Submission Works

by Dennisr32 261 replies
Has anyone tried this? Does it work?

Thanks
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      Originally Posted by EdVictor791 View Post

      Hi Dennis,

      This ad site has been doing really well for me since I joined them just over 4 months ago...

      Their software promotes your links through a bunch of different advertising mediums...I've been personally trying to contact each one of the new members I've received through their service to try and find out how they found my programs. I have been told article marketing sites, social media, You Tube, and Google search engine most commonly.

      The best part of this service I think, is the fact that they research your links before sending traffic, so they can generate targeted visitors tailored toward your offers.

      I have been pleased with the results I'm seeing and plan to continue using them.
      I plan on doing the same thing with any sales I make with SW..contact each new member to build some rapport and try to find out where exactly they found my site.

      Originally Posted by Marshallsbiz View Post

      I've heard quite a few people mention that they research your offers before sending traffic, and I really believe that plays a big part in getting better than average results in such a short period of time.
      I'm hoping for fast results but will be patient if necessary. Its comforting to know they research your offers before sending traffic because the more targeted the hits are the better.
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    I have noticed this program being promoted heavily on safelists and traffic exchanges over the past, say 6 weeks. As with most traffic sites, I joined with minimal expectations. Thought it couldn't be any worse than the response I get from some of the pricey solo ads I've been testing.

    They let you add 7 links at a time. I have a few Empower Network capture pages in there as well as some lists I'm building and a high converting CB offer. Very good response from the traffic. People are opting in at a impressive rate and I've even made a few sales.

    This is really a nice additional to my ad campaign for the price.
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      Originally Posted by cowloc View Post

      I have noticed this program being promoted heavily on safelists and traffic exchanges over the past, say 6 weeks. As with most traffic sites, I joined with minimal expectations. Thought it couldn't be any worse than the response I get from some of the pricey solo ads I've been testing.

      They let you add 7 links at a time. I have a few Empower Network capture pages in there as well as some lists I'm building and a high converting CB offer. Very good response from the traffic. People are opting in at a impressive rate and I've even made a few sales.

      This is really a nice additional to my ad campaign for the price.
      May I have the url for this service please?

      Rick
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      Originally Posted by cowloc View Post

      I have noticed this program being promoted heavily on safelists and traffic exchanges over the past, say 6 weeks. As with most traffic sites, I joined with minimal expectations. Thought it couldn't be any worse than the response I get from some of the pricey solo ads I've been testing.

      They let you add 7 links at a time. I have a few Empower Network capture pages in there as well as some lists I'm building and a high converting CB offer. Very good response from the traffic. People are opting in at a impressive rate and I've even made a few sales.

      This is really a nice additional to my ad campaign for the price.
      Thanks for that info cowloc.
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        Originally Posted by Phil Wilkinson View Post

        Thanks for that info cowloc.
        Hey cowloc, I am amazed that you are getting responses on the CB offers. I have some of the highest converting click bank offers on the site, I have tried both raw click bank links AND cloaked links, got a few sales a couple months ago and NOTHING since. With the same offers and others. As far as opt ins I am getting a few from a free give away page I have, but overall the response from submission works has dwindled to NO sales.. Lots' of traffic, but no sales. I do wish you the best with it though. It seems like they try to get conversions, but sometimes I think it's the luck of the draw.
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      Originally Posted by Marshallsbiz View Post

      I found this thread so I decided to join Submission Works myself to try it out.

      Ok, its been three hours since I input one affiliate link into the system and as of now have received 43 unique visits with 7 opting in for free.

      I am going to follow up with these people tomorrow and hopefully be able to close a few of them into sales

      Wish me luck!
      I would like to hear any updates you have on your results as I have heard so many good things about this ad site and am strongly considering joining up. Thanks
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            Originally Posted by tomtommarketing View Post

            Have you changed around your links much Marshall? I've found that I can drastically increase the conversion rates from Submission Works traffic by using split testing to narrow the links down to the top converting ones.

            I like how some people assume its all on the "traffic source" to make them the sales.. lol. Sure that's part of it but its up to US to insure that onces that traffic hits our pages it has the best possible chance of converting to a lead or sale.

            My account is due for renewal on Friday and I'll definitely keep it running for more testing. So far I've got way more than $60 worth of traffic in terms of leads and conversions.
            Hi Tom,

            How exactly are you split testing? Are you using software to do this or just comparing optin rates against each link to cut them down?

            Ya, definitely do your own research before joining ANYTHING. Much of what I find online is biased so you have to be careful. I read up on Submission Works for about 45 mins on blogs, reviews and forums before being confident of what I was getting into. Luckily SW is one of the good ad sources out there.
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                Originally Posted by tomtommarketing View Post

                Hey Nutrie,

                By the way. I like your username I assume you are Promoting Automatic Body by Nutrie? lol. I hear good things about them and hope your launch is going well. Aron Parkinson runs Nutrie correct?

                Anyways, what I've been doing to narrow down my best converting links is running 2 head to head. I compare my opt-ins/sales on the 2 and switch out the lower performer with a new link. I continue doing this until I'm comfortable I'm narrowed down my links to the top converters.

                By no means am I expecting Submission Works to be my "savior" in marketing. But if I can make even $61 from a $60 service I'm in the black am I not? Who wouldn't use something if they are turning a profit.

                My account renews on Friday as I've mentioned and I will surely let it renew. Submission Works traffic has brought in enough leads to warrant the $60 price tag alone, not to mention the handful of sales I've made.
                You bet! Nutrie is really growing. The main source of my leads are coming from SW so I'm really glad I found them. Hopefully this keeps up.
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      any other results regarding sw? follow ups etc?
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      Originally Posted by Marshallsbiz View Post

      I found this thread so I decided to join Submission Works myself to try it out.

      Ok, its been three hours since I input one affiliate link into the system and as of now have received 43 unique visits with 7 opting in for free.

      I am going to follow up with these people tomorrow and hopefully be able to close a few of them into sales

      Wish me luck!

      Good luck! I might want to try this for myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    I had actually wondered about it as well as I've seen it on various links for safelist emails. However, I guess with my niche, I'm not sure how effective it would be as most of these tools seem geared at internet marketing and what not. Usually, most of these types of tools don't fair as well in the hip hop community, not to say they all don't, but just like with safelists for example, it seems most so far are geared only at those looking to become internet marketers and to make quick money. May have to try a month to see if I can promote something else on it and if it helps convert a bit as well. Curious as to anyone else's thoughts or views on this program.
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      Originally Posted by Vishalicious View Post

      I can't begin to tell you guys how many of these ad software things I've tried. You'd think I've had learned my lesson by now lol.

      My brother in law is actually a friend of this "Brandon Wheeler's" (the guy who created the software) which is the only reason I even took the risk on yet another hypey offer like this.
      Joining was simple enough. Really nice to see a program with no countless OTO after OTO. They actually don't ask for anything more than the monthly membership fee. They also don't try to pitch you domains, hosting and additional support fees which is really nice as the software is hosted on the companies servers.

      They do limit the amounts of certain types of links through something they call a "saturation checker" which makes sense. I was able to get a couple tracking links in and was able to verify unique ips as well as a tonne of unique referral sources (no bot traffic or popunders etc)
      ROI? Impressive actually.

      Funds invested $60 for my first months membership fees. 12 day into my month: $136.23 profit - $60 monthly fee = $76.23 profit.Not bad, not bad. I have 6 of my allowed 7 links entered. Thinking about swapping a couple ones out to see if I can get even more sales before my first month is over.Their compensation plan is decent as well. Payout out 50% in commissions on 5 levels.. $10, $8, $6, $4, $2 all recurring. Promoting out is optional and not required at all.

      In my opinion Mr. Wheeler has a definite winner with this program. I'll update my progress before my account renews to let you know if its still producing results.

      Cheers!
      I also like the no "OTO" idea. These days it seems like everything has additional charges that we have to decide whether to accept or pass on in literally minutes.

      I join Submission Works from a recommendation from my Empower Network sponsor as it seems to be really gaining steam by promoting EN affiliate links. My optins rates are definitely higher than other ad sources I'm using and I've even netted a couple paid upgrades from them.

      I'm using bit.ly, budurl and trck.me to test the traffic and so far I'm pumped about this service.

      Back before Adwords canned all my listings I was paying around $1500 per month in PPC's. So a $60/month service that delivers even break-even results definitely has my attention.
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      • Profile picture of the author Genycis
        I'm going to guess the best things to promote with Submission Works would of course be internet marketing or traffic related products, am I right? Any of you all who used it, I'm sure something music related as with my businesses would get no steam, would I be right in assuming this? May give it a try for a month but not sure if it's going to do much for me.
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        • Profile picture of the author nutrie
          Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

          I'm going to guess the best things to promote with Submission Works would of course be internet marketing or traffic related products, am I right? Any of you all who used it, I'm sure something music related as with my businesses would get no steam, would I be right in assuming this? May give it a try for a month but not sure if it's going to do much for me.
          Hey Genycis,

          I'm not sure if it would be a great investment to promote a music site. Their traffic seems to be targeted more towards Internet Marketing and Business Opportunities and is converting very well for my links targeted to these markets.. but music? not too sure..

          Is your site promoting your band or something?
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          • Profile picture of the author Genycis
            Originally Posted by nutrie View Post

            Hey Genycis,

            I'm not sure if it would be a great investment to promote a music site. Their traffic seems to be targeted more towards Internet Marketing and Business Opportunities and is converting very well for my links targeted to these markets.. but music? not too sure..

            Is your site promoting your band or something?
            Thanks for the heads up on that one Nutrie, I appreciate it. I kinda figured it wouldn't be good at all. And you would be correct, I produce hip hop beats so I was considering trying it for my official hip hop beats website, but figured it wouldn't even come close to fitting into the equation. That's the only thing I hate about things like this, or like safelists too for example, is that it seems like a decent hit for traffic but only if it's related to internet marketing, teaching internet marketing, building traffic, or biz opp stuff. There's never anything that relates to a general set of markets of all kinds.

            That said, I may give it a whirl for a month to see what it can do with helping on my biz opp type website related to this product I had bought and have been promoting, to see if it works okay for it, or how promoting either blog posts I write related to internet marketing or affiliate marketing would work for it. Your thoughts?
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            • Profile picture of the author Dennisr32
              Okay I joined Submission Works. I put in my seven urls. It says it is actively promoting. How long does the "actively promoting" go on for. Also I used a couple of link shortner/trackers on a couple of the urls. Is that allowed?

              Thanks
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              • Profile picture of the author nutrie
                Originally Posted by Dennisr32 View Post

                Okay I joined Submission Works. I put in my seven urls. It says it is actively promoting. How long does the "actively promoting" go on for. Also I used a couple of link shortner/trackers on a couple of the urls. Is that allowed?

                Thanks
                Hey Dennis! The "Actively Promoting" status keeps going as long as your account remains active. I use trackers as well and according to support they are fine as long as they pass the saturation checker. There where a couple cloakers I couldn't get to pass but supposedly spots free up all the time for different types of links.
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        Originally Posted by nutrie View Post

        I also like the no "OTO" idea. These days it seems like everything has additional charges that we have to decide whether to accept or pass on in literally minutes.

        I join Submission Works from a recommendation from my Empower Network sponsor as it seems to be really gaining steam by promoting EN affiliate links. My optins rates are definitely higher than other ad sources I'm using and I've even netted a couple paid upgrades from them.

        I'm using bit.ly, budurl and trck.me to test the traffic and so far I'm pumped about this service.

        Back before Adwords canned all my listings I was paying around $1500 per month in PPC's. So a $60/month service that delivers even break-even results definitely has my attention.
        So you're actually having luck with this system huh? I joined Submission works and didn't have much luck after 3 weeks. I received 2 leads and like 141 clicks. I am also with Empower. I don't know if maybe it's saturated with Empower or what but how long did it take you to get a bunch of leads coming from it?
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        • Profile picture of the author nutrie
          dbowen017>> Sounds like you were starting to get results but pulled the plug too early. My EN sponsor told me to give it a month for the software to fully kick in and it sure has! My 2nd month stats are very impressive. I've started to cancel a few other ad services that are barely converting me as my money is far better spent on Submission Works.
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          • Profile picture of the author dbowen017
            Originally Posted by nutrie View Post

            dbowen017>> Sounds like you were starting to get results but pulled the plug too early. My EN sponsor told me to give it a month for the software to fully kick in and it sure has! My 2nd month stats are very impressive. I've started to cancel a few other ad services that are barely converting me as my money is far better spent on Submission Works.
            Ok well I guess I will go purchase it again and give it some time to really kick in thanks I appreciate it!
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            • Profile picture of the author dbowen017
              Update on Submission Works:

              Submission Works is amazing and it is working awesome!

              I was completely wrong about it and Im sure a lot of you can relate but I have been ripped off by one to many people out there on the internet and I thought that this was one of those but it is not it is 100% real and it works so check it out.

              I recommend this to anyone that is in the IM niche
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    • Originally Posted by Vishalicious View Post

      I can't begin to tell you guys how many of these ad software things I've tried. You'd think I've had learned my lesson by now lol.

      My brother in law is actually a friend of this "Brandon Wheeler's" (the guy who created the software) which is the only reason I even took the risk on yet another hypey offer like this.
      Joining was simple enough. Really nice to see a program with no countless OTO after OTO. They actually don't ask for anything more than the monthly membership fee. They also don't try to pitch you domains, hosting and additional support fees which is really nice as the software is hosted on the companies servers.

      They do limit the amounts of certain types of links through something they call a "saturation checker" which makes sense. I was able to get a couple tracking links in and was able to verify unique ips as well as a tonne of unique referral sources (no bot traffic or popunders etc)
      ROI? Impressive actually.

      Funds invested $60 for my first months membership fees. 12 day into my month: $136.23 profit - $60 monthly fee = $76.23 profit.Not bad, not bad. I have 6 of my allowed 7 links entered. Thinking about swapping a couple ones out to see if I can get even more sales before my first month is over.Their compensation plan is decent as well. Payout out 50% in commissions on 5 levels.. $10, $8, $6, $4, $2 all recurring. Promoting out is optional and not required at all.

      In my opinion Mr. Wheeler has a definite winner with this program. I'll update my progress before my account renews to let you know if its still producing results.

      Cheers!
      I joined Brandon Wheeler's "Submission Works" on Valentines day actually Was rushing to create my account as we had dinner reservations at 8:00pm lol

      Thanks for sharing your results.

      I am curious what offers you are promoting? I added in 7 of my top converting cloacked + tracked Empower Network capture pages and have got 34 responsive leads so far. I'd say pretty good for 5 days in. No paid sales yet from the traffic but I don't think its the traffic's fault as the leads are responsive.

      I have no doubts that I'll make more than my $60 back before the months over but as you have done, I'll surely post my results and ROI.

      I was half expecting a One Time Offer after forking out my $60 as well but to my surprise there was none!
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        Originally Posted by EmpowerNetwork2013 View Post

        I joined Brandon Wheeler's "Submission Works" on Valentines day actually Was rushing to create my account as we had dinner reservations at 8:00pm lol

        Thanks for sharing your results.

        I am curious what offers you are promoting? I added in 7 of my top converting cloacked + tracked Empower Network capture pages and have got 34 responsive leads so far. I'd say pretty good for 5 days in. No paid sales yet from the traffic but I don't think its the traffic's fault as the leads are responsive.

        I have no doubts that I'll make more than my $60 back before the months over but as you have done, I'll surely post my results and ROI.

        I was half expecting a One Time Offer after forking out my $60 as well but to my surprise there was none!
        Did you use custom capture pages or the EN company capture pages?

        I joined today and so far I've only received 8 hits total for all of my links.

        I'm not concerned because I did research before I joined and some people have reported that activity was slow for the first couple days and then they were getting opt ins.

        But I'm wondering what type of capture page you are using.

        Thanks
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        • Originally Posted by mclaughlin47 View Post

          Did you use custom capture pages or the EN company capture pages?

          I joined today and so far I've only received 8 hits total for all of my links.

          I'm not concerned because I did research before I joined and some people have reported that activity was slow for the first couple days and then they were getting opt ins.

          But I'm wondering what type of capture page you are using.

          Thanks
          Hey mclaughlin47,

          I'm using EN's provided capture pages.

          Send me a private message and I'll give you a hand
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            Originally Posted by EmpowerNetwork2013 View Post

            Hey mclaughlin47,

            I'm using EN's provided capture pages.

            Send me a private message and I'll give you a hand
            Just did... thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author RUGI
      Hi there - I hear all saying how good this product is but I don't really get how it works. You say it promotes your links. Be it your sites or your splash pages where you promote products etc. I would assume. However, you then go on to say the payout on commissions is 50%???? DONT GET it. IF IT IS A LEAD GENERATOR FOR my PRODUCTS OR WEBSITE OR SPLASH PAGE I SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE SALES OR HAVE OPTIN'S based on what I am selling. IF I SELL SOMETHING FOR $10 AND IT SELLS IT SELLS FOR $10 - SO DEFINITELY DON'T GET THIS CAN SOMEBODY KINDLY EXPLAIN?

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      Originally Posted by Vishalicious View Post

      I can't begin to tell you guys how many of these ad software things I've tried. You'd think I've had learned my lesson by now lol.

      My brother in law is actually a friend of this "Brandon Wheeler's" (the guy who created the software) which is the only reason I even took the risk on yet another hypey offer like this.
      Joining was simple enough. Really nice to see a program with no countless OTO after OTO. They actually don't ask for anything more than the monthly membership fee. They also don't try to pitch you domains, hosting and additional support fees which is really nice as the software is hosted on the companies servers.

      They do limit the amounts of certain types of links through something they call a "saturation checker" which makes sense. I was able to get a couple tracking links in and was able to verify unique ips as well as a tonne of unique referral sources (no bot traffic or popunders etc)
      ROI? Impressive actually.

      Funds invested $60 for my first months membership fees. 12 day into my month: $136.23 profit - $60 monthly fee = $76.23 profit.Not bad, not bad. I have 6 of my allowed 7 links entered. Thinking about swapping a couple ones out to see if I can get even more sales before my first month is over.Their compensation plan is decent as well. Payout out 50% in commissions on 5 levels.. $10, $8, $6, $4, $2 all recurring. Promoting out is optional and not required at all.

      In my opinion Mr. Wheeler has a definite winner with this program. I'll update my progress before my account renews to let you know if its still producing results.

      Cheers!
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  • Originally Posted by Dennisr32 View Post

    Has anyone tried this? Does it work?

    Thanks
    I have to say I have my doubts about this product. Reading member posts, I can't help thinking that it more than likely doesn't work. After reading quite a few reviews it's hard to make the call adn personally speaking I don't think its worth spending £59 per month to find out. What I can't get my head around is, if anyone had a unique piece of code that was generating mega amounts of sales and profits, why would anyone sell it :confused:

    ...because I cetainly wouldn't!
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    I can't find it, I would like to try it.
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  • Profile picture of the author milla04
    I am slightly suspicious against a few basis comments here. Most of comments have only created their account this month of feb.

    Spam Alarm bells!!!

    Do your research first don't follow some of these bog commentors.

    I am testing it right now, I have been using it for 2 weeks. If you have seen my video part one, the results are not too impressive if you ask me. I have 4 different landing pages non of which are nothing to do with EN.

    I am still going to either run it for 4 weeks or 8 weeks. I will let you know my results.
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    • Profile picture of the author hbhanot
      You got it.. This is what going on here... I feel it same. $60 will be good enough of for 200 clicks solo and result will be in one day rather than waiting for one month...
      Originally Posted by milla04 View Post

      I am slightly suspicious against a few basis comments here. Most of comments have only created their account this month of feb.

      Spam Alarm bells!!!

      Do your research first don't follow some of these bog commentors.

      I am testing it right now, I have been using it for 2 weeks. If you have seen my video part one, the results are not too impressive if you ask me. I have 4 different landing pages non of which are nothing to do with EN.

      I am still going to either run it for 4 weeks or 8 weeks. I will let you know my results.
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      • Profile picture of the author jimzimm
        I don't like your inference that I am not telling the truth in my posts about my experience, and minor success, with SW. Just for some background, if you look at my posts, I was skeptical when I joined, but I figured there was very little to lose with the low cost of the monthly subscription. I am also a War Room member with a join date of December 2008. I don't have a lot of posts, but I do have a great deal of IM experience.

        As of right now, I have made commissions through Clickbank totaling $89.44 from 3 sales in 2 weeks. I thought I had made a 4th sale, but realized that it came from an old promotion, not from SW.

        This is not a lot of money. But, if I am able to keep up my current sales pace, I would net approximately $120 in my first month with SW. I also feel that I am getting an idea of what kind of products and niches work with the traffic that they are promoting to, and because of that I feel that there is a good chance that I can increase my sales. This will give me some money to test other promotions and products. Not bad for entering a few affiliate links into their system.

        I understand your feeling that you can get a better response from solo ads, and trust me, if I could make money every time I sent a solo ad, I would be sending them every day. But what I don't get is you questioning the ethics of the people who have posted positive results with SW. Have you tried it?

        Just so I can offer you "proof" of my sales, I am attaching a screen shot of the sales I have made from Clickbank using SW. I had to chop up the screen shot to make it readable, and I also blacked out the product names.

        Originally Posted by hbhanot View Post

        You got it.. This is what going on here... I feel it same. $60 will be good enough of for 200 clicks solo and result will be in one day rather than waiting for one month...
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    • Originally Posted by EdVictor791 View Post

      I'm close to 5 months in using Submission Works and have a few thoughts I'd like to add about my experience.

      My first month results after I first joined were very hit and miss. I started getting quite a few visitors right off the bat but only a couple conversions during my initial month. I then contemplated giving up and moving on... I began googling SW reviews to see if there was anything I was doing wrong or something I could do differently to improve my conversion rate. Well, I read quite a few blog reviews on this ad service and I learned that what you promote has a significant impact on the results you can expect, so I decided to change up my links being promoted and thankfully my results improved immediately. From time to time I tweek my campaign based on traffic rates, amount of optins, as well as paid upgrades I get. If you do that plus personally follow up on your leads, then from my experience, this program will reward you significantly.

      I really believe there is no such thing as a free lunch, but I do believe that results are there if you help yourself.
      Personally following up with your leads is a great idea to find out how they found you online.

      They way I'm confirming that my leads are coming from Submission Works is by isolating certain capture pages too "only" Submission Works. So basically I don't promote these pages via any other mediums, so when leads come in I know that Submission Works was responsible.
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    Hadn't heard of this program before, but from the positive reviews that it is getting on this thread, I am going to have to check it out!
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    So far - 24hrs - no hits whatsoever on any of the 7 URL's I am promoting - will keep you updated
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    I actually decided to take the plunge last night given I had a couple of beats sold so I figured, take that money to invest to see how it works out.

    So far, on one of the links, I already have 42 hits, and on another, I have a few as well. I'll be playing around with some links and testing it out to see how it works out. Hopefully I generate some sales from it that exceed the $60 and will look forward to using it again next month as well. Have to take a chance sometimes... so crossing my fingers that this chance I took will net me at least $120 from it. Will post back on here again...
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    Thanks for your update Vishalicious. Definitely appreciated. I'm guessing this program works best with using opt in pages versus pages that have direct buy to them, correct? I'm wondering the impact it has on both ends of it.

    I've been only using it for 2 days so far though, although I've already seen well over 100 visitors from it to the training program I'm promoting, as well as several hits to another product I'm promoting as well. I'll continue seeing how it goes as well though.

    Wondered though if this program was best geared towards biz opp type internet marketing more so than affiliate marketing or so forth, and if it's best served only to squeeze page opt ins rather than actual direct sales or purchases sorta like people say about safelist marketing.

    Thanks again for your feedback though. Looking forward to seeing what it does for me this month with hopes I'm choosing the best links to build money from it, at least more than $60 to see a profit with it. lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author lifetime
    I think this program is bogus, and it reminds me too much of another bogus traffic program called All Inclusive Ads.

    Funny thing about the two programs...

    As soon as I started seeing Submission-works being promoted on some email lists that I use, I stopped seeing ads for All Inclusive Ads.

    Even the ads themselves were formatted the same, but the names of the promoters curiously changed.

    Also, take notice of the dates that those giving glowing reviews joined this forum.

    And if you do a search on google for this program, you will see they were well prepared in advance for anyone looking for a review of it.

    It is unlikely you will EVER find an honest review, except from a couple of long-time warriors who bought into it and will post their results here on this thread.

    I almost bought it myself. Not because I believe it will work...I don't. I only wanted to test it and give a review, but I really don't feel like wasting $60, so I will simply keep an eye on this thread for those who WILL post and HONEST review.
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    • Profile picture of the author Genycis
      Originally Posted by lifetime View Post

      I think this program is bogus, and it reminds me too much of another bogus traffic program called All Inclusive Ads.

      Funny thing about the two programs...

      As soon as I started seeing Submission-works being promoted on some email lists that I use, I stopped seeing ads for All Inclusive Ads.

      Even the ads themselves were formatted the same, but the names of the promoters curiously changed.

      Also, take notice of the dates that those giving glowing reviews joined this forum.

      And if you do a search on google for this program, you will see they were well prepared in advance for anyone looking for a review of it.

      It is unlikely you will EVER find an honest review, except from a couple of long-time warriors who bought into it and will post their results here on this thread.

      I almost bought it myself. Not because I believe it will work...I don't. I only wanted to test it and give a review, but I really don't feel like wasting $60, so I will simply keep an eye on this thread for those who WILL post and HONEST review.
      I'm hoping to see some good results with it myself but completely understand where you're coming from. I had hesitated to try it and finally gave in. I don't know if I'll try it longer than 30 days unless I see a sale or two or three come my way. I am honestly seeing a bit more traffic to my sites from it so that's good, though safelists bring me traffic too, I just haven't converted a thing from them as well so I don't know what kind of traffic is generated from this program exactly. However, if I do make a sale or two from it, I'll be sure to post onto this thread about it. I hope I do, but we shall see.
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      • Profile picture of the author Arif Burr
        Ok, this is obviously targeted to newbies who don't know any better.

        When it comes to advertising and traffic, no $60 link-rotating software (or "piece of code") is going to change your business.

        I highly doubt they have access to advertising platforms and traffic no Guru is already using and talking about....and open it up to the masses (newbies) for $60 per month.

        You have to take control of your own advertising and marketing and know exactly where your traffic is coming from and the ability to control your spending and your campaigns. Use that $60 and split test your campaigns and build your list.

        Don't just advertise capture and sales pages, but market yourself. The days of making tons of money without people knowing and trusting you first are pretty much over. If it was that easy, everyone would be doing it.

        I don't post often, and I'm no guru but I'm successful in my network marketing business.

        I've been spammed with this Submission Works nonsense almost everyday, so I'm just adding my two cents...

        Be smart and stop looking for the "secret". There isn't one.
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    I actually have two links for the same product on a split test and the program I'm promoting has a built in tracking to it. I actually just got a sale from one of the two links I'm split testing and this is the 2nd or 3rd day that I've been using the Submission Works program right now. I'm not jumping the gun to think it's a cure all, and I do agree with you Arif in what you said. I actually joined it more to see how it works in terms of building more and more traffic to my sites from different sources, I don't believe there's anything wrong with that. I decided to take a chance as there's nothing wrong with doing so. But so far it's not a bad piece, and if I can manage to get a few more conversions before my 30 days is up from it that builds me more than enough from it, I'll be writing up my own review of it and screen shots and going from there. I agree with what you said though, the days are long gone in terms of just trying to get sales. You do have to build networking and trust. I've been doing that for some years though with my hip hop beats biz and some other minor things here and there, so I just thought to give Submission Works a spin to see what it would do. Crossing my fingers on it... and pushing forward with the testing.

    Tom tom, you said it right there... invest $60, make even $61 or preferably at least $120 from it. I'll continue posting my results as well... I have two links on one product split testing them both, and then a link or two to my blog that I started, and going forward from there to see what it may do. Stay tuned...
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        Originally Posted by Marshallsbiz View Post

        I also got my first few sales right after joining SW. Its been two weeks since I signed up and all my programs seem to be converting well, so based on that I will leave my account as is.
        I feel where you're coming from Marshall, I actually also tried another link and funny enough was when I checked it today, it converted too! I'm very shocked at how this has been working so far, so oddly enough, a moment ago and now, I've almost made back my $60 for the month already and it's not even 3 full days for me yet. I'll test another link or two but so far so good. Crossing fingers as to what else may come from it. I'll be gladly renewing next month if it keeps up at this route! Lol
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        • Profile picture of the author cowloc
          Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

          I feel where you're coming from Marshall, I actually also tried another link and funny enough was when I checked it today, it converted too! I'm very shocked at how this has been working so far, so oddly enough, a moment ago and now, I've almost made back my $60 for the month already and it's not even 3 full days for me yet. I'll test another link or two but so far so good. Crossing fingers as to what else may come from it. I'll be gladly renewing next month if it keeps up at this route! Lol
          Inspiring report Genycis! It's nice to hit that break-even point. It's all profit from here. Were your conversions from CB products? I'm promoting a few CB links and notice very impressive conversion rates as well.
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          • Profile picture of the author serendipitous1
            Originally Posted by Marshallsbiz View Post

            I've heard quite a few people mention that they research your offers before sending traffic, and I really believe that plays a big part in getting better than average results in such a short period of time.
            That is a neat little perk I must admit, as there are soo many different types of programs and offers out there (never could understand how a one size fits all type of traffic site could work without researching your offers first)

            I just joined up to Submission Works and I'm glad to know my links will get a bit of "preferential treatment" before being released throughout the web.
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          • Profile picture of the author Genycis
            Originally Posted by tomtommarketing View Post

            Cool stuff Genycis. What type of offers are you promoting if you don't mind me asking. I got a sale this morning from a link have have in the backoffice that teaches beginners how to build their own list. My guess would be the target audience is newbies so anything related to that would sell well.
            The offers I tested was my music site just to see if anything came out of it which I doubted. Oddly enough, yesterday, I had a $32 sale for my hip hop beats site, but I don't know if it came from Submission Works as there would be no way for me to tell from that one since I don't have a tracker on it for the sale. BUT, if that one DID come from Submission Works, then it's pretty much paid for itself now and anything else is profit from it going forward.

            I also did a couple of links to split test the same biz opportunity so that was 3 total to which one of those two links generated me a commission from it. I then did one link for the same biz opp but on a website that I created as a review for it. So that was 4. And then finally, I did one of my blog posts for my internet marketing blog, and two more on clickbank products to which I made a commission from one of them for a lead capture type product.

            I've been testing a weight loss product as of late and it's getting a few hits as well, not many but still some so maybe something will come out of that.

            I had wondered in All Inclusive Ads since it seems to use a similar format but from what I've read, the reviews for that one didn't fair out nearly as well. So I'm hoping Submission Works continues doing well. It's definitely building more traffic my way so that's a plus as well. I need to get some more blog posts going and use it for my blog posts. I really hope it does generate me even if an extra $120 for the month, that'd be great and I'd invest a 2nd month in it to see how it pans out. I wish they allowed an extra link slot for an additional $5 or $10 bucks though as an option if we chose. lol. Sorta hard picking 7 links and not knowing how long to leave them for.

            I'm wondering how long I should generally keep a link there before I opt to change it up a bit. I had tried a Squidoo link of mine but that didn't get much traffic at all for the day so I just changed it out. Crossing my fingers to see a few more conversions at least before it's all said and done for the month, but so far even the two commissions that I made honestly shocked me (3 if my beats sale counted), especially since they happened so early on.
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    @ Cowloc, thanks a lot. I'm very close to break even point so far and it's been from a CB product, and another program that I had joined and am promoting as an affiliate now that I got conversions on. Looking forward to seeing what else it does. It has me eager now to see what other products I could promote with it. I do have my music website on there as a test though I don't anticipate it doing anything at all... still, have to test it out to see if maybe I do get a few sales from it as well in time. But so far so good.

    @Marshall, I can believe that as I was surprised to see the CB sale I made from it today and the other product affiliate sale as well, both products of which are of no relation to each other whatsoever. Wish there were 2 more link slots, 9 would be great. LOL!
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    just signed up today for my biz...we will see....some people say wait 2 months so i will, other than that, i have to admit that the recommended advertising links that's in the website are poor quality, such as rainbow marketing, all inclusive ads, and and just click 6; which all seem to be equivelant to safelist blasting or traffic exchanges or "list jumpers"... not sure if i should look at this as a reflection of the actual product. i have put up 7 squeeze pages that direct towards my biz so i will let you know
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  • Profile picture of the author teddys31
    quick follow up on submission works:

    already getting a few visitors on all my sites within a few hours...however one thing that concerns me is that based on my tracking, 80% are coming from one ip. address. should i be nervous? also the actual referring website my tracker provides are from other IM/MMO sales pages....i'm a bit confused how this is actually working? any help would be much appreciated.
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      Nevermind, I figured out how the traffic is driven...traffic exchanges and list exchanges....so basically if i were to follow that strategy...they do the clicking and exchanging for me in return for my website to be promoted..so an automated way to get visitors from list and traffic exchanges.... not sure how i feel about that but we shall see with the results...because by the way...no refunds unless within the first 24 hours without adding links to the service.......YEA!
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    • Profile picture of the author serendipitous1
      Originally Posted by Vishalicious View Post

      Genycis - I'm testing optin pages, doorway pages as well as the raw links. They all seem to do very well. Glad to hear you are getting visitors and even made a sale so quick. I'm playing with difference price points as well. A couple of the offers that are selling very well in Submission Works for me are around the $50 mark. Today I added a couple offers that are quite a bit higher at around $200 and I'm going to see how that goes.
      Let us know how your higher ticket items do in the system, thanks.

      As for my results, its only been a few days since I signed on but the traffic has began to flow and I have a few free optins to report but no paid sales as of yet :p
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    Definitely keep us posted on your results Vishalicious... sounds good. I'll be doing the same as well on my end. Testing a few non internet marketing related links and what not as well to see how it goes. I had wondered if All Inclusive Ads was also worth giving a chance to given the format sounds very similar to Submission Works but at less a month. Not sure of what people think of that one though. Hoping to have more conversions to post a new blog posting about. Will keep you posted.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lanx
    2 weeks in with tracking i'm averaging 20-30 hits per link, anyone else confirm?
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      Originally Posted by Lanx View Post

      2 weeks in with tracking i'm averaging 20-30 hits per link, anyone else confirm?
      Ya, I'm around there too for each of my 7 links
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  • Profile picture of the author Lanx
    anyone else? more data like this then we can see if they basically just serve 150 to 200 hits per account per day, or even if ppl choose to use less links, do then those links get more hits?

    i mean of course it wouldn't really make much of a difference, if they went on an account basis, then you could just have one link (if you only wanted to promote one campaign)

    but if they segregate hits to by url, i guess you could just have all 7urls pointing to the same link too
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    So far my traffic as of late has dipped down a bit from what I've been noticing. No other commissions or sales as of yet so I'm still waiting to see what it does. Hoping to see at least one or two more before my 30 days ends. Crossing fingers, will keep you posted.
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    im going to give it a try and post my results here later.
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    Well, just wanted to give a brief update. I had another commission come through on another Clickbank product I'm promoting with Submission Works. So that makes so far, 2 commissions (that I'm crossing fingers won't be reversed later on), and a biz opp commission that I had made and a hip hop beat sale that I'm still not sure may have come from Submission Works or not, but even without that one, that's the 3 sales so far that I've made from it and I have roughly 21 days left before considering renewal for one more month or ending it. Will keep you posted.
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    damn, lots of new accounts praising the product. ppl that just joined in Feb. I bet its teh same person for each account, just like in the safelist blast promoting about this product, looks like from different users, but same email swipe, even the same link (in the body).

    Mod, might need to investigate these accounts.
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      Lol, well I'm definitely not a new account on the forum here. I'm roughly halfway through my first month of it now. I've had a few conversions so far but now waiting to see if any more come through. I'll continue with my update on it and whether or not I'll renew a month. I'm going to also test out All Inclusive Ads which I just opted for a moment ago and will also provide insight on that as well.
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    3weeks in, i get nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    I still have some time left before hitting my 1st month with it, but so far not so bad, though I'm noticing with some links, that the traffic is generating a bit less with some days as they pass. Not sure what to make of that exactly.

    That said, I'm trying All Inclusive Ads right now and I actually had to email Support as it seems that I'm not even getting close to half the traffic that I'm getting from Submission Works. It's barely generating me hits at all so far, some of which are the same products that I'm promoting in Submission Works and All Inclusive Ads. I'm not sure if All Inclusive Ads is just failing now or what, but I guess time will tell on that one. Will keep you all posted as I continue gaining more findings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hagar
    OK - so I have been using SW for 2 weeks now, and getting lots of hits, BUT NOT 1 SINGLE PERSON HAS FILLED IN AN OPTIN FORM - nada, nothing , zilch. - and that includes Empower Network Optin pages - Now if I did not get sales, Ok !

    But not a single optin - give me a break !

    This in my opinion is a whole load of horse manure.

    I have way better results (anything is better than nothing) from plain old safe-lists (free)

    No wonder they do not have a useable refund policy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    I think it may vary with each person, though I know many seem to be promoting every kind of EN blog post they've ever created on Submission Works too so I'm sure that one may be a bit more saturated. I just promote a few links every few days so far. I've not made any more sales so far as of late, but I'm still testing them out and seeing what happens... I'm still getting traffic to the links that I do put up with it though. As far as AIA, I'm getting some hits but they said their traffic is done via frames and so not all trackers and stat counters pick up every single trace of traffic from them. Hmmm... not sure, but I'm seeing some hits here and there though with Submission Works, the traffic is more. They are both bringing me traffic to my internet marketing blog and I'm definitely seeing that people are clicking on my affiliate links from my blog too, so that's a plus for me since I'm really only putting the main URL for the blog on my Submission Works and AIA now and I'm seeing the traffic spread out to different posts on my blog. Will keep you all posted still as to what things look like the closer i get to the end of my 30 days.
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    • Profile picture of the author serendipitous1
      Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

      Will keep you all posted still as to what things look like the closer i get to the end of my 30 days.
      Hi Genycis, I am wondering if you have any new updates to report. You're results are very encouraging to newbies such as myself
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  • Profile picture of the author cowloc
    I'm getting quite a few leads and even a few sales this month with Submission Works. Overall my ROI is amazing vs other comparable ad services/programs. Worth every penny in my opinion.

    Earlier this month I bought a $398 Bronze package from CPC broker (search the forum for reviews, decent enough feedback from warriors) My results were very disappointing and I will not be using them again. Barely any leads and 0 sales. That price could have bought me almost 7 months of a Submission Works account.

    Will update as the month of March progresses.
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    • Originally Posted by cowloc View Post

      I'm getting quite a few leads and even a few sales this month with Submission Works. Overall my ROI is amazing vs other comparable ad services/programs. Worth every penny in my opinion.

      Earlier this month I bought a $398 Bronze package from CPC broker (search the forum for reviews, decent enough feedback from warriors) My results were very disappointing and I will not be using them again. Barely any leads and 0 sales. That price could have bought me almost 7 months of a Submission Works account.

      Will update as the month of March progresses.
      I unfortunately wasted $$$ on CPC Broker as well. Its heavily recommended within the EN community. I imagine because it does work on "some" level and if enough people use it EN does certainly grow but the individual members do foot the bill of the high CPC prices. Thankfully I opted for the $200 package instead of anything higher.

      My Submission Works account renews in 2 days and I will be surely using it for another month.

      I'm still getting quite a few leads for EN and I've converted enough sales to pay for my fee and turn a profit. I've also changed out 3 of my EN capture pages for Pure Leverage pages and this seems to be converting very well with the traffic.

      I was on Skype last night with my EN sponsor and he did a screenshare of his results from SW and they are even more impressive than mine. Mind you he has created his own capture pages which he may (hopefully) be sharing with me.

      Also the traffic still is coming in from primarily USA/Canada which I like to see from a variety of sources.

      I may considering promoting my SW affiliate link next month now that I have verified the service is legit. At the moment I only have referred 2 people that are in EN under me and it sure keeps them motivated to see some leads coming in that they can work and don't have to pay an arm and a leg for.
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        Originally Posted by EmpowerNetwork2013 View Post

        I unfortunately wasted $$$ on CPC Broker as well. Its heavily recommended within the EN community. I imagine because it does work on "some" level and if enough people use it EN does certainly grow but the individual members do foot the bill of the high CPC prices. Thankfully I opted for the $200 package instead of anything higher.

        My Submission Works account renews in 2 days and I will be surely using it for another month.

        I'm still getting quite a few leads for EN and I've converted enough sales to pay for my fee and turn a profit. I've also changed out 3 of my EN capture pages for Pure Leverage pages and this seems to be converting very well with the traffic.

        I was on Skype last night with my EN sponsor and he did a screenshare of his results from SW and they are even more impressive than mine. Mind you he has created his own capture pages which he may (hopefully) be sharing with me.

        Also the traffic still is coming in from primarily USA/Canada which I like to see from a variety of sources.

        I may considering promoting my SW affiliate link next month now that I have verified the service is legit. At the moment I only have referred 2 people that are in EN under me and it sure keeps them motivated to see some leads coming in that they can work and don't have to pay an arm and a leg for.
        SW seems to be a great way to promote Pure Leverage. I have my link as one of the 7 and I've gotten a nice amount of conversions. Keep us posted on if you can retain them and I will do the same.
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            Originally Posted by Vishalicious View Post

            Ya, 3 more Pure Leverage signups with the past 12 hours. I imagine any new quality offer that hasn't been over promoted would convert better. I'm testing a few others in Submission Works and will let you know if I find that converts as well as PL is
            Vishalicious, how many links do you have set on SW? I have 5 different PL Capture page links set to all 7 of the available slots. I have only been receiving maybe 10 or so clicks per day on average for all of them combined and no leads certainly no signups yet.
            Would you please provide your plan of action concerning this. I would deeply appreciate I find it hard to believe that the vast divergence of results is just mere happenstance.
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          • Profile picture of the author cowloc
            Originally Posted by Vishalicious View Post

            Ya, 3 more Pure Leverage signups with the past 12 hours. I imagine any new quality offer that hasn't been over promoted would convert better. I'm testing a few others in Submission Works and will let you know if I find that converts as well as PL is
            I'm curious as well how many links you have in there. I Joined Pure Leverage a couple days ago and have one of my 7 slots filled with a Pure Leverage link. No signups yet but I have got a couple clickbank sales over the last 2 days from Submission Works which I am very pleased with.
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    • Profile picture of the author Willmarathon
      Originally Posted by cowloc View Post

      I'm getting quite a few leads and even a few sales this month with Submission Works. Overall my ROI is amazing vs other comparable ad services/programs. Worth every penny in my opinion.

      Earlier this month I bought a $398 Bronze package from CPC broker (search the forum for reviews, decent enough feedback from warriors) My results were very disappointing and I will not be using them again. Barely any leads and 0 sales. That price could have bought me almost 7 months of a Submission Works account.

      Will update as the month of March progresses.
      I am glad I put off spending money ,the Basic Package for $197,on promoting
      EN with CPCBroker . I bought a MasterResell Rights package for 3 financial trading courses instead. I think that if you use either SubmissionWorks or CPCBroker for something other than EN you can get half-way decent results. But I have seen many absolutely bad results posted by other people on Facebook and review sites for SubmissionWorks, so I am reluctant to use that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hagar
    I have spoken to a number of marketers on different forums, and all who have tried "SUBMISSION WORKS" have all had the same results as me - NOTHING !

    I personally am a little dubious about the glowing reports (only on this forum) from a handful of marketers.

    None of the marketers that I have been in contact with have received any leads whatsoever.

    Keep in mind that WF rates high in the serps, so it would be in the owners of SW's interests to have these great reviews on the first page of Google.

    Also - take note of the join dates, and the dates of the first posts of some of these great reviews.

    My personal opinion is that SW is a scam - "another Instant Cash Plugin"

    What burns me the most, is that I wasted my money on this "submission works scam " after reading the first few posts.
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    • Profile picture of the author markdsullivan
      I just joined yesterday and all of my links have like 5 unique visits but 60+ hits. Has anyone else experienced this?

      Thanks,

      Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author Buildyourbiz
      Originally Posted by Vishalicious View Post

      I have personally chatted about Submission Works with 6 members that I have been sharing marketing advise with for years. Their response is very similar to mine. High opt-in rates and more than enough in sales to cover the $60 month fee. Safe to say SW is a winner if you have decent offers.
      This past weekend I logged 2 sales confirmed from Submission Works traffic. Nearly enough to cover my monthly fee just from 2 days. Will keep testing of course but as for now I can't see any reason to cancel this service.
      I joined Submission Works 3 days ago and no sales yet but am hopeful. I believe the programs I'm promoting through them are in a prime position for growth right now and include 2 click bank offers that are in the top 10.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lanx
    done testing, it's junk traffic, not renewing. too bad you can't get a refund for a junky program.
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  • Profile picture of the author serendipitous1
    Hi everyone, quick update for you all here. I'm 2 weeks in and I just today received my "first" paid upgrade into my program from submission works traffic earning me just over the cost of my membership YAY!
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    I need to write up another blog post for the 3rd week or so into Submission Works. It's been good so far to me... not making me thousands or anything, but it's actually helped me get a few clickbank commissions on some products that I promoted in it, some Internet Marketing related, and some self help or weight loss and so on.

    That said, I also got a commission frorm All Inclusive Ads oddly enough, though the results with Submission Works has been better to me than AIA. I need to get my auto responder set up on my internet marketing blog though so I can see how it works with getting sign ups and leads. I may try them both for another month after and see if it replicates what I've seen so far with them.

    Will keep you posted. And trust and believe, I'm not a "glowing report" for it... if it sucked, I'd be posting up here to mention that. I don't want to promote it if it didn't work for me. I've not earned a commission for the program itself yet, but I am focused more on seeing what it does and posting the blog posts on my blog. I would post the link here for my blog posts so far, but I'm not trying to get in trouble for advertising something that's simply a blog post for me on the results I'm seeing with it. Will keep you posted on the results.

    So far, from what I've seen with it, I can't say it's junk traffic in that I made some sales from it. And honestly not sure if it did or not but I've had an additional sale or two to my hip hop beats site too from new prospects I've not dealt with before. AIA made me a commission of roughly $22 bucks so it's near break even point. Submission works made me two $25 commissions, and a few clickbank sales that total nearly $100 in itself.. not too bad so far. Hoping to get a few more before the month officially comes to an end.
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    • Profile picture of the author serendipitous1
      Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

      I need to write up another blog post for the 3rd week or so into Submission Works. It's been good so far to me... not making me thousands or anything, but it's actually helped me get a few clickbank commissions on some products that I promoted in it, some Internet Marketing related, and some self help or weight loss and so on.
      You should totally do a youtube video showing your results Genycis

      I've been signed up to Submission Works for just over two weeks myself and just got my second paid sale which pumps me up :p

      I've also been hearing a heck of a lot of good things about Pure Leverage, so I think I might join that one and start promoting it with one of my seven SW add slots (I will remove one of the blogs I am currently promoting with SW as it is not capable of generating any income directly)
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      • Profile picture of the author Genycis
        Originally Posted by serendipitous1 View Post

        You should totally do a youtube video showing your results Genycis

        I've been signed up to Submission Works for just over two weeks myself and just got my second paid sale which pumps me up :p

        I've also been hearing a heck of a lot of good things about Pure Leverage, so I think I might join that one and start promoting it with one of my seven SW add slots (I will remove one of the blogs I am currently promoting with SW as it is not capable of generating any income directly)
        Thanks for the words Serendipitous, and glad to hear you got another sale as well! I was never great with talking into videos so I've never gone that route with it. But so far so good. I'm planning to do my blog post and I've already taken a screenshot of my Clickbank showing the commissions that I made from some of the items I used in Submission Works.

        I thought about Pure Leverage but I know that opp is probably saturated, and given the need to pay monthly for it, was another thing I'm iffy about.

        I'm hoping to write an ebook and then use Submission Works to see if I can get my own sales on it.... not to charge a lot for an ebook but to see what it does. Curious on both Submission Works and AIA.

        So far I've profited with Submission Works, but AIA is still in need of a few bucks to cross over the break even point and into profit. But I've only been on AIA for about a week or so. Crossing my fingers. I changed several links up on both so hoping to see some more sales come through this weekend or into next week.

        I'm still wondering about some of these other ones though if they're really any good, such as Red Hot Mailer, or Rainbow Marketing, or INeedtraffic, VisitorShark, and others like it. I'm curious to try but not with expectations that they'll work.. but I still am hesitant on any of those. lol
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    • Profile picture of the author lobo22
      After reading your commends about Submission Works I decided to join to check it out myself. After seeing results I'll let you know.
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      A system where I started with ONLY $7. It tought me to market. Pays 100% commissions, provides all the tools a marketer needs. The upgrade guarantees profits with a

      I NEVER lost any commissions!
      Now I get paid monthly doing nothing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Genycis
        Originally Posted by lobo22 View Post

        After reading your commends about Submission Works I decided to join to check it out myself. After seeing results I'll let you know.
        Hope you have some success with it as well. If you're promoting Clickbank Products with it, I'd say to try to find a good link shortener (not tinyurl as it won't let you use it) instead of the long Clickbank links. I used IBOToolbox and joined them for free and used their shortener.

        Hopefully you earn something or two from it as well. Can't say I'm trying to sell you the product as I'm not even using any affiliate links to send you to. lol. My experiences that I've posted on here are simply to express that so far, for me, it's been pretty decent at working to make me some money and more. Now I've not made $4,000+ or anything with it (I wish), but even the fact that I made more than I paid for the first month is a good thing. I'd gladly pay a $60 investment if I know and see that I will make even if it's only a $20 profit each month, it's still more money being made than being put in. Lol.

        Best of success to you. Hope it works out for you as well. I recommend keeping the same links on there for a few days, maybe 4 or 5, and then changing out links that you see aren't doing anything for you. I've changed out all of my links periodically so far. Just my experiences though so far.
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          • Profile picture of the author Genycis
            Originally Posted by tomtommarketing View Post

            Hey Genycis,

            What CB price points are selling well for you with Submission Works? As I mentioned in my last post I got a conversion for a $197 offer and because of that I'm going to keep testing higher priced offers from $99-$200. I've got really good results from products around the $30-$50 range from SW but am thinking about doing some experimenting Just curious if you don't mind sharing.
            Sure Tom Tom. So far, the main things I've tested were marketing tools though I also tested a weight loss product or two and made a conversion with it. I've mainly done 30 - 50 dollar items, but the priciest one I've done so far was $97 I believe, which netted me a nice little $65 commission from it as well.

            I've tried a few higher priced items but didn't get anything from them at all in terms of Clickbank. I had some hits to it, but nothing so far. I'm going to try a few others though as well.

            As far as All Inclusive Ads, I've only made one commission from it so far which almost covers the $29.95 price. I may try it one more month after to see if their claim of traffic increasing the more you're with them works and I get more commissions. Otherwise, I may say adios to them. So far, Submission Works has netted me decently, so I'm wanting to set up my autoresponder on my blog site now and try to test how opting in works as well by offering a free ebook or something in exchange. I'm going to try to see what I can do, but so far, Submission Works has already earned me more than two $59.95 payments, so I've already recouped this first month and enough for a 2nd month to try it out further.

            How many higher priced items did you try out on it, and what niche was your bigger ticket item that earned you a commission?
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              • Profile picture of the author cowloc
                Originally Posted by tomtommarketing View Post

                Hi Genycis,

                By far I'm seeing the best response from Internet Marketing related offers targeted to beginners. I as well am making way more than my monthly fee as well so for me it makes sense to keep the service. This morning I surprisingly noticed 2 commissions come in from higher priced Clickbank offers ($97 for one and $169 for the other) What I did was put myself in the mind of a beginner marketer when reading the sales page of the offer I wanted to test. I think what you choose to promote definitely impacts the results you can get. The better the offer, the better the conversions from the traffic.

                I also surprisingly have enrolled 3 people into pure leverage via Submission Works traffic since adding my link last weekend when I am very pleased with.

                One thing I also wanted to mention was I have yet to see a refund from a clickbank sale. Clickbank is well known for refunds and I have yet to see one from the sales I have made!
                Tom,

                Curious if you are using Pure Leverage's provided pages or your own opt-in page, or even a PL builder?

                I added my PL provided page into Submission Works 2 weeks ago (will be 2 weeks tomorrow) and I'm happy with how things are going. I see a paid sales every couple days as well as quite a few leads that actually respond when I contact them lol..

                I agree with you on the low CB refund rates. I have not got a refund from any of my CB commissions. Nothings worse than getting a commission reversed, especially a large one.
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  • Profile picture of the author foenyxly
    I have numerous email blast about SW and just deleted it..but now that you fellow WF are having success with it, tonight I decided to give it a shot...let's see how it goes...
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    Wish you the best with it Foenyxly, so far I'm okay with it. I think the bigger test for me will be if I see it work well on my 2nd month into it, or if it's going to then not measure up. But we shall see. Hoping it continues to generate me random commissions and more the more I go into testing it. Best of luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author priyarana5
    I find this site here. It good for improve the traffic of website. I will try to purchase it.
    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Peoney
      almost the same persons here are giving good reviews, but someone mentioned about the source of traffic is junk. I was thinking it might not be a target traffic. Did the SW mentioned what sort of traffic they are dealing with? For example are they using Youtube, article directories, traffic exchange, social bookmark, forum, blog comment, social media like facebook and twitter and pinterest? etc. I am just asking because the monthly fee is quite high. Someone mentioned that you just input 7 links and that's it. Is it? You don't need to input discription, keywords, content etc.? How will it affect your website as a whole, will it affect Google ranking?
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    You know Peoney, I really wish I knew as well. All I know is that I got some conversions from different products that I was promoting. I assume from the commissions that I have made from it so far, that it's mainly marketing people, but, I did get a commission from a weight loss product as well from Sub Works, so it's hard to really say.

    And what's more, I had a sale or two for my hip hop instrumentals, though I don't know if that was from Sub Works out of coincidence, or just from word of mouth to someone else, but they were newer clients I had never done business with before. There's nothing I'm trying to hide, and I don't work for the company either. I'm actually wanting to see if I can replicate or exceed the same results for month 2, or if at that point, it starts to flop. I won't know though as I'm only nearing the end of this first month as a trial. I took a chance to try it after seeing it advertised on a bunch of safelist emails. So far I'm cool with it as I'm already over the point of my investment of $59.95, so anything else I earn afterwards for me is cool by me. lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author cldon
    I've been using Submission Work for 3 months now using EZMF capture page used by top EN leader. Result is zero. Submission is not getting me any results. This is similar to All Inclusive Ads in which I have given it 6 months with ZERO results.
    So, in conclusion are all these low cost traffic worth it? And does it really work? People are just promoting it all over the net just to make commissions with it. I bet they are not really getting any paid signups to their programs.
    P.S. My link tracker shows me more clicks are coming from the same IP addresses.
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    Hey cldon, sorry to hear your frustrations with it. I can agree that I've noticed the same few IP addresses but they had also mentioned a reason as to why that is, though I can't remember.

    As far as trying to earn commissions for Submission Works, trust me, I don't really worry about that, and it's not like I can promote my link here for it anyway. I'm just giving my honest feedback with it so far and I'll really know more as I try one more month with it.. I've only done one month so far. So I'm writing honest blog posts about my experiences with it as I continue trying it. So far so good though as I actually made another commission yesterday after adding a new Clickbank affiliate link to it.

    With Empower Network, I've heard that lots of people are promoting their EN links everywhere with it, and this may be why you're not seeing results with EN itself. I'm not sure. I don't use EN at all. I'm using it mainly to promote Clickbank links and a few other things here and there.

    I've been also trying All Inclusive Ads and I've only made one commission with it so far, so it nearly matches my investment with it. I've not yet tried either to build a list though so I couldn't vouch for how that works.

    Sorry you're frustrated with how it's going. I could see why you're upset with it having not seen the results you were looking for with it. Best of success.
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    • Profile picture of the author Buildyourbiz
      Well I just got my first enroller today into Pure Leverage thanks to Submission-Works traffic.

      After I got my new member notification, I sent them a welcome message and also asked how they found my site as I am not using any tracking links. They messaged me back saying they found my page within a Submission Works advertising frame and they really liked what they saw.

      That is pretty awesome I would say and feels pretty darn good as well.


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      So far so good though as I actually made another commission yesterday after adding a new Clickbank affiliate link to it.
      What Clickbank program did you get a commission for if you don't mind me asking, as I'm advertising a couple myself, thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    Hey Buildyourbiz, of the products from Clickbank that I promoted, I promoted a few weight loss products to which one gained the conversion, I promoted a few traffic building software or courses to which one gained a conversion as well (Auto Mass Traffic), and I also promoted Persuasion Profits, a copywriting course, to which it generated a conversion. I've had a couple of other conversions as well in the program so far and still looking to see what else it does for me.

    So far, I've been grateful that Submission Works has already recouped my $59.95, and also earned me enough to cover another $59.95 for the next month along with some profit from it even still. Hoping month 2 will be even greater than month 1.
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    • Profile picture of the author Buildyourbiz
      Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

      Hey Buildyourbiz, of the products from Clickbank that I promoted, I promoted a few weight loss products to which one gained the conversion, I promoted a few traffic building software or courses to which one gained a conversion as well (Auto Mass Traffic), and I also promoted Persuasion Profits, a copywriting course, to which it generated a conversion. I've had a couple of other conversions as well in the program so far and still looking to see what else it does for me.

      So far, I've been grateful that Submission Works has already recouped my $59.95, and also earned me enough to cover another $59.95 for the next month along with some profit from it even still. Hoping month 2 will be even greater than month 1.
      Wow a weight loss product, traffic building software, and a copywriting course. I also read that you're promoting a hip-hop site (rap music has never been my cup of tea but to each their own right That's a pretty diverse group of programs you're involved in.
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      • Profile picture of the author Genycis
        Originally Posted by Buildyourbiz View Post

        Wow a weight loss product, traffic building software, and a copywriting course. I also read that you're promoting a hip-hop site (rap music has never been my cup of tea but to each their own right That's a pretty diverse group of programs you're involved in.
        Lol, those were some of the products I tried to promote, to which I earned commission from. As far as the hip hop site, I'm actually promoting my hip hop instrumentals website there which is my own music that I produce. I had a couple of sales too but I don't know officially if they also came from Submission Works promo or not. Though I have a drop down to ask people how they found me, most leave it at the default so it's hard to say. So I promote that one because it's my own music that I produce. I've rotated slots though to see what does what. I think today or tomorrow it will bill me again to officially start my 2nd month. Hoping I make some more out of it. The 2nd month will be the true test for me as far as I'm concerned. Let's see though. I'll be changing up the links again soon. lol.

        I'm not part of Empower Network or Pure Leverage which seem to be the programs that are getting most promoted on there. I'm actually not part of any biz opp type programs for that matter other than ZNZ which I didn't really promote, and Copy Paste Cash. Too many biz opp matrix programs and other MLM things out there, not my interest. Lol
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  • Profile picture of the author GaurabBorah
    Signed up a week ago. Not working at all. I added 7 urls. Got few visitors for one site, but no use no signups... and those were really simple opt-in pages..

    I did played with the links, changed them but still its not working for any offers.

    Don't know if it used to work or working for someone, but its definitely not working for me.

    I would better move on to traditional source of traffics where I am better at.

    So far, DISAPPOINTED!
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    So far, from what I'm noticing, most of the people that posted here that said it hasn't worked for them have been trying opt in pages. I can't say I've made a fortune from it, but so far, not too bad, but then again, if I spend X amount of dollars and am able to make X back along with some extra funds, then it's cool with me. I'm not using it as my do all be all of making money online, but I did want to test it out to see how it's done. My 2nd month officially started today as they automatically withdrew the 2nd month. So now I'll see what else I can promote between now and before I either opt for a 3rd month if I make a good amount again like this first month, or, if I cancel it before 2nd month's end. Will keep you posted...
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    • Profile picture of the author blogharvester
      Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

      So far, from what I'm noticing, most of the people that posted here that said it hasn't worked for them have been trying opt in pages. I can't say I've made a fortune from it, but so far, not too bad, but then again, if I spend X amount of dollars and am able to make X back along with some extra funds, then it's cool with me. I'm not using it as my do all be all of making money online, but I did want to test it out to see how it's done. My 2nd month officially started today as they automatically withdrew the 2nd month. So now I'll see what else I can promote between now and before I either opt for a 3rd month if I make a good amount again like this first month, or, if I cancel it before 2nd month's end. Will keep you posted...
      I've been researching SW. Sounds interesting but my question is what are the best type of links to place with this service. Affiliate links, blog site, capture page, signup page? Would an Amazon associate link be acceptable?
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      • Profile picture of the author cowloc
        Originally Posted by blogharvester View Post

        I've been researching SW. Sounds interesting but my question is what are the best type of links to place with this service. Affiliate links, blog site, capture page, signup page? Would an Amazon associate link be acceptable?
        I haven't tested an Amazon affiliate link but Clickbank links work great and have low refund rates. Anything related to running and promoting an online business is working great for me. Just make sure you choose something you yourself would actually want to buy

        P.S. If your amazon links are promoting a physical product I'm not sure how that would do. The traffic I'm getting seems to be biz opp related.. People that want to earn some coin
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      • Profile picture of the author Genycis
        Originally Posted by EdVictor791 View Post

        Genycis: If your results are anything like mine using Submission Works, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that your second months commissions are even higher than your first months

        I've been using Submission Works for "6" months now and I can honestly say this ad service has been the best "bang for my buck" form of advertising that I've tested within the last 2 years..

        My first month in was slow goings, but months 2-3 and on I have made MANY times back my initial membership fee..much better results than any single safelist mailer, much better than any solo ad campaign, and much better ROI than the PPC campaign I used to run back in the day.

        My advice to all is to join SW, let it do its thing automatically in the background (+ and - different links) and begin reaping the rewards.
        You weren't lying about that one Ed, into my 2nd month so far with Submission Works, and today alone I had a commission for over $100, so already that took care of the 2nd month... or wait, my 1st month of using Submission Works and I made enough to compensate 1st and 2nd month, so it's as though everything I'm earning is profit right now, so yup, it's pretty good, though I haven't yet tested it on making an ebook of my own to sell to see how it does, or creating an opt in to see how I can benefit using it for that purpose.

        I've been noticing that those that have said it sucks, have been promoting the typical Empower Network stuff, or Pure Leverage now which seems to be the big promotion going on from everyone using it. I just decided to go other routes with it and so far, you're right. Doing well with it. I also managed to get another sale before my All Inclusive Ads renewed, so I'm in the PLUS with that one as well. Waiting now this month to make some more sales with it to see if it keeps working.

        With the 1st month of Submission, I made almost $250 in commissions after going back now to total up my stats.. and if I made a couple of sales on my hip hop beats from it too as I think may have been the case, even more, but I wasn't able to track that to make sure. But from what I did track, yup, nearly $250, so that already paid for itself for 4 months worth of use so far.

        This month going in, and so far I've made almost $250 in commissions and I'm not up on the 2nd month until April 26th is here as I started Feb 26th, so I'm hoping to make another couple hundred with it.

        It works, and so far, crossing my fingers, I've not had a chargeback or refund occur yet, so if that remains in tact, I'd say it's by far one of the best advertising programs I've dealt with. Crossing my fingers... will keep you posted.
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      Can you put a screen shot if you don't mind..

      Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

      So far, from what I'm noticing, most of the people that posted here that said it hasn't worked for them have been trying opt in pages. I can't say I've made a fortune from it, but so far, not too bad, but then again, if I spend X amount of dollars and am able to make X back along with some extra funds, then it's cool with me. I'm not using it as my do all be all of making money online, but I did want to test it out to see how it's done. My 2nd month officially started today as they automatically withdrew the 2nd month. So now I'll see what else I can promote between now and before I either opt for a 3rd month if I make a good amount again like this first month, or, if I cancel it before 2nd month's end. Will keep you posted...
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        Sure... here's the screenshot of the image I had posted... this was at nearly a month of using it. I need to do an updated picture of things from the near 2 month span so far. The last few days, I've not made a sale, but if nothing comes through, I'll change up once again on some links. Here's the screenshot attached (click on the attachment to expand the pic)

        Sorry if the image isn't big enough... couldn't find a way to make it bigger on my blog, but if you look at the screenshot, four of those five tracking ID's were of Submission Works, the other was All Inclusive Ads.

        I have no reason at all to lie as it doesn't even matter to me whether someone signs up under my Submission Works code or not on the site. I'm not promoting Submission Works heavily like it's the latest biz opp, I'm simply writing up and posting what it's done for me so far.

        I would post my actual blog link on here, but I don't want to get in trouble with the admins on "promoting" even though I'm not trying to.

        I honestly think it's a trial and error type thing though. But that's the bad thing about marketing too... if someone honestly has results with it, you either A: see people join because of the buzz, or more so, B: people bashing at the honest critique because so many others promote the product as the greatest thing even if they've never made a dime on it.

        I'm not trying to do that with my blog post. I'm waiting to see if I earn any more sales, as my anniversary date is the 26th. We'll see. I'll keep you posted as I see more (or see less) with it.
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    Okay, so I just signed up for Submission Works, too. I'll update with my results (when I have some, or lack thereof).
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          they do not have a refund policy that is...normal...basically you have 24 hours or before you add your links into the system. other than that, there is no refund available. however i did receive a refund only because apparently my links were causing server issues. a couple other people have gone through the same process. and we were supposed to be notified when we can rejoin...that never happened. be weary.
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      Originally Posted by EmpowerNetwork2013 View Post

      First off during the last 3 weeks I invested nearly $700 in advertising and I'd like to share some of those results. I'm a bit sick to the gut even thinking about it as this was money "supposed" to be for other things but none the less I know I'll get it back sooner or later if I keep up with my marketing.

      3/13/13 - Purchased a $199 yearly OTO from the new relaunched Listjoe.. Was a member of theirs years ago and it was effective.. My understanding is the owner lost access to the site and the Bweeble/Listbonus guys came in to rescue it.

      Results: I'm doing a mailing every 3 days to 3000 plus extra credits when I find time to click to earn them. 6 Optins. 0 Sales (so far)

      3/15/13 - Purchased $30/mo Traffic Swarm account.

      Results: My undemanding is Traffic Swarm is one of the better traffic exchanges.. Time will tell. 2 options. 0 sales (so far)

      3/16/13 - Purchased a safe-swaps mailing for $57 for 200 clicks.

      Results: A bit disappointing on this one as it was my first buy from safe-swaps and I had really high hopes for long term success with this one. 1 optin. 0 sales. Seller had decent reviews. Maybe too many people are mailing EN and PL with this list. Will try another solo purchase from Safe-Swaps when funds allow.

      3/21/13 - $197 Bweeble & $197 listbonus yearly OTO's. Mailing each every 3 days with extra credits when I have time to click for them.

      Results: 25 leads so far from these 2 combined. 0 sales.

      So that's $681 total. The good news is the listjoe, bweeble and listbonus are good for a year so even though results are somewhat low they should add up over 12 months. Not sure if I'll cancel the $30 traffic swarm next month.

      As far as Submission Works goes, its surprisingly doing the best out of all my current ad sources. on 3/31/13 I added my Submission Works affiliate link as one of the 7 links in my account (SW should work to promote itself I assumed) and I've earned $30 in recurring commissions on 3 sales so far. Also in the past 3 weeks my EN leads from SW traffic are at 67 with 11 paid upgrades. PL is doing a bit better at 75 leads with 16 paid upgrades. And CB links have made me approx $185 in commissions. I'm debating creating a 2nd account so I can double up on everything but I'd have to check the TOS on that one to see if its allowed. My existing account renews in 9 days and lets just say I WILL be letting it re-bill.

      Will continue testing new ad services when I get paid next and will share the results. So far Submission Works stands out amongst everything I've tried in terms of leads and sales. What a crazy game we choose to play here in the IM world
      Traffic Swarm isn't what it used to be in my opinion. I know they have a pretty good anti-cheat system in place but I can't help to think the traffic is somehow bot driven.

      Safe-Swaps was a nightmare for me. I tried promoting direct links to programs as well as an aweber list. I used to think Google Adwords (when they allowed affiliate link promotion) was the quickest way to blow $500 but safeswaps comes in a close 2nd! I think people may be scared to leave negative reviews on the solos they buy in fear of retaliatory negative reviews.. A kind of "I leave a good review for you and you do the same for me" type of thing. It's just strange how you can buy solos from amazingly reviewed sellers yet the response just doesn't come. I know alot depends on what you are promoting etc. but anyways.. Not my cup of tea.. Might as well head down to the casino!

      I'm still happy with Submission Works thought.. I like the fixed cost of $60/mo and no upsells or even options to pay anything more than that.. I like that it really only works out to $2 per day.. no way that type of spending is going to get out of control.. Also like that it only takes me 1-2 sales to break even and be in the black with it.. I change my links every few days as I really do believe in doing my part to insure the traffic is going to the best possible link.. the perfect offer for the type of traffic. I'm making more than enough to cover the fee and a nice profit so it stays on my list of ad sites to keep.

      Keep us posted with your results from those 200/year safelists like listjoe/bweeb/listbonus I'm a free member on 2 of those and have debated upgrading a new account with the OTO.. I understand what I'm getting with safelist traffic in terms of clicks from people that had incentives to do so, but I still believe its a great way to brand yourself and eventually get them to respond to your offers.
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      Originally Posted by EmpowerNetwork2013 View Post

      on 3/31/13 I added my Submission Works affiliate link as one of the 7 links in my account (SW should work to promote itself I assumed) and I've earned $30 in recurring commissions on 3 sales so far.
      Never thought to do that. Just did.

      Now on to my results. About 6 weeks in and have seen 0 leads. Yes zero. This second month has seen a no unique visitors on my links. At about 10 impressions per person. I find it odd that the unique visitors have completely dropped off. Still getting impressions though.

      I've switched up some of the links but left a couple to see how they perform long term.

      Hopefully I can add some SW commissions into the mix to offset the cost and I'll continue split testing some other offers.
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            I read through this whole thread, and even with some of the negative reviews I decided to try it out for one month and see what happens. I figured for a $60 investment it is worth a try.

            I know it is hard to believe, but within 15 minutes of entering my 7 affiliate links, I made a sale. It is a Clickbank product targeting newbies to internet marketing. Now, to be fair, this may be the only sale that I get for my 30 days, but I was shocked to see it.

            I will try to update periodically with my progress, but right now I am optimistic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lanx
    i re-examined my traffic sources and i'm giving submission works one more try, it was actually pretty easy to cancel the next payment, and even to resign up again, so i didn't mind doing that.

    spent hundreds on safe-swaps... so far worst investment.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lanx
    here's why i decided to give it a second month, i got the 2 sources where all this traffic comes from...

    there's a TON of EN, ads (the EN ads are just so spammy anyone can recognize them) so... it's either it's not working or follow the money.
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  • Profile picture of the author butterballs8
    I have 4 websites and none of them made any sales through submissionworks.com
    I have been logging in every day for the past 2 weeks. Not sure what is going on there.
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      • Profile picture of the author jimzimm
        Just wanted to post that I just made another CB sale using SW, this one had a commission of $52.66. Adding that to my earlier total of $89.44 and that gives me a total of $142.10 since joining on 4/8. Not bad for putting 7 links into a system, and changing those links occasionally to try to find the best niches.
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    Lol, I don't know if I'd pay that much for it just yet, but, I could see paying $69.95 instead of $59.95 if they give us the ability to do 10 URLs instead of only 7, or charging us $5.00 more for each extra URL space we want after the initial 7. I could get down with that one. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    I actually did submit a ticket and they told me they were getting responses from others about this as well and that they were looking into doing something like that in the near future. So we'll see.

    That said, what did customer support advise that you do in terms of suggestions if I may ask? I seem to be averaging a sale or two every few days it seems like but also depends on the product I'm promoting. So far, the highest commission earned was for over $100.00 so that impressed me as well to see.

    I feel ya on the excitement as well.. hoping to see what else I can make commissions on using it. I wonder how many people they have that view the links we post up... and how the people were chosen that get to view the links we put up. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    Cool, sounds good.. so is it earning you a sale every single day? Or a sale every couple or few days or so? And are you just plugging in direct links from CB or are you converting them with a shortener? I've been using IBOToolbox to shorten the links with IBOurl, but was curious as to whether you were plugging in direct links or not.

    I've plugged in a few CB products but I've never tried plugging in the same product twice. May be interesting to try out though. And you're right, cutoff started today so it's from Wednesday to Tuesday. I've not tried to buy another membership as of yet.. I'm still wondering.
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        Oh okay, I never actually contacted support except to verify an issue that I had. Interesting.. so I can actually just use the raw links and save myself some time. I wasn't sure if the links themselves were seen or not.

        Sounds like you're really doing well to average $65 a day so far. I've not quite done that well with it, but I've still done well enough to have made almost $250 for my first month and so far at this time, I'm already near that $250 mark with two more weeks to go.

        I do the same thing with the Dashboard, so it's not just you. haha.

        Are you doing a variety of different niches or mainly one area in general that you're marketing? And do you just select what you feel is a good product, or dependent more on criteria such as gravity or popularity? I'm doing a variety of different niches, and I've also recently tried a Commission Junction product on there, though most of the products I try to apply for, they decline me for. Still, I'm doing the best I can. I've tried JVzoo products as well but the ones that did approve me, I've not made a sale with using SW so far. So I guess it varies and depends on what you're using.

        I know many a person getting upset with SW saying it's not drawn sales or opt ins for their Empower Network campaign, or with their Pure Leverage as well. I think it's not that it doesn't work, but when you have x amount of people promoting the same thing, it starts to become too saturated. Still, people are just quick to blame SW instead of trying other things.

        On that note, sounds like you're doing well with SW, and I agree, I love it too. If it keeps on at this rate, I'll see about keeping it on renewal status on a regular basis. I want to also write an ebook and try to promote it... maybe I can come up with a $17 ebook that will then sell a few times a week to which all profits would be mine. lol.

        Any other experiences or things you've done or seen, feel free to share and I'll continue to do the same as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author MelanieandMiles
    Time to stop following this thread silently... And time to take action!

    We have some very unique systems we are working with that are a breath of fresh air compared to Empower Network and some of the over-hyped 100% commission opportunities...

    Time to see if I can communicate this effectively through Submission Works....

    Wish us luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Lanx
      Originally Posted by MelanieandMiles View Post

      Time to stop following this thread silently... And time to take action!

      We have some very unique systems we are working with that are a breath of fresh air compared to Empower Network and some of the over-hyped 100% commission opportunities...

      Time to see if I can communicate this effectively through Submission Works....

      Wish us luck!
      a third of the offers are for EN tho...

      =p
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      • Profile picture of the author MelanieandMiles
        Originally Posted by Lanx View Post

        a third of the offers are for EN tho...

        =p
        Good thing we passed on that gig when we learned about... What we are doing is pretty much in direct competition with EN, so hopefully people who see our ads in SW will appreciate something new!

        I'm impressed with how quick it was to get things rolling... Already plugged our link in multiple times and supposedly they are actively promoting us already.

        No headline, no ad copy... Just a link. Could it be any easier?

        So are most of you promoting direct products, or freebies via opt-in lists? I wonder if building a list with an info product would be more effective than just promoting my aff. link.
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            Originally Posted by raywarrior1978 View Post

            Actually I heard a few people say that squeeze pages are not good for SW.
            The best thing you can do is promote your affiliate links and let SW do all of the promotion for you. Don't worry about cloaking your links. Just give them your affiliate links and make sure they are in the IM or Biz Opps niche.
            Thanks for the tip! I was thinking about putting together a new squeeze page, list and a give-a-way, today.... But I'll hold steady with my affiliate links in the system.
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                Originally Posted by raywarrior1978 View Post

                Do any of you guys know how to track each one of my clickbank raw affiliate link for free?
                You could possibly use a service like bit.ly to track click-throughs... Or ClickBank has a system built in... Scroll down to the "Adding Tracking IDs to Your HopLinks" section, here:

                https://support.clickbank.com/entrie...About-HopLinks

                Slight edit here... I figured I'd go run my links through bit.ly and resubmit them so we can start tracking. No go... Bitly is over saturated in their system.
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                • Profile picture of the author miop37
                  Hi Guys. I have been in silent watching your talk about submission works.. well signed today and used some opt in pages and clickbank as well. however can't track it. they don't take bit ly. any suggestions how to track?
                  thanks guys
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                  • Profile picture of the author Seemore25101
                    Subscribed today. My EN mentor told our team it has worked for him in the past couple weeks so I decided to try it out. If no sales come up, I will add some Clickbank offers in as well.
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                      • Profile picture of the author jimzimm
                        I joined on 4/8 and made a sale almost immediately and haven't made one since. Five of my links are CB products, mainly in the make money online niche for newbies, and I haven't even had an order form impression other than that one sale. I am going to give it through the weekend, and if nothing during that time frame, I will change out the links, most likely to other CB links.

                        I am still hopeful as the one sale was about half of the cost, but the lack of order form impressions has me a little skeptical. I know that it could be the offers that I am promoting, but it seems a little strange.

                        I have to laugh because I keep getting an email from an affiliate saying they are signing up 8 new people per day on average to Pure Leverage. I think they may be exaggerating their success.

                        Originally Posted by raywarrior1978 View Post

                        yesterday was my first day with no sales. I started on monday with my 7 urls, I hope i make something today

                        How many days have you guys gone without sales, like gap wise....well those that have been using sw for over 1 or 2 months

                        I just want to see the pattern, i hope i make something today
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
    I really wish I could say I'm as happy with this as some of the others here. I have 7 of my own product urls listed on SW for the past 3 days and not one sale has come from SW. Maybe it's to soon to draw a conclusion but I see a lot of posts where people are claiming to get sales with 20 minutes or at least 1 day of adding a url...and yes....these are good IM products that sell pretty well aside from SW.
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      Originally Posted by Gary Pettit View Post

      I really wish I could say I'm as happy with this as some of the others here. I have 7 of my own product urls listed on SW for the past 3 days and not one sale has come from SW. Maybe it's to soon to draw a conclusion but I see a lot of posts where people are claiming to get sales with 20 minutes or at least 1 day of adding a url...and yes....these are good IM products that sell pretty well aside from SW.
      Gary, have you noticed an increase in traffic volume through Analytics?
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    • Profile picture of the author jimzimm
      Originally Posted by Gary Pettit View Post

      I really wish I could say I'm as happy with this as some of the others here. I have 7 of my own product urls listed on SW for the past 3 days and not one sale has come from SW. Maybe it's to soon to draw a conclusion but I see a lot of posts where people are claiming to get sales with 20 minutes or at least 1 day of adding a url...and yes....these are good IM products that sell pretty well aside from SW.
      I was one of those that claimed (I actually did get) a sale almost immediately after posting all 7 of my links into the system. I wish I could say that I continued to get sales, but so far I haven't. One sale day 1, no sales day 2. But, I have half of my cost of Submission Works covered, and still have 28 days to make another sale and the rest will be covered.

      I hope by making my earlier post I didn't give the impression that this is a pot of gold, just enter your 7 links. I really think that the jury is still out and there are people who sound like they are doing very well, and others who aren't making any sales. Time will tell.
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  • Profile picture of the author jdooley13
    I joined 5 days ago. I have had about 150 visitors per link but only about 3-5% show as unique.
    5 of the 7 links go to free items (squeeze page) that normally convert at least 35%. One goes to a CB product and one to my Empower Network sign up page.
    No sales, no optins so far.
    I will update again in a week (or sooner if something positive happens).
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    • Profile picture of the author miop37
      Originally Posted by jdooley13 View Post

      I joined 5 days ago. I have had about 150 visitors per link but only about 3-5% show as unique.
      5 of the 7 links go to free items (squeeze page) that normally convert at least 35%. One goes to a CB product and one to my Empower Network sign up page.
      No sales, no optins so far.
      I will update again in a week (or sooner if something positive happens).
      Well I joined 2 days ago and i am exactly in the same situation. clicks yes.. unique click..a very low percentage. when checking where the traffic comes is weird i click the ling and opens an empower network page?? I am Big Idea Mastermind and do no promote any empower page. also pure leverage and click bank. No sales, no opt ins, zero...

      will wait, exchange links and try, but so far I am not impresses.. Lets see
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    Traffic seems a bit off, and I also identified the source.

    Bit coin stuff.
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      Originally Posted by StevenJones View Post

      Traffic seems a bit off, and I also identified the source.

      Bit coin stuff.
      What is "bit coin stuff"?
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    I think as I've stated before, it does vary and depend with the products that you are promoting. That said, I've promoted mainly CB products with it, though I've tried a few other things as well. I've seen many an Empower Network and Pure Leverage person say lately that it's not working for them, but then, I believe that there are so many people promoting EN and PL in Submission Works that it's probably saturated right now.

    That said, with the CB products I've promoted and made sales from, it didn't happen as soon as I joined. It was a few days out that I had the same links set up and then I noticed the sale come through. Sometimes, when I changed the links, I noticed a sale the very same day or next day, so again, I believe it boils down to the product and who really likes what they want.

    I've not yet tried an opt in form or my own lead / sales page, so I couldn't vouch as for what it's doing with that. But so far with CB it's been decent to me, to the point that I've more than made up for the $59.95 per month payment. I'm waiting for a sale for these last links I put in but if they don't generate a sale, I'll change them out and try something else. Luck of the draw with the products I believe, but EN and PL, yeah, those seem to be having more and more people I see online saying that Submission Works doesn't work, but I believe they are saturated... hell, I see those products promoted most on Safelists, on FB groups online, and so on, so I could definitely believe oversaturation with Submission Works as well... everyone's hoping for those heavy commissions with EN that it's bombarded everywhere now. lol
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        Hi again everyone, just wanted to share an update here. I joined Submission Works March 17 so I've been using their service for almost one month. So far they've sent me 3 Pure Leverage members with all 3 completing the $1 one week trial phase and upgrading to the $25 level. I've also received 3 ClickBank sales for the program, Persuasion Profit Secrets.

        All in all I am very pleased with the return I'm receiving thus far and now feel comfortable recommending Submission Works to the team of networker's I work fairly close with.
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    Anyone still making sales with this...been with it for a week and haven't made any sales yet.
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        I did get another sale over the weekend, giving me 2 sales in the first week with the total commission approximately equaling the cost of one month of SW.

        I am still surprised at the amount of hops that I am receiving with very few Order Form Impressions. I am going to swap out some of my links (not the 2 that I made sales with) for CB products in other niches.

        The way I look at it is that I now have 3 weeks to experiment and see what happens. I wasn't expecting to get rich with SW, so I feel like have the opportunity to test some different offers and see if any of them convert at a higher percentage. Maybe "the IM for newbies" niche isn't the best one for SW traffic, but it is hard to know what is since I don't really know where they are sending the traffic from. So I will test, test, test, and see what happens.
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        • Profile picture of the author nickleback
          Originally Posted by jimzimm View Post

          I did get another sale over the weekend, giving me 2 sales in the first week with the total commission approximately equaling the cost of one month of SW.

          I am still surprised at the amount of hops that I am receiving with very few Order Form Impressions. I am going to swap out some of my links (not the 2 that I made sales with) for CB products in other niches.

          The way I look at it is that I now have 3 weeks to experiment and see what happens. I wasn't expecting to get rich with SW, so I feel like have the opportunity to test some different offers and see if any of them convert at a higher percentage. Maybe "the IM for newbies" niche isn't the best one for SW traffic, but it is hard to know what is since I don't really know where they are sending the traffic from. So I will test, test, test, and see what happens.
          I am promoting mostly clickbank products and I was surprised at the number of hops I got verses Order form Impressions also. Haven't given up yet will just test more links.
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            • Profile picture of the author nickleback
              Originally Posted by raywarrior1978 View Post

              Hello guys.

              I was wondering a few things. I am not sure how this really works but maybe some of you guys that have been using SW longer might know.

              Suppose I want to promote a clickbank product and I want more traffic hitting that one product.

              If I enter that 1 url into my 7 spots in SW, will I get more traffic to that link or will the traffic be the same as if i had that link by itself and the other 6 spots empty or fill out with 6 different affiliate links?



              Ok next question, have you guys made any sales with Clickbank besides the e-business & e-marketing section. Maybe health, betting, green products, fiction, games, home & garden, etc... There are so many categories on clickbank but according to SW customer service they said that IM and Home Biz opportunity works best. But at the same time they also said to feel free to explore and test other links and test my conversions.

              I was thinking maybe of creating a private blog that talks about CB products that are converting on SW. Maybe a paying private blog so that only a limited amount of us can share was working and was not so it doesn't become saturated.

              But I am not sure yet

              Oh well, no sales for today and I am running 24 urls
              No sales but strangely I have gotten the the most hops and order form impressions from the health section. I think the blog might be a good idea.
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    • Profile picture of the author nickleback
      Originally Posted by Gary Pettit View Post

      Anyone still making sales with this...been with it for a week and haven't made any sales yet.
      It's been almost 2 weeks here and still no sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author cowloc
    Friday I got a $29 sale from a Clickbank offer, Saturday a $49.95 sale and later Saturday night I surprisingly got a $195 sale from a Clickbank offer. Commission %'s varied of those 3 sales but overall the profit was approx $140. I agree, testing is definitely key.

    I haven't gotten any sales yet so far today but the day is still early. I have my eye on some decent looking solo ad buys that I'm putting that $140 profit towards in hopes of netting even more sales. I'm really surprised how well this converts. The extra few hundred per month I'm making with this is great funds to use to test other ad sources. It doesn't sting as bad when you lose it because it was really profits instead of hard earned credit card cash. Anyways, I have a couple ClickBank links switched out today I have high hopes for. I think I'm getting a feel for what type of offers this traffic can't resist.
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    • Profile picture of the author jimzimm
      I changed out 3 of my links this morning and I am trying 2 different niches. I tried to get myself into the mindset of what someone would be interested in if I am sending non-targeted traffic.

      Interestingly, I made another sale today, and it was one of the new products that I added this morning. Another interesting thing is that 2 of my 3 sales have come very quickly (within a few hours) after adding new products, don't really know why this is.

      So now I am in profit after 8 days, anxious to see if I can keep this up. Again, I don't think that I can get rich with SW, but it can fund some other projects that I am working on, or give me test money. Right now I am really happy as I have spent a total of about 1 hour, with almost all of that time spent researching products that I want to promote.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
    Really wish I had not bought this...just doesn't seem worth it as far as sells. Also...it's interesting that it's credit card payments only. Usually products like this with subscriptions are with paypal or clickbank....sounds like they might have been expecting a high refund or cancellation rate. Wouldn't surprise me if peoples credit cards continue to get charged if they decide to cancel.
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    • Profile picture of the author jimzimm
      I made another sale today, that makes 4 sales in about 11 days. I know that there are some people who haven't made any sales and are really disappointed with the program, while others are having success. I consider myself pretty lucky to be making as many sales as I have, but I think I am getting a good handle on what kind of products sell with the SW traffic.

      I have said before, and I will repeat it again, I don't think I am going to get rich through using SW. I do think that I can make some good testing/seed money. If I continue at the pace I am on, I should have a net profit of about $300 this month. I actually believe that there is a good chance that my sales will go up as I continue to tweak which products I enter into SW.

      As it stands right now, I will definitely continuing my subscription when it renews. One thing I didn't mention is that 2 of my sales are monthly subscriptions and if the buyer continues next month, my SW payment is covered.
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          I will say that I have had success with the "IM for newbies" niche, but haven't had any success with a weight loss product. I would actually prefer to not discuss which niche I feel is the most successful as I don't think there are many targeting it and I would prefer not to see a bunch of links entered in that niche.

          I really don't know where the traffic comes from and how the links are distributed, so I would not want to see too many others targeting the same area as me. Sorry, I don't mean to be evasive, just a little protective right now.

          What I will say is to open your mind on what kind of offers might convert with cold traffic, and test. Don't be afraid to remove and replace links frequently. I have removed non-converting links about every 2-3 days and tried new ones out. Anything that has converted one sale stays.
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  • Profile picture of the author MelanieandMiles
    We've been running SW for 12 days now and have received one lead and zero sales.

    No plans to continue with the program at this point... But, I will be tweaking things a bit this week, to see if I can at least get one sale to earn our up-front cost back.
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    • Profile picture of the author ethan97
      I started using this two weeks ago. I've rotated various Clickbank programs through mainly from weight loss, make money online stuff, and gambling/betting/lottery products.

      See screenshot. Lots of impressions but zero order form hits. I'm glad others are having some success but Submission Works has been a total loss for me so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author simpleguy
    Don't get duped by the hype.

    I tried to submit my links and they were all rejected. They were all tracking links. I tried variuos tracking sources including bit.ly, trck.me & clickmeter...

    How can I advertise without tracking?

    No sales no conversions.

    Don't get caught by all the people posting testimonies. I have yet to see ONE screenshot with proof of a conversion that can be tracked to submissionworks. And I mean all over the internet.

    BTW if you want worthless traffic that doesn't convert go to fiverr...

    At least it's cheaper

    Don't bother responding with words. SHOW PROOF
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    • Profile picture of the author Genycis
      As far as those trackers, were you getting that it was "Rejected" or that it's saturated? I think a lot of people are using those. I had tried IBOToolbox and used and converted the link using their shortener and it worked fine to me. As far as Clickbank, you can plug the affiliate link directly into Sub Works so that will already track for you based on the backend of Clickbank. As far as your own products or other products not related to Clickbank, not sure but I'd search around for other shorteners with tracking to gauge your stats. Just a thought.

      As far as the testimonials and what not, I'm not even promoting my affiliate link for it here and honestly, I've not even pushed hard on trying to promote Sub Works like others tend to do. I'm just posting my own honest results from it and so far I've gained some Clickbank affiliate sales as a result. I've tried some Commission Junction products but while I got clicks from there, I didn't get anything. I think it's all just in who may see your link and whether they are interested in getting it at that time personally. I'm not posting "testimonials" in a way that's like "YOOOO, you GOTTA join Submission Works", I'm simply stating what has been working for me thus far. But hey, to each their own. I'm near my 2 month mark with it now and I'm going to renew for one more month to see what it does for me. So far I'm still in the positive even after deducting what I'll invest for a 3rd month, so I'll give it one more go to see, and if it does well for the 3rd month, I'll keep going until I start to see that it's not doing anything for me anymore.
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    • Profile picture of the author jimzimm
      Obviously I am just making up every sale that I say that I have made with SW:confused:. I'm not really sure why since I have nothing to gain from having success using their system, not even promoting SW inside of their own system and never posted anything close to an affiliate link in this thread. Why is it so hard to believe that there are people who are having success?


      Originally Posted by simpleguy View Post

      Don't get duped by the hype.

      I tried to submit my links and they were all rejected. They were all tracking links. I tried variuos tracking sources including bit.ly, trck.me & clickmeter...

      How can I advertise without tracking?

      No sales no conversions.

      Don't get caught by all the people posting testimonies. I have yet to see ONE screenshot with proof of a conversion that can be tracked to submissionworks. And I mean all over the internet.

      BTW if you want worthless traffic that doesn't convert go to fiverr...

      At least it's cheaper

      Don't bother responding with words. SHOW PROOF
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      • Profile picture of the author Genycis
        Originally Posted by jimzimm View Post

        Obviously I am just making up every sale that I say that I have made with SW:confused:. I'm not really sure why since I have nothing to gain from having success using their system, not even promoting SW inside of their own system and never posted anything close to an affiliate link in this thread. Why is it so hard to believe that there are people who are having success?
        Exactly Jim! That's what I'm trying to figure out. If I had a link on my signature that was straight out promoting Sub Works affiliate link, then hey, by all means, call me on it... but we're simply posting what we're experiencing with it. And it's not like the commission for Sub Works is $250 that I'm really going to play it up even if it isn't doing anything for me. If it wasn't doing much of anything at all, then I'd be posting that as well... but so far, I'm pleased with it as I'm still in the positive even after the investments for 2 months and a 3rd month planned in. Lol. Oh well.
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    Thanks for the screenshots and the laser quick response...
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      You're welcome, stay positive.......

      Originally Posted by simpleguy View Post

      Thanks for the screenshots and the laser quick response...
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        • Profile picture of the author serendipitous1
          I just paid for my third month of Submission Works and happy to share that so far I've made almost exactly 3x the Submission Works cost in terms of profit. It definitely hasn't made me rich "yet" lol but anything that turns even a small profit is worth it in my book :p I'm gonna keep testing...


          Originally Posted by raywarrior1978 View Post

          Since joining this month on the 8th I started making fast sales.
          Hi Ray, I had been following your great results in this thread since you joined SW and it seems almost all of your posts are gone now for some reason?
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              Originally Posted by raywarrior1978 View Post

              I think I am going to pay someone to make me my own landing page, with a PLR product that provides excellent value and pays directly to my paypal account for instant commission. That way my link doesn't get saturated
              Wow, I think this is a very good idea Ray. I'm not totally sure Sw is saturated like you suggest, as I am getting good results promoting a main stream program (Pure Leverage) but having your own personal landing page should ensure your links will be competing with less (this is pure speculation of course)
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              • Profile picture of the author serendipitous1
                Originally Posted by Marshallsbiz View Post

                Lol this is the reason I have backed off posting in this thread I continue to be 'quietly' impressed with the results SW is delivering me...and one of the reasons I'm gonna keep the future programs I promote with this software to myself hehe. The way I look at it is this. The internet marketing industry is chalk full of worthless fluff and hype, so when I actually find something that actually works, what would I gain from blabbing about my great results all over the place, unless I'm promoting it of course, which I am not.

                On a side note, I personally know four people using Sub Works who have reported back weekly paid upgrades and signups. And they also know of this WF thread who just want to keep their personal results under wraps, in fear of over saturation, just like myself and Ray. Why spoil a good thing if there is even the possibility of program saturation??

                I have a feeling there is quite a few more people out there making money with SW who keep their results 'hush hush' and don't want to jinx it in any way, selfish as that might be.
                I'm starting to see where you're coming from Marshall lol. Most of the ad sites I've used don't convert well enough, so when something like Submission Works comes along and actually works for a change, I really don't want to risk it not working all of a sudden for whatever reason, whether its oversaturation or whatever.

                But since the two programs that have been converting for me with SW are pretty darn big, I really don't mind passing along the tip I've been having good results with Pure Leverage and Big Idea Mastermind and this week so far, have got 2 Pure Leverage upgrades from them.

                Keep chuggin along
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          • Profile picture of the author Buildyourbiz
            Originally Posted by serendipitous1 View Post

            I just paid for my third month of Submission Works and happy to share that so far I've made almost exactly 3x the Submission Works cost in terms of profit. It definitely hasn't made me rich "yet" lol but anything that turns even a small profit is worth it in my book :p I'm gonna keep testing...
            Ditto for me, only I am coming up to the beginning of my third month as a SW member. I have profited between 3 and 4 times my monthly membership fee but the real clincher has been this: I signed up 5 people in my marketing team with Submission Works and so far each of them have also profited in the way of roughly 3-4 times their membership cost. So I earn a little bit from referring them to the SW system PLUS I am making money on the SW results each and every one of them are receiving. Winner Winner chicken dinner haha
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    Wow, sorry to hear your frustrations now Ray. I had a bit of a hiatus with mine as well for several days, but I took that as well as trying products that maybe people weren't interested in. I had another sale populate a couple of days ago and I'm thinking I may change up the links again soon or let them ride out through the weekend. So far so good though, and today makes the end of my 2nd month. I'm going to go in for one more month to see if I have good results with it as well for the next month. So far, for both months, I've been able to well exceed the $59.95 investment for each month. Hoping this next month will be just as well.

    AIA on the other hand, I've not done so well with this 2nd month. Still waiting to see if something else comes out of it. I can see an increase in traffic with it in the 2nd month, but still no extra sales so far. So far with products I've promoted with Submission Works so far (mostly Clickbank), I've earned over $500.00 just with Submission Works in what will be 2 months today, which I think is pretty good so far, versus the All Inclusive Ads to which I've only earned $40.70 which is also almost 2 months into having used it.

    Given what I've earned with Sub Works so far, I'm going to use some of that profit to try All Inclusive Ads one more month to see what it does, as well as Sub Works. Given what I've made with Sub Works, I figure I've earned enough to pay for it for several months of testing. Hoping it continues on this path though, as I did worry a bit about the timeframe of several days that i didn't make a sale. I think it is a game of luck to a degree and testing different links. So far, I've not yet seen a link I've tested that gained me repeated sales within a few days. But we'll see how it continues. I'll be making another screenshot of it soon for my blog post. Will keep you posted...
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  • Profile picture of the author jdooley13
    A little over two weeks in and really nothing to speak of. One CB sale the 4th day but nothing at all since, not even a sales page impression. Not a single sign up to any of my squeeze pages (giving free IM type products). I have switched most of my links over to CB products now to try to make some money. Still a couple of more weeks before I have to decide whether to renew.
    Just an aside, I also signed up for Allinclusiveads. That was a complete waste of money. Over two weeks and I am averaging less than 25 clicks per link there---about 2-3 clicks a day per link and, of course, no signups or sales or even an email address for a CPA offer..
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  • Profile picture of the author sethalexander
    Well after two months I saw zero sales. I tried all different types of offers and let them run at least a week each time. I even threw the SW affiliate link in like others said they did. On a positive note. When I cancelled they threw $20 in my affiliate account to encourage me to keep promoting as an affiliate (which I will) since payout threshold is $30.
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  • Profile picture of the author edwin3145
    I signed up for SW about 2 weeks ago, I have tried various Clickbank offers in the IM niche, most have fairly high gravity and are popular, also tried some CPA offers in the biz op category. I even tried some programs that were free to join. So far zero sales or opt-ins. I might try some lesser know offers with less gravity...

    I am getting 100's clicks but ZERO order form impressions at Clickbank. Same is basically true for other products I promoted with SW. Seem like I am getting a lot of exit traffic from cheesy make money offers. I submitted a few of my blog posts so I could track where the traffic was coming from.

    So, for me, Submission Works is a scam. I wonder if they promote differently to some accounts so they can get a few good reviews or something, IDK.

    I sent a support ticket asking for some guidance. Got something like a form letter. I had asked for guidance on how long I should keep a link up before moving on to another offer. They did not answer the question even though I sent multiple support tickets. They don't seemed too concerned about retaining customers.

    I have cancelled my subscription, they did put $20 bucks in my "affiliate" account but there is no way I am going to promote SW!

    My advice is to beware of Submission Works.
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    • Profile picture of the author ethan97
      Originally Posted by edwin3145 View Post

      I signed up for SW about 2 weeks ago, I have tried various Clickbank offers in the IM niche, most have fairly high gravity and are popular, also tried some CPA offers in the biz op category. I even tried some programs that were free to join. So far zero sales or opt-ins. I might try some lesser know offers with less gravity...

      I am getting 100's clicks but ZERO order form impressions at Clickbank. Same is basically true for other products I promoted with SW. Seem like I am getting a lot of exit traffic from cheesy make money offers. I submitted a few of my blog posts so I could track where the traffic was coming from.

      So, for me, Submission Works is a scam. I wonder if they promote differently to some accounts so they can get a few good reviews or something, IDK.

      I sent a support ticket asking for some guidance. Got something like a form letter. I had asked for guidance on how long I should keep a link up before moving on to another offer. They did not answer the question even though I sent multiple support tickets. They don't seemed too concerned about retaining customers.

      I have cancelled my subscription, they did put $20 bucks in my "affiliate" account but there is no way I am going to promote SW!

      My advice is to beware of Submission Works.
      As a followup to my post of a few days ago - I now show nearly 5000 impressions on a wide variety of Clickbank offers, with NO order form impressions, and obviously no sales attributable to Submission Works.

      I have no idea what kind of traffic this is. I also have no idea how these folks who say they've made sales with SW have done it. I'm not disputing anyone's word, just saying.....ya know?
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        Originally Posted by ethan97 View Post

        As a followup to my post of a few days ago - I now show nearly 5000 impressions on a wide variety of Clickbank offers, with NO order form impressions, and obviously no sales attributable to Submission Works.

        I have no idea what kind of traffic this is. I also have no idea how these folks who say they've made sales with SW have done it. I'm not disputing anyone's word, just saying.....ya know?
        Yeah, I don't doubt some people's success with SW. But I have a strong suspicion that they do promote some accounts with a better, but more expensive method in terms of either work or money to get good reviews.

        You can find a lot of "reviews" about submission works, a lot of them have "scam" in the title but end up being gushingly positive reviews. Of course their SW affiliate link is all over the site.

        You can find a few blogs were people have been ripped off by SW, but you have to go pretty far down in the search results.

        The internet marketing world is a jungle.
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          • Profile picture of the author Genycis
            I can't speak on behalf of the Submission Works people as I really don't know what goes on behind the scenes. So far though, it's been decent to me, well, let me rephrase, it's been good to me. GREAT? No. But so far, as I had mentioned on my recent blog post for my 2 months so far, I've done well enough with it to make me happy at this time.

            I attached the Clickbank screenshot onto this post of what I've earned so far with it. Am I getting a sale or two a day? No. But so far, crossing my fingers, I've been happy to make more than I've invested each month.

            So far, I've spent $179.85 (my 3rd month officially billed on the 28th), and I've managed to make $483.04 with Clickbank so far, and $50.00 from another biz opp that I first started to promote with it early on my first month... these are from items I was able to track for sure. So you figure, $533.04 is what I've made so far in 2 months, minus $119.90 for two months = $413.14 from it. So going into month 3 so far, I've not yet made a sale, but then, it's only been 2 or 3 days ago since I billed month 3. So we shall see how it pans out.

            I am hoping that the trend continues. I'll be changing up my links again perhaps tonight or tomorrow and letting them go on for a few days. The last sale I made was last Tuesday, and after a couple of days of those links being promoted, I changed them back out. I'm noticing I get my better sales on weekdays oddly enough. We shall see. I'll keep you posted on things as they continue to unfold.

            (note, I highlighted all of the Submission Works tracking items that earned me a sale in light yellow, and those with AIA in light green.. not as happy with AIA at all. We'll see how it goes)
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    • Profile picture of the author nickleback
      Originally Posted by edwin3145 View Post

      I signed up for SW about 2 weeks ago, I have tried various Clickbank offers in the IM niche, most have fairly high gravity and are popular, also tried some CPA offers in the biz op category. I even tried some programs that were free to join. So far zero sales or opt-ins. I might try some lesser know offers with less gravity...

      I am getting 100's clicks but ZERO order form impressions at Clickbank. Same is basically true for other products I promoted with SW. Seem like I am getting a lot of exit traffic from cheesy make money offers. I submitted a few of my blog posts so I could track where the traffic was coming from.

      So, for me, Submission Works is a scam. I wonder if they promote differently to some accounts so they can get a few good reviews or something, IDK.

      I sent a support ticket asking for some guidance. Got something like a form letter. I had asked for guidance on how long I should keep a link up before moving on to another offer. They did not answer the question even though I sent multiple support tickets. They don't seemed too concerned about retaining customers.

      I have cancelled my subscription, they did put $20 bucks in my "affiliate" account but there is no way I am going to promote SW!

      My advice is to beware of Submission Works.
      It's been exactly the same for me been in almost a month now. I tried all different types of links IM, weight loss, even free stuff. All I got was a lot of hops but very very few order form impressions. I'm sure I can find something better to invest in at this point.
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    10 days left on month 1. I've had this focused all in on 1 direction for about 20 days and have generated 2 leads.

    Just reconfigured for the last 10 day stretch of month 1. Added 5 additional landing pages promoting the same thing. Only takes 1 for a go at month #2 lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    I wanted to post a screenshot of what I saw earlier when I logged into my Clickbank today. I had two sales come through, two different products and one from Canada and one from US, both through Sub Works.

    So with today's two sales that came from the links I had running through the weekend, today would almost have paid for this 3rd month. One more sale for this month and the $59.95 will be paid for. Crossing fingers.. hopefully I'll be able to get another $250 or $300 month if not more. I'll keep you posted as I continue seeing what occurs with Sub Works.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimzimm
    I made 2 sales today that can only be attributed to SW totaling $57.47 in commission and increasing my first month commission to just under $200.

    I understand that there are people who aren't having success with SW, but I am happy to have had some success. I had gone about 1 week without having any sales and was getting concerned that I wasn't going to get any more. But, I now have more than 3 months of the cost covered, so there is no doubt I will continue for at least 1 more month.

    This will be my last post on this thread as there is nothing more for me to say, and I prefer to stay away from the negativity and doubts.
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  • Profile picture of the author jessmonsilva
    It seems very mixed as far as the submission works reviews on this forum, which is kind of making me unsure as whether to invest or not. I really want to give it a try but as others have said a lot of it is saturated I believe since there are lots of people promoting it on list builders and the like. I also think that most people will try and promote the mainstream programs on it, so of course if you're trying to promote mainstream programs, you won't succeed as well, but maybe that's just my thought.
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    • Profile picture of the author Genycis
      Originally Posted by jessmonsilva View Post

      It seems very mixed as far as the submission works reviews on this forum, which is kind of making me unsure as whether to invest or not. I really want to give it a try but as others have said a lot of it is saturated I believe since there are lots of people promoting it on list builders and the like. I also think that most people will try and promote the mainstream programs on it, so of course if you're trying to promote mainstream programs, you won't succeed as well, but maybe that's just my thought.
      Exactly right Jess, mixed is how it is right now, and you're right in that if you're promoting the same mainstream programs that everyone else seems to be pushing, such as Empower Network, Pure Leverage, and so forth, that you probably won't get anywhere near the results. And that's why I aimed to promote things that I thought would have a chance but not as likely to be something everyone else was promoting.

      In the end, I say it's up to the individual to try it out if they want to or not, but to say that it's scam, I don't know. So far, I cross my fingers that in all three months so far, the third month of which I just recently started, I've seen some sales from each month. I'm not even promoting it on here at all so it's not like I'm trying to make affiliate commissions with it. I'm simply sharing my posts and my experience with it so far. And so far, it's done decently well for me. I figured that if nothing else, I'd try at least one month of it, given I've invested more in things in the past, some of which helped, some of which didn't. So it's all up to your curiosity to take the chance. I'd recommend that if you DO, that you use different links, and change them out every 3 - 7 days. But even that is up to the individual.

      Best of luck to you whatever direction you do opt for.
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  • Profile picture of the author jessmonsilva
    Oh definitely. I think we all want to keep a secret if we find a way to make money simply due to the fact if everyone were to find out the way money was being made it would simply no longer work, or work less.
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    • Profile picture of the author RJS7
      Well I guess we may be hanging this one up soon. I am now getting tones of emails so-called claiming that CB+ SW= being filthy rich. I knew it would happen sooner or later. More folks have been watching this thread than you think. It's sad now people going to be going crazy over this. I am a part of a safelist I have gotten about and I kid you not 15 or more emails from some you know what who has been watching this thread with the subject line. CB+SW will make you rich. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author MelanieandMiles
    After 28 days, zero return on investment for us.

    Emailed them to cancel and got this funny response trying to keep us going...
    We have invested thousands of man hours and over 125k into our ad
    software with the goal of helping people drive targeting traffic to
    their links.

    If you feel you are not getting the service or results you expected with
    your Submission Works membership, please reply to this ticket with your
    questions/concerns or a brief description of the problems you are having
    and we will do our best to help resolve them
    Not sure why I found this funny... But I'm curious what they can do other than keep feeding us the kool-aid. I mean there are no variables to adjust.

    Seems like it either works or it doesnt.... For us, it was by far more of a waste of time and money than anything... Although this thread has been entertaining to say the least.
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        So far 2 sales for me this week thanks to Submission Works traffic (I personally heard from my new signups) 1 sale sale was for a new program I had just joined called Big Idea Mastermind, and my other sale was for Pure leverage that I'm sure most people know is fairly new and very similar to Empower Network...this thread HAS been very entertaining lol, so much good honest input from everyone here and through it I am learning a lot

        What I now know from my own results and hearing some my fellow WF'ers sharing there own feedback regarding Submission Works, is that this program definitely works (for the majority at least ) and has the potential to begin delivering results right away, and sometimes it can take a bit of time to get rolling:p I consider myself fortunate that I started receiving traffic from this program right away after joining, with signups beginning to pop in shortly after that.

        I also haven't changed in and out the links I've been promoting more than a few times and have opted to just sit tight and let the software do its thing..but I can totally understand if some people choose to use that tactic as they assess there own personal results.

        Today I am going to message the handful of signups I've received through the Submission Works service and find out if they are getting any kind of positive results promoting their own offers in any other way. I am also going to encourage them to sign up for Submission Works themselves and share with them the good results I myself have received, plus the many others in WF using them too.
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          • Profile picture of the author Antonios
            I have read most of the posts here.

            It's difficult to really see if Submission Works really works.

            Many "possitive" reviews here could be legitimate. But, then, they could be from the company owners or employees.

            Not having affiliate links here doesn't mean that you are not getting some kind of payment or compensation. I could have an understanding with the company and say look at what username "tookgood" is posting in the WF. I get some kind of compensation to write that post, without an affiliate link.

            Results are not impressive, at least, not from one should expect from SW salesletter.

            Tracking is the best way to know if your results are reliable.

            If some kind of tracking software is not allowed by SW, seek another one. Anyway, if your landing page is hosted on your hosting provider, tracking is usually a part of it. Go to your hostings cPanel.

            If you are using a capture form, most autoresponder providers include tracking with it.

            I host my domains with HostGator and use TrafficWave autoresponders, and both provide tracking features.

            If you don't use tracking you won't really know from where your clicks are coming from. Several members here have expressed that, that they don't really know if their clicks are coming from SW.

            You could be receiving hops, clicks, visits, traffic, signups, conversions, sales and they could not be from SW.

            Some times traffic is like that: you get an initial balloon of traffic and then it stops. And if hundreds of people are promoting the same thing, saturation and over exposure blindness fills in.

            And posters here could be the measuring cup that guru's use to see if certian product or service or software works or not. They don't post here, specially if what they are using really works, why should they? To get intensive competition! Nah.

            That is usually what most guru's use to see if they promote something or not.

            Have you noticed that when a Guru promotes a traffic generating product that they have used, they do it after it is already not effective, saturated, outdated, not working, extremely competitive, saturated.

            Now that the product or system is almost useless and worthless for them, then they will give it to you almost free, if not free. Or, for $ 47.

            Why would anybody give you for pennies a million dollar traffic generating system? No body in his/her real mind would do it!

            Then they say in their salesletters that they don't need the money. They even say that gurus don't know about the product. They claim that gurus will censore them if they find out that the product is being sold.

            Then you will find in their affiliate JV site that all the web gurus are promoting the product. Isn't that controversial?

            I have tried All Inclusive Ads without results.

            I haven't tried SW and really don't feel like trying it.

            Specially, with the $20 account deposit that people say they receive when they cancel their accounts so that they are stimulated to promote this software.

            If you are canceling your account, it is because you didn't get the results you expected. Why would you promote a product that you, yourself won't use?

            You would be promoting the product because of the $20 compensation and because you profit from selling the product, not from the use of the product.

            That is what many IM marketers do, they promote products, services and softwares that are worthless and useless. Products that they haven't even used to see if they really work.

            And these same IM marketers keep asking themselves why they don't convert on a long term. They have to keep getting new traffic, because the older ones know them because of their scamming attitute.

            Being honest and legitimate online as a marketer is difficult, costly, and a mentall workout. But it is very compensating emotionally and spiritually, that you can go to sleep knowing that you did your best to help other people.

            That's the real world online and offline.

            Antonios

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            • Profile picture of the author MelanieandMiles
              Originally Posted by Antonios View Post

              If you are canceling your account, it is because you didn't get the results you expected. Why would you promote a product that you, yourself won't use?

              You would be promoting the product because of the $20 compensation and because you profit from selling the product, not from the use of the product.

              That is what many IM marketers do, they promote products, services and softwares that are worthless and useless. Products that they haven't even used to see if they really work....
              After we attempted to cancel, we were indeed rebilled and had to go back through their support channels to get that rebill cancelled... Complete pain in the neck!

              Then they had the audacity to give me a $20 affiliate credit and remind me that we are still free affiliates and can promote the system.

              Wait, what?

              Promote something that doesn't work? Why would we ever put our names on something that doesn't work??? Trying to make us look bad so they can make a buck?!?

              I'd say it was a perfect ending to this waste of time and money.
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              • Profile picture of the author Antonios
                To those that have recieved the $20 affiliate credit after asking for a refund:

                :confused: Did you cashout those $20?

                That would be your income for the time spent using the system.
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                • Profile picture of the author MelanieandMiles
                  Originally Posted by Antonios View Post

                  To those that have recieved the $20 affiliate credit after asking for a refund:

                  :confused: Did you cashout those $20?

                  That would be your income for the time spent using the system.
                  Great question, but slight challenge there, tho....
                  Commissions will be paid out on request once your balance reaches $30.
                  Can't promote something we aren't willing to use/pay for ourselves, therefore this imaginary $20 will remain locked away forever in our obsolete Submission Works account.
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  • Profile picture of the author mydream247
    I think that maybe when program first started site worked great, but now it is to crowded with same offers, and some of the heavy hitters have 4 and 5 accounts, hugging all the traffic, I joined and have not made a dime, switched campaigns multiple times and all types of products not one sale but maybe choose wrong products to promote, not planning to renew after this month will cut my losses.
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        Apparently, that's why they are WSO's: they have lived their productive life, and now the way to make money with the system is to sell the system, since the system, using it, isn't making money anymore.

        Why would anybody in his/her right mind sell a million dollar system for $9 bucks?

        Because it once was profitable and now it is just a relic.
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  • Profile picture of the author jessmonsilva
    I invested in this at the beginning of the month, and I've used 14 different links. No sales on any link at all. So I'm starting to think this is a big big waste of money for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Buildyourbiz
    I suspect other people might a bit squeamish (is that even a word lol) when it comes to reporting their results as well as what programs are converting for them with their Submission Works traffic, but personally I don't mind sharing that information at all The program I have been doing the best with so far as been Pure Leverage (I am just promoting my raw Pure Leverage affiliate link in my third SW software slot. I would like to mention to everyone that I am experience a decent amount of one week $1 trial optins with roughly half of them carrying over to the next upgrade option up. I am actually quite surprised this program is converting so well considering it has been promoted rather heavily through a handful of safe lists I'm subscribed to.

    I "was" doing really well in the beginning promoting the click bank program Persuasion Profit Secrets but that one hasn't converted in ages (program saturation perhaps?) Anyway, I think I am going to drop that one and try my hand at another click bank program and hopefully find another winner until that one too eventually saturates.

    If anyone wants to pm me or post a program or two on here that is converting for them, I am all ears and would be very grateful.
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  • Profile picture of the author jessmonsilva
    I had a pl link in there as well and it didn't convert for me. odd. Anyway, yeah, I have tried several clickbank links and still nothing. I'll probably mess around with it as I have like half a month to go till I need to cancel.
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  • Profile picture of the author jessmonsilva
    it seemed that just about every link does that on the sales page, I don't know if you saw that. Yeah I found that out as well when I was putting easy tracker pro links as well, it wouldnt' let me track my clicks. at least clickbank clicks can be somewhat tracked but I was pretty annoyed that I wouldn't be able to track my pure leverage clicks because it didn't allow tracking links.
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    • Profile picture of the author ethan97
      After reporting no results with Submission Works earlier in this thread, I finally cancelled last week. Total waste of money. Over the month, I put in several high converting Clickbank offers across a variety of popular niches (make money online, weight loss, couple others).

      I set up a Clickbank campaign just for Submission Works promotions in the beginning. In the end, it reported over 5000 sales page impressions and ZERO order form impressions.

      If Submission Works was legit, I believe I could have put any Clickbank offer at all and let it run for a month on all seven slots, and get at least ONE order form view don't ya think?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ernie G
    Hi Warriors,

    I've read through this thread because I have seen promotions for Submission Works and wanted to find out what my fellow warriors had to say about it.

    Naturally I found both positive and negative comments, which is great because I wanted to see 'both sides'.

    However, I find it disturbing that some people will call something a scam simply because they didn't get the desired results. Come on people, lets be real here. If you don't see results, look to yourself first. You could have a product people don't want, a page that doesn't convert or just another 'me too' campaign (or page) that thousands of other people are promoting.

    Heck, using that philosophy you could say that blogging doesn't work because I didn't make any money, video marketing, article marketing, media buys... take your pick. Just because something doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't work at all. People have and do make money using all those methods.

    Even more disturbing are the negative comments by people who haven't even tried the product, especially those who call it a scam without having any firsthand knowledge whatsoever.

    Let's face it, as with anything in the world of internet marketing what works today may not work tonight. There are all kinds of reasons for this (so many variables) but that doesn't mean the tool has ceased to work, it simply means you need to adapt to the market.

    Everyone here claims to understand that there is no 'push button magic bullet' that is going to make one rich, but yet there remains certain people armed and ready to fling arrows at anything that doesn't produce straight away.

    I see Submission Works as just another marketing tool, nothing more, nothing less. It appears to be pretty effective for those who understand its purpose and have found which products/services convert best with it.

    Will it work for me? Who can say. But I do know should I choose to try it I won't bale until I have at least 2 months of data and have taken the time and attention to try to get it 'dialed in'.

    Thanks to all those who have given their honest results (good and not so good). It is your valuable comments that make the Warrior Forum the quality resource it is.

    Keep the faith!

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  • Profile picture of the author MelanieandMiles
    'Scam' is definitely a harsh word... Maybe 'not quite finished' or 'incomplete' is a better way of putting it. They are simply mining the miners.

    It is interesting that all of the common URL tracking services like bit.ly, for example are blocked from working within this system because they are over saturated and SWdoesn't offer any built in tracking... After spending $125,000 on a tool, you'd think they would add a component that allowed paid users to track the effectiveness (or ineffectiveness) of the tool.

    The fact that tracking is not built in is a huge red flag... Don't you think they'd want you to know how well their system was working for paid users? Or would that data allow users to quickly quantify the fact that the traffic they are delivering is indeed rubbish?

    As a marketer... If you can't track the effectiveness of a tool, what good is that tool, really? How can you test and tune anything without tracking?

    Its not a scam... But it is a crapshoot.
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  • Profile picture of the author jessmonsilva
    I too agree that it is pretty dumb if you can't put tracking links in the submission works rotator. I want to know where my tracking comes from on my links, and if I can't track them then what is the use?
    It's almost like they don't want us to know where their traffic is coming from, or that it is coming at all. With clickbank offers, you can at least see traffic anyway as well as JVZoo offers, but you can't with affiliate programs like empower network, pure leverage, and the like.
    I still find it a waste of time and this is after almost a month of trying it out and switching out URLs, but I'm glad some people at least found use for it.
    If people are willing to give me some possible URLs I definitely wouldn't mind the help via pm.
    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author jessmonsilva
    hi.
    I used bit.ly links but I also use easy tracker pro links and those were considered to be saturated as well according to the saturation checker.
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        Having read this thread, I joined both Submission Works and All Inclusive Ads for a month to see what kind of results I would get from the traffic. I tried squeeze pages for my own website as well as for affiliate offers and I also tried many different ClickBank offers related to making money online (mostly products that offered a $1 trial for the first month and then charged $47 or $97 for each month after that).

        Unfortunately, the results were non-existent as I didn't get any sales at all and no leads either (not even one opt in which is surprising as I know the squeeze pages usually convert at around 2% or more). I have therefore cancelled my membership for both services and will not be using them again.
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      • Profile picture of the author MelanieandMiles
        Thanks for the updates, all..

        Originally Posted by raywarrior1978 View Post

        Hi anderseriksson. How did you find out that submission works buys their traffic from massive traffic hits? And how did you know that there traffic comes from popunders? I am not saying you are wrong or right, I am just curious how you discover and came to that conclusion.
        Still wondering what raywarrior was asking about earlier regarding the fact that submission works may be popunder traffic from massive traffic hits.

        Has anyone discovered any other information about this or tested any other popunder traffic with the same programs???

        We never got anything converting, so I'm pretty sure it would be easy for us to replicate our 0% conversion rate in another area... But I wonder if anyone who has been converting has tried those same programs elsewhere and what their experiences were.

        Always looking for other creative sources for inexpensive traffic!! **PM's welcome if you don't want to go public with the info**
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        • Profile picture of the author CarpeDiemNow
          Hi All,

          What platform is SW on? How can you become an affiliate with SW? Any insights would be much appreciated

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  • Profile picture of the author serendipitous1
    I was on a marketing webinar last night and was surprised to see them run quite an elaborate 4 week trial on Submission Works. The results were very impressive. A total of 24 links were conversion tested, swapped out every few days based on price point, optins and sales.

    The host profited around $800 after his $60 fee in 4 weeks which is very impressive. It has really shown me that I can do a lot more then let my links sit in there hoping for conversions.

    I will be adopting some of those conversion testing strategies over the next few weeks and I'll let you know how my sales improve. I will also see if SW traffic can net me some GDI sales as its a program I've been involved with for years but have never quite made enough weekly sales to qualify for the $100 bonuses.
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    I was signed up for a month, but I didn't get any results. Since I quit a week ago, my traffic hasn't changed a bit.
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    I am going to check this out ,
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  • Profile picture of the author Genycis
    So far, I'm still making money with it, though the last couple of weeks I've been so busy with family things that I haven't been able to update the links with it til recently. So I'll continue to monitor to see how it does for me.

    So far to date with it, I've made $50 on a biz opp that I was promoting at that time (I've not made anymore with the biz opp on it since then), and I've made a total of $648.15 using it. I started on Feb 26th, 2013 so this past May 26th officially made 3 months so far, and I'm now going into my 4th month. Hoping to see more so far, but you figure, I've paid $239.80 counting the 4th month now so far, and I've made a total of $698.15 using it, so I'm still in the profit of $458.35 so far.

    The most recent sale I made using it was $16.67 for rebill promoting Bring the Fresh which was on 6/4, along with the official purchase of Bring the Fresh on 5/28 along with another product that netted me $10.10 for that 5/28 date. So all in all, so far, I've made $26.77 for this month so far after the 5/26 date. So far, every month I've paid for Submission Works so far has made more money back, so I'm confident and hopeful that I'll exceed the $59.95 for this month as well.

    As for All Inclusive Ads however, I've tried it for now going in at 4 months as well. I've only made two sales so far and the traffic doesn't seem to increase much at all after their claimed "Shares" situation. I'm hoping I make some more money with it this last month to recoup, but this will indeed be the last month I bill for it. It's a disappointment. First month was okay with it but any month after has been a flop. You'd think with 10 links vs 7, that it'd at least do decently well, but Nope. Not for me. lol.

    I'll continue to post any other results I see with Submission Works and AIA in it's last month I use it. Best of success.
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    • Profile picture of the author Buildyourbiz
      I appreciate those who pm'd me with programs that have been converting well for them within the Submission Works software. My own upgrades are now substantially up since joining a few of the sites some of you recommended, and then inputting them into the SW software.

      Originally Posted by Genycis View Post

      So far to date with it, I've made $50 on a biz opp that I was promoting at that time (I've not made anymore with the biz opp on it since then), and I've made a total of $648.15 using it. I started on Feb 26th, 2013 so this past May 26th officially made 3 months so far, and I'm now going into my 4th month. Hoping to see more so far, but you figure, I've paid $239.80 counting the 4th month now so far, and I've made a total of $698.15 using it, so I'm still in the profit of $458.35 so far.

      The most recent sale I made using it was $16.67 for rebill promoting Bring the Fresh which was on 6/4, along with the official purchase of Bring the Fresh on 5/28 along with another product that netted me $10.10 for that 5/28 date. So all in all, so far, I've made $26.77 for this month so far after the 5/26 date. So far, every month I've paid for Submission Works so far has made more money back, so I'm confident and hopeful that I'll exceed the $59.95 for this month as well.
      Hi Genycis, thanks for sharing your honest experiences with us all. Glad to hear from someone else making good sales from SW month after month.
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  • Profile picture of the author jessmonsilva
    I tried to cancel my membership with submission works and can't seem to do so. They charged me again for their service and I contacted customer service twice. I'm going to try again soon as the month is ending soonish and hoping they answer me, otherwise I might have some issues to talk with my bank about. Their program was major no go for me, I got absolutely nothing in sales, though plenty of hops according to clickbank
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    • Profile picture of the author operationbob
      It seems like the reports of those seeing results and those seeing nothing are about even. I wonder if there's some variable that's making the difference?

      When you guys are promoting things like CB offers are you directing the link to your own landing page first or are you just sending them straight to the vendors sales page?

      (Just trying to think of what the differences may be, taking all reported experiences at face value)

      I decided the only way to determine it's effectiveness for me is to spend the $60 and find out. So, we shall see. I'll report back on my experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author quantumlouie
    I am very curious about this program. I have seen it being promoted heavily on safelists for a few months now. Safelist Ads promoting it seem to be targeted towards Empower Network, Pure Leverage and Big Idea Mastermind. There are two affiliates promoting it heavily. They might be really two different people but for some reason I think its really the same person promoting it under different pen names.
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