momakmak

Im looking to get some input about Solavei.
Have you joined?
Have you recruited new members?
Have you gotten paid?

I believe I will join soon and then send out direct mailing to get the word out and hopefully some downline.

Please do not post your Solavei affiliate links on this thread!

Christian C

I'm quite happy in making Solavei part of my mobile marketing business. It's pretty easy to pass on the info to others without doing any hard selling. I'm not sure if internet marketing is the most suitable for this kind of venture, but if you have business cards and pass them out everywhere you go - then you'll begin gathering people here and there.

This program won't make you rich but it does pay. Matter of fact, Today for the first time I used the debit card they provide. So it works! ; )

So again, direct mailing might not be the best approach, but give it a try for yourself. There is no large capital to invest and it's actually kinda fun.

All the best of luck.

nmoppa01

MLM and Network Marketing is a difficult business, you depend on your downline to earn money, most people who join are not active, especially if it is free to join.

CoachManny

I've been a part of it since early September. I love it!

I have saved money and made money.

I've used my Solavei Debit card multiple times.

I believe that is going to make a lot of noise in direct selling and network marketing.

Amazing!

I have the service and this is a no brainer in my opinion.

Manny

tyronne78

I just wrote a Solavei review on my site about a week ago.

wagsgraphx

I was interested in them also. I've come to learn that they are not the only Mobile phone MLM out here. Do your research.

Generally I'm not a fan of MLM, it seems the only successful people are the ones that are able to front load product on their downline.
The really successful people are often ones who have brought over existing downlines into the new MLM opportunity or have bought existing downlines from other products and brought them over.

If you are looking at MLM, make sure it's a product people need or are going to buy anyway. I think cell phones, coffee or any other consumable product might be worth a look, as long as it's price competitive to what the consumer can buy locally.

Make sure you have a strong/successful upline, that is interested in seeing you become successful, not just in unloading product on you.

wagsgraphx

My concerns about Solavei are:
1. How do people pay for one of the 3 phone choices they have?
2. Prices for the phones are somewhere about $150 - $550.
3. Are you targeting the same low income market that Cricket
does?
If so, see #1. I know people find the money for what they want often before getting what they need.

Will the market be receptive to those 3 phone choices?
Some phones already in possession by your potential client may be Soavei approved to switch over, but only work at 2g speeds.

Will people be willing to pay early cancellation fees to switch over or are those people not your market?

It will be interesting to watch this company's progress.

MLEWISJRONE

Question to those involved in Solavei how does it compare to My Lightyear?

wagsgraphx

Thanks for the detailed reply. The problem I see can be that people want instant gratification. They like walking into a store and walking out with a phone. How do people pay for their phone purchase? Does Solavei have a merchant account that you are able to use? How long does it take to get the phone?

I think the more hoops you make people jump through the less likely they are to buy.

What has been you most successful selling/recruiting method?

nmoppa01

"There are people already making good money with it, trust me. I don't happen to be one of them yet but I will be."

SAYS ENOUGH, lol, just propaganda

wagsgraphx

Like I stated previously, the big money makers are usually people who brought over existing downlines.

nmoppa01

Yes, that is how MLM works, having large (but more important: active) downliners. Unfortunately they are scarse, the active ones I mean. MLM/Network Marketing is a tough business in spite of what people tell you on their sales pages.

CoachManny

In this case...the company is so new everyone has the same opportunity as the next.

This is such an easy sell.

I was printing up some flyers where I work and my best friend/owner saw the flyer and later asked me about it since his Sprint contract was up.

Now he is signing up and so is his brother and so is another one of his employees and so is a friend.

Who doesn't want to save money on cell phone?

I broke my ATT contract and I'm coming out way on top over the next 12 months.

He asked me how he should handle it and I said it would b best that those 3 sign up under him instead of me because he would get a bonus and he would get $20 every single month. It then was a no-brainer to him that his phone bill will net @$29/mo and he is not even working the business. his exact repsonse "That would help me".

This is too simple,


Manny

momakmak

I will be joining this soon. I have a tmobile smartphone with 4g and I love their service.

Before the t-mobile I was with sprint. Hands down sprint was the worst service I ever had. They were so huge on marketing their service but it was ALL lies. It would cut in and out everywhere in my town and the 4g was terribly slow.

Anyone know how to get out of a contract? I still have my pops on my old sprint phone and he is cussing me out every day. LOL

seosoldier

I've heard that what you can do is just switch to the lowest service available which should only cost like $20/month. Not sure if that's true but it's worth asking about.

Then sign up for Solavei (see my sig) and invite friends and family and soon you'll be making enough income to pay for the $20/ month on the old contract AND get Solavei free. The main thing is that if you live in an area where TMobile has good coverage (there's a map on my site) you will be getting very good 4g fast service, unlimited talk/ text/ and data and say good riddance to effing Sprint!

CoachManny

Anyone from Puerto Rico here?

Solavei officially launches in Puerto Rico October 20th.

Puerto Rico Promotion.
In the month of October ONLY for NEW PR Members.
Free Sim card - $29 Value
Free 1st month of service - $49 Value.

Wow. Solavei is going all out! There is only room for 1,000 guests at the official launch event in San Juan. Make sure to register EARLY as there are thousands of people wanting to attend.

Company is growing fast.

35K members and it's still so early.

Thank you Solavei!

Manny

dexignz

I joined solavei with my own phone using a new number and the service has been great so far. The only thing I noticed is that if you use a phone that is not 4G then you won't benefit from the full network coverage. Example, I have an older andriod phone that's not 4g and sometimes my network was not available but when I took the sim card out and put in my newer 3g and 4g phone the signal was perfect. I've also recruited people in my network and their FAST Action Bonus is good and they pay! I recommend it.

stevet563

Not so. I am in a group with a gentleman who saw it big and developed a total system with lead capture pages, personal blog, banners, email swipes, a virtual printer for cards and flyers, an online training portal, a youtube channel, and a daily conderence call. Do you think with all this in place it is all hype and "just propaganda"? I don't think so. As a matter of fact, I know he's making a killing.

stevet563

do you have a link to the blog post?

TMercT

This sounds awesome, I am looking into trying this out.

momakmak

LOL, It has begun.

Theres so many places to "hide" affiliate links.

CoachManny

Did you know you are in violation of your member service agreement?

Go back and read it. I'm sure Solavei will be asking you to remove that page before you know it.

I Am Solavei!

Manny

hardwork7

No I didn't know that. I have been trying to do everything abiding by all the rules they have (which are many by the way).

CoachManny

I don't blame them...that helps them protect their name and future.

Read the member agreement in your backoffice. It will help.

Manny

seosoldier

Why is his page a violation?

Can one advertise a web site for Solavei as long as the ad itself does not mention Solavei in it?

CoachManny

We can advertise our Solavei site.

We are not allowed to set up facebook fanpages with the name Solavei in it.

Makes sense to me.

seosoldier

Yes, I agree that it makes sense in principle; yet a lot of people are doing such things and the Solavei powers that be don't seem to be doing much about it, so to me, if they're going to have rules then they have to try to make it an even playing field, not let some get away with it. And from what I have heard some of the initial founding members are breaking rules like this. I haven't investigated it because it's not my job but I did hear this and if it's true then that's not cool.

The rule makes sense but enforcing it is another thing altogether. At some point they'll have to hire a full time "enforcer" if they intend to keep the playing field level.

And I do think they may be clinging a little TOO tightly re some rules. There are a few things I do question their strictness on.

But in general I love the company and see a lot of potential and my service is great so far.

There are always some problems or disagreements with any company that makes and enforces (or doesn't enforce, as the case may be) rules!

In the end it can get down to a company (as in the case of one I'm dealing with now) arguing over distributors' rights to use the word productname vs the word product-name, and it's just ridiculous. Both keywords have 4000 monthly searches so to not use one is to lose 4000 potential customers but they're worried about their "brand" as opposed to caring about making sales!

Another thing is a company will say YOU CAN'T PUT "PRODUCTNAME" in the name of your domain, but then they allow everyone to put pages up like "MYSITE.com/PRODUCTNAME" so really, what's the difference?? Do you see what I mean? Sometimes it can get kind of petty and silly.

And sometimes the rules are not enforced and sometimes then they are selectively enforced and that's what I have a problem with... when it's not a level playing field and the rules do not apply to everyone. And as I say, sometimes the rules cannot be enforced, really, unless the co. hires a full time staff to enforce them!

So it's going to be interesting to see how this all pans out!

In any case I am very optimistic about Solavei and INTEND to make a lot of money with it!

CoachManny

You make some very good points!

I know they are going after violators and giving them the take it down warnings.

You are right tho...they will need a full time person to make the playing field even.

Manny

seosoldier

Manny, I'd like to add however that I do hope when they find violations they give the person a chance to right things and not just kick them out. I have seen many cases where people - like the guy above with the Facebook page - didn't realize they were violating TOS.

I'm a big believer in giving someone a 2nd chance, unlike Google with Adsense where they just destroy someone's business immediately with no explanation and no appeal process. I would hope Solavei would not act like that. I know in one case someone I know was advertising on Adwords and they told them to stop, and she did, and that was that.

CoachManny

I wanted to follow up on this.

Solavei is definitely stepping up their game on violators.

I am hearing it more and more.

Hope this helps,

Manny

seosoldier

For those interested in getting in, Solavei just extended their "get one month free and a free sim card" campaign through November (2012)!
They have also extended it to us original members, that if we get 3 people to join we get a free month as well as our bonus PLUS our $20/month per "trio"!

This shows they are working with their members to help grow their business and is a very good sign.

While Solavei is growing very fast, it is still in its infancy so there is MUCH room to grow with it! Right now they've been in business only one month and have around 50k subscribers. But their goal - which I believe they are likely to reach once people hear about how good the service is, and they begin to get name recognition - is to get millions. So our piece of that pie could be huge. Which is why now is the time to get in and get started. If you have any questions at all PM me.

michaelpotter

Are they planning to launch in the UK?

Christian C

Michael...

Yes, Solavei is def. planning on expanding to other territories besides the US, I would say within next year. They are already rapidly developing and putting into motion international calling and international texting. There are a lot of more opportunities coming forth as quick as possible. I think next year will bring that progress. So for that reason I recommend others who want to get in to do it asap.

Also, don't forget the Christmas season will soon be upon us, so whether it's Solavei or any other good offer that you want to make money with, products, etc. Now is the time to take action. Don't wait 'til it's too late and not make any money during the busiest shopping time of the year. All the best.

Bibi goldstein

Sorry my ignorance, but solavei is a phone company? like verizon, at &t ? I signed to a mlm which you only download an application which is free on your cell phone and you start making money from your phone calls, sms. Not involving any sales.

CoachManny

You are far from ignorant buddy! Solavei is a new company that just launched in September. It is not a phone company at all. It is a partnered MVNO for T-Mobile. Short but sweet explanation is that Solavei is a better way to get mobile service at a great price - plus the opportunity to earn when you share.

I hope this helps.

Manny

seosoldier

Solavei is a mobile service that costs $49 a month for unlimited 4G talk/text/data. OR you can get it free by sharing it with 3 people and they share it with 3 each... or you share it with 9. There is no limit on how much you can make; they'll pay you $20 per month, per "trio" of 3 people you sign up plus one level down from you (i.e; the people you sign up get others to join).

Service quality depends on where you live/work. Solavei has a page where you can check service in your area before joining up. My service is fantastic! Never had one problem so far and my internet is quick and it's nice to know I can text all I want and surf the net without worrying about getting a bigger phone bill. Granted I'm biased but I wouldn't lie about it, my service is fantastic.
If you have any questions feel free to pm me.

By the way, can anyone explain to me why sometimes when I come to this site my signature does not show up and other times it does??

lianecarmi

Yeah - after I joined some guy phone blasted me trying to sell his phone MLM. The biggest difference I see is the cost - Solavei doesn't bloat their prices to turn themselves into an MLM, they just do away with advertising.

I agree - to some extent. Yeah, it definitely helps to be good at network marketing, and to have a team already in place...but with the right angle you can also make this into a simple affiliate business (think of all the Sprint / AT&T / Verizon ads that you see every single day on the web).


True. Which is why Solavei now has SIM cards you can get in advance, to set people up on the spot. Personally, my most successful strategy thus far has been reaching out to affiliates who already know how to set up campaigns (note, affiliates, not network marketers).

To answer the OP...
1) yes
2) yes
3) yes

Yeah, a good downline definitely helps. The nice thing about this is that you can make money without a downline if you just set up the right types of campaigns. In other words, you can be a network marketer and make this work, and have a team working for you - or you can be an affiliate, and make this work solo.

As for me - I'm doing a combination. I've got a team of affiliates who I support....plus a bunch of people just looking for cheap phone service.

seosoldier

I am involved in another MLM business and I have no downline at all - 1 person actually who has not made 1 sale! - and yet I am averaging $1700 a month in sales. I just wanted to add that because not ALL MLM's require you to get in early or have a big downline. If it's a good product with a fair commission you can make good money just on sales.

Do I WISH I had a nice downline? Yes. I've just never figured out how to get people to sign up under me. With Solavei I've at least got a start on that, but I've been "1 away" from trio now for over a month. I think (hope anyway!) that Solavei will take off once it gets more well known.

Right now people are skeptical because it seems too good of a deal, and then you've got people with iphones who don't want to lose their 4g speed, and people in contracts who don't want to switch from what they perceive as a good deal and good service, to something unknown to them. So it's not a super easy sale right now. But I think in the near future it will get easier as more and more people know someone who has it and knows it's a real deal, with good service.

My service is fantastic! But it's hard to convince people you're not just blowing smoke...

TrafficBot

Here is a very enlightening video I found on youtube. The first 7 minutes discuss the potential pitfalls of Solavei:


Like any other MLM, be sure to avoid those shiny bright objects or you will end up like a deer in the headlights.

CoachManny

OK I'll bite!

Traffic Bot that is the funniest and most ridiculous video I think I've ever seen! He even sounds like a robot. Hahahaha!

And it's very unprofessional the route that person takes. Obviously they feel threatened and have to come out with a video to try and keep reps away. Again very unprofessional.

This person is griping about the most ridiculous things. So the company offers an inexpensive way to get service to start and monthly is inexpensive. Should the company take Vitel's wireless route and rip people off? Should Solavei charge $99 a month? NO FRIGGING WAY!!!! Vitel wireless charges you way too much to be a part of it. They are charging $99 for the same stuff you can get elsewhere for 75% less on average. that is straight ripoff.

Why do they charge $99 for something they call wireless? Does that make any sense at all?

LOL I still can't get over how some would bash others because they feel threatened.

I Am Solavei, I am proud to be a part of Solavei, I love Solavei and it makes all the sense in the world to me.

I have been a part of too many network marketing companies and this has been the easiest sell ever. $49/mo for unlimited text, data, and voice. Who can compete with that?

LOL! I'm still cracking up at this unprofessional dude

Thanks for the laugh,

Manny

CoachManny

Don't convince people. There are so many people out there it's crazy. Don't waste time with them.

They either get it or they don't.

If you want to just sell service then start a kiosk and you can sell service everyday.

If you want to make big money then look for like minded people like you. They are everywhere.

There is a reason the company is over 77,000 strong and have only launched just 8 weeks ago. That is incredible. I have people calling me up because they see this is a no-brainer. Just signed someone up who downgraded his att plan to the lowest monthly and put his service on flip phone and signed up with Solavei and using his iPhone.

Another T-Mobile member called me yesterday and going to sign up.

This is a no-brainer man. Just keep plugging away and don't focus on convincing people. Don't waste your energy. Not worth it.

See you at the top,

Manny

angshuy2k

This is really interesting to how everyone is getting up. I have done SEO work for various members from Solavei affiliate programe and some with their own landing page and some with their youtube video as well. It will really nice to see how everyone is getting on.

When I did seo it was around Mid september. Hope everyone is getting enough exposure.

I will be watching to everyones success story as an external.

In the mean time happy to see some people are already earning.

Best wishes to all,
Swrajit

CoachManny

If I can only figure out how to get my capture page to page 1...I would be one happy camper

Manny

angshuy2k

that is tough, I would purely suggest rather than waiting for it to be on page 1, if we could actually engage potential customers to your downline.
What I meant by that is:

tweet about your services
facebook and share,
use pinterest
.............. and many more,
because search engines crowed are getting a little bit harder day by day due to competition but if we can engage potential customers from various sources then surely you can make money.

Best wishes,
Swrajit

seosoldier

Manny, I didn't mean convince them in the sense of arguing with them or pleading etc. I meant convince them just in the sense of having web pages etc out there and getting them to bite. Not sure what method you're using but I'm just not getting a lot of bites.

I agree it's a no brainer. It just seems like people aren't "flocking to it" - so far - the way I thought they would. To me it is an easy choice.

CoachManny

Those are the ways I have used that have helped my business grow. I guess FB of the 3 have helped. Using the others but no referrals from it.

My sponsor is having great success and he is on first page of google.

As the company is growing (lightspeed) more and more will be on first page so I will say now...you just gave some great advice!

Manny

CoachManny

Gotcha!

What is working for me is friends and family and facebook and my sponsor.

Only cold market sign up was due to my sponsor.

Manny

NashvilleWarrior

My opinion is that the main problem with this company is a thing called breakage.


Someone in this thread said they had only 2 sign ups. Imagine how many of the 77k are just one shy of getting their trio to collect $20. If only 1% percent does not have a trio (and I think this is an extremely conservative number) then there are 7000 people from whom the company is collecting $343k per month and the company is not paying a penny in commissions.

But let's be honest, statistics show that the average person does not recruit more than two (hmmm, wonder why the "get 3 and..." is used by a lot of companies). So if we assume a higher number of reps do not have a trio and still use a conservative number, like maybe 15%, then you are talking about 11,550 subscribers without a trio = $565,950. And this is jus the subscribers without their trio, just double that up for 2 subscribers under each one of those and you will see how much more the company is raking in every month.


And that is just the tip of the iceberg on the comp plan. What about the fact the company does not pay you for the phone and sim card sales. I tell you, I dug deeper and ran models and it just did not add up to me. Once people that get their service realize this comp plan is not all it was touted to be they will stop trying to recruit. They may still keep the service because they have a very good price point. Which in turn results in the company having a huge customer base that markets the company for them virtually for pennys on the dollar and in return the customer gets nothing. Whoever designed their comp plan knew what they were doing.

I know I will get a lot of heat from the "I am Solavei" crowd. Let the rebuttals begin.

CoachManny

No heat here my friend.

If a person only enrolls 2 people they are not going for the business side of this. They are enrolling a family and/or friend. It's that simple.

I've been in enough network marketing companies to say...I've never seen anything so easy to promote and grow. If a person wants the business there is no reason they are not able to. Unless it's just a hobby to them. Even then over time they will find 3.

This is too simple to only enroll 2 and no more.

Thru the end of December the company is offering a FREE phone and FREE month of service. Seriously...if a person is not enrolling others they are not trying.

I don't need a percent from the sale of phones. I didn't join to sell phones. That means nothing to me nor has the thought crossed my mind. 75% of people are bringing their own phone

Manny

The General Public

I am not an MLM hater and am actually pretty successful in my own MLM team, which is where the majority of my income comes from.

Look into the background of Solavei's ownership...not exactly sparkling.