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Unread 23rd February 2013, 09:04 AM   #51
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No you don't need any software to start out with. Don't believe in softwares when he teaches you how to do the stuff manually.
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Andrew is an honest as as credible as they come. Not because I'm a fellow Aussie, but because the guy lives it day in day out, and so he knows his stuff.

I've been doing this over 10 years, and of all the marketers and products I've come across during those years, I can count the credible, honest marketers on one hand, and Andrew is in the top 3 for sure.
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Is there real value in this course at the basic level ($67) ???
I can't swing $497.
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I bought the main FA course and when presented with the $497 OTO,
I passed on it and got the second downsell OTO which is the same as
the $497 one except I don't get personal consultation and don't get on
the live training. The second OTO is $297

I still can get support and help with the course but not personally with
Andrew.
I still get the training, but not live, I get the replay videos. For me it was
worth saving $200 and just go for normal support and replay videos.
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Hey foxtrot3,

I'm certain the coaching program is valuable but there's a lot of information in the $67 package. The coaching might speed things up - depending on your available time and work habits - but I think the basic product will provide everything you need.

It's really a very complete course. I'm still only on the first few videos and I get more impressed with every one.
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I bought the main FA course and when presented with the $497 OTO,
I passed on it and got the second downsell OTO which is the same as
the $497 one except I don't get personal consultation and don't get on
the live training. The second OTO is $297

I still can get support and help with the course but not personally with
Andrew.
I still get the training, but not live, I get the replay videos. For me it was
worth saving $200 and just go for normal support and replay videos.
Thanks for the tip, but do you get access to the outsource list and his people he mentions in the first Oto?

Is there anything else you Do Not Get (other than what you said) in OTO 2?
When I bought the initial course didn't get an opportunity for oto 2. It wasn't there.

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What does the done for you package entail? I would be interested in several sites if all from the course is applied to a completed site and product to market. Thanks for any info you may have.
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Thanks for the tip, but do you get access to the outsource list and his people he mentions in the first Oto?

Is there anything else you Do Not Get (other than what you said) in OTO 2?
When I bought the initial course didn't get an opportunity for oto 2. It wasn't there.

Thx Bill
I big misconception amongst many is that you only get access to the outsourcers if you buy the OTO. Truth is you get access to the outsourcers ANYWAY - you just have to pay them each time you order from them that's all. I didn't buy the OTO's but I did get the standard course, and as some1 who's been dabbling in IM for over 5 years and serious about it for the last 2 I can assure you it's well worth it even without the OTO's.

In fact, if you're like me and have been around awhile already, I think the OTO's are probably "not worth it" for you. I say that in quotes because I have no doubt it would be amazingly worth it for newer IMers
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Many of these reviews seem to have been posted by big time supporters of Andrew Hansen. All ra ra, he's the greatest without any focus on the real meat of the sandwich.

Has anybody done the course or used known techniques and actually built sites that make more than $10 a month??

If we stump up the cash, do the training, build and promote the sites will we get the promised results.

You must realize there are hundreds of hours involved in all this and so many of these schemes do not produce the desired outcome!!

And if the methods work so well why is he building and selling training courses to sell to a thirsty audience. All who are trying without succeeding. Of the 100 people who buy the full course I bet less than 5% get to an earning stage!

Come on guys get real. Can the BS. We want achievable results not thousands of hours of mind numbing talk!
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Well said wingman, but what would be the story if they were all negative? You have to accept that there is some decent content in this thread that does carry weight.

As well, the people Andrew associates with in the sales letter, and the person who put me onto this offer are as solid as the rock of Gibralta - there is no bull shit here I can tell you.

Like anybody Andrew has a business to run, and if he can sell a system that has made him money that people will buy, then good luck to him. He has been around for a while and in this business your reputation is key. I don't see any negative comments about poor performance in this thread?

But it's your decision - perhaps "read between the lines" mate.
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I bought this two days ago, and as I was going throught the videos, it all seemed like very sound information, and I did learn a thing or two.

When I started implementing the steps in phase 1, my research came to a screeching halt. The tool recommended for competitive backlink research costs $79 per month and upwards.
pretty pricey if you ask me. I did send a ticket to the support desk asking if a cheaper alternative was recommended, so I will reserve judgement and wait for a reply. I know there are other tools out there, but at first glance, none of them seem to do the same job that the recommended tool does. So I spent a few hours going down that rabbit hole, which was disappointing.

I will update when I hear back from the support desk. I would appreciate any suggestions from other warriors for a backlink research tool while I wait. My research is DITW as of now.

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I bought this two days ago, and as I was going throught the videos, it all seemed like very sound information, and I did learn a thing or two.

When I started implementing the steps in phase 1, my research came to a screeching halt. The tool recommended for competitive backlink research costs $79 per month and upwards.
pretty pricey if you ask me. I did send a ticket to the support desk asking if a cheaper alternative was recommended, so I will reserve judgement and wait for a reply. I know there are other tools out there, but at first glance, none of them seem to do the same job that the recommended tool does. So I spent a few hours going down that rabbit hole, which was disappointing.

I will update when I hear back from the support desk. I would appreciate any suggestions from other warriors for a backlink research tool while I wait. My research is DITW as of now.

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Surprised nobody else has mentioned this yet in this thread.
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Surprised nobody else has mentioned this yet in this thread.
The tools he recommends are just recommendations, and in this case he actually talks about the free account. As already mentioned, there are many backlink software analysers, and that doesn't make the course worth any less. It's common sense that you'd need to analyse the competition's backlinks - I do it right now in my current campaigns, don't you?

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I bought this two days ago, and as I was going throught the videos, it all seemed like very sound information, and I did learn a thing or two.

When I started implementing the steps in phase 1, my research came to a screeching halt. The tool recommended for competitive backlink research costs $79 per month and upwards.
pretty pricey if you ask me. I did send a ticket to the support desk asking if a cheaper alternative was recommended, so I will reserve judgement and wait for a reply. I know there are other tools out there, but at first glance, none of them seem to do the same job that the recommended tool does. So I spent a few hours going down that rabbit hole, which was disappointing.

I will update when I hear back from the support desk. I would appreciate any suggestions from other warriors for a backlink research tool while I wait. My research is DITW as of now.

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I'm currently using Link-Assistant's SEO Spyglass. There's also a monthly "search engine algo update" fee - think if you get only SEO Spyglass and not the other programs they sell it's about $20-odd per month for it, and in theory you don't actually need the updates to run the software although I wouldn't try it.

There's also a free version which may suit you perfectly since the only limitation if I recall correctly is that you can't save the project.

Without hijacking this thread by writing a review on SEO Spyglass, I can tell you it's pretty good for a standalone desktop application. However, in general Link Assistant's tools seem to struggle under high volume, so if it scrapes thousands of links links I suggest you analyse them IN CHUNKS as the program tends to freeze up if you do too many at a time. Check the PR of all the links, then analyse only the high PR links (that's what works for me). Save often! You may also consider using proxies with this program, and check out their "Human emulation" settings too.

Oh, and it won't tell you over what period links were built, but honestly while that's a "nice to have" metric I don't find that info vital. I just look at the domain's age and strength of the backlinks and draw my own conclusions from that.

It's also considerably slower than using a 3rd party system since it runs all the scrapes and analysis on request directly from the program. This is unfortunately the price you pay for not using a 3rd party analysis system such as MajesticSEO, Ahrefs etc which use already obtained and analysed data in their system to generate their results.

He mentioned using Ahrefs in Phase 1 - you can get a free account there.

Overall though I'm still using SEO Spyglass. The data's pretty good and I'm quite sure it'll manage just fine with the type of competition you'd be analysing relative to what's outlined in the course material.
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I recommend anything Andrew puts out, he is the real deal. I have proof of income over at my blog and also bonuses for this course if anyone is interest. I have used his strategies and can assist anyone get results with his teachings combined with mine.

I can truly vouch for him as a successful student of his.

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But you haven't updated your blog since August 2011.
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Neither have I. So?
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"Note: This special offer will not be available again if you close this page, and is ONLY valid until March 1st, after which the price of Forever Affiliate doubles."

When you close the page and re-try it - it is available again. Shady marketing.
It doesn't seem to work for me - I've tried it a few times -

Has anyone else got the $1 trial since this message was put up?

Edit: Managed to get it now after a few more tries!
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Neither have I. So?
No one would listen to the recommendation of someone from a deserted blog with no ranking or at least I won't.
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No one would listen to the recommendation of someone from a deserted blog with no ranking or at least I won't.
He's not trying to sell you anything . He's giving his personal experience. Surely a longstanding client of Andrew's has something relevant to contribute in this thread? Whether you choose to consider his endorsement on merit is your call, but in terms of his blog, which one did you visit? It looks pretty updated to me... http://commissiondiary.com/

Anyway I wouldn't discount people's contributions so cavalierly. Just because I, for example, haven't updated my personal site / blog / Facebook profile in what feels like a decade doesn't mean I don't have anything valuable to contribute in this community. After all, IM / SEO / WebDev is my livelihood nonetheless.
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RuggeroSB, thanks for your recommendation. I will certainly give SEO spyglass a look. I did get a response from the help desk at FA, but it was basically, "There's a lot of backlink analyzer tools out there. Here is a link you might find helpful." Not a specific recommendation.

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RuggeroSB, thanks for your recommendation. I will certainly give SEO spyglass a look. I did get a response from the help desk at FA, but it was basically, "There's a lot of backlink analyzer tools out there. Here is a link you might find helpful." Not a specific recommendation.

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My pleasure bjallen! Ya I'd have guessed you would've gotten a canned response like that. Andrew did point out that the support desk isn't going to be much help in the "advice" department. They're likely there more to ensure the smooth running of the logistics of the course, payments etc. Hence the OTO includes his email address

Best of luck!
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Many of these reviews seem to have been posted by big time supporters of Andrew Hansen. All ra ra, he's the greatest without any focus on the real meat of the sandwich.

Has anybody done the course or used known techniques and actually built sites that make more than $10 a month??

If we stump up the cash, do the training, build and promote the sites will we get the promised results.

You must realize there are hundreds of hours involved in all this and so many of these schemes do not produce the desired outcome!!


I wouldn't call myself a big time supporter of Andrew (I don't even know the guy), I do know from experience that his methods work though. I read Niche Marketing On Crack back in the day, and more recently Unstoppable Affiliate, and the methods in this are similar - just updated for 2013.

I have a number of sites built using the same methods and I would say $300+ per site per month (average) is a pretty accurate estimate. I have sites that didn't work at all (usually due to choosing the wrong product or keywords), I have some that make a few hundred a month, and some that make $1000+ per month. All are simple product review sites like Andrew teaches. I could post earnings proof but there wouldn't be any point - I can't prove that my earnings are from Andrew's methods specifically. Anyway, what I earn using the methods won't necessarily reflect what someone else will - you might not make as much as me or you might make way more.

I do believe that if you stump up the cash, do the training, and build and promote the sites, you should make money with this method. IMHO as a successful affiliate marketer this course covers all the bases. I'm in the process of starting a new blog at the moment and I'm thinking of doing a Forever Affiliate case study building some new niche blogs from scratch - I'll put the link in my sig when I'm ready in case anyone is interested.

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And if the methods work so well why is he building and selling training courses to sell to a thirsty audience. All who are trying without succeeding. Of the 100 people who buy the full course I bet less than 5% get to an earning stage!
Why does anyone sell training course in IM? Because it adds to your bottom line, you build a list of buyers etc. Product creation is one of the best ways to make money because once your product is ready you can continue selling it and make passive income for a long time to come (or until it goes out of date at least).

The reason the success rate is so low with most IM products is because buyers just don't take action - they're buying the dream and aren't willing to put in the time and effort it takes to be successful.
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For someone like me who gave up on affiliate marketing a few years ago, but still have sites up that make money even though I'm doing nothing, Forever Affiliate is a good refresher course.

BTW those sites of mine make about $200-300 a month. Pitiful, I know. In the past I was constantly working on them and then just became exhausted and disappointed after penguin and panda and just let them sit there.

In Forever Affiliate there are some new and (I think) correct ways to do this without exhausting yourself. The method Andrew is showing has streamlined the process for me and I feel will make it faster to get the right (hopefully) product/keywords and start building sites quickly.

This course structures the process so if you do one step at a time you won't get distracted or overwhelmed. I've found some things I want to promote and this week will start building the sites and I'll let you know how it goes. It is going to take a few months of work though.

Personally, Forever Affiliate is a good "refresher/updating" course for people who have done some affiliate marketing, know there is money out there to be made, and want to get back in the game. For newbies...I'm not so sure. Very experienced and successful marketers obviously don't need this.
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I bought this two days ago, and as I was going throught the videos, it all seemed like very sound information, and I did learn a thing or two.

When I started implementing the steps in phase 1, my research came to a screeching halt. The tool recommended for competitive backlink research costs $79 per month and upwards.
pretty pricey if you ask me. I did send a ticket to the support desk asking if a cheaper alternative was recommended, so I will reserve judgement and wait for a reply. I know there are other tools out there, but at first glance, none of them seem to do the same job that the recommended tool does. So I spent a few hours going down that rabbit hole, which was disappointing.

I will update when I hear back from the support desk. I would appreciate any suggestions from other warriors for a backlink research tool while I wait. My research is DITW as of now.

Thanks,
BJ
This guy does it on Fiverr. Integr will create 7 full pro ahrefs site explorer reports each report consists of one link per domain report + all backlinks report for $5, only on fiverr.com

Haven't tried it yet.
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I wouldn't call myself a big time supporter of Andrew (I don't even know the guy), I do know from experience that his methods work though. I read Niche Marketing On Crack back in the day, and more recently Unstoppable Affiliate, and the methods in this are similar - just updated for 2013.

I have a number of sites built using the same methods and I would say $300+ per site per month (average) is a pretty accurate estimate. I have sites that didn't work at all (usually due to choosing the wrong product or keywords), I have some that make a few hundred a month, and some that make $1000+ per month. All are simple product review sites like Andrew teaches. I could post earnings proof but there wouldn't be any point - I can't prove that my earnings are from Andrew's methods specifically. Anyway, what I earn using the methods won't necessarily reflect what someone else will - you might not make as much as me or you might make way more.

I do believe that if you stump up the cash, do the training, and build and promote the sites, you should make money with this method. IMHO as a successful affiliate marketer this course covers all the bases. I'm in the process of starting a new blog at the moment and I'm thinking of doing a Forever Affiliate case study building some new niche blogs from scratch - I'll put the link in my sig when I'm ready in case anyone is interested.

Why does anyone sell training course in IM? Because it adds to your bottom line, you build a list of buyers etc. Product creation is one of the best ways to make money because once your product is ready you can continue selling it and make passive income for a long time to come (or until it goes out of date at least).

The reason the success rate is so low with most IM products is because buyers just don't take action - they're buying the dream and aren't willing to put in the time and effort it takes to be successful.
Congratulations on getting regular income from affiliate sites. With Google's efforts to "kill off" these sites recently its great that you have survived.

Clearly methods you have learned and implemented prior to Penguin etc still work? Is that because they are review sites? and therefore have some "authority"?

Is your traffic organic or paid?

Impressed by your offer to post the url for you new site. I would be keen to see it.

Its not just a matter of doing the work to get the results its about doing the right work. There are millions of businesses and websites built by some very smart, dedicated people that dont work! Tools that clearly tell you if your offer will work before you build it would be extremely valuable.
Like the adword strategy that no longer works. Advertise an offer, send to a landing page and measure the conversion at different levels. When they get to the product explain its a research project and if they answer some questions the product will be built and given to them for free. You could tell in a couple of days whether it was worth putting 200 hours into the project.
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I don't know Andrew Hansen personally, it just seems to me that if he was a caring, conscientious, smart, warm-hearted guy as some people claim him to be, then he would offer a support forum for those who have questions about any gaps or stumbling blocks a user might be presented with. It's not a stretch to assume, and ya just gotta believe, that there are going to be people who, while watching one of his training videos, will inevitably have a question about a methodology that needs to be answered. Especially noobs.

And if it's not a question about something ambiguous in a training video that needs to be answered, then maybe it's a good, plausible question about something else related to IM. You'll often hear Andrew Hansen talk about all the free time he has. Oh, that I believe, especially when you consider that he has the option to outsource a great bulk of work that goes into being a successful marketer. Plain and simple: in my opinion, he needs to get off his vacation-traveling, jet-setting butt and construct a discussion forum!

Mr. Hansen, where's your empathy? You do realize that after we watch one of your training videos we might have a question that needs to be answered, or a strategy that we'd like to discuss. I'm not a certified optician, but due to your great success I suggest that you just might have a touch of tunnel vision because I'm here to tell you that not all of us are experts at IM. In fact, many of us are either noobs just starting out, veterans struggling to be successful or virtual losers when it comes to Internet marketing...
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I don't know Andrew Hansen personally, it just seems to me that if he was a caring, conscientious, smart, warm-hearted guy as some people claim him to be, then he would offer a support forum for those who have questions about any gaps or stumbling blocks a user might be presented with. It's not a stretch to assume, and ya just gotta believe, that there are going to be people who, while watching one of his training videos, will inevitably have a question about a methodology that needs to be answered. Especially noobs.

And if it's not a question about something ambiguous in a training video that needs to be answered, then maybe it's a good, plausible question about something else related to IM. You'll often hear Andrew Hansen talk about all the free time he has. Oh, that I believe, especially when you consider that he has the option to outsource a great bulk of work that goes into being a successful marketer. Plain and simple: in my opinion, he needs to get off his vacation-traveling, jet-setting butt and construct a discussion forum!

Mr. Hansen, where's your empathy? You do realize that after we watch one of your training videos we might have a question that needs to be answered, or a strategy that we'd like to discuss. I'm not a certified optician, but due to your great success I suggest that you just might have a touch of tunnel vision because I'm here to tell you that not all of us are experts at IM. In fact, many of us are either noobs just starting out, veterans struggling to be successful or virtual losers when it comes to Internet marketing...
I feel your pain. I'd bet that most warrior forum members have been in similar places while learning.

I'd like to note that I received and email from Andrew yesterday answering a question that someone had sent him, and clarifying some points about the lessons in FA.

It can be hard to answer super specific questions on an individual level because each project will be a little different. Various niches will be different, and in the hands of two marketers the same niche will get different results. Not huge differences-the basic process still applies-but tiny things.

The best thing to do is get started-ready, fire, aim. Get it going, then make corrections as needed. Once you have a basic process-whether from FA or another good course-this forum can be a great place to hammer out the details, and get second(or third) opinions.

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He's not trying to sell you anything . He's giving his personal experience. Surely a longstanding client of Andrew's has something relevant to contribute in this thread? Whether you choose to consider his endorsement on merit is your call, but in terms of his blog, which one did you visit? It looks pretty updated to me... Affiliate Marketing Blog: $100 Day Commission Diary

Anyway I wouldn't discount people's contributions so cavalierly. Just because I, for example, haven't updated my personal site / blog / Facebook profile in what feels like a decade doesn't mean I don't have anything valuable to contribute in this community. After all, IM / SEO / WebDev is my livelihood nonetheless.
Why is he offering bonuses if he's not selling anything?

I was actually looking at the site in his userId - The way I look at this, if someone's offering an SEO service on a website which is either not ranked or lowly ranked, would you still buy his services?!!!

In any case, I have now bought Andrew's stuff with a $1 trial and I'm going through the course, so it's all academecial now

Watching Andrew teaching this stuff is just as enjoyable as watching a good Hollywood movie and hoping that this stuff will eventually help me make some decent money after all -- the only thing that I can see stopping it that I can see so far will be the cost of paying for the content to be written professionally. It would cost on average $100 per site for the content and I want no one to tell me that I can write the content myself - NO I CAN'T - I HATE WRITING MY OWN CONTENT SO MUCH
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Why is he offering bonuses if he's not selling anything?

I was actually looking at the site in his userId - The way I look at this, if someone's offering an SEO service on a website which is either not ranked or lowly ranked, would you still buy his services?!!!

In any case, I have now bought Andrew's stuff with a $1 trial and I'm going through the course, so it's all academecial now

Watching Andrew teaching this stuff is just as enjoyable as watching a good Hollywood movie and hoping that this stuff will eventually help me make some decent money after all -- the only thing that I can see stopping it that I can see so far will be the cost of paying for the content to be written professionally. It would cost on average $100 per site for the content and I want no one to tell me that I can write the content myself - NO I CAN'T - I HATE WRITING MY OWN CONTENT SO MUCH
Ok, so he's trying to sell you something on his website (who isn't), and you clearly landed on a different website to the one I did. Any event, his post wasn't "ra-ra click on my link for free bonuses" - that's all I was saying.

But yes, it's academic at this point .

$100 per site? So, 10 pages x $10 each? Well, there are cheaper options. I have a source that's much cheaper than $10 and the quality's good enough (English is good, no spelling /grammer problems, relevant - closer to $5 per article) and to my recollection I'm pretty sure Andrew says a mini-site can start with 5 pages?

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Yeah, Andrew is very professional - this is a great course. My recommendation is Buy it now
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$100 per site? So, 10 pages x $10 each? Well, there are cheaper options. I have a source that's much cheaper than $10 and the quality's good enough (English is good, no spelling /grammer problems, relevant - closer to $5 per article) and to my recollection I'm pretty sure Andrew says a mini-site can start with 5 pages?

I'll b happy to share my article source with you if you want - PM me.
Andrew's recommending 800 word articles which I agree with myself as I have a mini-stie atm with 400 word pages and it's not getting the desired results. (10 page sites should perform better and should keep visitors longer on the site hopefully).

So if your source charges $5 per 800 word artilces then I'd be happy to use your source
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If you want to check out competitor's link network, another option is Market Samurai. I've use Link-Assist tools, just couldn't get on with them.
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Andrew's recommending 800 word articles which I agree with myself as I have a mini-stie atm with 400 word pages and it's not getting the desired results. (10 page sites should perform better and should keep visitors longer on the site hopefully).

So if your source charges $5 per 800 word artilces then I'd be happy to use your source
Heh 5 bucks for a "good" 800 word article? No such luck there so far!

No the guys I'm using charge 750+ words @ $7.95 each. They have bulk discount options on a sliding scale - the more you buy the cheaper they are, but their lowest for 750+ is $7.35 and you have to buy at least 75 articles.

Still not bad though.

They also have a "High Quality" articles option available @ $2.55 per 100 words. I've never tried this option and frankly so far I have never needed to. Their "standard" quality I've found to be perfectly good enough.
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One options is American Article Writers, Freelance Article Writing Service - Articlez.com, although speaking as someone that on occasion does write for others (mostly for myself, as I enjoy it), don't be too cheap, remember those people, just like you, need to make a living.
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I have MS too. Honestly don't like their "AC" Rank which they assign to the backlinks. I much prefer to see Google PR since that's pretty much the defacto standard these days for determining link juice, esp. since we're dealing with Google for the most part.

Plus, while I agree that Link Assistant's software isn't even close perfect, and frankly sometimes downright annoying when it misbehaves, MS has its moments too, and their user interface is also pretty counterinuitive imo.
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Jumbo Article 801-900 words $29. Ouch. Better be an amazing article for that price. Ok ya they need to make a living, but generally accepted market prices are also a consideration.
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I think it might be wise for us to put less weight on Page Rank these days.

This from Google Webmaster Central's FAQ:

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A: Don't worry. In fact, don't bother thinking about it. We only update the PageRank displayed in Google Toolbar a few times a year; this is our respectful hint for you to worry less about PageRank, which is just one of over 200 signals that can affect how your site is crawled, indexed and ranked. PageRank is an easy metric to focus on, but just because it's easy doesn't mean it's useful for you as a site owner. If you're looking for metrics, we'd encourage you to check out Analytics, think about conversion rates, ROI (return on investment), relevancy, or other metrics that actually correlate to meaningful gains for your website or business.
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I think it might be wise for us to put less weight on Page Rank these days.

This from Google Webmaster Central's FAQ:

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More misinformation. While I agree it's not the only signal, it's still an incredibly important factor in valuing the weight of links. I know this from my own personal testing. Believe me 10 000 links from pages with no PR carry almost no weight when compared to just a handful of links originating from high PR sites. I've done both, and now do a blend of the two. Try it - you'll see.

And don't believe everything Google "volunteers" . Besides, in this case they're not talking about how PR affects a link's weight in terms of Off-page SEO. They're simply telling webmasters to "ignore" the PR. Rightly so since PR outside of Off-Page SEO projects doesn't mean a whole lot.

They also say (broadly) that "link building is bad", and you should focus on just building an awesome website with amazing, unique content and the rest will happen on it's own. Ya right!

Incidentally, Andrew mentions in this course that the only true "assets" you have in this industry is the data you've acquired from your own testing, NOT what others say or do, least of all Google. In my experience, he's dead right.
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Has anyone else noticed that the case study site that Andrew uses in the course (Pregnancy Miracle: Will It Work For You? My Comprehensive Investigation.) is nowhere to be seen in the SERPs and according to ahrefs.com and opensiteexplorer, there are next to no backlinks! (Considering this was the site he was ordering the backlinking for in the Videos, doesn't it seem odd?)

Maybe it's been hit by a Google penalty? In which case, what does this say about the FA course?

Thoughts?
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Pregnancy Miracle was a case study...no more...never a real site that he was using to pursue affiliate business...just a template of what and how to set up and analyze potential affiliate sites.
Okay, thanks for clarifying.
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Through out the course I have used a few techniques to find profitable affiliate offers and I have only came up with one and he says 5 would be good to start out with. I have been looking in the health niche to find some potential affiliate offers, but most of them don't meet the first criteria on the analysis funnel he has shared with us in his training.
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Today for me was dissapointing I looked for so many brand name keywords mostly in the health niche and I have only came across a few niches with product names that meet the first criteria bur the competition was hard to beat. I could have done maybe a few mistakes but im considering going ahead and start that first affiliate offer and hold off on finding the other 4.
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Today for me was dissapointing I looked for so many brand name keywords mostly in the health niche and I have only came across a few niches with product names that meet the first criteria bur the competition was hard to beat. I could have done maybe a few mistakes but im considering going ahead and start that first affiliate offer and hold off on finding the other 4.
I've not bought the course but checking out the feedback as Andrews a credible marketer so can't relate to the exact methods he uses but..

for examples purpose.. if you're in health FOOD niche looking for exact product and can't find one are you trying... health food BARS or protein bars with exact product names?

Go wide I guess is what I"m thinking and trying to say. I see you've been around here so I'm sure you're trying that but thought I'd check.

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Today for me was dissapointing I looked for so many brand name keywords mostly in the health niche and I have only came across a few niches with product names that meet the first criteria bur the competition was hard to beat. I could have done maybe a few mistakes but im considering going ahead and start that first affiliate offer and hold off on finding the other 4.
Other 4? I'm not trying to bust your balls, not at all ZS, but Andrew Hansen says you're supposed to be able to find not 5 but 10 weird, odd niches "quickly and easily."

About that one niche that you did find, is it a freaking all-out weirdo as Andrew Hansen says it should be? Because that's the goal, the whole enchilada.

Here's a an excerpt transcribed from a webinar AH gave a week or two ago. He makes some pretty amazing, mind-blowing claims about how a person should be able, with his training, to 1) find 10 weird, niche markets QUICKLY and EASILY and 2) convert with only 5 or 10 visitors per day. Here's the jist of his premise, as transcribed from the webinar during a presentation he gave:

"One site, 6 pages, very, very little tiny indeed (the website). It's a very simple plain looking site. This particular site profits $1195 a month. The full potential for this site is closer to the $3000 mark. But this is a very plain site, a very simple site that monetizes affiliate links and uses all free traffic. This is the kind of web property, you build up a few of these, this can support, for the most part, any type of lifestyle you'd want to lead without you, having to, fill up the whole thing(?) The way that I set up these sites is a 3 step system, it's very simple stuff:

"The first step to setting up a site like this is WEIRD LITTLE MARKETS. We're gonna talk about that in a moment.

"The second step is DROP DEAD EASY SITES.

"So...weird little markets and in those markets I build really simple little sites. But simple sites that really cater to the people that they're designed for.

"The third part of that process is to get free, high conversion traffic to that site. So...that's search engine traffic for me in this model.

"So the first step, WEIRD LITTLE MARKETS, I try to find the small, small, small pockets of people, all over the Internet, that spend serious money on every day WEIRD little passions. Targeting these small groups of people means we don't have to compete against big companies with big teams and big resources. And that's what I'm always looking for: these small pockets of people that have a real deep interest and passion in one very specific thing, a thing I can usually help sell them on.

"They're passionate about a thing, or a group of things, that they don't yet have. Those markets mean easy conversions and big money from small traffic. That's very, very important to understand. When you operate in one of these small markets you don't need a huge amount of traffic to make great money. That's very, very important to understand. When you operate in one of these small markets you don't need a huge amount of traffic to make GREAT money. We're gonna talk about that as well...the way that you can make affiliate sales with as little as 5 or 10 visitors to your site, maybe per day for example.

"The thing about these markets is that they're not found in common places. Forget Clickbank, CJ, Amazon, etc. These offers are not found in the most common places. And that is one of the reasons that these markets have little or lower competition because other affiliates can't get their hands on them as easily.

"That's one of the reasons why I like OfferVault as a tool and I've used it for so long now and I continue to recommend it to other people because it brings you affiliate offers from other places outside of those ones from different networks, little networks, obscure networks that you might not know about otherwise.

"And if you find one of these little passions they can make you a lot of money. What's crazy about these markets is that they're so very powerful but you need techniques for finding them most of the time. You can't just go to one of these sites like CB or Amazon or ShareSale and expect to uncover them. There are techniques that you use to find them, to come across them. Developing these techniques has been, because I realize for every one that you can find there's a potential income stream for years to come. So it's extremely lucrative. So I worked on developing these techniques for finding these offers.

"You gotta make sure you find a weird, little market that is outside the scope of normal affiliates. The system that I'm talking about here is one that I have refined over 7 years now. This is the 2013 version, this is the one that I'm doing right now. This is the best of the best. What I did with this information, the system we've been talking about today, I've made this system into an entire video course where I basically recorded myself going through this entire process from start to finish, from beginning to end.

"This course includes my 10 best techniques for finding those WEIRD LITTLE NICHE MARKETS. Just one of those techniques, if you used it, could QUICKLY find you 10 markets like the ones we talked about today, 10 markets worth a $1000 a month each, very quickly and easily.

"The technique I showed you today is not one of the 10 techniques. There's ten better ones even than that for finding those ten WEIRD LITTLE NICHE MARKETS. Just one of those techniques, if you actually used it, could quickly find you 10 markets like the ones we talked about today, but even if they were lower end, 10 markets that were worth a $1000 a month each. Very, very quickly and easily."

The webinar is about his Forever Affiliate course. It was made in February 2013. It can be found by >going to OfferVaults home page >scroll down to the bottom left hand side >click on the Andrew Hansen link. There was a lot more stuff that he talked about that I did not publish to this post. Of course when it comes to "quickly and easily" or "speed and efficiency" depending on the person, your mileage may vary? And I ended that last sentence with a question mark because I have no way of knowing if Mr. Hansen's 10 techniques for finding 10 weird niches quickly and easily is something that a person, or guinea pig, can achieve. Or in other words, one might speculate that what AH said in the webinar just might qualify for the the It-sounds-too-good-to-be-true category.
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Of course when it comes to "quickly and easily" or "speed and efficiency" depending on the person, your mileage may vary?
I think it does depend on the person and the experience they already have. I found my 5 products within about 2 hours after watching the videos (and I did so relatively quickly and easily).

I'm not new to affiliate marketing though, and I do realise it is difficult for newbies when starting out. I already had experience with niche research, and although I did follow Andrew's videos I think it does take practice. I'm a member of about 20 affiliate networks and because I'm already familiar with many of them, I already know many of the products.

One thing I can guarantee, and that is the more research you do, the quicker you will get at it. Even if you are finding it tricky now, eventually it will become second nature. Niche research can be quick and easy, but probably as more experienced marketers we forget that at one time it wasn't.
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I think it does depend on the person and the experience they already have. I found my 5 products within about 2 hours after watching the videos (and I did so relatively quickly and easily).

I'm not new to affiliate marketing though, and I do realise it is difficult for newbies when starting out. I already had experience with niche research, and although I did follow Andrew's videos I think it does take practice. I'm a member of about 20 affiliate networks and because I'm already familiar with many of them, I already know many of the products.

One thing I can guarantee, and that is the more research you do, the quicker you will get at it. Even if you are finding it tricky now, eventually it will become second nature. Niche research can be quick and easy, but probably as more experienced marketers we forget that at one time it wasn't.
I am a newbie when its comes to affiliate marketing, I guess if you want to say, I am still a newbie. I love Andrew Hansen's course, I am probably not looking hard enough probably to find the other niche affiliate offers. I will still keep looking.
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Just purchased Forever Affiliate. The information looks great, but one problem, all of the videos are flash based. There are no download links for the videos to review them offline from Firefox on a Mac. Somewhat disappointing. I see there is a transcript of each video available but maybe someone can tell me where the download links for the videos because it is easier to view the videos off line if possible.
* STEP-1 : Instal Firefox on your system.

* STEP-2 : Go to - Flash Video Downloader Downloads flash video from Google, Metacafe, Daylimotion and other video sharing websites

On a right side in its middle there is :

" Firefox users: download your favorite videos in 1 click - install our free extension!
Install Flash Video Downloader for Firefox from mozilla.com!"

* STEP-3 : Click on it and open - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...oader-youtube/

* STEP-4 : And install from it Flash Video Downloader - Youtube Downloader 3.8.2 , it is a Firefox Add-On

* STEP-5 : Follow its instruction : Flash Video Downloader loads videos from fa member area in *.mp4 format.

* STEP-6 : You can play videos with free VLC : - VideoLAN - Official page for VLC media player, the Open Source video framework!
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I have the course and I don't think Andrew has been detailed or clear enough on finding those 10 weird niches quickly and easily.

Weird niches, that can survive the analysis funnel, are very hard to find in my opinion.

I suspect there will be another product for him to sell on just how to find weird niches.

If anyone here has a method for finding weird niches that they would like to share that would be very helpful.
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I agree lovebostons. I have probably put 40-50 products in the funnel he mentions and been unable to find anything that fits the criteria yet. Not used every method he mentions yet but most. Been looking mainly in health niche. I think embarrassing niches may be the way to go. This maybe what he means by weird?! Not a nice niche to be in but they are only mini sites.
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I can relate to finding weird niche with his criteria and I have only found one product in particular that does meet his criteria. But you can't give up now on his teachings. He recommend that you find 5 good affiliate offers with keywords to start out with then go to phase 2 with those 5 affiliate offers/keywords together. Then start testing with them. If I can't find the other 4 weird niche offers. I will test with one and see if I can get the ball rolling. I think the reason why we can't find the weird niches is because we are probably not looking hard enough for those weird niches.
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