Raijun

First off I love Russell Brunson's micro-continuity system and I'm working on getting mine setup. It will be my first ever membership program, so that is exciting.

I just wanted to let everyone know about the MP3 player that I just got today. And no it's not an iPod, but you should have known that from the pictures and when Russell stated it was an MP3.

Anyway, I just got my MP3 player and although it looks cool it did have a little dirt on the headset. But no biggie, right?

Besides, I already downloaded the MP3s onto my own player.

Anyway, I tried hooking up the MP3 Player that I just got from Russell to my computer. Because I wanted to see how much space the little thing had.

And to my surprise! My antivirus program 'Avira' says it has a Trojan attached to the MP3 player. Not cool. And now I'm running a virus scan on my computer to see if it infected anything.

I'm not sure if it threw a false positive. So, be careful when you plug in the MP3 player to your computer.

Here's the info on the Trojan it has attached.

TR/Crypt.ZPACK.Gen

TR/Crypt.ZPACK.Gen - Summary

TelegramSam

I wonder if the Trojan takes $97 a month out of your bank account !!!

Dr Dan

lol... That was a good one.

oadvantage

is his product that good. he seems to be a pretty reputable person.

Dr Dan

I am a newbie at IM but I have looked at alot of stuff out there and it is the best complete package I have found to date. I love it so far and recommend signing up for his weekly micro c course (97 a month). This is the micro C program in bite sizes. Goes from picking a niche to setting up your site and all the rest.

gtgart

I am considering changing my lead products over to "Free CD" approach simply for the higher click value.

Once people have clicked, paid for shipping, they are in the click and pay mode more and this leads to higher conversions. Buyer resistence is broken down by interaction, so any method you have for getting people to interact with your page is going to increase leads, conversions etc.

Just mtcw.

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Dr Dan

I just got my mp3 in the mail today too. Looks just like the picture and alot like the last ipod shuffle. You can tell that it was made really cheap and has a buzzing noise when on. Also the earphone look like they were made for toys. The paint on the buttons for ff and rw are already rubbing off. I am not complaining for $9 bucks but just stating the facts. I am glad Russell used this ipod lookalike for his F+S offer since I wouldnt have jumped on this offer otherwise and am happy I did.

I am almost done with my week 1 homework and ready to rock! Next step is recording the F+S giveaway, then ordering my own copy, and then having the artwork and site designed. He recommends scriptlance and 99designs for that. I love the step by step process.

shermancox

Still ain't got my mp3 player...but kind of like you...it was the final thing to push me over the edge towards buying and I am glad I did...Looks like I am in about at the same place you are in the program...

On the graphics front, you want to check out the warriors who do that kind of thing...I found one who is doing it very inexpensively...

rhelaine

the MP3 were good and i received te player yesterday...sucks that i cancel my membership after not receiving answer from them....before they send me the link to the videos...

procoach

rhelaine,

FYI, Russell posted the links to the first 2 videos earlier in this thread.

b0ndr3ws

I was interested in this program and I too agreed to pay the 9.95 for the mp3 player with the content. It has been 2 weeks and I have still not received it. So i have decided to cancel before the FREE 2 week training is up and I get billed...however I have made 2 attempts to cancel via the online support desk ( no answer) and have called the supposed customer support line twice to cancel and make sure I am not billed but all you get is a voicemail telling you they are busy or its after hours and I have yet to hear from anyone.


For someone who makes customer support such a big element of importance I'd have to say that his customer support system lacks confidence. If anyone has successfully cancelled any of his programs I'd like to know. I understand that some of these guys try to keep costs down by using help desks and recordings but everyother "Major" Guru I have ever dealt with certainly provided better response that Brunson's.

bandrews

Dr Dan

Here is the link to cancel without waiting for them. Russell sent it with the links to download the 2 videos.

******If you are concerned about getting through to our help desk to cancel before the billing cycle, you can cancel at any time on your own here:
Cancel My Account Now

Dr Dan

Here is the links he posted to watch the videos:

Week #1 Training:
http://microcontinuity.com/content.php?day=ZGF5MQ==

Week #2 Training:
http://microcontinuity.com/content.php?day=ZGF5Mg==

Just use the email address you used when you ordered and it will take you to the members area.

Dr Dan

Hey Sherman can you PM me there info? If you are willing to share of course . I always prefer referrals.

shermancox

just PMed you with the info...

Dr Dan

Got it and just messaged him too! You rock brother!

b0ndr3ws

Dan thanks man - you rock. They were going to bill me even though I had responded in enough time! Of course I will have to make sure they don't process anyway - but thanks.

bandrews

Dr Dan

your welcome brother, and anytime.

Boyd Michaels

Hey Gang,

I love Russell's system and sad to hear that a few hear felt they did not get their moneys worth. Recommend it too. Not just for the "marketing secrets" but also new ways about creating your own content. I opted in to the free plus shipping MP3 player and listening to it while lawnmowing I finally discovered my niche! If you ever tried to launch a salespage/ebook type information product- and struggled with the time it took, Microcontinuity is a great alternative.

TelegramSam

Help me believe:

I am trying to make up my mind about this program and I have followed this thread for a few days now.

I would like some experienced warriors to give me thier opinions about it.

Some of the most glowing opinions seem to come from folks with very low post counts.

I don't think I am suggesting these may be shill postings, but here are some of the writers and their post counts and their comments:


User name - post count - comments

myhomestart - 4 posts - "Russell Rocks"
dreamit78 - 8 posts - "genuine guy"
egenius - 1 post - "100% ethical and honest"
coolmoma - 1 post - "thanks a bunch"
free09 - 3 posts - "highly recommend it"
munbhero - 3 posts - "impressed and happy"
bmichaels - 1 post - "love Russell's system"


Do you believe these postings and what they say?

Make me believe.

What do the long term forum members think about this course?

Sam

chewie49

Well,....I will give my opinion. TelegramSam motivated me to do it:

I also ordered the CONTENT (the MP3 player is not what he is selling, and the MP3 player is only a bonus) and so far I am very happy with it (or should I say "obessesed" as I am now recommending the system to offline businesses) And i am planing to stick with the 97$ per month.

So far I find the content very good and you should give it a try.

I haven't received the MP3 player yet but I don't care. It was a suprise for me to receive the MP3 files right away. I thought that I was going to need to wait until I received the player but not. I could likste to the Mp3 the same day.

And the membership is VERY clear and not in fine print. I perfectly knew this was going to be like this and even Russell recommends you be CRISTAL CLEAR with that to your customers.

So,....I definitely Recommend it.

Dr Dan

I am still a newbie with low posts but love the program he laid out. Just make sure to follow the 97 subscription plan and not the 497/197 package he offers as a OTO. its the same content but doesnt give you the handouts he talks about on the webinar you are watching. He also has some of the steps different in the 2 programs. Stick with the 97 subscription (weekly videos) plan.

Also his support is really bad. I have put in numeraous tickets, phone calls, emails and it takes at least 4-5 days to get anything back and still havent solved it. He did post a message on this board saying they are backed up but it is really bad.

barefootsusan

I did eventually hear back from support, but my issue was not a big one. I did like that, when I went to unsubscribe, it was not a hassle. I do hate how many hoops a lot of marketers and companies make you go through to cancel. If someone doesn't want to be a customer anymore, why make it almost impossible to leave? Surely that has to hurt in the long run.

rhelaine

The support gave me a couple more days to watch the videos since i unsubscribed before i received the links.

not bad...to bad my money is tied up in another project right now...but i might go back to it in a bit.

Wickwire

Would you mind PMing those to me as well? I would have PMed you, but I only have 2 posts because I've been more of a reader on these boards. Thank you!

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Dr Dan

Update on support: Took exactly 7 days to get a response from Nicole with Russell's support after a few emails, opening a few tickets and 2-3 calls. I had the ticket opened on high priority.

mrmahdavi

I'm getting calls from Russell's office for a coaching program. Any thoughts???

Jeff_Gardner

I'm one of the testimonials from Russell's website - and Russell always gives the real "stuff".

The key is implementation.

Last week, I got a check for $5,200 from my "Micro-Continuity website"

This week, another check for over $3,000.

Yes, it works.

If you'd like to know more, message me and I'll be happy to let you know.

I love my MC site - because it works 24/7, hands-free.

Best,
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ajsmith

Interesting comments.

Here's my take. I found the free content leading up to the MC launch simply amazing. I thought the first week was extremely good. I had to cancel basically due to time constraints. Hopefully he'll offer it again later. If it weren't for the time constraints, I would have continued hands down, full throttle.

I've always thought that Russell offers a lot of value. His products are normally very straight forward....do this, then do that. No B.S. Straight-up doable action steps.

His help desk was overwhelmed, and even sent a message saying so. But eventually they got around to me.

One other thing, I believe with the free content that Russell gave, including the videos, and Joy's report, you could easily run with it and create a product of your own.

No I'm not a friend of Russell's, I've never met him. But I admire his work ethic as well as his quality of work.

cgkoste

If you know what you are doing- you can get enough information from the free videos to put together your own site.

I purchased it- and am staying with the monthly membership-

If you want to put together a site similair to this, check out Jimmy d. Browns Membernair site. (available at Clickbank)

His program is what I modeld my Debt Free Coaching Club

site.

Courtney

p.s. If you are interested- affiliate program is through PDC

feel free to pm me

mmancha

Regarding cancelling:
They were both prompt and nice when I cancelled. I remained in for the first month and I cancelled for personal reasons. During that time I did get my site planned and made my video recording for the squeeze page and free c.d. offer using a telesiminar line as they taught.
I do plan to finish what I have started, I really like the business model.
I actually had to contact their support twice and they responded the following day both times. Just fill out a new ticket at the help desk and give them the last four digits of the credit card you used and your name. Easy.

Sonam22

If you dont want me to get credit, that is totally fine, but I urge you FOR YOUR OWN sake to go check it out. I promise the marketing strategy will be the ONLY strategy you ever need for ANY product you choose to sell.

jasondinner

I didn't buy it but I know the majority of the people that actually go through
the course in its entirety (or at least some of it) will benefit greatly from it.

How do I know?

Because Russell is one of just a handful of guys I follow very closely and
always learn something from whether I buy or not.

Just the free content he was giving away was worth more than most
crap we find in our inboxes on a daily basis.

And NO, I did not promote this as an affiliate and you won't find
a link in my sig to a Micro C review site so don't think for one second
that there is anything in it for me by chiming in here.

If you do, then I feel bad for you because you're vision is clouded.

Anyways, Russell knows his sh*t and is very good at teaching it.

Good Luck to everyone that actually takes action

The rest of you? Take responsibility. It's not everyone else's fault for
your current circumstances. In 99% of the cases, it is yours.

All the best,

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faithefin

Yes, I have too. Haven't decided for sure yet, but they are calling again tomorrow afternoon. So will have to decide soon.

Anyone?

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TyBrown

I got the system and it couldn't have been more up front and clear that there was a $97 charge coming. This is a continuity model that is acceptable and has been used for a long time, i.e. Golds Gym lets you enter for $1 and then charges $50 a month, VOIP phone service lets you sign up for $5 then charges $29 a month, etc.

vertical100

No... I didn't buy it. ***QUESTION***

I am creating a Micro-C site. I filmed 4 1/2 hours of Video in one day with... Dr Joe Rubino, Chuck Abbott, and a few others.

It is for the "Accelerator for Success" system using the Dream Bar Cafe Principles I created after my years of being a Protege of Jay Abraham and a Tony Robbins Trainer.

Question: Who knows the BEST place to store the video's... for people to watch them after they purchase the program?

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vertical100

Sorry to hear that - it doesn't sound like Russell would put a crappy product in the marketplace... but I guess it's possible.

Can you take what you've learned and create a site that will earn you your money back? If not, I'd be happy to buy the course from you. Thanks for posting. ~Bill

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Amanda_Davis

Rackspace Cloudfiles or Amazon S3

brunski57

Russell is good guy. I have gotten several refunds and or credits as requested... no problem. Sometimes it takes a few days.


Study how Russells sells and pitches his stuff... he is good! I record and snag his sales approach for later review.

Momcat1

3. Joy's excellent site is a great example of RB's micro-c model.
While thinking about my own niche/s, I could not help myself but thinking as to whether her site would be suited for a market outside of the USA? I have obviously not bought the CD (and I have no intentions to), but I would be interested to know if she added a session/section that covers rules and regulations for running a home based preschool outside of her own home country?
Just a thought, I could very well imagine that it might actually be very restricted in some countries?[/quote]

Hi,
My daughter purchased Joy Anderson's Start a Preschool. The "free" CD has some pearls of wisdom. The first month is slightly repetitive if you watched her giveaway content and listened to the CD-but still, there are quite a few gems in there.

The second month gets a bit meatier. At 7 weeks in to the program she has not made suggestions for any countries besides the US. She does offer suggestions on how to go about doing the research for your particular area, though. Additionally, participants in her program are writing her with information as to what is (and is not) allowed or required in their parts of the country. Joy mentioned a few of these in a recent video.

Altogether it's a good program and my daughter is pleased.

Hope this helps!

gcintermed

Found this thread after receiving an affiliate pitch from Brian Tracy about the "free" training on the "free MP3 player". It all looked good... but TOO good to be true... and sure enough, there it was, buried in the fine print of the order page, the $97/month negative-option forced continuity program.

Call me old-fashioned, but a "free" offer needs to come with no strings attached-- certainly no hidden strings-- or it's not a free offer, it's a con.

I am sure this kind of thing has been extensively tested, and it pulls better than if you actually TELL people what the real offer is in your sales pitch. From which we can conclude that if you TRICK people by seducing them with "FREE", without revealing the true costs and commitments in the offer until the very end, you can suck in more money.

So if it works, and is legal, what's the problem? The problem is that these types of offers REEK with sleaze; they scream out "BEWARE!! YOU CAN'T TRUST ME!" Is that really the kind of marketer you want to be?

By the way, I can't comment on the quality of the program. It could be really great stuff, as others have said. My point is simply that when it is marketed in this way I have ZERO confidence in the product or the marketer.

I think sometimes in IM we become jaded with all the latest direct response techniques-- the free offers that aren't free, the fake urgency and scarcity, the one-time offers and back end upsells-- that we forget the role of TRUST in the marketing relationship. So instead of just trying to maximize our conversion rates, I think we should be asking what effect will our actions have on how prospects and customers perceive us, and their likelihood of trusting us in the future.

-end of rant-

TelegramSam

If he was such a "good guy", then why were you seeking refunds from him?

From what you said, I don't know if this shows badly on him or you.

Please clarify if you don't mind.

Thanks.
Sam

Lee McIntyre

Hi Ryce

1) You signed up for a $1 trial to our $97 per month coaching club. This is EXTREMELY clear from the sales materials and our level of disclosure is very transparent.

50% of the sales letter is devoted to this, and it's mentioned multiple times in BOLD on the order form.

Also, you got an autoresponder follow up series telling you all about the membership.

In addition, it was plastered all over the thank you page!

2) Cancelling is super easy - we have live support, a support desk, or you can call my office and speak with my staff. We don't make you jump through any hoops at all. It's super easy to cancel.

3) No one forced you to take advantage of our free trial. This was an option we presented to you, and we made the offer VERY clear. If you subsequently didn't want to be billed you could just contact our support desk or send us an email.

4) You got a response in TWO HOURS to your support query. I think that's pretty fast! We do provide a live support function, but it's not 24/7 and when you used that function, before sending me a message, our team member was not on duty. But your question was answered within 2 hours.

Having said all of that, we don't want anyone to be unhappy, and so if you don't want the product then my support team will happily refund you

Many thanks

Lee McIntyre

jasondinner

I've been watching Lee McIntyre grow into the super successful marketer he has become
and one thing I can tell you he is not is a scam artist.

It is the customer's responsibility to THOROUGHLY read the sales letter in its entirety.

And the fact that the terms of the trial are clearly stated in several locations throughout
the letter leads me to believe that our buddy Ryce wasn't being a very responsible consumer.

I'll even bet the terms are repeated on the order form too.

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ibuyhomz

Thank you brutha!!! Ipods are really overrated. You have to download everything and then upload through itunes and all sorts of time wasting activities, etc.

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Ryce

Hi Lee,

Thanks for the reply.

I use the web for at least 15 years and I consider myself somewhat experienced on the matter.

I have an ebay and Amazon account with thousands of transactions and more than 10 years and although I can be wrong as everyone else sometimes I doubt I would do such a dumb mistake or take advatange of your work for a mere $1 dollar.

I 've put my credit card number to show I am no get a freebie kind of person.

I am a paid member for the War Room and recommend it to EVERYONE.

I guess next time I should Print Screen any other offer I decide to test.

I just reviewed the 6 e-mails you sent the day I subscribed.

NOT A SINGLE ONE SAYS I SIGNED FOR A 97$ MEMBERSHIP

Out of 6 emails with thousands of words the word "membership" shows up ONCE and by the end of the e-mail in those "PS" last minute remarks. And NO, ZERO, ZIPPO reference is there for a monthly fee


Never got your $197 "free gift" either... but since I thought your content did not suit my needs never bothered to copy,download,ask or anything else.

I can Copy all emails to another thread if you feel I am been UNFAIR with you.


In all my naiveness I thought you asked for a credit card number so I could check the content and if I found it valuable you would cross sell , up sell , refer me or whatever.

How Naive....

Anyways, just dont say that "50% of the sales letter is devoted to this, and it's mentioned multiple times in BOLD on the order form."

BECAUSE IT WAS NOT.

The same way that your "Live chat" support showed as ONLINE and NOBODY was available for live chat.

Oh yes, guess I was not lucky the same way that I could not see mentioned multiple times in BOLD on the order form that I was subscribing for a monthly $97" because I am a crackhead drug addict that is trolling around.


As GCINTERMED wrote here on reply #149:

I think sometimes in IM we become jaded with all the latest direct response techniques-- the free offers that aren't free, the fake urgency and scarcity, the one-time offers and back end upsells-- that we forget the role of TRUST in the marketing relationship. So instead of just trying to maximize our conversion rates, I think we should be asking what effect will our actions have on how prospects and customers perceive us, and their likelihood of trusting us in the future.

-end of rant-


Thanks for cancelling anyways and all the best

ibuyhomz

I had that same problem. Because I have my email delivered to yahoo and gmail, I noticed that the yahoo account totally blocked it and the gmail account delivered it to my inbox. I later went in and white listed and set up rules to make sure anything with **Russell Brunson was delivered to my inbox.

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Ryce

Jason,

I wish you, Mcintyre and all the good people here the best of luck and success.

I can guarantee that I THOROUGHLY read the offer and although it might be there IT WAS NOT CLEARLY STATED.

You want to see a clear 30 day free signup page????

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Again,

Alsp are you going to blame me when his "ONLINE " chat is NOT AVAILABLE?

Excuses.... we all have a few...
Recently Chris Anderson the WIRED Wiz Guy and writer of 2 of the most commented books of the Digital Era: Long Tail and Free has come with one (pathetic excuse) for the http://www.vqronline.org/blog/2009/06/23/chris-anderson-free/#comment-3034

Even Hitler had hundreds of those to justify the gas chambers and NO, I am not jewish neither a hypocritical or a crackhead that cant read.

I dont have the Print Screen of the offer

BUT I DO have the 6 different e-mails sent on June 26th when I signd up for the offer. I can post somewhere or email you and you try to find a CLEAR like the ones above (basecamp, freshbooks) indication of a $97 upsell out of $1 monthly commitment

But again, I dont want to put Lee or anyone else down and I apologize if I was too harsh . But honestly, I think a talented guy like Lee dont need this kind of trick. There is a thread going on about Perry Belcher which is a huge success by all means guy that I just cant seem to relate either here

Again, you can all disagree with me but dont try the "Ryce cant read a sales Letter retoric" ...

thanks

StevenAitchison

I have to chip in here and say that I love the MC training and I believe it was very clear about the $97 per month training after the 14 day trial.

The only downside I've experienced so far is the payment processors. A merchant account over here in the UK was taking at least 6 - 8 weeks to process and also using the 1shoppingcart was going to cost an extra $97 per month.

I would have loved to use clickbank but they don't allow shipping of a product (well, technically they do, but you are not allowed to collect the address of your customer). So i reverted to using a combination of paypal, PayDotCom, DL Guard and Aweber. After some problems I have finally managed to get it sorted out with the help of the great team over at DL Guard forum.

My site is nearly ready to go live at www.LearnLucidDreaming.com and I can't wait. However thinking about it I should have really used the product launch formula to promote it.

If you are thinking about buying this I would recommend it without question and it really is a great business model that can be used over and over again.

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Dr Dan

I had taken the free ipod offer from Russell and it took about 3 weeks to get it in the mail. Fortunately he gave you an instant download right away. The ipod (mp3) player really sucks and has alot of static etc. So probably worth at the most $5-$10 at the flea market. But the content was golden.

I had also took advantage of one of his OTO's and bought his $197 Micro C digital version of his complete program. But after getting the frst 2 videos trainings that was part of his weekly free trial of his micro c program decided to get a refund and stick to the weekly micro c program since the content was beter laid out and had a ton of resources included. Even though the 197 would be a heck of alot less that $97 a month for 6 months. The refund took about a week and they were about 7 days to get a response from his company even after a few phone calls and emails and support tickets being opened. But it was not hard to get the refund. I just think they were really backed up from all the people that signed up for the free mp3 offer. Russell even responed with this on this forum. I also noticed that Russell pays his affiliates $26 (if I remember correctly) for each free mp3 that they give away. So you could imagine how many people must have taken advantage of this offer during the launch.

All and all, this is an awesome program and from what I have seen so far, he is a stand up guy and has some really awesome content and broken down step by step.