by cargen
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Hello fellow warriors,

I just received an email from a prominent warrior promoting projectfirstsale site.. the actors look cheezy..

Anyone have bought this product? Would love to hear a review.
#project #project first sale #projectfirstsale #projectfirstsale.com #sale
  • Profile picture of the author Steve W Adams
    Yes indeed I too am curious about this one, this Guy Mark Wilson does not sound like the average paid actor, although his guinea pig students do. I was about to take this one for a test drive but want to know if anyone out there has taken the plunge first, before I waste yet another $47.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sally52
      Originally Posted by Steve W Adams View Post

      Yes indeed I too am curious about this one, this Guy Mark Wilson does not sound like the average paid actor, although his guinea pig students do. I was about to take this one for a test drive but want to know if anyone out there has taken the plunge first, before I waste yet another $47.
      I got an email today, offering the same deal. One thing i have learned after spending more money than i would like my husband to know about is, that i now always cancel the page with the information. A message comes up to opt to stay or leave the page. I click "stay on the page" and look at the renewed offer. Well look at that.....a discount. Now only $19.
      I cancel the page again and opt to stay for the second time. Now a better offer. It is now only $9.
      As mentioned above, i also am interested, and for $9 not too much to lose. Might hold off and see if anyone comes up with a review, as after purchasing program after program, still have no idea how to do it.
      Having grown up with an abacus, rather than a slide rule or even a calculator, computers don't come natural and have a lot of difficulty trying to learn this internet business.
      Sorry for the extended post. All i really wanted to say is, there are cheaper options than just paying on the first time you see the page.
      I also noted it stated:"One time payment only, no ongoing payments".
      I do have a concern about follow up stuff you need to do to make this program work better. This is usually the one that will cost you $xx per month.

      Sally
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      • Profile picture of the author Clarence Range
        Isn't that just amazing just keep saying no and you will keep getting those discounts.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rizwan Ahmed
        Originally Posted by Sally52 View Post

        I got an email today, offering the same deal. One thing i have learned after spending more money than i would like my husband to know about is, that i now always cancel the page with the information. A message comes up to opt to stay or leave the page. I click "stay on the page" and look at the renewed offer. Well look at that.....a discount. Now only $19.
        I cancel the page again and opt to stay for the second time. Now a better offer. It is now only $9.
        As mentioned above, i also am interested, and for $9 not too much to lose. Might hold off and see if anyone comes up with a review, as after purchasing program after program, still have no idea how to do it.
        Having grown up with an abacus, rather than a slide rule or even a calculator, computers don't come natural and have a lot of difficulty trying to learn this internet business.
        Sorry for the extended post. All i really wanted to say is, there are cheaper options than just paying on the first time you see the page.
        I also noted it stated:"One time payment only, no ongoing payments".
        I do have a concern about follow up stuff you need to do to make this program work better. This is usually the one that will cost you per month.

        Sally
        if you click leave the page agian and stay you will get it for $1 i have pursed this product and its about video markerting it has a software that creates videos and helps you to upload them easir to facebook and youtube and so on.
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        • Profile picture of the author katarina1
          I have purchased this product for $19 and upgraded $194 to get 40 websites + traffic.
          software. I am not happy about all this because websites are not new or made by this guy and traffic system also isn't his.So called software is a joke ,take a look Created by Camtasia Studio 6
          and also making Face Book pages by guy from 'Real Quick Commissions'.

          Nothing is original or new!

          The best part is that I can't get refund from ClickSure Billing Customer Support (60 days "guarantee"), they just want to sell me more stuff.So far,I have received 4 emails in which I get more offers just to keep this 'product'. I understand now,why people like that do not use clickbank.They have standards and they mean business when they say 60 day guarantee!
          ClickSure is support platform for scammers.
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    • Profile picture of the author mssharmt
      Hey Steve
      Just reading your post re Project First Sale. Did you find out if anyone knows anything abt this guiy?
      Pls let me know..
      Inquiring Minds Wanna Know!
      Thank You..
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    • Profile picture of the author Carlsan
      cancel out of the first two offers and the price goes down to a whopping $9 for lifetime access...jus sayin
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  • Profile picture of the author rj_smith747
    Hey Warriors: I also just received this video from affiliate I've never heard of. No doubt another owner of Predator, just mass mailing people.

    I found Mark fairly honest in this Sales Video, but was suspicious of his 'students'. What I found very boring was that this guy Mark kept talking about ONLY 3 Steps to this system. Anthony Morrisson and is brother made the same claim in Sales Video's they release last year; taking 3 students and 'supposedly' helping them make some money within hours.

    I purchased Success with Anthony expecting to find these 3 Steps inside and was excited to get started. There were NO 3 Steps inside, ANYWHERE. Just a TON of tutorials and courses. I watched about a dozen video's, but there was NO 3 Steps anywhere to make any money within minutes or HOURS online.

    I emailed SWA Support to ask WHERE are these 3Steps Anthony talks about in the Sales Video. I was told 'These 3 people were working with a Trained Expert and you would need the same Trained Expert to help you make money this quickly". What???

    Trained expert. That wasn't mentioned in the Sales Video. Just follow these 3 Steps to Massive Daily Profits, is what I kept hearing.

    Ever since I purchased SWA, only to discover these 3 Steps were NOT there, I now don't trust any of these other offers. Yes, as Sally stated, you can click off the page to get it cheaper, usually for under 10 bucks, but then the UPSELLS. OMG. In many cases you are hit with hundreds or in some cases thousands of extras in the Upsells.

    I'm a newbie, like some of you, and am getting wiser now and NOT buying the latest thing coming out, but now looking HERE first. I love the Warrior Forum.

    So, like the others here, if anyone takes the 'plunge' on this, please let us know if there really are ONLY 3 STEPS to make this system work. I have my doubts.

    Have a happy day Warriors :-)....RJ
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    • It is obvious from what I have seen is the three person supposed live trial come on is the new hot sales button for these promoters. Like most, once you see how phony the actors are, and it is so easy to tell, how in the world can you trust what the lead actor is hyping with the hundreds per day nonsense in minutes with the same three easy steps BS.
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      • Profile picture of the author girvin12
        A few observations about this was, yeah how cheesy, the actors were and the fact he said it was his private helicopter or that he had a wife and 2 daughters. I ran a search on the helicopter ID number and it is registered to Hillsboro Aviation (not Mark Wilson), and if you watch the video on the wall is a portrait of 4 children photographed not 2. I don't even think this is his house. Probably he might be a fake or even an actor himself. Has he done this before? He makes a comment in the beginning that every year, at this time, he tries to give back to others! Seems a bit unreal to me, sorry!
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        • Profile picture of the author curly sue
          In my experience you need to first educate yourself making use of free stuff.
          Because all this offers are true but if you are not well informed, you will call them scams. Truth is people are making a lot of money on-line, they buy great houses, posh cars, as you see in these videos.

          The old saying ' if its too good to be true' does not apply any more!
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        • Profile picture of the author jamesie
          clever thinking running the chopper plate!
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        • Profile picture of the author jamesie
          I TOO GOT THE EMAIL AND WHILE "MARK WILSON" SEEMED GENUINE ENOUGH THE "STUDENTS" WERE TERRIBLE ACTORS CLEARLY SCRIPTED, PLUS HE SEEMED TO BE JUST MOVING AROUND THE SAME CAR LOT PICKING UP THE 3 PEOPLE, SURELY THERE ARE LAWS AGAINST USING THE STARBUCKS NAME IN FALSE PRETENSE? IF THIS SYSTEM IS SO GOOD THEN WHY WOULD HE BE SO DESPERATE TO SELL IT AT 49 DOLLARS THEN 19 DOLLARS THEN 9 DOLLARS, 9 DOLLARS TO COMPLETELY CHANGE YOUR LIFE? I DONT THINK SO! IM SURE THEY RENTED A COUPLE OF LIMOS A HELICOPTER AND A HOUSE FOR THIS VIDEO, ITS A LONG SALES PITCH SO HE IS CLEARLY DESPERATE FOR AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE TO PURCHASE THIS THEN FORGET ABOUT IT AND THE 60 DAY REFUND AND BINGO HE MAKES HIS MONEY! I THINK I WILL PASS ON THIS ONE...
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  • Profile picture of the author eXtraOrdinary
    I too 'found' this email in my inbox and mysteriously could not trace it back to a known marketer or product even thouhg it came from another province here in Canada. I did notice that the limo had US plates so I am not quite sure of the connection. I couldn't find any Mark Wilson in the professional business network sites on the web, and when I looked closely at the legalese at the bottom of the page I found this

    " The typical purchaser does not make any money using this system."

    Not a very glowing endorsement for any product!
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  • Profile picture of the author GaryBurke
    cancel out the first 2 offers as said and you can get it for $9.
    In the videos he says there are no extra costs but after you purchase there are upsells by the truckload.
    I bought it for $9 because I was curious and if it bombs out then i have only lost $9.
    After going through endless upsells and extra programs to really make this so called software take off through the roof i found it is some sort of video marketing software.
    I havent found how I make the money yet as i cant find where to get my affiliate id from but it appears the main stay is promoting Project First Sale
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  • Profile picture of the author SuperKids
    Aloha Folks,

    Like the rest here, I received the emails, I cancelled the pages, and see the endless offers. So I will not repeat all the details already given before my post.

    I will add the following observations;

    1 - The pitch is not original, and is very misleading
    2 - I would not trust the clickbank results shown. countless reasons.

    The final pitch is to setup a website, using a specific service:

    --> https://orders.purelyhosting.com/billing

    The thing is, the pitch maker, (ie; wilson) is guaranteed to make the money from this process. Which is at least $49 startup, a little less if you have a spare domain handy.

    The package includes a website build service. That is purported to save you $2000.

    The website is going to offer information products from clickbank, in a niche you select.

    Nowhere, except in other sites posted by this "wilson" do you see before purchase, that you will need to get TRAFFIC. See here: PROJECT FIRST SALE

    So, without making a purchase, NO I DID NOT WASTE MY MONEY. It is clear that this program is fist about making affiliate sales, using clickbank products. Second, it is clear that you WILL SPEND MONEY to setup hosting, but they also build you a $2000 website in 48 hrs, RIGHT? Next, it is obvious you will be shown how to get traffic to visit your website, which better be awesome, so that it converts visitors to buyers.

    The software he wants you to buy, can be had for JUST $1, right, read careful... (You Will Be Billed $67 a Month After 3 Day Trial). So, Mr. Wilson will get you to sign for webhosting, and his software, before you can make any money, he has you spending $1 + $49 + $67, so $117 your down, before you see any money in the door. Of course the initial video, which is mentioned above, says nothing about this, and implies (ie; "lies') that you spend nothing, that you make money in 24hrs, (website build is 48hrs, see that pitch).

    So, IMHO... this is just a very elaborate way to scam the uneducated into spending over $100, only to find they will have to spend hours trying to get TRAFFIC, (the first video imp"lies" otherwise, that you will not spend hours behind your laptop.

    What I got from all this, is a killer format to build my own version to sell website hosting and building services. That's how this guy wilson is paying for his limousine, bet $100 I'm right about that.

    So, if anyone is willing to waste $117 or more, and another 117 hours to play mr. wilson's game, do tell how it works out.

    But frankly, I sincerely think you will be better off to spend the money taking your wife out for dinner, and a good show. You have better memories, and get kisses for your investment. Or, you can help pay for mr. wilson's next limousine ride, and cameraman.

    Feel free to prove my evaluation wrong.

    Ooh, by the way, notice the same old clickbank images and login trick, and consider the drive around in a limousine picking up passengers. No ask yourself, if this guy was for real, why not go to his bank, with the limo, pickup the banker, show his business card, and have the real banker, show real statements from his bank, and praise his prized customer on camera? I think you know the answer why this was not done.

    Have a great day...

    Accept all blessings, be excellent to everyone, live long, prosper, and party often.

    Aloha, AR
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    • Profile picture of the author peterakie
      You nailed it on the button. How stupid do they think we are?
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  • Profile picture of the author shelbygt
    I have over 40 emails on this. I bet the sender never bought it themselves even through they claim it's the best thing since sliced bread!
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  • Profile picture of the author kingrich21470
    I've seen the project first sale last night.

    Mark Willison, really!!!!

    I bet that not his real name, but anyways..... Lets break this video down, $120.00 for 3 hours of rental limo service. (I have rent better limos in my life, and if i was him, i would ask for a refund) ok back to so call Mark Willison rental helicopter $340.00 for 3 hours, 3 bad actors that got paid maybe $100.00 or so.

    So he payed like $1000.00 for everything, camera guys that you can hire off Craigslist.

    For me I laugh my head off, I was like REALLY!!!!! more software crap selling on clickbank, I thought clickbank checks these products out before adding them to there site.

    All i see is alot of refunds, because onces they find out you have to put more money in to it to work the full access the so called software, your be out $500 to $1,000
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    Again, another thread with no actual review, just misconceptions about the sales video and so on.

    It's 2013 people, OF COURSE they are using paid actors - you should all know this by now.

    Secondly, this course requires NO additional costs to get set-up. No domain OR hosting are needed.

    Thirdly, ALL products have up-sells (again, it's 2013 you should have realized this by now).

    No, you do NOT need to purchase the done for you website and hosting, that offer is in EVERY product. It's called marketing.

    TO finish here is a quick review -

    You get a three step system inside, with three different methods.

    Method 1 - The video profits app and sniper strategy - the app allows you to easily create videos (that are similar to powerpoint presentations). Once the video is complete you get a embed code similar to YouTube embed, and they show you how to put it on FREE blogs such as Blogger. The app is good for creating review videos.

    Method 2 - 10 Done for you video campaigns (Self explanatory)

    Method 3 - How to utilize FaceBook fan pages and combine them with the Project First Sale method.

    All three methods come with relevant training videos.

    A course which is perfect for beginners (in my opinion). There, that wasn't so hard, was it? Instead of talking about the sales video, if actors were used or not, or debating on the price why don't you just buy for $9 so you can see what it's really about for yourself?

    Hope this short review helped those on the fence.
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    • Profile picture of the author jabro
      Originally Posted by Josh Monroe View Post

      Again, another thread with no actual review, just misconceptions about the sales video and so on.

      It's 2013 people, OF COURSE they are using paid actors - you should all know this by now.

      Secondly, this course requires NO additional costs to get set-up. No domain OR hosting are needed.

      Thirdly, ALL products have up-sells (again, it's 2013 you should have realized this by now).

      No, you do NOT need to purchase the done for you website and hosting, that offer is in EVERY product. It's called marketing.

      TO finish here is a quick review -

      You get a three step system inside, with three different methods.

      Method 1 - The video profits app and sniper strategy - the app allows you to easily create videos (that are similar to powerpoint presentations). Once the video is complete you get a embed code similar to YouTube embed, and they show you how to put it on FREE blogs such as Blogger. The app is good for creating review videos.

      Method 2 - 10 Done for you video campaigns (Self explanatory)

      Method 3 - How to utilize FaceBook fan pages and combine them with the Project First Sale method.

      All three methods come with relevant training videos.

      A course which is perfect for beginners (in my opinion). There, that wasn't so hard, was it? Instead of talking about the sales video, if actors were used or not, or debating on the price why don't you just buy for $9 so you can see what it's really about for yourself?

      Hope this short review helped those on the fence.

      Really?? The sales video says he owns the helicopter. He blatantly lies since it is owned by a school. He also makes so much money he spends most of his time at the beach. He lives in the middle of Oregon! Of course, people are supposed to talk about the sales video since nothing about the actual product is ever mentioned. It is just him saying how great it is making all this money after working at Starbucks.

      Doesn't matter if the product was $9 or $900 you are still blindly throwing your money at it since what you are buying is never mentioned. I don't care if the person who buys the product got that $9 from IM, working their 9-to-5, or begging on the street. They still worked hard for it and deserve to know what their $9 gets them.

      These videos need to be reviewed and slammed. They need to stop since they add no real value to consumers except to steal their money with outrageous claims and prey on people who are desperate for a quick buck.
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    • Profile picture of the author fatcats
      Definitely helped me - thanks Josh
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      • Profile picture of the author KT52
        I also received email today, spent time to see the video to the end. He called my name on the video (don't know how he did it) and said not many people is selected so I'm special. I almost wanted to buy and try it but I told my self that why do not google and check it out first. Then I checked this on google and found this product already all over the net and I found only one good honest review that he wrote after he bought the projectfirstsale. Finally I made decision not to buy after reading this review at: Project First Sale Review.

        Thanks
        Have a wonderful day
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  • Profile picture of the author djleon1
    Product looks junky but for everyone hating it realize that it is NOT Being sold via Clickbank but through Clicksure. Clicksure is where a lot of these affiliate type programs are going now that CB is changing their requirements a bit

    Read the fine print on the sales page and you will also see that you are opting-in to a series of sales calls for more training - and this is where the real money is for the product owners.
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  • Profile picture of the author bradudan
    It seems that everybody received this email ..

    If interested find it here at 9$ but i am concern to give my card data to this unknown site.

    Why does not accept Paypal? Maybe it is a scam for getting your card data....

    Think about it...it is a scam alright....
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  • Profile picture of the author rj_smith747
    Thank you Josh for yr non-neg review, as an owner of this. Really enjoyed your Video Review also. I understand why a lot of Warriors on this thread are upset, especially if like me, they are newbies and haven't made any money online yet.

    I'm slowly learning that 'all, or most sales video's' are the same - misleading. As Josh says, it's Marketing -they want to SELL. I think it would be a 'genuine miracle' if ANYONE ever put out a 100% HONEST Sales Video. I have yet to see one.

    I took the time lately to read the Disclaimer at the bottom of a couple. YES, they use PAID ACTORS; I believe they are 'up and coming wannabe actors', because they usually are terrible. I always suspected that. I'm also pretty convinced the fancy cars, limo's, helicopters & houses are 'rented' for the shoot'.

    In the disclaimer (IF I TAKE TIME TO READ IT - WHO DOES) it says I am agreeing to followup phone calls for further training. So in small fine print at the bottom, you are unknowingly agreeing to something you don't even know you are agreeing to.

    This rightfully should be a 'choice' given to you. I do NOT need any followup calls from these HIGH PRESSURE JERKS.

    I have stopped picking up now when I don't recognize the number or area code. These guys are SUPER HIGH PRESSURE. I've spoken to about 5 of these guys and they just don't take NO for an answer. The rebuttals they hit you with, are ridiculous.

    I had to actually hang up on 4 out of 5 of these characters cuz they just won't take NOT INTERESTED as an answer.

    Getting back to Project First Sale, I do know it's available for 9.00 and you can still get a refund, so you can get your 9 bucks back, unless you live in Canada. We only get back 8 bucks.

    I was going to consider looking at this, but as a newbie, one 'habit' I'm TRYING hard to break is stop buying the NEXT SHINY OBJECT that looks good, and STICK WITH ONE THING. I already have 5 Awesome courses, that I haven't completed, so really ONE more would definitely be INFORMATION OVERLOAD!

    If any Newbies read this, I'm sure you already own ONE or more good course. My advice, STICK WITH IT! Like I say, I have 5 really good courses; they all teach things a little different, so I do jump back and forth a bit, picking bits from here and there.

    In closing if anyone here, other than Josh does purchase Project First Sale, and you do make any money, please share your success with us. Sincere apologies for the length... Cheerz Warriors :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author LWYSIWYG
    Originally Posted by Josh Monroe
    It's 2013 people, OF COURSE they are using paid actors - you should all know this by now.
    Agreed


    Originally Posted by Josh Monroe
    ALL products have up-sells (again, it's 2013 you should have realized this by now).
    Again, agreed.

    In short -

    it is a "video creating software" with some videos on how you can promote YOUR videos to earn some sales online.

    Can it work? - Absolutely
    Does it work? - Again, Absolutely
    Do you NEED to buy this product to do what it's claiming? - No

    I bought it for the $9 to see what the hype was (I along with everyone else got about 50 emails about this product) and I think for newbs it could do great.

    For everyone else who already understands marketing online, video marketing, FB Fan Pages etc etc, it's kinda pointless. Though the "software" is neat and creates slideshow-like videos REALLY fast.
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    • Profile picture of the author moonlite
      I came here before viewing the video. Based on what I've read, I can do the same thing with a video curator software I just started using. And a couple of courses on FB sales & integration stored on my pc. Plus I just don't want to waste time going through the "upsales dance" if I don't need to. Thank you, warriors, for saving me valuable time once again! Much appreciation here
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  • Profile picture of the author essroberts9
    I just went on the website promotion for Project First Sale and now he's offering it for "free" yes from $47 - to $9 - now to $1.00 - then free but, it reverts back to the $1.00 if you keep canceling. Wow.. Amazing people will go through so much to get access to your credit card and money... Does anyone know a true way to make money on the internet? I'm not looking for the road to quick riches but, I'm an average person, know a little bit about internet marketing - etc. but, nothing has happened for me to say WOW! I did it. Any Advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author GMProps
      Wow! Love the reviews. You guys convinced me.

      As they say on the show Dragon's Den: "I'm out."
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  • Profile picture of the author Honeybaked
    LOL
    I love the actors they sold me.
    After they finally got to his house with the for sale sign and the picture of four kids on the wall in his rustler jeans (love those). Those actors making money with their bad acting sold me -hook-line-sinker.
    ...
    Why Not I got $9 to waste!!

    Wow I actually got this for the 9 bucks after the billion up/down sells.

    Im in..


    Uh Oh the guy in the video must be wanted by the police his voice is not of a human.

    Step 1.---Make Video with Software
    So I got beyond the voice(though kinda creepy) The software is OK its just a easy video making software. So Ive made my video sweet .... save&publish...click. ??? where the heck did that music come from? where do I edit the music with sirens and some police officer on his walkie-talkie talking? Did they record this from the back of the cop car?
    Goto Google and search site:fsmembers.com and review all the videos being created with the software turn your speakers up...lol

    So I contacted support about the sound and where to edit it, Here is the email response:
    the audio is generic, you cannot change it. This is done to make things simple and to make all videos compatible with HTML pages All to action events are near the end of the video, where you are urging the viewer to purchase the product.


    In conclusion there are some good marketing techniques included but nothing new and I will not try to get a refund bucause they run it through clicksure just a note to whom the list that I am on PLEASE dont send me that crap!

    Ryan
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  • Profile picture of the author serraniche
    Originally Posted by cargen View Post

    Hello fellow warriors,

    I just received an email from a prominent warrior promoting projectfirstsale site.. the actors look cheezy..

    Anyone have bought this product? Would love to hear a review.
    Not sure how i came across this Project First Sale, caught my attention your email was from a "prominent warrior", i noticed nowadays prominent warriors promoting products without having a test drive, not that they can't, but we need to at least come to the warrior forum to double check.

    The product sales video shooting cost (actors, helicopter, house rental, limos, chouffer, camera crew, insurances, etc.) should be around $5,000.
    ..but 3 push buttons system / 3 person live study cases?/, 3 hours or less to financial freedom/, is this too good to be true? i think it's.

    Thanks warriors for the awareness and red flag here until further notice!
    This thread save me time and money. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author nickd2509
    Just got to the final video and now I can get unrestricted access for.... wait for it....."FREE".
    I knew by being patient all good things would come. I think I'll wait a little longer.
    Thanks to all that had posted before and given me the heads up.
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  • Profile picture of the author higherluv
    Haha, the free thing wasn't there before, previously it only went down to $9.

    Anyways, I tried it and it's horrible.

    Upsells to the whazzoo - way more than the average product. And in sneaky locations - they have you go through certain steps on the front page, step 1, 2 etc, that's where you HAVE to purchase the upsells it seems...

    Don't even bother with the youtube section (technique #2), since all of his videos are banned by youtube - you'll just have to make your own.

    The free audio thing he uses for the first traffic method doesn't change. Well, in any case, it did work for traffic - but it was brief and then zero. Would have to test it against a squeeze page which you could employ the video thing from the first technique.

    Maybe I'll just refund and just get it again FREE. After all, that's what it's worth = zero. Then again, what a time waster...
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  • Profile picture of the author todd123
    Let's wrapped it up a bit: The truth is, there are good marketers and there are ruthless marketers. The first category take money from their buyers with elegant manner, high business ethics, no cheating whatsoever and provide high quality products to their list, whenever their buyers request for refund, they will do it happily, no question ask.

    The second one is the majority that try with all their efforts to make any visitors to buy from them, with no shame in their dictionary, their only concern is to 'milk out' those pitty newbies or those poor buyers chasing the next shinny object. This second type of marketers could commit ruthless action against refund requests and thus accusing, blaming their buyers from making fraudulent acts such as sharing, using illegal ip for login and so on against their digital ebooks/membership contents whatsoever. In most cases, if you buy using your paypal from the second category marketers that host their payment on other e-commerce payment sites outside paypal, you should expect no refund at all, even if you call for a dispute or escalate your dispute to paypal.

    If you purchase membership, beware, as when you call for dispute in paypal, paypal might give a plain, blunt reason: "sorry we could not help you with your dispute this time, since this deal with intangible products."

    Paypal suck? You bet!

    How many times have you lose your $, $$ or perhaps $$$ to what you think the next qualified guru to mentor you but end up getting some reharshed craps out of the membership area?

    They said most of the make money online niche full of hypes...
    They said most of the internet marketers are liars...
    They said most of the digital base info are reharshed...
    They said most of the make money online tactics are out-dated...

    BUT...

    Try to watch following video, it might gives some sparks in your brilliant brain:

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/2fTOCLoO2js

    What do you guys think? Any real deal here?
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin012
    I am one of the guys to purchase "Project First Sale"...only because the guy Mark made it sound like the best money making system on the market. He's a pretty good actor alright But once I watch the videos I immediately noticed the guy's (another guy Mark hired) voice sounded robotic...haha (His voice was obviously altered
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