA.
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Hey Dave, Site need to updated... lol, you have data from 2007 and 2008 on it. Joe |
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| Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Australia
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Sometimes it pays to read the whole thing "OK, so you're asking - "Why are you showing me screenshots from 2007?" Good question - One reason is that I started creating this course in 2007. Another reason is that in December 2007 I had another major venture that was launched using that same paypal account, that had a lot of transactions per day. It would make for some pretty congested screenshots, and still would to this day in 2010. And finally, a further reason is that I now deal with a very specific group of people who pay me via direct bank transfers and not through paypal (usually cuts down on transfer costs, and there's less risk of potentially having PayPal freeze accounts and so on based on large amounts of money movement – which does happen, by the way, and there's plenty of horror stories all over the web about that...) I also have used escrow.com for many of my transactions - here is another screenshot from April 2008, of 2 deals that used exactly what I am going to teach you." | |
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| NeoWarrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2010
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Certainly hope some more members(or ex-members) can chip in their experiences with SA... like how long did it took them to start earning money, etc. Good or bad feedbacks are encouraged for the people on the fence. Romi |
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I just joined SA recently and going to build consistent 5 sites a month. Before that, I have joined lots of membership course but SA is the most outstanding so far. What I love SA because: 1. The buyback system 2. The new keyword search tool - brilliant! (only for SA members) 3. The articles outsource team. Why? 1. You no need to worry about whether you have buyer to buy your site or not. They have bunch of buyers line up to buy it from you. 2. This keyword tool is totally difference.. sorry, cannot disclose here. 3. No need to look for outsource, they have the in house writer know what is the SA sites requirements in terms of SEO, LSI and quality unique contents. I will stick to SA for at least 6 months to see the results. In the mean time, if you want to do it with less work, SA itself is not enough especially comes with link building. Think about it. Personally I don't listen to reviews or advice for any course or membership site. If I am not satisfied with it, just leave it. But at least stick with them minimum 3 months. Good Luck! Jeremy |
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| Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010
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I just rejoined 3 weeks ago. It's like coming home. This system is incredibly well thought through. In my opinion SA is the better WordPress. No fluff, no hype. That's probably why you don't hear a lot from SA members here at Warrior Forum, since all members are busy building sites. Anjo |
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