Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...??

ChrisRuane · 03-25-2009, 01:06 PM

Well it has certainly been a popular offer. There is no way Mike could offer free support to that many people. In fact, if he turned up at your house and personally sorted it out for you, someone, somewhere would have something else to moan about!

ronline · 03-25-2009, 01:22 PM

Ok, just incase one of the BM staff are still checking this thread, Mike, you mentioned being kind enough to allow a download link for very nice and grateful people/persons/ (person?)

I have purchased, can you tell me which hoops I need to jump through to get a link please?

Extenuating circumstances mean I have to ask...

Would be very much appreciated if this was possible.

AJ Silvers · 03-25-2009, 01:29 PM

Watching Mike's launch (or any of the big launches) is the closest thing I think you can get to a free lunch in the IM World.

You don't need to be a genius to work out how simple yet effective his strategy is.

1. Create a good product that solves a problem
2. Get a bunch of JV partners on board
3. Pre-release teaser content and case studies
4. Make the offer the best you can
5. Launch it

I agree with the comments about testing and as for server load balancing, on the back of an expected million dollar launch surely it is possible to throw a few grand at a highly available data centre cluster - if only for the first week when you know demand is going to spike.

Maybe the feeding frenzy of 100,000 people hitting refresh is part of the plan, me I'd be very happy if I got 5000 happy customers and little or no flames

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jasondinner · 03-25-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Petersen

Can we use our own mini-site design templates with this software? Is it similar concept to RAP where we can add tokens so we can use whatever HTML site we want on not a default?

Yes!!

You can even use PLR (Private Label Rights) or MRR (Master Resale Rights) products with
the Butterfly script.

In fact, I highly recommend you do EXACTLY that if you don't have your own product.

How much digital dust do you have stored away on your hard drive?

You can churn out butterfly sites if you want to.

You don't even need to create the content if you're not ready for that yet.

REHughes · 03-25-2009, 02:13 PM

Robert here again,

Ok! I finally got mine. had to go back and reorder, but it was well worth the effort.

I can't commend Mike enough for how he has handled this whole situation. I was watching as the flames were burning yesterday morn'

, and I gotta say, HE KEPT HIS CLASS! (KUDOS, MIKE! Thank you!) No one would listen to his instructions-IE: please don't try to order now--- then another whole horde would come on screen complaining their order wasn't going through! Man, I think I would probably have just signed off and went home and said forget it. But, Mike ain't me, and he didn't, and I'm GRATEFUL. Just hoping to someday get to actually work beside him and others of his caliber.

But, until then, I will sit happily here at home and build my own little BUTTERFLY SITES

with my new FREE BFM 2.0! Yipee!

Robert

James Blair · 03-25-2009, 03:00 PM

You know, I normally stay out of rants and such, but you guys should really quit bashing Mike. This guy is basically giving away butterfly marketing, and more importantly, the BFM Script software. I mean, it's free besides the shipping and handling and he was even very forthcoming about being automatically enrolled in his newsletter, which, by the way is so freaking cheap it is silly. Like 39 bucks a month. If that isn't value, frankly, I just don't know what you guys perceive value to be. The world isn't just going to be handed to you on some silver platter so forget it.

This is a great deal Mike and I for one very much appreciate it. I can't wait to put it to use and see what it can do for me.

Oh and FYI guys, he even says that you can order BFM 2.0 for just the shipping charge, and cancel the newsletter membership and never even be charged. A 2000 dollar powerhouse tool for 29 bucks shipping. NO BRAINER.

Anyway, sorry for that outburst I meant no harm... Just my opinion.

Thanks guys,

James B.

jasondinner · 03-25-2009, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steadyon

I was amazed and disappointed that Mike hasn't actually paid me to try his product.

Sheesh....

He says he is giving it away for free but he isn't.

Firstly, I have to pay postage. What an absolute joke!!!

Then none of his guys will install it for free. Bad service hey?

They won't even build me a website nor make any sales for me! I just can't believe the lack of care.

Finally, to top it all off, I PERSONALLY have to watch the videos and actually DO some work MYSELF. I think this is completely over the top.

I thought they were going to move the free line all the way to my bank account!!!

Just wait til you find out he won't promote it for you and won't tell his top affiliates
to promote it to.

So much for moving the free line

Steadyon · 03-25-2009, 04:08 PM

Well that's just outrageous

Melford Bibens · 03-25-2009, 04:16 PM

I thought I missed it because everytime I ordered I got kicked out, but low and behold 10 minutes later I get an email saying it's on it's way.

God I hope I only get billed once for the shipping....

It's funny to me that these multi-millionaire web dude have launch problems, I would think that they'd have there hosting down to a science!

Hope it lives up to the hype.

PeteNY · 03-25-2009, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupps

The biggest problem I had is not the server problems - that's a given. I am not sure why anyone would think they can handle that type of load on their servers without problems - they should have known better.

No the real problem was that the ordering form did not work. There was a flaw in the script - all that should have been checked out to work ahead of time.

I think the ordering form problem was a symptom of the server overload. The order form script couldn't access the database to even pull up the list of states or other functions it needed to complete it's task. Something he couldn't test for, and didn't anticipate.

dmag1 · 03-25-2009, 04:48 PM

Maybe somebody can chime in and comment on the actual product and
WHY it is supposedly so good. I've only just scratched the surface on it but my initial observation is that:

1. It is a relatively low grade web site creator, in terms of aesthetics (mediocre site tools)

2. The system behind it is just really a membersite site script, and not as robust as any others I've seen.

3. It does offer easy to use OTO, upsells, etc.

Aside from the DVDs with his marketing wisdom (unquestionable value), what makes the actual system so special? Seems none of the individual components are unique or top notch by themselves.

Let's get away from the normal rants and ridiculing one another, and ask a real question.

As far as the product itself, what's the big deal?

I'm just not seeing anything that can't be done better with existing tools.

Just sayin...

DEERFARMER · 03-25-2009, 04:56 PM

Mike suggest that we all get a merchant account. If we have a paypal account do we really need a merchant account??????

PeteNY · 03-25-2009, 05:34 PM

Can anyone tell me what the 7 Figure Zone is? I checked the box for it in my rush to try to order Butterfly Marketing. Will I be charged in the future for this part?

Thanks

jamsferguson · 03-25-2009, 05:41 PM

I got the email reciept but I haven't checked my CC yet- I figured I was OK now you guys have got me worried.
Jim

Rupps · 03-25-2009, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteNY

I think the ordering form problem was a symptom of the server overload. The order form script couldn't access the database to even pull up the list of states or other functions it needed to complete it's task. Something he couldn't test for, and didn't anticipate.

That could be it. During the Ustream event it sounded like a problem with people from certain countries. I was getting the impression that the drop-down box was not filling in for those people which made it sound like a simple programming error.

Rupps · 03-25-2009, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEERFARMER

Mike suggest that we all get a merchant account. If we have a paypal account do we really need a merchant account??????

Well I don't have it yet so I can't comment on all of it, but the OTO part requires a merchant account and authorize.net and is only good for people in the US

Rupps · 03-25-2009, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamsferguson

I got the email reciept but I haven't checked my CC yet- I figured I was OK now you guys have got me worried.
Jim

I got an email receipt and a confirmation email. Once confirmed I was able to access the site and create a login. So look for the confirmation email and follow the steps to create your account and be prepared for a bunch of OTO's

stevenh512 · 03-25-2009, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droopy Dawg

I have so much other stuff on my plate now... I wouldn't get to look at the script for a while.

Exactly. The server meltdown and some of the support issues that came afterwards gave me time to think about it, and I realized I have a few other projects I should put my time and money into and BFM probably wouldn't help with those (well, maybe one of them, but it wouldn't take me long to write a script that gives me a few of the more "basic" features I would have needed from BFM). I've seen the script in action and I think it's absolute genius, like I've already said I would have loved to get my hands on it, but realistically I don't need it right now and I had other things that ended up taking priority.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droopy Dawg

The server issues didn't bother me... the more I think about it it may have been a marketing ploy by Mike... he may have pulled the plug on his server for a couple hours... hey its just my hunch I'm not pointing any fingers.

It's funny that Mike did make a comment (jokingly, I presume) on Twitter several days before the launch about "programming the server to crash" lol.. but that's not to say the crash was intentional, it could have very well been true that the server was simply overloaded and came to a halt. Of course I also saw a comment in the ustream chat that suggested it might have been intentional, someone said "You are now witnessing Mass Control."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droopy Dawg

I'm not bothered by paying for support. I've been a network admninistrator and webdesigner for almost 10 years now... I understand the support aspect, and why you must pay for help.

I honestly doubt that anyone will need to pay the $300 for support. The people getting it "free" do still get access to the private forum where there are members who have been using the script since the original launch, I'm sure most of those people are quite familiar with installing and customizing it, so I think it shouldn't be too hard for anyone to find "third-party" support either free or for a lot less than $300.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupps

Well I don't have it yet so I can't comment on all of it, but the OTO part requires a merchant account and authorize.net and is only good for people in the US

Right and wrong.. lol

BFM has always had support for OTOs regardless of your payment processor (if you read the manuscript you'll see that it's an integral part of the whole "system"), and as far as I know that hasn't changed with 2.0. What you need Authorize.net for is the new "one-click OTO" technology Mike has included in the new version.

PeteNY · 03-25-2009, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamsferguson

I got the email reciept but I haven't checked my CC yet- I figured I was OK now you guys have got me worried.
Jim

I just went through the same thing. I got an email yesterday saying it will be shipped in 10-14 days. Called my credit card company an hour ago and nothing was charged. So, I ordered again just now. Now, the order page says I have to wait for the new ones since the 5000 sold out. All well.

If I were you, I'd call your credit card company and order again.

Gary Simpson · 03-25-2009, 07:11 PM

Gee, I haven't posted here for years, mainly because of the whingeing and moaning and criticism and attack dog mentality of so many people who come here to complain and criticise about everything and everyone. However, I saw a link at John Thornhill's blog and was interested to see if anything had changed.

Sure doesn't look like it!

I watched Mike Filsaime's BM2.0 launch unfold at the prescribed time like 1000's of others. Sure, he had problems. Yes his servers and payment systems became overloaded. Yes, it was frustrating.

But to see the anger and animosity of some people in the live feed was, as usual, really disappointing. Then I heard Mike mumble something about how he was gonna ruin his day by coming to the Warrior Forum to read what people would be saying about him, or words to that effect.

I think Dean Holland summed it up pretty well when he said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dean_holland

O M G !

"Some of you have moaned about the no support issue !! Heck what you expecting.... "Here you go sir use my toilet, can I wipe your ar for you ?" You know what sorry for being like that but it makes me mad, you have a $2000 package free !!!!! I am not techie in any way, Im guessing it wont cost mega bucks to outsource the set up of this thing so get over it peeps !"

Dean

Now, I'm not saying that EVERY person here is tarred with the same brush but...

... from the comments made, I think it gives a pretty darn good demarkation line between those who have a mentality of success versus those who are going to struggle big time with being successful at anything. Sorry to say this you negative ones but what you sow is what you will reap.

Mike Filsaime was trying to do something good for people with his launch. YES he IS a marketer. Yes he wants to make money too. But seriously, all you people whingeing about having to pay freight on a FREE product... for God's sake! And that is not to mention even that these units actually COST money to produce in the first place. If you bothered to look you would have seen all those boxes piled up in one of the pictures. They are PHYSICAL things. Physical things cost money to send. And don't forget the countless hours of research and development that goes into these products.

Yes, you have to pay for tech support. So what? If you don't want to do that then go figure it out yourself. It is a CHOICE. If you don't want the monthly newsletter then cancel it. That's a choice too.

OK, that will probably upset the attack dogs again but too bad. All I'm asking is why can't you look on the bright side of things instead of focussing on the dark side all the time? You might find that things will get a whole lot easier for you if you do that. Go and read Napoleon Hill's "Think and Grow Rich," or something.

superbiz · 03-25-2009, 09:38 PM

I ordered BM2 and the order went thru without a hitch. I did order it around 5.00pm yesterday. At 1.00pm EST yesterday, the site was down.

For all the guys worrying abt tech support and stuff... I suggest you order thru John Thornhill's affiliate link. He has a bonus offer which will take you thru getting your butterfly marketing site up and running.

Those who are finding the price high... I would say this...a decent functional script without bugs would cost around $100 or more. Of course BM2 is not going to have all the bells and whistles like the fantasos software ...also the design and layout is not tht grt too...but then the price difference between the two is at least over a thousand dollars.

There is a market demand for a good,functional, sales & affiliate management system at a cheap price. Looking around right now at the few available choices, I think this is a good deal for around 30 bucks.

So what I suggest to those who are planning to sell something online...if you do not have a decent script yet, get this piece of software..and although I have an affiliate link..I'd suggest you buy thru John's link...

Chill....

Rolliesworld · 03-25-2009, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superbiz

For all the guys worrying abt tech support and stuff... I suggest you order thru John Thornhill's affiliate link. He has a bonus offer which will take you thru getting your butterfly marketing site up and running.

...

Can you please tell me what John's order link is please...?

7digital · 03-25-2009, 11:14 PM

I was so excited on Tuesday, that I had my credit card ready at work. So I went to try and order it online on my lunch break and our work computers didn't allow that site to come up. I thought bummer.

Then when I got home at 5pm the site was down. Then I tried at 7pm. I put all my information in and then got a " My SQL error ." However all my card info was entered so I said I wasn't going to order it again, but I made sure that I wrote down there customer support website, TheCustomerHelpDesk.com . I just submitted a support ticket and now I'm waiting for a reply. I guess I'll be lucky to get a response this week!

Oh well, if I get it great, if not then it wasn't meant to be!

jasondinner · 03-25-2009, 11:40 PM

The script does everything I want my website to do to make the most money possible.

You can build your list on the front end, and sell stuff on the back end.

And your members get an affiliate link inside of their account so they can grow
your site for you.

Since January 1st, just 3 of my butterfly sites added 4117 subscribers to my list on complete autopilot.

In the right hands, it can be a monster profit wise.

Read the old salespage and check out all the REAL RESULTS Testimonials.

Butterfly Marketing - By Mike Filsaime

That pretty much sums it all up.

Hope this helps

Jason

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmag1

Maybe somebody can chime in and comment on the actual product and
WHY it is supposedly so good. I've only just scratched the surface on it but my initial observation is that:

1. It is a relatively low grade web site creator, in terms of aesthetics (mediocre site tools)

2. The system behind it is just really a membersite site script, and not as robust as any others I've seen.

3. It does offer easy to use OTO, upsells, etc.

Aside from the DVDs with his marketing wisdom (unquestionable value), what makes the actual system so special? Seems none of the individual components are unique or top notch by themselves.

Let's get away from the normal rants and ridiculing one another, and ask a real question.

As far as the product itself, what's the big deal?

I'm just not seeing anything that can't be done better with existing tools.

Just sayin...

Izet Hasanov · 03-25-2009, 11:50 PM

Yes I got it! It was a smooth transaction for me. Heck, $29.95 is a pretty good deal for a product like this, I don't care what evryone else says about this. You can easily cancel the monthly magazine if want, so it doesn't get any better than that.

mitoshthewarrior · 03-25-2009, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmag1

Are you serious about this, $300 for any help?

Good grief.

The incredible hassle today because he won't pay for the right server to handle this kind of launch, and then to find out that it's not anywhere close to plug 'n' play -- with big buck tech support needed.

Don't think so.

Who needs a "free" product that will potentially cost a ton of money to get right?

Mike's a marketer and obviously a successful one, but he's not a software producer. I've seen a big review on this product -- a straight one -- and the guy said the software is difficult unless you know your stuff and can code in multiple formats like HTML, PHP, etc. Anybody else is going to get tagged for that $300 tech charge.

The question is, do you get hit for $300 once until it works, or $300 each time?

A real software company puts out plug 'n' play apps, or very close to it. Wordpress, Joomla, etc., are usable out of the box. This is the game Mike is in, making sites that sell.

Obviously, Joomla and WP don't offer the marketing stuff he's so good at.

Why can't there be one solution that's both easy and full of the features we need???

I would have rather paid for the right product, rather than get something that needs tech tweaks from the getgo.

Just another day in the IM world.

I have to agree with Mike here, you can't expect free support on a product he is giving away. I can't vouch for how easy to use it is as I haven't seen it myself, but but as Mike says, it is a business and support costs a lot of money. The only way to make money selling support is either charge by the hour/call or hope most people don't call for support. I just bought my parents each a new computer from HP, I put a 3 year support contract on each of them, which only cost $169. If even one thing happens you pretty much can consider they lost that $169 except for maybe a simple issue that can be solved in quick phone call.

Don't like the offer, don't use it.

xxxskyxxx · 03-26-2009, 12:09 AM

i tried it a couple times yesterday, it didnt work. good thing it's still available

RB · 03-26-2009, 12:18 AM

I think most people are just like me, the only way you learn how internet marketing usually works is by getting burned - if not monetarily it would be by not getting what you are promised. We are talking about a addictive disease here, much like substance abuse. This abuse comes from both ends, from yours and from the promoter.

I made another post about attending a conference that I was largely disappointed with. It seems we often have to take the bait hook, line, and sinker only to find out how much we already know.

At least you can get that much value out of the offer.

dave147 · 03-26-2009, 04:53 AM

finally got in using IE 7

Brad Lindsay · 03-26-2009, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEERFARMER

Mike suggest that we all get a merchant account. If we have a paypal account do we really need a merchant account??????

You don't need any additional payment accounts other than PayPal (as always make sure your PayPal account is verified etc.).

We've all heard the stories about getting shut down by PayPal. Even though you may have (and should have) pre-advised PayPal of your launch and anticipated volume of orders, it's wise to also have a back up account particularly if you expect to process a large number of transactions in a short time. This is especially so if your account's not used to seeing those volumes, such as during a new product launch.

The Butterfly Marketing Script 1.9x supports PayPal, ClickBank, 2Checkout and Authorize.net (I've not seen version 2.0 yet but I'm looking forward to receiving it).

Brad Lindsay · 03-26-2009, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmag1

Just a couple of observations from someone who had never knowingly encountered Butterfly Marketing until a couple of days ago.

I come out of Joomla and Wordpress environments where aesthetics count. The BFM sites I've now seen (probably 20 of them) while researching BFM aren't very pretty. No design awards for any of them. Not a one. Granted, they may make money in their niche and that's fine.

Maybe I could get a designer to spiff up whatever BFM generates, I don't know. Proprietary site making software generally comes up short on looks because either numbers guys or geeks run the show. They never spend money on beautifying the product. This is the case with Site Build-It, XSitepro, Semiologic, and BFM. Just the way it is.

Mine have to do both, make some money and look decent.

So BFM probably won't work for me.
.....

The Butterfly Marketing Script is "Template Driven", so you are pretty much free to make both the front end and the back end membership areas of your sites look anyway you want!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmag1

.....

The technical downside is that Mike is not a software guy, he's a marketer who went out and paid for a coder or coders to develop the system. More than one person has said that it's not an easy system to use, and a person needs some coding skills to pull it off.
.....

As you can imagine, Mike is a sharp, astute and highly driven guy (his success didn't just happen!). With regards to his background, as can be seen in his Bio, he gained an education in the New York Institute of Technology in Computer Science and Business Administration.

Mike actually has a number of full time programmers on his staff providing software development and maintenance as well as his own design team.

As with anything new and packed with features, there is a learning curve. I don't agree however that you 'need coding skills to pull it off'. The membership area has a number of videos that walks you through the script installation and building your site.

Hope this helps.

superbiz · 03-26-2009, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rolliesworld

Can you please tell me what John's order link is please...?

sure...the link is:

Mike Filsaime's ButterflyMarketing.com

As of posting the this , the site is still available. Hope this helps.

Justin Mandel · 03-26-2009, 09:11 PM

You do need the Authorize.net account to have the upsells work for you with BM.

Is there any other processing companies that the script will work with?

Floyd Fisher · 03-26-2009, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ankur sharma

I tried for an hour , there were so many glitches. I think th whole crash thing is more hype. "Our servers got crashed" how cool is that? I filled all the payment page , then nothing in the next page. I did receive the email . But when i try to login , it said we couldnt find your username in our database.

P.S - This offer is for whole software for shipping cost. Am i right? If i can get software for $39 , i'll be happy.

Just forward a copy of your receipt to Mike's helpdesk, and have them create an account for you.

stevenh512 · 03-26-2009, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Mandel

You do need the Authorize.net account to have the upsells work for you with BM.

Is there any other processing companies that the script will work with?

From what I've seen and heard, it will support every payment processor the original BM script supported. Upsells will work exactly the same as they always did, with one exception. You'll need Authorize.net for the one-click upsells. That doesn't mean you can't still handle your upsells/OTOs with Paypal or Clickbank, it just means that if you handle them that way they'll work the way they always have and you won't be able to use them as one-click upsells.

The requirement to use Authorize.net for the one-click upsells is a technical limitation of the other payment processors, not the script. Authorize.net keeps a "payment profile" when you make your payment, so the one-click works by telling the payment gateway to bill that same profile without having to store your credit card info or force you to enter it again.

Floyd Fisher · 03-26-2009, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikefilsaime

2044 orders made it. Many people saved the order page and ordered...so we will make the page live in a few hours so more can buy..

Thanks
Mike

PS - we will produce more than 5000 units if needed
be since many had issues ordering. We will stay open
until Thursday to take orders, so everyone that orders
will get one if that is what I have to do.

Check your PM box. I just put an urgent message for your eyes only in there. It might save you some grief down the road.

Lee McIntyre · 03-27-2009, 05:06 AM

I'm personally boggled by some of the responses here.

There's a lot in "guru land" that I often find distasteful, but some of the posts here leave me worried for a lot of people.

If you want the script it seems you have two choices.

1. Buy the thing for $1997
2. Pay a $30 shipping charge and take a continuity trial

I know which of those options I would take (and have taken via John Thornhill's link of course)

Mike is simply making an offer and the terms of this are very clear. It's then our choice whether to accept it or decline it.

Personally I think it's a complete no brainer.

Lee McIntyre

Ross Kenny · 03-27-2009, 05:28 AM

I totally agree Lee. It was a total no brainer and I was lucky enough to get it through John Thornhill's link. He offered a great bonus!!!

As for the tech support I'm sure John will be there to help as he's set up a few successful Butterfly sites already...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee McIntyre

I'm personally boggled by some of the responses here.

There's a lot in "guru land" that I often find distasteful, but some of the posts here leave me worried for a lot of people.

If you want the script it seems you have two choices.

1. Buy the thing for $1997
2. Pay a $30 shipping charge and take a continuity trial

I know which of those options I would take (and have taken via John Thornhill's link of course)

Mike is simply making an offer and the terms of this are very clear. It's then our choice whether to accept it or decline it.

Personally I think it's a complete no brainer.

Lee McIntyre

FlightGuy · 03-27-2009, 05:43 AM

MIKE IS A NINJA.

that is all,
john dennis.

ankur sharma · 03-27-2009, 02:09 PM

Just purchased. i am so happy. Am i dreaming by the way? I just cant believe that someone can send you whole software for free. Can anyone here confirm that i am not dreaming and yes Mike is sending the full software?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Marc43 · 03-27-2009, 02:40 PM

Hi Everybody, Got the same problem here I tried 4times, across 2 days something with the buying fields did not work properly ended up giving up..

I wanted in because got some good ideas from Mike in the past with a great ROI, but this time I have to say that the buy process was not smooth at all unfortunately a loose-loose I really wanted to try the new BM2.0...

----------------Update finally got it thanks guys Marc------

ankur sharma · 03-27-2009, 03:09 PM

I also faced one problem. I wasnt able to write in "state" field. Then i went back , and selected country US and then changed it to my own country. It was allright after that. If it is working for 10k other people. It should work for you also. Try different browser like chrome and i hope you get your product.

By the way , how many days it will take for international folks?

ankur sharma · 03-27-2009, 03:52 PM

By the way , i love whiners. They keep the competition low

Alton Hargrave · 03-27-2009, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ankur sharma

well , those who got only paypal , they can order VCC. I just purchased my package by using vcc. So all well. PM me if you want to know where to get VCC .

I am just curious. What is a VCC? It is short for Virtual Credit Card or Very Cool Credit? or what.

I bought BM2 too. I think the number of whiners was a little overstated. Maybe a few whiners, but thousands of satisfied customers. At least, most of us are learning how to spell whiner. Still a few that spell it whinger? LOL

Justin Mandel · 03-27-2009, 06:16 PM

Another BM question...

Will BM work with Getrepsonse? There's no doubt it integrates with Aweber

reapr · 03-29-2009, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasondinner

Just wait til you find out he won't promote it for you and won't tell his top affiliates
to promote it to.

So much for moving the free line

Dang and I thought I would have a lifetime web designer with top SEO skills at my disposal thrown in with the deal ... might even be able to get them to cook me breakfast in bed, do the laundry and empty the trash.

All funning aside it is a good deal.

George Montagu Brown · 03-29-2009, 05:46 PM

I sure did

Looks like a great product, am very excited to get my hands on it!

Although I've heard it's quite hard to get set up... PM me if anyone knows a good tech guy!

MikeAmbrosio · 03-29-2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuruCreation

Did you guys not read the fine print?

he Entire Butterfly Marketing Home Study Course with Software is being given away for free to 5000 people that pay the s&h of $29.95 US and Canada (+$10 all other countries.) just for trying out our monthly newsletter, risk free, for 30 days. You may cancel anytime prior to billing or later and never be billed. Not one dime. Or do nothing and be conveniently billed our monthly rate of $39.95 + s&h and we will send you our quality newsletter every month which you can cancel by email, phone, or help desk, at anytime and never be billed. Period. See order page for details.

I don't care who the heck Mike is... He made too many copies to begin with, they didn't sell out. So the only way to get rid of them was to charge people shipping and handling.

I don't use his tactics, they are good, but I use my own. No list, no nothing.

Keep it real next time..

I subscribed to 6 so-called gurus, and all on the same day they all sent me the butterfly marketing email with their affiliate link...ha ha ha

LOSERS!

Ah, another person who thinks they have the "inside scoop"...

This was a planned launch. The plan was for 5,000 - so that's how many Mike had made.

He had an additional 5,000 made after the server crash when he realized the demand. It is more cost effective to have them made in a bulk of 5,000, hence the reason he orders 5,000 at a time.

The sale will stay open until the remaining units sell out.

End of story.

Believe, don't. You're call. But at least now you have the REAL inside scoop.

Mike

MikeAmbrosio · 03-29-2009, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuruCreation

That's exactly what he wanted you to think...

Last Word

Um, I sat next to him during the launch.

And I was there during the planning.

And I set up the butterfly site.

And I did much of the site testing.

And I ...

You get the picture.

"Last word"

Floyd Fisher · 03-29-2009, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmag1

Maybe somebody can chime in and comment on the actual product and
WHY it is supposedly so good. I've only just scratched the surface on it but my initial observation is that:

1. It is a relatively low grade web site creator, in terms of aesthetics (mediocre site tools)

2. The system behind it is just really a membersite site script, and not as robust as any others I've seen.

3. It does offer easy to use OTO, upsells, etc.

Aside from the DVDs with his marketing wisdom (unquestionable value), what makes the actual system so special? Seems none of the individual components are unique or top notch by themselves.

Let's get away from the normal rants and ridiculing one another, and ask a real question.

As far as the product itself, what's the big deal?

I'm just not seeing anything that can't be done better with existing tools.

Just sayin...

You just answered your own question.

For $30 bucks...who cares if the script actually works or not? I'm getting a full blown marketing seminar in my living room, and Mike Filesame is the speaker.

03-25-2009, 01:06 PM	#101
ChrisRuane Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? Well it has certainly been a popular offer. There is no way Mike could offer free support to that many people. In fact, if he turned up at your house and personally sorted it out for you, someone, somewhere would have something else to moan about!
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03-25-2009, 01:22 PM	#102
ronline Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? Ok, just incase one of the BM staff are still checking this thread, Mike, you mentioned being kind enough to allow a download link for very nice and grateful people/persons/ (person?) I have purchased, can you tell me which hoops I need to jump through to get a link please? Extenuating circumstances mean I have to ask... Would be very much appreciated if this was possible.

03-25-2009, 01:29 PM	#103
AJ Silvers Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 716 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 116 Thanked 128 Times in 95 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? Watching Mike's launch (or any of the big launches) is the closest thing I think you can get to a free lunch in the IM World. You don't need to be a genius to work out how simple yet effective his strategy is. 1. Create a good product that solves a problem 2. Get a bunch of JV partners on board 3. Pre-release teaser content and case studies 4. Make the offer the best you can 5. Launch it I agree with the comments about testing and as for server load balancing, on the back of an expected million dollar launch surely it is possible to throw a few grand at a highly available data centre cluster - if only for the first week when you know demand is going to spike. Maybe the feeding frenzy of 100,000 people hitting refresh is part of the plan, me I'd be very happy if I got 5000 happy customers and little or no flames ]
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03-25-2009, 02:13 PM	#105
REHughes Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North Ga., USA Posts: 83 Thanks: 39 Thanked 34 Times in 20 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? Robert here again, Ok! I finally got mine. had to go back and reorder, but it was well worth the effort. I can't commend Mike enough for how he has handled this whole situation. I was watching as the flames were burning yesterday morn', and I gotta say, HE KEPT HIS CLASS! (KUDOS, MIKE! Thank you!) No one would listen to his instructions-IE: please don't try to order now--- then another whole horde would come on screen complaining their order wasn't going through! Man, I think I would probably have just signed off and went home and said forget it. But, Mike ain't me, and he didn't, and I'm GRATEFUL. Just hoping to someday get to actually work beside him and others of his caliber. But, until then, I will sit happily here at home and build my own little BUTTERFLY SITES with my new FREE BFM 2.0! Yipee! Robert

03-25-2009, 03:00 PM	#106
James Blair Common Sense Marketing War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 224 Thanks: 39 Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? You know, I normally stay out of rants and such, but you guys should really quit bashing Mike. This guy is basically giving away butterfly marketing, and more importantly, the BFM Script software. I mean, it's free besides the shipping and handling and he was even very forthcoming about being automatically enrolled in his newsletter, which, by the way is so freaking cheap it is silly. Like 39 bucks a month. If that isn't value, frankly, I just don't know what you guys perceive value to be. The world isn't just going to be handed to you on some silver platter so forget it. This is a great deal Mike and I for one very much appreciate it. I can't wait to put it to use and see what it can do for me. Oh and FYI guys, he even says that you can order BFM 2.0 for just the shipping charge, and cancel the newsletter membership and never even be charged. A 2000 dollar powerhouse tool for 29 bucks shipping. NO BRAINER. Anyway, sorry for that outburst I meant no harm... Just my opinion. Thanks guys, James B.
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03-25-2009, 04:08 PM	#108
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03-25-2009, 04:16 PM	#109
Melford Bibens HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sarasota FL... A.K.A. Paradise Posts: 170 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? I thought I missed it because everytime I ordered I got kicked out, but low and behold 10 minutes later I get an email saying it's on it's way. God I hope I only get billed once for the shipping.... It's funny to me that these multi-millionaire web dude have launch problems, I would think that they'd have there hosting down to a science! Hope it lives up to the hype.
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03-25-2009, 04:48 PM	#111
dmag1 Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? Maybe somebody can chime in and comment on the actual product and WHY it is supposedly so good. I've only just scratched the surface on it but my initial observation is that: 1. It is a relatively low grade web site creator, in terms of aesthetics (mediocre site tools) 2. The system behind it is just really a membersite site script, and not as robust as any others I've seen. 3. It does offer easy to use OTO, upsells, etc. Aside from the DVDs with his marketing wisdom (unquestionable value), what makes the actual system so special? Seems none of the individual components are unique or top notch by themselves. Let's get away from the normal rants and ridiculing one another, and ask a real question. As far as the product itself, what's the big deal? I'm just not seeing anything that can't be done better with existing tools. Just sayin...

03-25-2009, 04:56 PM	#112
DEERFARMER Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? Mike suggest that we all get a merchant account. If we have a paypal account do we really need a merchant account??????

03-25-2009, 05:34 PM	#113
PeteNY HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: New York Posts: 117 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? Can anyone tell me what the 7 Figure Zone is? I checked the box for it in my rush to try to order Butterfly Marketing. Will I be charged in the future for this part? Thanks

03-25-2009, 05:41 PM	#114
jamsferguson Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 53 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? I got the email reciept but I haven't checked my CC yet- I figured I was OK now you guys have got me worried. Jim

03-25-2009, 09:38 PM	#121
superbiz HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St.Louis, USA Posts: 170 Thanks: 26 Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? I ordered BM2 and the order went thru without a hitch. I did order it around 5.00pm yesterday. At 1.00pm EST yesterday, the site was down. For all the guys worrying abt tech support and stuff... I suggest you order thru John Thornhill's affiliate link. He has a bonus offer which will take you thru getting your butterfly marketing site up and running. Those who are finding the price high... I would say this...a decent functional script without bugs would cost around $100 or more. Of course BM2 is not going to have all the bells and whistles like the fantasos software ...also the design and layout is not tht grt too...but then the price difference between the two is at least over a thousand dollars. There is a market demand for a good,functional, sales & affiliate management system at a cheap price. Looking around right now at the few available choices, I think this is a good deal for around 30 bucks. So what I suggest to those who are planning to sell something online...if you do not have a decent script yet, get this piece of software..and although I have an affiliate link..I'd suggest you buy thru John's link... Chill....

03-25-2009, 11:14 PM	#123
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03-25-2009, 11:50 PM	#125
Izet Hasanov Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 38 Thanks: 17 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? Yes I got it! It was a smooth transaction for me. Heck, $29.95 is a pretty good deal for a product like this, I don't care what evryone else says about this. You can easily cancel the monthly magazine if want, so it doesn't get any better than that.

03-26-2009, 12:09 AM	#127
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03-26-2009, 12:18 AM	#128
RB Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 97 Thanks: 3 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? I think most people are just like me, the only way you learn how internet marketing usually works is by getting burned - if not monetarily it would be by not getting what you are promised. We are talking about a addictive disease here, much like substance abuse. This abuse comes from both ends, from yours and from the promoter. I made another post about attending a conference that I was largely disappointed with. It seems we often have to take the bait hook, line, and sinker only to find out how much we already know. At least you can get that much value out of the offer.

03-26-2009, 04:53 AM	#129
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03-26-2009, 09:11 PM	#133
Justin Mandel Trust Establisher War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Long Island, NY. Posts: 2,968 Thanks: 526 Thanked 170 Times in 127 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? You do need the Authorize.net account to have the upsells work for you with BM. Is there any other processing companies that the script will work with?
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03-27-2009, 05:06 AM	#137
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03-27-2009, 05:43 AM	#139
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03-27-2009, 02:09 PM	#140
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03-27-2009, 02:40 PM	#141
Marc43 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 46 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? Hi Everybody, Got the same problem here I tried 4times, across 2 days something with the buying fields did not work properly ended up giving up.. I wanted in because got some good ideas from Mike in the past with a great ROI, but this time I have to say that the buy process was not smooth at all unfortunately a loose-loose I really wanted to try the new BM2.0... ----------------Update finally got it thanks guys Marc------

03-27-2009, 03:09 PM	#142
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03-27-2009, 03:52 PM	#143
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03-27-2009, 06:16 PM	#145
Justin Mandel Trust Establisher War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Long Island, NY. Posts: 2,968 Thanks: 526 Thanked 170 Times in 127 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Did anyone get Butterfly Marketing 2 then...?? Another BM question... Will BM work with Getrepsonse? There's no doubt it integrates with Aweber
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03-29-2009, 05:46 PM	#147
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