If you use Long Tail Pro read this.....

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Hi Warriors

I recently purchased the LTP and did not realize you needed to be upgraded to the platinum version, in order to unlock the additional feature of seeing the advanced scores and what not based on the keyword SEO competition.

I'm not that bothered about upgrading if I have to, however I would like to hear from anyone that is not upgraded, who can perhaps give me an example of how to work out what scores via the results, indicate a good keyword to optimize for etc...

I would like to hear from anyone that is upgraded as well please, that can tell me if it's really worth the upgrade. I can see why having that over all score via the platinum feature would certainly be useful.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
    Even if someone could just let me know, if it's worth investing in the monthly subscription. Also is it worth making a Google Adwords account, because you get more results according to the training videos.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
    Wow 2 days and no response, I guess nobody is using this then?
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    • Profile picture of the author clubapple
      i just got it a few days ago and haven't given it a good run yet. one thing i did notice is that it may not be able to show your ranking on youtube. that would have been great since marketing is moving in that direction. another thing is that they dont show ranking beyond 500 which is also not so great.

      doesnt hurt making a google adword account. you want google to tell you what keywords are hot or not since they are the ones doing the ranking. other people opinions on what key words is best don't dont mean much if google things other wise
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      • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
        Originally Posted by clubapple View Post

        i just got it a few days ago and haven't given it a good run yet. one thing i did notice is that it may not be able to show your ranking on youtube. that would have been great since marketing is moving in that direction. another thing is that they dont show ranking beyond 500 which is also not so great.

        doesnt hurt making a google adword account. you want google to tell you what keywords are hot or not since they are the ones doing the ranking. other people opinions on what key words is best don't dont mean much if google things other wise
        I have created an Adwords account, I have no problems using it or anything. I only really need to find out if having the upgraded feature of Platinum is really needed.

        It's just you can only get the over all accurate score, based on the keyword SEO competition if you have that feature you see.
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        • Profile picture of the author momakmak
          I have had it for months now and have liked it very much. It is very simple and to the point.

          I never upgraded but when they were in beta for platinum they let you try it for free. I had platinum for about a month and it worked well and had some great extra features that I think should be in it without being platinum.

          One feature was that I could easily save the keywords that I found to be great for projects. Then platinum was downgraded back to regular and I lost all those keywords that I had saved. BIG FAIL for LTP. I hate them for this one. I had about 10 keywords ready for me to get started on that all had more than 3k unique local searches and high ppc.

          I am not upgrading. I can do with out the extra bill for the upgrade easily. They should have just given the upgrade to everyone and made it the new and improved LTP. They would have dominated the keyword tool niche even greater.

          The only thing that makes it different for me now is that I put all the keywords in a txt file. No big deal.

          They also had extra features to check competition, but really, if you have been doing this for a while and already have a feel for what you can do, you dont need to go into great detail into your competition.

          LTP basic is worth the money. Upgrading is not necessary.
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          • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
            Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

            I have had it for months now and have liked it very much. It is very simple and to the point.

            I never upgraded but when they were in beta for platinum they let you try it for free. I had platinum for about a month and it worked well and had some great extra features that I think should be in it without being platinum.

            One feature was that I could easily save the keywords that I found to be great for projects. Then platinum was downgraded back to regular and I lost all those keywords that I had saved. BIG FAIL for LTP. I hate them for this one. I had about 10 keywords ready for me to get started on that all had more than 3k unique local searches and high ppc.

            I am not upgrading. I can do with out the extra bill for the upgrade easily. They should have just given the upgrade to everyone and made it the new and improved LTP. They would have dominated the keyword tool niche even greater.

            The only thing that makes it different for me now is that I put all the keywords in a txt file. No big deal.

            They also had extra features to check competition, but really, if you have been doing this for a while and already have a feel for what you can do, you dont need to go into great detail into your competition.

            LTP basic is worth the money. Upgrading is not necessary.
            First of all I'm sorry to hear about those lost keywords, honestly I can only imagine how pissed that made you. Based on not needing the upgrade and stuff, I have to agree that it's some what greedy of them to make you payout more just to be able to access that.

            However, it's a tough world at the best of times, everyone wants to make money at the end of the day, anyways, you mentioned that you don't use it or need it so I'm assuming you have some type of criteria, with the results when using the analyze feature.

            I did my home work and watched the videos LTP have made, I sourced some stuff that he mentioned and wrote it down. You can take a look bellow:

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            Mentioned in the video:

            Easy'ish keyword = Page Authority 30 or less

            Medium keyword = below 40 is ok

            Hard keyword = above 40/50

            Juice links best with = 20-30
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            Perhaps if you would be kind enough to share, anything that you personally look for when assessing the results via the analyze feature, that would be very helpful indeed for me to be honest and I would appreciate it.

            My only worry you see is that if I judge everything, based on the suggested stats in the videos I could miss a trick. I don't want to end up wasting hours of my time on something that could be inaccurate.
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          • Profile picture of the author tinknocker
            Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

            I have had it for months now and have liked it very much. It is very simple and to the point.

            I never upgraded but when they were in beta for platinum they let you try it for free. I had platinum for about a month and it worked well and had some great extra features that I think should be in it without being platinum.

            One feature was that I could easily save the keywords that I found to be great for projects. Then platinum was downgraded back to regular and I lost all those keywords that I had saved. BIG FAIL for LTP. I hate them for this one. I had about 10 keywords ready for me to get started on that all had more than 3k unique local searches and high ppc.

            I am not upgrading. I can do with out the extra bill for the upgrade easily. They should have just given the upgrade to everyone and made it the new and improved LTP. They would have dominated the keyword tool niche even greater.

            The only thing that makes it different for me now is that I put all the keywords in a txt file. No big deal.

            They also had extra features to check competition, but really, if you have been doing this for a while and already have a feel for what you can do, you dont need to go into great detail into your competition.

            LTP basic is worth the money. Upgrading is not necessary.


            I agree, I had the beta version too and while it had additional features you really don't need them. I lost the data too when I was downgraded.

            I have had LTP for a while now and it works good and worth the money but like momakmak said you really don't need to upgrade.
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  • Profile picture of the author drewfioravanti
    I used it a lot before the Penguin update. I was making about $3500 per month with a ROI of over 1000% (I think...if my math is correct...monthly spend of about $300).

    It has been updated since then and I just fired it up a couple weeks ago when I got the email about the new version.

    If you use the free methods Spencer shows you can figure out what keywords you can rank for.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
      Originally Posted by drewfioravanti View Post

      I used it a lot before the Penguin update. I was making about $3500 per month with a ROI of over 1000% (I think...if my math is correct...monthly spend of about $300).

      It has been updated since then and I just fired it up a couple weeks ago when I got the email about the new version.

      If you use the free methods Spencer shows you can figure out what keywords you can rank for.
      Thanks, so just use the methods I post above, that I sourced from his training videos then right etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author drewfioravanti
    That's enough information to figure it out. And, with experience, you'll get better at it. It's better to learn to do it than to have a program give you a rating that is probably nothing more than a calculation based on the information you already have.
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    • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
      Originally Posted by drewfioravanti View Post

      That's enough information to figure it out. And, with experience, you'll get better at it. It's better to learn to do it than to have a program give you a rating that is probably nothing more than a calculation based on the information you already have.
      That makes a lot of sense actually.
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  • Profile picture of the author Promo Couponz
    As per my personal view, Long Tail Pro Version is most suitable for newbie, Internet Marketers & Bloggers. I suggest you that first do keyword research ........ build a niche website ........ & earn some income so that you can cover the cost, which you invested on this software. When you start earning regular passive income..... then try to upgrade it to Platinum Version because by upgrading you can get following benefits :-
    • Save keywords to a "Favorites" list
    • Calculate Average Keyword Competitiveness (KC) directly on the keyword results page
    • Calculate Keyword Competitiveness on the Competitor Analysis screen
    • Additional SEOmoz data; such as Juice Page Links, Page Authority, Domain Authority and more
    • New layout and logo!

    I am LTP Platinum User for the last 1 month and I really liked its main feature, which is KEYWORD COMPETITIVENESS. Under this feature, the software do all the SEO related calculation and suggest a number between 0 and 100, which tells the user that how difficult it would be to rank for that particular keyword in Google. As a general guideline; here is what I have found from my own analysis for keyword competitiveness:
    0 to 10 - No competition
    10 to 20 - Extremely low competition
    20 to 30 - Low competition
    30 to 40 - Moderate Competition
    40 to 50 - Somewhat High Competition
    50 to 60 - Very High Competition
    60 to 70 - Extremely High Competition
    70 to 100 - Don't even think about it!

    I Hope that Long Tail Pro User can found this useful informative. Please share your comment.

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  • Profile picture of the author rugman
    I just got LTP and have been playing around with it. I did not upgrade. I pulled a nice keyword out last night and then put it in Traffic Travis (free version). It came up "relatively easy" which I assume is the same as a 20-30 in LTP?
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    • Profile picture of the author viantea
      I don't think I like the software. It takes years to display results and most times it just freezes. i bought it during the promotion or so and I don't think it is worth it. It didn't work for me and still not working .Market samurai still the best keyword research tool available. I wish i didn't buy it
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      • Profile picture of the author IM Lover
        Originally Posted by viantea View Post

        I don't think I like the software. It takes years to display results and most times it just freezes. i bought it during the promotion or so and I don't think it is worth it. It didn't work for me and still not working .Market samurai still the best keyword research tool available. I wish i didn't buy it
        I agree with you 1,000000% on that one! it's rubbish and laggs like crazy, I actually gave it the benefit of the doubt but am very let down by it.
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        • Profile picture of the author ajaxmike
          They offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee. Ask for a refund.
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          • Profile picture of the author BlockTrade
            I am using the trial version right now. I think it is a great tool, but after three days I am now having issues getting the program to return results. LTP will give me zero results now for everything. Not sure if I over used it on Tuesday or something, but it is not working this morning at all. Sent an email to Spencer.
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            • Profile picture of the author ajaxmike
              You probably used it too much and Google detected a bot using the keyword tool. Before locking you out Google will put up a captcha to ensure if a real human is using the keyword tool. When this happens, LTP will stop because it is waiting for Google and Google is waiting for the captcha.

              That's my take -- let us know what Spenser says
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                    • Profile picture of the author Yuma
                      Originally Posted by johngs View Post

                      I just purchased LT Pro after using the trial version and liking it. I would have purchased Platinum if I knew how hard it would be to stop the subscription. I didn't see any mention of how to stop it. Anyone out there stopped the platinum service and gone back to pro.
                      If you paid via Paypal, look under recurring payment. Cancel it there. If not, I'd send an email to Clickbank (who process card/paypal payments) and ask for a refund/cancellation.

                      As others have mentioned, Long Tail Platinum is garbage. It freezes for KC and when scraping adwords, the 'Add your own keywords' function doesn't work half the time.

                      Time to get a refund...
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          • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
            Originally Posted by ajaxmike View Post

            They offer a 100% satisfaction guarantee. Ask for a refund.
            I already asked for a refund, but they contacted me and persuade me not to refund for a LTP university, I took LTPU but it is completely useless.
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  • Profile picture of the author DoubleOhDave
    Bought into this recently and can't believe the hype! It's a total dud - doesn't work and when I asked for a refund the next day, was told to go clean the IE cache - then they ignored my follow up request because it still doesn;t work right - why would a keyword tool give me results for Star Wars when I ask for stuff related to Cozy Mysteries???
    Come tomorrow I will be logging a PayPal dispute and doing a serious cull of my lists - I have had 3 marketers suggest this tool to me this week - obviously none of them actually use it, so time to say goodbye!
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  • Profile picture of the author faisalmaximus
    If anyone wants to sell his license of Long Tail Platinum please let me know, I will buy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tengalon
    It is a shame about LTP support because it is the best keyword research software bar none...if you do a lot of keyword research. The problem is that the developer, Spencer recognises this and instead of making more money out of this by given better support, he just act arrogant whenever you ask for a fix of something wrong. I know this because I had the same issue that everyone is complaining about when I first bought it and got a one line answer when I contacted support. Lucky for me I stuck with it and right now I will not swap it for anything else on the market, and I have most of them.

    Now why will I not swap it? Simple...the keyword competitiveness calculator. It is the best accurate measurement of keyword competiveness that I have seen so far. But that is not the beauty of it. It is the time that it saves me that is invaluable. It saves time because it gives you an absolute number. While most people are looking through pie chat and colour codes or trying to use their experience, you've done your keyword research and moved on to something else. The unfortunate thing is that you have to buy the platinum in order to see it in action. My advice will be that if you have time, know how to pick the right keywords the old fashioned way and don't do a lot of keyword research, save your money and get something else. Otherwise you will be using very outdated system in a modern environment.
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  • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
    I have LTP and upgraded to platinum version. However, after I found Majestic, I dump LTP. Majestic is much better for SEO. You can try it for free. https://majestic.com. It is also recommended by Mike from this forum. Seo Software that is worth it - Product and Services Reviews - Spartan Marketing Academy
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