Reviews on Ryan Deiss #1 Book System?

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Has anyone signed up for the recently launched program by Ryan Deiss on getting your ebook published on Kindle? It is called the #1 Book System and has a book club of ebook publishers for a community support.
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  • Profile picture of the author 0898
    How much is the course? The 'add to cart' button on the video sales page doesn't appear when you view on an iPhone.

    I've been through the prelaunch material and really enjoyed it. Might consider depending on the price.
  • Profile picture of the author ECoughlin
    Thanks Elizabeth, for the heads up on the other course, will definitely check it out. Inspired Writer, can you describe the solutions that Ryan's course offered that were holding you back?

    Eunice
  • Profile picture of the author Doiron
    I'd suggest Geoff Shaw's "Kindling". It gets great reviews from Tiffany Dow and Dr. Andy Williams - two marketers I trust. It's a very complete product and continues to grow with updates.

    To be honest, after looking at what Ryan Deiss is offering, and especially at that price, I'm unsubscribing from anyone's list who is supporting it. I've dropped three so far.

    You might want to look at Dr. Andy Williams' blog and his (partial) review of Ryan's course and the subsequent comments. Not flattering, to say the least.
    • Profile picture of the author MDAZ
      I have to agree Doiron with this, I purchased the whole entire enchilada. I think it's way overpriced and so far there's only 1 video on day one, the rest are links to other people's articles on how to come up with ideas to write about. Weak information and overpriced.
  • Profile picture of the author lovecareshare
    Hi all,
    I followed the Ryan Deiss No. 1 Book system, and found it tempting if not for the 97x3. Personally, I think it is too steep a price for Kindle newbie. I'm using those Kindle WSOs by markmotts, Sam England, Matthew Rhodes and Rosa...and they are great and affordable! I'm in the process of publishing my first Kindle book soon! cheers, Bob
    • Profile picture of the author Rick Wagoner
      What are the OTO's (& prices) for this course?

      Thanks in advance,

      Rick
    • Profile picture of the author ElizabethAdams
      You're very welcome, Eunice...

      Doiron's mention of Dr. Andy's review of "Kindling"
      reminded me of it...it's very helpful, too...here's the link:
      Kindling Course by Geoff Shaw

      InspiredWriter's mention of the OTOs doubling the
      price of the Deiss course from $300 to $600
      also reminded me that Deiss does do that...

      At the end of the day, though, it seems to me
      that what really matters is how well a course
      helps you learn what you need to know...

      Speaking just for myself, Shaw's training method
      works better for me than Deiss'...

      If your business model involves product launches
      every few months, though, then modeling what Deiss
      *does* will probably help you get where you want to go...

      But following what he *says* may have you going
      around in circles, if you don't understand
      from the start what business you're in...

      Basically, no matter what business you're in,
      you're really in the marketing business...

      in the attention-getting business...

      the mechanics of writing a book and uploading it
      to Amazon's Kindle platform are a lot like the
      mechanics of writing and uploading an article
      to EzineArticles...

      no guarantee that it's even going to get seen,
      let alone read!

      ----------------------------------
      the biggest mistake you can make
      ----------------------------------

      is thinking of Kindle as a money-making scheme...

      self-publishing is a lucrative *business*
      with several profitable channels
      one of which is Kindle

      WHO

      are you publishing for?

      that's the question

      the heart and soul of *marketing*

      HOW

      are you accessing them?

      giving up on Google and turning to Amazon?

      where else do they hang out? Facebook? Twitter?

      WHAT

      are you serving them?

      WHERE

      are you putting the pickle!




      I'm okay with the idea of collapsing time frames
      by investing in quality instruction...

      I've learned a whole lot from the training videos
      over at Lynda.com, for example, where $37 a month
      buys me access to top-notch instruction on a wide
      variety of technical topics, including but not
      limited to constructing effective websites...

      But whether you pay $6 or $60 or $600 or even $6000
      for instruction to shorten your learning curve,
      the key is the ROI, right?

      And the only way you're going to get a return on
      your investment is to maintain a 1:4 relationship
      between study and practice...

      to study for one hour and apply for three hours...

      FYI, Geoff Shaw's training makes this easy to do,
      which is one of the reasons I recommend it...

      The other reason I recommend it is Geoff *specializes*
      in self-publishing on Kindle, and he is *committed*
      to keeping the members' site right up-to-the-minute
      as far as new developments are concerned...

      This isn't to say that Deiss won't be keeping his
      site updated, or that you couldn't also collapse
      time frames with his training...

      It's just to say that Geoff's course is a proven
      package that's well-respected in the IM space,
      and it has the added advantage of being very
      reasonably priced...

      warmest regards...

      Elizabeth

  • Profile picture of the author espycameras
    From the outside Deiss' Number One Book Club looks like a high-end professionally managed membership site complete with all the necessary content and well thought out ways for members with common interests to communicate with each other to share thoughts and request reviews.

    However, once you get inside you find it is a poorly constructed membership shell with minimal content, no organized forum structure, zero interaction between Deiss (or his proxy), poorly written software, no support, and a large number of refund requests that have gone unanswered even after multiple requests.

    It is overpriced and overhyped, both the basic entry fee and the multiple OTO's.
    • Profile picture of the author ElizabethAdams
      Hello, espycameras...

      Thank you for sharing this...

      Deiss and his team do a great job of researching their market
      and identifying its "pain" and uncovering all its "hot buttons"
      that can be laid out in bullet points on sales letters...

      and they do a great job of crafting their "hook" and their "IFO"
      ("Irresistible Free Offer") which you can confirm for yourself by
      downloading their free ebook, "How To Sell 100 Books A Day,"
      which Dr. Andy says includes "7 tips you can use right now to help
      you launch your kindle books," and he gives the link to it here...
      The Kindle Publishing Challenge

      but when it comes to *perceived* value for the money,
      there seems to be some problems with Deiss products...
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      I'm not necessarily saying that the value isn't actually there...
      after all, that $600 includes attendance at an event, and Ryan
      comes across very well as a speaker, so that could turn out
      to be an awesome experience, if you're into events...

      but if you're not, then I'd say grab the free ebook, skip the pricey
      course, purchase Geoff Shaw's excellent Kindle training, and dig in!

      warmest regards...

      Elizabeth

  • Profile picture of the author easyrider7
    The content is absolutely pitiful - there is almost none of it.

    He promised that he would share his "proprietory secrets", but all this really amounts to are things like buying press releases, Facebook ads and posting on freebie sites (most of which seem to be spammed to death).

    In his sales presentations and interviews with some of his affiliates he told us that we would have access to his social media platforms to promote our books, but when you go to pay that is actually part of the OTO. In other words, he has low-balled us - isn't that illegal?

    Furthermore, the book on vertical gardening that his launch was focussed on is now about #55,585 in the overall paid listings. Furthermore, it is only #5 and #8 in a couple of very low-level categories. Not very impressive at all.

    I honestly don't think he and his team know very much about Kindle book marketing at all. Yes, they were able to get their Kindle Publishing book and the one on Pinterest up high in the rankings, but I suspect this was only because of the size of his lists.

    Regarding "The Community", it is disorganized and quite chaotic. There is limited involvement from his team. They are basically just letting everyone sort things out for themselves. And there are a few people who complaining about this.

    Overall, I would say there is little value in his training, but there will probably be some from "The Community" (although most of this value will be coming from other members - he is only facilitating it). For nearly $300 though, I don't think it is worth it.
  • Profile picture of the author InspiredWriter
    Back again for another update. I would have to say that my feeling on the program is that it is money well spent for my personal situation. There are problems for sure and members are pretty vocal about it so hopefully they do something about that soon.

    At the end of the day I could be upset about how much Ryan is making from the almost 3000 members when he is not playing an active role in the business model. I could be upset that the framework is clunky and so old school that it frustrates me to tears. But I am choosing not to focus on those issues and just focus on making it work for me. Ryan is just a business man who happens to have a long reach in the internet community. If he can use that to bring close to 3000 people together then I will make the most of it.

    I have found a lot of the course info to be general but there were a few pearls in there that I believe were well worth the money to know. I agree, drip fed content is not my choice for a learning platform. I like to get stuck in as soon as possible as do others, so there is a marketing tactic behind it for sure.

    As mentioned I bought all the upsells and I am still happy with them.

    The membership is now closed. As there is a member counter it will be interesting to see if that number goes down a lot over the next month. I just hope they get to fixing the issues that will drive people away. All in all it looks very much like this was as Rydan Deiss said "A Rushed Job" Hopefully ironing out the problems will be a quick job also.

    I understand all your comments easyrider7 and agree that the community is the glue for now. If that starts to unravel well then there is very little value indeed in the main product. Time will tell I guess as to the long term value.
  • Profile picture of the author Karthik Reddy
    Going by how well InspiredWriter is pushing the product in this thread, I would not touch the 1 book system even if it was 17$. 90% refund rate for this product is what I forsee.You don't fool people with false marketing for long.

    Thanks to Elizabeth and others for suggesting good alternative products.
  • Profile picture of the author geekett
    Thanks to Elizabeth and InspiredWriter (and all other input). I'd love to see an update now that there's been time to implement. InspiredWriter, any results to share?
    Thanks,
    Jen
  • Profile picture of the author workoutstuff1
    Someone else asked about this system in another thread, and someone suggested another WSO to check out. I've looked through all the comments, and so far they seem pretty good:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ior-style.html

    UPDATE: The thread that I got this link from has been taken down. Wonder why...?
  • Profile picture of the author ronnyl2288
    May I suggest a system that isn't as pigeon holed. How To Write an eBook - Pays 51% to affiliates at a $49 price point and you get ALOT OF VALUE FOR YOUR MONEY. In the meantime I will check out these others.
  • Profile picture of the author Dupois
    99.999% of WSO's and courses on the Warrior Forum are useless junk, no matter how supposedly reputable the sellers are (most of the glowing reviews are done by affiliates anyway).

    However Geoff Shaw's,'Kindling' is a proper course with no holes - full of details in all contexts - from someone who's genuinely making money with writing. It's $70 or thereabouts and is constantly being updated with useful snippets. I couldn't recommend it more highly.
  • Profile picture of the author CarlB
    Just sent my 4th refund request email ...

    Lets see what happens
  • Profile picture of the author SusanUSA
    I just want to leave my two cents . . . I have Ryan's course and love it. The teachings are complete, the services great, and the customer service excellent.

    I bought the whole program, and while it was a piece of change, I feel the value is there. The Number One Book Club is very active. I am a recent member so it may have taken a while for things to warm up. But there are about 5k members and it's a great opportunity to connect with other writers/publishers in your genre.

    I am going to the free ePub course in LA and bringing a guest with me (for free). I haven't fully tapped into all the assets the program offers, but I am pleased.

    BTW, I am a best-selling author (my current book has sales upwards of 250K) and I am a professional writer. I'm only saying that because a lot of people leave posts when they haven't yet crossed over into their success.

    I hope this helps as people make their decisions about how they want to invest in themselves. I also just purchased Geoff's program. It's a great price and can only add to my knowledge.

    Hope the best for you.
    • Profile picture of the author STLDave
      Originally Posted by SusanUSA View Post

      I just want to leave my two cents . . . I have Ryan's course and love it. The teachings are complete, the services great, and the customer service excellent.

      I bought the whole program, and while it was a piece of change, I feel the value is there. The Number One Book Club is very active. I am a recent member so it may have taken a while for things to warm up. But there are about 5k members and it's a great opportunity to connect with other writers/publishers in your genre.

      I am going to the free ePub course in LA and bringing a guest with me (for free). I haven't fully tapped into all the assets the program offers, but I am pleased.

      BTW, I am a best-selling author (my current book has sales upwards of 250K) and I am a professional writer. I'm only saying that because a lot of people leave posts when they haven't yet crossed over into their success.

      I hope this helps as people make their decisions about how they want to invest in themselves. I also just purchased Geoff's program. It's a great price and can only add to my knowledge.

      Hope the best for you.
      Hi Susan,

      Can you tell us anything about your experience at the live event? Is it a pitch-fest for higher end services of some kind? I've been debating about whether to go or not and of course that entails plane fare and hotel accommodations at the very least. My wife is a published author and has another book in a different genre completed and I have two books in process.

      Thanks!

      David
  • Profile picture of the author Dunnston
    I bought the course a little while ago and just started digging in. I am not sure why because every time I buy a Ryan Deiss course I end up feeling frustrated and ripped off.

    He over promises and under delivers every time. I guess it's my fault this time, was kind of dumb of me to think this time it would be different. I bought his upsell too and it didn't do what he said it would and when I asked for a refund, his support refused.

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