Review of Micro Model Business System by Mike Filsaime

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Mike Filsaime launched his Micro Model Business System this week geared towards the newbie market.

There have been similar programs from several other internet marketers over the last two years and they all do a great job making life easier for you. However; they all have the same weakness. If 1000 people sign up for this offer, all of a sudden there will be a 1000 marketers like you trying to market the same products. Talk about sibling rivalry.

Besides, the key to all this is traffic. You can have the best product in the world but without traffic, it means nothing.

The Micro Model Business System does teach you the basics of traffic but you may have to take additional courses to learn and generate traffic. For a limited time, they are providing a traffic course for free and that's a relief because without traffic, everything else is meaningless. Learning how to generate traffic is not brain surgery but requires time and patience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam X
    I find the whole system well put together actually. The one thing I don't like about the system is its emphasis on the make money niche or related niches such as Facebook marketing, List management, back linking and so on. Hopefully the added niches to come will be of a more general nature: health, education and so on.

    Its true however, These same sites will be built my all members. Could be 100 members , could be 10,000. However, You shouldn't expect the traffic to be coming from google but more along the lines of forum commenting, article and video marketing, yahoo answers and so on. of course all this can be automated. The products/websites are all listed in paydotcom it seems, so its possible to have affiliates promoting your product, but I wouldn't count on it.
  • Profile picture of the author DK7667
    Originally Posted by Bloggerkhan View Post

    Mike Filsaime launched his Micro Model Business System this week geared towards the newbie market.

    There have been similar programs from several other internet marketers over the last two years and they all do a great job making life easier for you. However; they all have the same weakness. If 1000 people sign up for this offer, all of a sudden there will be a 1000 marketers like you trying to market the same products. Talk about sibling rivalry.

    Besides, the key to all this is traffic. You can have the best product in the world but without traffic, it means nothing.

    The Micro Model Business System does teach you the basics of traffic but you may have to take additional courses to learn and generate traffic. For a limited time, they are providing a traffic course for free and that's a relief because without traffic, everything else is meaningless. Learning how to generate traffic is not brain surgery but requires time and patience.
    I absolutely agree with you on all points. I find it hard to believe how these internet marketers continueously MASK over the TRUTH with all these long drawn out sales videos, which NEVER focus or even mention the REAL requirements which are needed to make money online.
  • Profile picture of the author ProfessorMetal
    <quote>Its true however, These same sites will be built by all members.</unquote>

    That's the exact thought that I had when I encountered Mike's program. The first few people that buy in might make some decent money but it won't be long until the market is saturated and nobody will make anything. I'm somewhat disappointed in Mike on this one. With his experience he knows that's what's going to happen. The only person who stands to make a killing on it is Mike. I'm sure it's a great product but I'm afraid it's doomed to a short shelf life.

    I ran across something else that I'm curious about but I'll start another thread on it.
  • Profile picture of the author Bloggerkhan
    It's not a bad deal for newbies though. For $29.99 / month, you will get very good exposure to the different facets of marketing on the web. After a few months, you may cancel and go on your own with good knowledge of what can be done, the effort involved and the related costs.
  • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
    Originally Posted by ProfessorMetal View Post

    <quote>Its true however, These same sites will be built by all members.</unquote>

    That's the exact thought that I had when I encountered Mike's program. The first few people that buy in might make some decent money but it won't be long until the market is saturated and nobody will make anything. I'm somewhat disappointed in Mike on this one. With his experience he knows that's what's going to happen. The only person who stands to make a killing on it is Mike. I'm sure it's a great product but I'm afraid it's doomed to a short shelf life.

    I ran across something else that I'm curious about but I'll start another thread on it.
    The whole "saturation" line of thinking isn't valid...

    How many bookstores are selling the very same copies of the 'Harry Potter' books? Did the fact that one Barnes & Noble is selling them prevent any copies from being sold on Amazon? Absoultely not...

    You can pick up a copy of any Call Of Duty video game at nearly any electronics or big box store around, you can find it online, at super centers... are they all complaining about saturation?

    How about the fact that thousands of affiliates are all driving sales to the same product, and same sales page through networks like ClickBank, WarriorPlus, JV Zoo, etc?

    Saturation is a myth... or put more bluntly, it's an excuse people use because it sounds good.

    You may end up competing with a few hundred other people, if that, when it's all said and done. The OVERWHELMING majority of people who buy any IM product never do anything with it... so if you're in competition with 100-250 people, it comes down to you getting your own traffic.

    Look guys... I don't know why this is coming as any shock to anyone, but EVERY SINGLE ONLINE BUSINESS, without exception, is all about traffic. This isn't just about Mike's product, it's about ALL products, all services, all affiliate programs, and any business of any kind that sells any kind of product online.

    Mike's system is about eliminating 99% of the setup, the product creation, the hosting, the technical hassles, and all the other crap that prevents 99% of marketers from ever getting to the list building and traffic step...

    So, like all systems... is it money for nothing? No, I hope you're not foolish enough to believe that actually exists. What Mike's system is, plain and simple, is a huge headstart to help get people moving in the right direction so that they can focus on getting things moving in the right direction.

    -Gary Ambrose

    P.S. If I wasn't clear... Saturation doesn't exist.
  • Profile picture of the author chayil
    Hmmm...talk about saturation... is it really true it does not exist?

    Try getting 100 hotdog sellers at a local fun fair carnival. Who'll get the business? The traffic is there already. But too many hotdogs sellers selling hotdogs. Maybe some will want to sell ice cream or pop corn.

    It's about demand and supply. Too much supply with too little demand gives saturation.

    With so many affiliates promoting the same product...well. The answer is simple. Because there's only one product owner. Using this micro business model is not affiliate marketing. The people want to be product sellers. How can the people be given the same product and then asked to sell on their site? Even the site is the same. There's no uniqueness, no unique selling point. All the same. Then how different it is from affiliate marketing?

    I don't like the point on having the affiliate network ready - paydotcom. Sure it is already an affiliate network. But to say that there's a ready supply of affiliates wanting to sell for you is sort of short changing the people who buy into this system. It's like saying get everyone in the world to give you $1...just $1 and you will be a multi-millionaire...maybe billionaire.

    The truth is there are thousands of products on the network. The challenge is getting people to want to sell for you. It's getting them to land into your affiliate page to sign up as your affiliate. And don't forget there are some other 'owners' selling the same product looking for affiliates. So the truth is you still have to find your own affiliates.

    So I wonder...even the product is done for you. Can the owner modify the contents of the product to make it more unique?? If not everything is done for you. Then there'll be duplication. So if all members follow all tutorial and assumiing they can get to page 1 of google, how many of the same product sellers can rank on page 1?? Will google allow it??

    Hmmm...this topic on saturation is really debatable.
  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    Before I comment, let me be 100% clear that I work for Mike Filsaime - and I also helped design and put together MMBS (as well as Profit Platform). My comments will be centered on answering specific issues - not try to tell anyone how awesome it is

    So...

    Originally Posted by Bloggerkhan View Post

    Mike Filsaime launched his Micro Model Business System this week geared towards the newbie market.

    There have been similar programs from several other internet marketers over the last two years and they all do a great job making life easier for you. However; they all have the same weakness. If 1000 people sign up for this offer, all of a sudden there will be a 1000 marketers like you trying to market the same products. Talk about sibling rivalry.

    Besides, the key to all this is traffic. You can have the best product in the world but without traffic, it means nothing.

    The Micro Model Business System does teach you the basics of traffic but you may have to take additional courses to learn and generate traffic. For a limited time, they are providing a traffic course for free and that's a relief because without traffic, everything else is meaningless. Learning how to generate traffic is not brain surgery but requires time and patience.
    Gary made a great post on saturation and I agree with him totally. It IS about getting traffic.

    Several years ago I made a Popup Generator software, even though there were already countless others on the market. I did it because I knew I had something many of the others did not - traffic to sell it. And it did well, even with all the "saturation". You have to get beyond that thinking... whether using MMBS or being an affiliate for someone else.

    MMBS includes a library of different traffic training methods. Some free, others not. But it's there to learn from. And as stated here - it does take patience.

    Mike's 14 day trial is designed for you to play with the system, to see how easy it is to get some sites up and running - not for you to drive traffic to. You'd need more than 14 (or even 30) days if you are new to traffic generation... but with time and diligence, you can do it.

    Mike
  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    Originally Posted by Adam X View Post

    I find the whole system well put together actually. The one thing I don't like about the system is its emphasis on the make money niche or related niches such as Facebook marketing, List management, back linking and so on. Hopefully the added niches to come will be of a more general nature: health, education and so on.

    Its true however, These same sites will be built my all members. Could be 100 members , could be 10,000. However, You shouldn't expect the traffic to be coming from google but more along the lines of forum commenting, article and video marketing, yahoo answers and so on. of course all this can be automated. The products/websites are all listed in paydotcom it seems, so its possible to have affiliates promoting your product, but I wouldn't count on it.
    First, thanks. We put some effort in to making it a user friendly, simple system to use.

    As for niches - it is really a 50-50 thing. 50% are I.M. related, 50% other niches. Members get 25 when they join and the rest you get 2 products per month until you get to 50 products (and who knows - perhaps more than that). The system is designed to release 1 IM and 1 Niche product each month. This gives people an opportunity to sell outside the I.M. market.

    And you are 100% correct about traffic. Don't expect much from Google. Even if there were only 10 people selling these - lately Google has been beating back sales pages in many niches... find other traffic sources. Google isn't the only one.

    Mike
  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    Originally Posted by DK7667 View Post

    I absolutely agree with you on all points. I find it hard to believe how these internet marketers continueously MASK over the TRUTH with all these long drawn out sales videos, which NEVER focus or even mention the REAL requirements which are needed to make money online.
    Yes, real requirements are needed - such as hosting (provided), products (provided), training on how to drive traffic (provided).

    There's no masking here. Mike is selling a system. He even states in his sales video that there are no PUSH BUTTON SALES MACHINES. It takes work.

    Like I said - no masking here.

    Mike
  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    Originally Posted by ProfessorMetal View Post

    <quote>Its true however, These same sites will be built by all members.</unquote>

    That's the exact thought that I had when I encountered Mike's program. The first few people that buy in might make some decent money but it won't be long until the market is saturated and nobody will make anything. I'm somewhat disappointed in Mike on this one. With his experience he knows that's what's going to happen. The only person who stands to make a killing on it is Mike. I'm sure it's a great product but I'm afraid it's doomed to a short shelf life.

    I ran across something else that I'm curious about but I'll start another thread on it.
    No, it takes more than being the first one.

    It takes being someone who is diligent and not afraid to put forth effort. It takes being someone who thinks outside the box a little.

    Disappointed in Mike for providing a system to help people get through some of the more technical aspects of product creation, site building, etc.? Well, you're entitled to that opinion. But I made a boatload of money over the years building sites like these - manually. I coulda done it faster with MMBS

    Mike
  • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
    So I'm a little confused?

    If we sign up, do we only get one (1) site that we choose from 25 options?

    or

    Do we get 25 self hosted sites at the same time once we sign up?

    Thanks for clarification
  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    Originally Posted by Gary Pettit View Post

    So I'm a little confused?

    If we sign up, do we only get one (1) site that we choose from 25 options?

    or

    Do we get 25 self hosted sites at the same time once we sign up?

    Thanks for clarification
    Gary,

    You immediately get 25 sites. If you stay in you get 2 more per month until you hit 50 sites.

    Hope this helps,
    Mike
  • Profile picture of the author ProfessorMetal
    Mike,

    I think you misread me. I'm sure it's a great product with a lot of great info. That's not my point. My disappointment is in the fact that everybody is going to be promoting the same things which is going to dilute everybody's efforts. That's happened with many other programs of similar ilk and I'm sure Mike knows this. As far as Mike himself goes I have great respect for him.
  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    Originally Posted by ProfessorMetal View Post

    Mike,

    I think you misread me. I'm sure it's a great product with a lot of great info. That's not my point. My disappointment is in the fact that everybody is going to be promoting the same things which is going to dilute everybody's efforts. That's happened with many other programs of similar ilk and I'm sure Mike knows this. As far as Mike himself goes I have great respect for him.
    I hear what you're saying. But I agree with Gary's assessment. You can and do have many people promoting and selling the same thing in most every arena. Of COURSE Mike knows this.

    Mike also knows that roughly 95% of the users will do nothing more than build sites and that's it. There's a difference between simply putting up a site and actually promoting it. But that doesn't mean he shouldn't build tools to help those who DO want to do more, and to make money while he's at it.

    We've read these same comments regarding Profit Platform. Yet there are indeed people making money with that system.

    As someone who has manually built and promoted similar sites and products - and as someone who works with people who WANT to but don't have some of the technical skills required - this system is a dream come true. I have a partner in my own business who is a WHIZ as SEO but after 4 years STILL can't edit html and has a hard time with FTP

    MMBS is simply a tool to help with the technical aspects of building and managing sites.
  • Profile picture of the author leedev
    What is needed to make it even more valuable for buyers is to add Editing, Branding / Personalisation and Viral features where you can change or modify the author's name, product name and other selected features.

    It will take the offer to a new level.

    This a good programmer can do. There is already a package on the amarket with these features, so it can be done.

    Maybe Mike will listen.



    Originally Posted by ProfessorMetal View Post

    Mike,

    I think you misread me. I'm sure it's a great product with a lot of great info. That's not my point. My disappointment is in the fact that everybody is going to be promoting the same things which is going to dilute everybody's efforts. That's happened with many other programs of similar ilk and I'm sure Mike knows this. As far as Mike himself goes I have great respect for him.
  • Profile picture of the author rprosser
    I had a look recently and at least some of the products turn out to be available elsewhere, with resale rights. Plus they are all over the web and the quality of the ones that I saw is not that good. A pity, because the basic concept is an attractive one.

    So I cancelled in favour of building my own sites with high-quality and more exclusive packages, on a hosting service that I have already paid for.
  • Profile picture of the author ProfessorMetal
    >>>Mike also knows that roughly 95% of the users will do nothing more than build sites and that's it. There's a difference between simply putting up a site and actually promoting it. But that doesn't mean he shouldn't build tools to help those who DO want to do more, and to make money while he's at it.<<<

    I can't argue with that and I'd say your 95% figure is probably close to the mark. I think Leedev's ideas are a good way to at least nullify some of the potential saturation problems.
  • Profile picture of the author ProfessorMetal
    >>P.S. If I wasn't clear... Saturation doesn't exist.<<

    Keep on telling yourself that, Gary. If you've got 100,000 people promoting the same product vs 10 people promoting it, in which scenario is the individual marketer likely to make the most money?
  • Profile picture of the author chayil
    Originally Posted by ProfessorMetal View Post

    >>P.S. If I wasn't clear... Saturation doesn't exist.<<

    Keep on telling yourself that, Gary. If you've got 100,000 people promoting the same product vs 10 people promoting it, in which scenario is the individual marketer likely to make the most money?

    I agree with you. I think Gary must understand that this is what the potential buyers are concerned with this. I think we are not referring to niches being saturated. Surely there's a market for it, a market for the niche, but not for the same product and sales page.

    Gary and Mike(not Mike Filsaime), suppose I ask you to share your websites that are making you money, share them with the warriors here - everything from the sales page to the product (ebook or videos or whatever), let them use the exact same sales copy and product, and let them keep 100% of the profits. You can charge hosting etc or just like the what Mike Filsaime is charging - $29.95. Are you willing to share them???

    Yup...sounds like PLR or MRR...but no, you dun create a separate product and share them. Share your existing business - sales copy and ebook product. Are you willing to do that?? What will you face - competition....period.

    Even warriors here selling their WSO who teach IM, don't really share their personal sites for the purpose of teaching, for some fear that the students will copy their idea.

    So Gary and Mike, if you are willing to share your business, then I may agree with you that saturation does not exist...

    Sorry if I sound harsh....just to emphasize a point here.
  • Profile picture of the author Gary_The_Ace
    Originally Posted by ProfessorMetal View Post

    >>P.S. If I wasn't clear... Saturation doesn't exist.<<

    Keep on telling yourself that, Gary. If you've got 100,000 people promoting the same product vs 10 people promoting it, in which scenario is the individual marketer likely to make the most money?
    That's not realistic in this case... don't be silly.

    That said, in some cases, it could actually mean MORE money. Do you think Starbucks is having a problem with saturation? How about the hundreds of thousands of retailers currently selling the Harry Potter books, or any other print book for that matter.

    Sure, if the Harry Potter books were sold at one retailer that one retailer would make more than any other... and if they were only sold at 10, those 10 would make more than the other 99,990... but don't you think there's more to be made overall if those books are sold at all 100,000 retailers.

    Also, if saturation applies here... why doesn't it apply to EVERY affiliate promotion, every MLM company, and any other direct sales company in the world?

    I know there are thousands of people currently promoting the SAME products on ClickBank, on Amazon, etc... and all of those links are pointing to the same sales page, the same product, etc. Are you saying that all affiliates are stupid then? Because it seems to me you're saying they're all promoting into a saturated market... and the only smart move is to promote into a market were you're the only retail source.

    You can believe me, or not believe me... won't impact my bottom line one bit.

    That said, you keep thinking like you currently are... it will negatively impact yours.

    -Gary Ambrose

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