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Yes, I found this now, but the first page I was directed to said that I needed Windows Media Player, which I already had, which didn't play the videos, so I then tried to download another version, which then didn't work, de da de da, and I wasted a lot of time. But I'm viewing the videos OK now. I really hope this product is what is sets out to be as I have a great list I could sell it to. I have made a solemn promise to my list that I won't recommend anything that I haven't tried and used myself, so I need this to work! Thanks for your help. Sarah | |
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No problem Sarah.
Simon PS. As I understand it they are also going to be offering bog standard wmv for downloads shortly as well. Making them flv was a balls up IMO, I think 99.9% of their CS has been about watching/downloading these things. |
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No products of his but he does recommend a couple of keyword tools, which have either free or pay versions available, generally he just uses the free versions but I think he had a subscription to one service which was about $20 a month.
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They have a FLV player which works perfectly on their download page it's at the top , they also added Windoze media versions of all the vids an hour or so ago.
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Affiliate Payload is Alex Goads program which is entirely focussed on CPA, Commision Blueprint has no relevence to CPA at all, and Nemisis is a server side hosted landing page product with a big emphasis on integral TID tracking for a kind of pseudo multivariate approach and one touch set up. It's really hard to compare them, they are just simply completley different beasts. It would depend entirely on what you feel your strengths are and what you want to do. Quote:
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I would never ever use an affiliate link, I have no ties personally or financially to any IM product, I simply say it as I see it.
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Personally I think IM is a tough sell, the market is pretty jaded, If you use CB basically every IM'er knows to just use their own Hoplink to cut out the affiliates cut, this doesn't happen in civvy street. No straight answer to that, if your going to make IM, then you need a list, no question about it, and your up against a lot of competition. General markets are less forgiving. Sorry I can't help more than that. | ||||
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Hello Everyone,
If you want to be able to play the videos error free, use a flash player extension which you can download and install in 2 minutes. Here is the link to download it if you want to. Adobe - Adobe Flash Player. Its free to download. |
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I purchased out of curiousity. There are a ton of similiar products out there. The videos have some good content, but to be honest, they are just power point files with a PIP webcam. Nothng earth shattering about presentation, but you are buying for content.
I'd agree, this is not for total newbies. Everyone seems to quickly jump on the adwords train and not realize how quickly the cpc costs add up. Newbies are sure to end up spending a bundle on this without taking the time to put all the pieces in place first. I struggled with the downloads as well. I believe it may have been an issue with the S3 service, but I noticed they added windows media downloads now as well. I passed on the OTO, I have enough monthly subscriptions emptying my wallet now. Jeff |
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I went to purchase today but they raised the price $20 to $97. Strange how that dampens my desire to purchase. Everybody wants the best deal
$20 lousy bucks and I probably won't buy now. I'm trying to talk myself into it
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If you have Real Player installed on your comp, you can use it to play the video files as well.
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The FLV player they recommend is wimpy_flv_player_pc and I downloaded it for free and it plays the videos OK.
I've now watched half of the videos and I'm now much more in favour than I was before. I think the content is sound and sensible and I've picked up some good ideas from the lessons so far. This program would not be suitable for absolute newbies but it would be a good step up from some of the crappier GRQ schemes that get people started online. I'll watch the remaining videos and report back on here when I've finished. Sarah |
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Most people are rating the videos, but what about the ebooks and bonus content? What information do they provide and is it any good?
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You don't need to scouting around for it, it's on the download page at the top. Every program you could ever need to view either video source or to open any of the bonuses etc are there on the download page. | |
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Sarah I'm still on the fence about purchasing so any further details will be appreciated. Anybody that has actually applied the principles and has some results good or bad.
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I have no problem with any of that, doesn't cross any boundaries for me and I have a pretty low threshold for BS and unethical tactics. | ||
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I purchased Affiliate Payload. One of the better products I've purchased. Very thorough. My only issue is using PPC to generate traffic as I'm just not a big fan of PPC. Seems to me like the only one(s) getting rich is Google. Having said that, his info and sources of CPAs (Cost per Action) is outstanding! I would gladly pay just for that.
On Affiliate Blueprint, even if he really did Gross (Not profit) $500K, he would have spent $3-400K to generate that and I doubt he grossed $500K anyway using his methods. |
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Thanks for the posts guys... this sure saved me some cash
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It looks like a good product, and I'm considering to buy it. Thanks for the reviews.
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If you look through this thread you'll see that the positive comments are coming from those that actually own it .You could easily pay a web guy double this just for the included squeeze/landing page templates they include.
Zilch complaints here personally as an actual owner of the product. |
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Well based on Simons opinion I just purchased. I also opted to sign up for their membership at $5 for 7 days and then $67 monthly from then on. I'll give it a good look for 6 days and then opt out if it's not first rate.
I've never found a great source of PPC landing page material so even if that's good it will have value to me. I'll post my view on the material once I've had some time to review. |
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I'm about half way through my second time around on the vids now, just watching vid 5 as we speak funnily enough, this time around I'm actually carrying out the same actions as they do and pausing it as I go. | |
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A lot of people were talking about how to 'fake' clickbank statments...
It's very easy to do. In no way am i promoting you to do this, but if you want to you go to your stats page and put in the code for this video: YouTube - Earn Millions from Clickbank in Minutes Im not saying you should do this...but that is how the 'guru's' have so much money in their account. Zach |
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Yeah, seen it done many times, easy bit of javascript , I'm convinced this is what a lot of these guys who do the "earnings" videos do.
For reference however you can't put faked screen shots on your ptich page, if your using Clickbank. Clickbank verify each CB earnings screen shot used on your pitch page before they will approve you, it's one of the few things they are quite anal about, your date etc must be visible on the screen shot and they correlate that data before allowing making your account live. Of course, nothing stopping somebody changing the screen shots after they have been approved I guess, but that would be a hell of a gamble. My 2 cents... |
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Very true! I just looked at the product and now its 97 dollars?
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matthewd. I sent him an emails asking and he told me they aren't giving any more out to affiliates due to them posting the links on forums....Still, I don't like being painted with such a broad brush y'know?
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I've just finished watching the videos and looking at some of the resources that they recommend. What they say is to chose 4-6 products, based on their selection criteria, and then promote them via PPC according to the Adwords strategy they teach. The idea is that one or two products will be winners and then you tweak the campaigns to scale them into ultra profitability. I've used Adwords a lot in other contexts and the strategy they teach seems reasonable. I have in mind some products to start on and I'll post again when I've anything to report. Sarah | |
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Thanks Sarah, I have purchased based on Simons opinion.
I've just finished video 7 and I have to say I am very, very impressed. They are offering a well presented system rather than just information, videos are well done and very well presented. This has the feel of a much more expensive program, it could easily have been offered for a LOT more money and pushed by the big Guru List Marketers. $97 is a steal. $67 for their monthly membership.... I will have to wait and see ![]() It is NOT for the person starting with little or no budget. I think you need at least $2-$3,000 to impliment this business model so if your just starting out and money is an issue you need to look elsewhere. Programs that are designed to get you free traffic and build much more slowly. AdSense sites, Content Marketing, Blogs etc. Quote:
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I purchased this product the other day and I can tell you that it's not exactly for an Adwords newbie. In fact, Steve , the narrator/publisher, indicates as much throughout the training videos.
I consider myself just slightly above a newbie when it comes to Adwords as I've ran several campaigns in the past. However, around Video #9 (Managing Your Campaign), I was completely lost. Had to watch it a couple of times to try and understand the concept. Steve does go into detail how you can use both paid and free tools to develop your campaigns, but I suggest that whoever buys this product does so with a few bucks to spend on the resources. The actual delivery of the content is nothing special, but the layout is very friendly and the templates that are provided are very helpful. If new to the Adwords game, I suggest you purchase another product and/or go online and see if you can't find some free tutorials on Adwords first. |
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I'm trying it on much less than $2k, because : a) You can just trial 1 campaign at a time not 4-5, get 1 working then use that to fund the rest of the tests. b) He states $500 per day but that's budget limit, not what your daily clicks may end up costing, it's purely there to tell Google your serious, they do say you could start at $150-$200 a day if you're feeling wary.Infact that's what they did in the early days. By the way, not sure if you got the e-mail from them, but they are releasing new material shortly which will focuss on how to create some seed money via organic techniques, apparently it's all going to be free, I like the price tag at least. Should be interesting, all in all, I'm absolutely happy with this purchase, think that's pretty rare. I would advise total newbies to suss basic adwords techniques out to use in conjunction with this, tip, Googles own guide is hugely underated frankly, and it's free. | |
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If they can produce one quality video with resources once a month which adds some skill or technique to the arsenal, I'll be happy for $67. Personally I'm no fan of these systems that add dozens of new things to deal with each month, just give me something very usable, and make it time efficent to implement and I'll stay a member. | |
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I'm making a couple thousand a month thanks to Jack Humphrey and ASC, but could never get the whole PPC thing down. It has bugged the heck out of me, since I now this is the fastest way to reach 10,000+ per month.
I have purchased and digested almost every PPC affiliate book offered over the past two years. Commission Blueprint is the first time I feel 100% confident that I will create a campaign that is highly profitable. The video on adjusting bids to increase profitablility was worth the price of the entire course. AFF144 by Andre Chaperon of marketingbully was another really solid course that just came out. His stuff is very solid! Rusty |
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They supply templates for both a sales page and a squeeze page and both look very good. I'm rubbish at writing sales copy but I have easily adapted their example text for an acne(!) product to sell something in a completely different niche. I'm hoping to get a PPC campaign on this ready over the weekend. Quote:
I don't think you need this much money to get started. I think you could start cautiously with about $200 and, if successful, plough profits back in. They talk in the course of 'investing' $500 in a campaign. The chances are that you would make some sales even if you didn't make any profit so you probably wouldn't have to write all of that off. I think cash-flow is more of a problem because you have to wait so long for Clickbank to pay you. :-( Sarah | ||
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There are numerous thread about Stomper net on the forum however. I would run a search, there is no correlation between Stompernet and WA at all.
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So let me get this straight, you don't need a huge budget, you don't need to be able to write awesome sales copy and we should be able to keep the shirt on our backs when starting up. Sounds ok so far.
Can we have a very general summary of the steps required to make it work? |
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I bought it and I must say there is nothing in it that I didn't already know.
I don't like the fact that it is only videos - a manual is much easier to glance through - and for skipping parts you already know. It basically tells you all the stuff that most other products tell you: - how to pick a market - how to do keyword research - how to write a presales page - how to track keywords I mean everything is explained in details and in a nice and professional way - for a newbie it might be a good product - better than many others. It is just that from the sales copy I was expecting much more... |
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Excellent program. One of the best dollars spent for PPC info.
Nice to be able to see Steve as he explains his system. You pick up on the nuances of his techniques. Steve is a very generous supporting person in the forums. Best part is he has a simple "system" that can be duplicated and remove the guess work. Actually, think it is great for experienced PPC players. People new to PPC should always be cautious of using PPC. You can lose a bundle in minutes if you do not have a stop loss. Bill |
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Well, I am a guru baiter but I'd say this is good. And as for video problem cited in the earlier posts in this thread, flv files are not meant to be run by wmp but needs a flv player and its available for free to download from download.com
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Hey Sarah--I have been folowing your posts on Commission Blueprint. Have you actually put up any sales pages yet with any results good or bad? If so, I would like to see your page.
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Judging from all the various comments, Commission Blueprints seems more suited for the intermediate marketer than the newbie.
Ami right to say it is more focused on PPC to generate traffic => Review/Opt-In => Affilate Product. So is it worth the $97 to buy and learn the knowledge within? Please advise. Many thanks in advance. |
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Hi
I have been in Internet Marketing (IM) seriously for 2 years while trying to keep my own herbal business going too; I have not made much money from IM (yet). As often the case, I have been diverted by every new offering out there... Anyway, point is I have learned tons of stuff, which I love doing, but have yet to get it to click into place. However, Commission Blueprint (CBlue) has moved me firmly in that direction. I realize I like a decent course (rather than a single ebook), preferably with vids plus documentation, which gives me a good overview of a method of using IM to make money. (Eg I liked Blog Classroom a lot as far as 'how exactly to use Wordpress.' Though it is expensive, and it doesn't actually get you to the point of making money.) As I've indicated, I am satisfied with CBlue. In fact, I am more than satisfied. To summarize, I would say: - It's not for experts. Probably nothing new for them. - It's not a complete system for newbies - some pieces of the puzzle are skated over. Though it would give them a very good start. - They have given a method with minimal need to purchase additional time-saving software, having regard to the very limited budget of some. The whole thing is about: 1. How to choose affiliate products to promote which are more likely to give success 2. The basics of creating a site to pre-sell those products 3. Some useful info on how to create an Adwords campaign; but, more importantly, how to actively manage that campaign. This involves: a. Assessing your 3-4 (say) Clickbank projects, to identify the winner and reject the losers b. Losing the loss-making Adwords ads and adding more which might be successful c. Ramping up your spend as cash flow allows) to increase your return d. Monitoring the new, added, Adwords ads and again eliminating the unprofitable ones semi-automatically. Once a successful Adwords campaign (ie one earning money daily) is set up, the monitoring can be cut back to weekly, then maybe monthly to check all is still ok. Those are the 3 main steps. Not rocket science to some of you - but the information they give on each step has provided a good overview for me, plus filled in a number of details which have been very informative and which will make me money. SHORTCOMINGS Maybe unfair to call them shortcomings - let's say observations of where I needed additional input, or where someone else might. 1. There is talk of creating a 'landing page'. They even give you a couple of 'proven' landing pages for you to borrow, change, and use. However, you then (to please Google) have to create a mini-site attached to the landing page to pass Google's 'quality' test. This fact is mentioned but should have been emphasised more. 'Landing page' is mentioned often; '5-10 page site' is not, really. To me, who can put up a 5 page site fairly easily it's fine; to someone who is not used to this, I could see them wandering off to Front Page, Dreamweaver or NVU (heaven forbid) and getting lost. (I find it easiest with XSite Pro.) Summary: you need to be comfortable with creating a mini-site to use this method. This also adds time to getting to 'Go'. 2. Adwords: Though I have used Adsense, I have not personally run an Adwords campaign. That is a chunk of the puzzle that needs learning. No criticism of CBlue for this: it does not profess to be an Adwords tutorial, but it's something - obvious in hindsight - which suddenly hit me when I got to that bit of the process. I recommend going off to do Google's own training on Adwords as an essential part of learning this bit. More time - factor in a number of hours getting on top of this stuff. CBlue emphasises that Adwords Editor - free from Google - is essential to learn to use to save time; also that it is not easy to learn. So more time needed on this part of the Adwords learning. 3. Tracking: Tracking every click of your Adwords ads is an important part of the CBlue method; however, this is something which is mentioned briefly in the videos, but tripped many people up (as evidenced by forum posts). HOWEVER - A forum member has produced an excellent 'idiot's guide' which walks you through the simple php etc needed, where a character out of place blows the whole thing. So - you need to learn this stuff too and apply it. Sorry - more time! SUMMARY In summary, I am delighted with it. First - it's only £50 or so ($97). Have I picked up stuff which will earn me that amount? Oh yes. Do you have to do 'your own learning'? Yes - but I enjoy that anyway. However, I know many people will just not follow through and do all that is need to make this work. That's life. I suppose the word 'Blueprint' in the title is overstating the case a bit; but then if they explained every single step of the process it would be 50 videos rather than 14, so I forgive them. TIPS If you are like me: you know a fair bit of stuff but you would like a good framework, with solid videos, excellent backup printed material (eg a Word document with the words from every slide on it - excellent quick reference), and a very good forum (with frequent input from one of the authors), then this is for you and here are my tips: 1. Choosing keywords - It seems to me that Nichebot is quick and not expensive. 2. Identifying Clickbank winners - Affiliate Elite helps a lot. 3. Creating Adwords ads - Affiliate Elite again - gosh that' good market information. 4. Copy for Adwords ads - Adwords Miracle - this guy is good at writing Adwords ads. I use his suggestions. These tools cost money, of course. Others have, no doubt, commented on some of these offerings elsewhere in the formum, so maybe check out other comments. FINAL WORD For me this is a great product; it's low cost (I have no intention currently of joining the monthly thing they offer), with well produced vids and good documentary backup; the forum is very informative; the forum has a good community feel. I am using it now, and I feel strongly that my 2-year apprenticeship in IM is about to bear fruit. (OK - maybe I've felt that before - but not so strongly - ok?) Hope this assessment is helpful to some other members. Malc :-) |
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Hi jj88
Affiliate Elite is s subscription based service. $4.95 for a trial month then $40 a month. You download and install a client, and it queries through their servers. It's possibilities for affiliates using Clickbank and Adwords seem to me to be mind blowing. Take 10 minutes to check it out and watch the demo videos. If you are using these two methods you will not be wasting your time. For $4.95 - play for a month. Niche: Interesting. I did not realize this was such a big problem for many affiliates. My plan would be to identify a method to test many niches as fast as possible, then run with those that pass the test. I believe ComBlue helps here. I am currently working through my8 system (ComBllue based) the first time. Once I have got used to it and refined it - and added tools to speed things up, I believe I will be testing niches in a jiffy, and letting the market tell me which ones fly. By the way, I am leaning more towards Adwords' Miracle's 'Test a Clickbank product in a niche for a $5 spend', rather than CommBlue's - 'Test a Clickbank product in a niche for $250 spend'. Though I think $5 may be a little mean :-) Another tools CommBlue recommends is Ad Grenade. Wow! Populate Adwords Editor with your keywords, and with tracking codes in a heartbeat. Looks stunning to me. NICHE: By the way, as to finding a niche, try reframing that; not - Find a niche which is profitable, but - Find the keywords/phrases for a niche which no-one is bidding on yet - or which are cheap. Cheers Malc |
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PS jj88 - yes, Affiliate Elite does have a forum. Haven't used it extensively, but it is good from what I have seen. I also put in a ticket to support and got a reply within an hour or so.
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My take is: How many people do you really think find tools like this; subscribe to them; actually use them; and keep the whole thing up consistently? And in the same niches as you? With the intelligence and determination you have? ;-) Not many. There's plenty out there for everyone who sticks to a system and gets it working. Once it is working, tools like this leverage your efforts. $40 expensive? How about thinking of it in terms of doubling or trebling your daily profits? If it doesn't then ditch it. Remember, you have a month to find out how it works for just $5. If you can't see it doubling your profits by then, cancel your subscription until your system is developed enough that you can. Then you can resubscribe. (You could even use a different email address to get the $5 trial again.....) :-) I don't suppose author Brad Callen would mind you taking a second trial if he thought he might get a long term customer out of it. Don't say I said so though.) Anyway, what's your alternative plan for getting rich? If you've got one, do share. :-) But then I have spent probably $2000 in 2 years on software and ebooks. I see it as education. I take the point that if you haven't got it you can't spend it; but $5 is not a lot to invest. Good luck. Malc |
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Hey Sarah,
Interesting I read your message today as I am watching the Commission Blueprint videos right now. I purchased it and have shared it with my subscribers who are interested in learning how to do affiliate marketing. I downloaded the Wimpy video view they provided and it's easy to watch the videos with it. So far it seems like a pretty complete program to help those who want to learn how to create income online with affiliate marketing. I have been doing affiliate marketing for several years, so I am always looking for a product to help my subscribers. Today they are buying it and all is well! Anyone not familiar can learn about it here: http://AffiliateCommissionBlueprint.com Many blessings. |
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And this next part won't make me too many friends, but I have no problem selling it because the majority are buying HOPE not EDUCATION. That's why the same guys and gals who bought DJK would likely buy this and a dozen other courses if there are big numbers attached to it. They'll jump up and down for courses that show million-dollar CB accounts... never bothering to ask themselves how much of that is NET income. A marketer colleague, who I'll keep anonymous, had a promo for how he made over $330,000 in whatever X days he had. But, that successful promo had a lot of development cost, review copies (physical product), time investment AND paid his JVs 70% comm. Not a bad pay day but his net was high five-figures not close to mid-six figures. BIG difference. Another marketer I know uses a funded proposal system to pitch a "make money" type product but sells other memberships in the sales funnel. He spent $120k in advertising to gross $66k with sales of that primary product. Of course he lost money on that main product, but came out with a worthwhile net based on his cross promos. But his audience doesn't know this. His prospects aren't told this. ANd most of them wouldn't care because they're shopping for HOPE not solutions. | |
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