lordkensal

There is loads of stuff on where to find products to promote. This is one of the things that makes the course so powerful (and sets it above most courses). In fact the first part "Phase 1" is almost in 2 sections, with one set of videos on keyword research analysis and the 2nd part all about different sources and methods to find affiliate offers. AND NOT just the same old ones everybody else is trying to promote. Gave me a ton of ideas.

chrisdarrenjames

I recommend anything Andrew puts out, he is the real deal. I have proof of income over at my blog and also bonuses for this course if anyone is interest. I have used his strategies and can assist anyone get results with his teachings combined with mine.

I can truly vouch for him as a successful student of his.

Thanks,

Chris

sheikh352

I believe so. Their details can be found between the videos - but they are all in one place when you get the upsell. I have been reading a tremendous review by a girl called Priscilla, on her blog. It is at Chronic Blogger. She goes through everything, without, of course, giving away the course. In answer to that same question, she wrote me a reply, part of which I have copied for you, here:

"Hi Walid,

Thanks, and sorry about the wait. I was planning on writing a review of the OTO last night, but the lack of sleep caught up to me and I’ve been feeling a bit sick.

So, first of all the sales page of OTO 2 changed from when I bought it (before the launch), and it turns out you DO also get access to the outsourcing team with OTO 2. However I misunderstood what that means – I thought (perhaps stupidly) that their fee was included in the price of the OTO, but it’s not. These are separate services by separate people, so you’ll have to pay for them. At least for OTO 2 – I can’t say for sure for OTO 1, but I assume it’s the same.

BUT you can get links to most of these services just by buying the basic Forever Affiliate video course, so if you were only considering the upsell for the outsourcing and not the advanced strategies, then you can probably pass on it. They’re in between the videos instead of all being on an “Outsourcing” page like in the OTO member area, but I think the only that isn’t there is the one for niche research.

The prices are as follows:

Niche research: 5 niches for $60, 10 for $100
Site setup: $15
Article writing: option 1 is $100 for 10 and $200 for 20, option 2 is 1 article for $9.95, 5 for $48.95, and 10 for $96.95
Link building: there are quite a few link building services available, I’ll have to check them out later."

Hope that helps...

adamsad

thanks sheikh352...that info really helps...

Rainbow_Warrior

Hi Chris, could you point me towards the proof of income on your blog?

I'd be interested to see what success you've had with Andrew's methods and strategies.

Cheers

Adrian

Lovebostons

I decided to buy Forever Affiliate. I'm glad I did. It has taken me two days just to go through Theory and Phase 1. This is done so well and so clearly that I am just watching the videos and understanding and remembering what Andrew is teaching. I hate videos and usually try to take notes or read the transcripts. Not this time. The info is so clear I am remembering it all and it is a lot of info. That's a testament to Andrew being a really good, detailed teacher. Everything is making sense to me now.

There is one section that shows you how to calculate how much a particular product can potentially make you per month. That info all by itself is a gem to me. Maybe more experienced marketers already know how to do that, but in all the learning I have been doing through the years I never knew how to do this.

I have a couple of sites that make me money. Very little but they do make money. After using Andrew's calculations I realized why I make very little money. It's not because I did anything wrong, it's just that those products from day one were never going to make me the kind of money I want to make no matter what I do, and believe me I've spent a lot of time on them. Imagine knowing upfront what you could make? You could eliminate a lot of products because they are not worth your time and effort and really go to work on those that have great $ potential.

Anyway that one video on calculating how much you'll make in a month was well worth the money for this course. But there is much, much more that I've learned as I've gone through the other videos. What I've learned will keep me from spinning my wheels and working my arse off for things that won't ever get me where I want to go.

I'm looking forward to phase 2 and getting my sites up and running. Running the right way from day one, which seems to be the focus of this section.

As I mentioned I have many more videos to watch in the next phases but I just thought I'd let you know what I think so far, for whatever it is worth.

martinp

I'm not really a massive fan of video but I'm just finished watching up to the end of phase 2 (I admit I did fast forward through a few of the vids as it was info I already knew). I'm taking a few notes as I go so that I don't have to watch them over again.

I wouldn't say the course is revolutionary as this is the kind of stuff myself and alot of marketers who are successful are already doing, there are alot of 'Forever Affiliate' type sites out there already. I would say however that it's obvious Andrew is teaching from experience, and he teaches alot of tips I haven't seen taught before.

If you're not already making money with niche blogs I think this could be the course that fills in the gaps. It certainly is alot more comprehensive and up to date than strategies such as 'Google Sniper'. I think one of the main reasons people fail in affiliate marketing is because they don't pick the right product, and this is something that is addressed in alot of detail in this course.

One of the most useful videos is the one about how to find private affiliate programs - that tip is gold, I kind of wish Andrew had kept that one to himself though!

lostcyclist

Thanks, everybody, for all of the helpful reviews.

Does he cover any backlink/website promotion techniques post-penguin?

Zack Sprague

yes he does.

tiguemon

I purchased Forever Affiliate and I am happy so far with the content. I have taken courses like this in the past but I thought it was time for a refresher due to the Google updates. Most of the sites I built in the past have used Adsense as a monetization method, I like the fact that Andrew keys in on higher commission products for this training.

As I was going through the phase 1 analysis funnel section I saw the need to create a tool to help analyze the profitability of a market and save the data for later evaluation. I decided to share it with anyone who wants to use it. It is available at: Forever Affiliate Tools

P.S. Hats off to lordkensal for an excellent review.

adamsad

what about the tools? everyone say about the course. do we need any software to start with?

Zack Sprague

No you don't need any software to start out with. Don't believe in softwares when he teaches you how to do the stuff manually.

Janka

Hi Tiguemon, I've opted in twice using your link Forever Affiliate Tools and have not received the confirmation email. I checked the spam folder and it's not in there either. Thanks!

GlenH

Andrew is an honest as as credible as they come. Not because I'm a fellow Aussie, but because the guy lives it day in day out, and so he knows his stuff.

I've been doing this over 10 years, and of all the marketers and products I've come across during those years, I can count the credible, honest marketers on one hand, and Andrew is in the top 3 for sure.

sheikh352

To paraphrase from a movie (The Damned United), "I wouldn't say he's the best IM guru in the world - but he's definitely in the top 1!"

foxtrot3

Is there real value in this course at the basic level ($67) ???
I can't swing $497.

JKinakin

I bought the main FA course and when presented with the $497 OTO,
I passed on it and got the second downsell OTO which is the same as
the $497 one except I don't get personal consultation and don't get on
the live training. The second OTO is $297

I still can get support and help with the course but not personally with
Andrew.
I still get the training, but not live, I get the replay videos. For me it was
worth saving $200 and just go for normal support and replay videos.

Doiron

Hey foxtrot3,

I'm certain the coaching program is valuable but there's a lot of information in the $67 package. The coaching might speed things up - depending on your available time and work habits - but I think the basic product will provide everything you need.

It's really a very complete course. I'm still only on the first few videos and I get more impressed with every one.

bilby2200

Thanks for the tip, but do you get access to the outsource list and his people he mentions in the first Oto?

Is there anything else you Do Not Get (other than what you said) in OTO 2?
When I bought the initial course didn't get an opportunity for oto 2. It wasn't there.

Thx Bill

M.A.D. Pursuits

What does the done for you package entail? I would be interested in several sites if all from the course is applied to a completed site and product to market. Thanks for any info you may have.

RuggeroSB

I big misconception amongst many is that you only get access to the outsourcers if you buy the OTO. Truth is you get access to the outsourcers ANYWAY - you just have to pay them each time you order from them that's all. I didn't buy the OTO's but I did get the standard course, and as some1 who's been dabbling in IM for over 5 years and serious about it for the last 2 I can assure you it's well worth it even without the OTO's.

In fact, if you're like me and have been around awhile already, I think the OTO's are probably "not worth it" for you. I say that in quotes because I have no doubt it would be amazingly worth it for newer IMers

tiguemon

I have sent you a PM with the login info...

sheikh352

Information from chronicblogger.com

What’s Inside the OTOs?

First I’ll recap what each OTO includes, and then I’ll show you in more detail what’s inside.
OTO 1: Forever Affiliate 6 Week Coaching Program

Weekly, 3 hour live Mastermind Conference Calls
Andrew’s personal email address for any additional matters
6 Weekly Action Checklists covering every single thing you’ll have to do
Andrew’s personal outsource team who can “do for you” any/all of your work
2 Advanced Content videos each week
Interviews with 6 of the world’s top affiliate marketers
3 “Fast Income Generator” Bonus Modules
Your own local “Forever Affiliate Dream Team” support network
Access to the private Forever Affiliate Coaching Forum
Guarantee: access to Andrew Hansen until you make your first $1000/month
Cost: one time payment of $497 OR 2 payments of $279 (7 days apart)

OTO 2: Forever Affiliate Coaching (Materials Only)

Weekly Mastermind Webinar REPLAYS
6 Weekly Action Checklists
Access to Andrew’s personal outsource team
2 Advanced Content videos each week
Interviews with 6 of the world’s top affiliate marketers
3 “Fast Income Generator” Bonus Modules
Guarantee: 30 days
Cost: $297 (one time payment)

djw2002

Just purchased Forever Affiliate. The information looks great, but one problem, all of the videos are flash based. There are no download links for the videos to review them offline from Firefox on a Mac. Somewhat disappointing. I see there is a transcript of each video available but maybe someone can tell me where the download links for the videos because it is easier to view the videos off line if possible.

wingman7

Many of these reviews seem to have been posted by big time supporters of Andrew Hansen. All ra ra, he's the greatest without any focus on the real meat of the sandwich.

Has anybody done the course or used known techniques and actually built sites that make more than $10 a month??

If we stump up the cash, do the training, build and promote the sites will we get the promised results.

You must realize there are hundreds of hours involved in all this and so many of these schemes do not produce the desired outcome!!

And if the methods work so well why is he building and selling training courses to sell to a thirsty audience. All who are trying without succeeding. Of the 100 people who buy the full course I bet less than 5% get to an earning stage!

Come on guys get real. Can the BS. We want achievable results not thousands of hours of mind numbing talk!

Mbrownseo

"And if the methods work so well why is he building and selling training courses to sell to a thirsty audience."

This is the question you have to ask yourself with any course...and while there is probably some merit to this argument... I will tell you the course is the most thorough I have ever invested in.

That said... time will tell of this was a worthwhile investment based on profits... there is reason for skepticism.. and reason for optimism...

Michael Field-Dodgson

Well said wingman, but what would be the story if they were all negative? You have to accept that there is some decent content in this thread that does carry weight.

As well, the people Andrew associates with in the sales letter, and the person who put me onto this offer are as solid as the rock of Gibralta - there is no bull shit here I can tell you.

Like anybody Andrew has a business to run, and if he can sell a system that has made him money that people will buy, then good luck to him. He has been around for a while and in this business your reputation is key. I don't see any negative comments about poor performance in this thread?

But it's your decision - perhaps "read between the lines" mate.

bjallen

I bought this two days ago, and as I was going throught the videos, it all seemed like very sound information, and I did learn a thing or two.

When I started implementing the steps in phase 1, my research came to a screeching halt. The tool recommended for competitive backlink research costs $79 per month and upwards.
pretty pricey if you ask me. I did send a ticket to the support desk asking if a cheaper alternative was recommended, so I will reserve judgement and wait for a reply. I know there are other tools out there, but at first glance, none of them seem to do the same job that the recommended tool does. So I spent a few hours going down that rabbit hole, which was disappointing.

I will update when I hear back from the support desk. I would appreciate any suggestions from other warriors for a backlink research tool while I wait. My research is DITW as of now.

Thanks,
BJ

jamesdj1

Surprised nobody else has mentioned this yet in this thread.

tryinagain

Thanks for a VERY informative review.I am guessing that you did not purchase the coaching upsell? Just curious as to if it is worth the $497. I am a newbie so I might go that route.Thanks again!!

RuggeroSB

The tools he recommends are just recommendations, and in this case he actually talks about the free account. As already mentioned, there are many backlink software analysers, and that doesn't make the course worth any less. It's common sense that you'd need to analyse the competition's backlinks - I do it right now in my current campaigns, don't you?

I'm currently using Link-Assistant's SEO Spyglass. There's also a monthly "search engine algo update" fee - think if you get only SEO Spyglass and not the other programs they sell it's about $20-odd per month for it, and in theory you don't actually need the updates to run the software although I wouldn't try it.

There's also a free version which may suit you perfectly since the only limitation if I recall correctly is that you can't save the project.

Without hijacking this thread by writing a review on SEO Spyglass, I can tell you it's pretty good for a standalone desktop application. However, in general Link Assistant's tools seem to struggle under high volume, so if it scrapes thousands of links links I suggest you analyse them IN CHUNKS as the program tends to freeze up if you do too many at a time. Check the PR of all the links, then analyse only the high PR links (that's what works for me). Save often! You may also consider using proxies with this program, and check out their "Human emulation" settings too.

Oh, and it won't tell you over what period links were built, but honestly while that's a "nice to have" metric I don't find that info vital. I just look at the domain's age and strength of the backlinks and draw my own conclusions from that.

It's also considerably slower than using a 3rd party system since it runs all the scrapes and analysis on request directly from the program. This is unfortunately the price you pay for not using a 3rd party analysis system such as MajesticSEO, Ahrefs etc which use already obtained and analysed data in their system to generate their results.

He mentioned using Ahrefs in Phase 1 - you can get a free account there.

Overall though I'm still using SEO Spyglass. The data's pretty good and I'm quite sure it'll manage just fine with the type of competition you'd be analysing relative to what's outlined in the course material.

im0001

But you haven't updated your blog since August 2011.

RuggeroSB

Neither have I. So?

im0001

It doesn't seem to work for me - I've tried it a few times -

Has anyone else got the $1 trial since this message was put up?

Edit: Managed to get it now after a few more tries!

im0001

No one would listen to the recommendation of someone from a deserted blog with no ranking or at least I won't.

RuggeroSB

He's not trying to sell you anything . He's giving his personal experience. Surely a longstanding client of Andrew's has something relevant to contribute in this thread? Whether you choose to consider his endorsement on merit is your call, but in terms of his blog, which one did you visit? It looks pretty updated to me... http://commissiondiary.com/

Anyway I wouldn't discount people's contributions so cavalierly. Just because I, for example, haven't updated my personal site / blog / Facebook profile in what feels like a decade doesn't mean I don't have anything valuable to contribute in this community. After all, IM / SEO / WebDev is my livelihood nonetheless.

bjallen

RuggeroSB, thanks for your recommendation. I will certainly give SEO spyglass a look. I did get a response from the help desk at FA, but it was basically, "There's a lot of backlink analyzer tools out there. Here is a link you might find helpful." Not a specific recommendation.

Thanks again!
BJ

RuggeroSB

My pleasure bjallen! Ya I'd have guessed you would've gotten a canned response like that. Andrew did point out that the support desk isn't going to be much help in the "advice" department. They're likely there more to ensure the smooth running of the logistics of the course, payments etc. Hence the OTO includes his email address

Best of luck!

martinp

I wouldn't call myself a big time supporter of Andrew (I don't even know the guy), I do know from experience that his methods work though. I read Niche Marketing On Crack back in the day, and more recently Unstoppable Affiliate, and the methods in this are similar - just updated for 2013.

I have a number of sites built using the same methods and I would say $300+ per site per month (average) is a pretty accurate estimate. I have sites that didn't work at all (usually due to choosing the wrong product or keywords), I have some that make a few hundred a month, and some that make $1000+ per month. All are simple product review sites like Andrew teaches. I could post earnings proof but there wouldn't be any point - I can't prove that my earnings are from Andrew's methods specifically. Anyway, what I earn using the methods won't necessarily reflect what someone else will - you might not make as much as me or you might make way more.

I do believe that if you stump up the cash, do the training, and build and promote the sites, you should make money with this method. IMHO as a successful affiliate marketer this course covers all the bases. I'm in the process of starting a new blog at the moment and I'm thinking of doing a Forever Affiliate case study building some new niche blogs from scratch - I'll put the link in my sig when I'm ready in case anyone is interested.

Why does anyone sell training course in IM? Because it adds to your bottom line, you build a list of buyers etc. Product creation is one of the best ways to make money because once your product is ready you can continue selling it and make passive income for a long time to come (or until it goes out of date at least).

The reason the success rate is so low with most IM products is because buyers just don't take action - they're buying the dream and aren't willing to put in the time and effort it takes to be successful.

Lovebostons

For someone like me who gave up on affiliate marketing a few years ago, but still have sites up that make money even though I'm doing nothing, Forever Affiliate is a good refresher course.

BTW those sites of mine make about $200-300 a month. Pitiful, I know. In the past I was constantly working on them and then just became exhausted and disappointed after penguin and panda and just let them sit there.

In Forever Affiliate there are some new and (I think) correct ways to do this without exhausting yourself. The method Andrew is showing has streamlined the process for me and I feel will make it faster to get the right (hopefully) product/keywords and start building sites quickly.

This course structures the process so if you do one step at a time you won't get distracted or overwhelmed. I've found some things I want to promote and this week will start building the sites and I'll let you know how it goes. It is going to take a few months of work though.

Personally, Forever Affiliate is a good "refresher/updating" course for people who have done some affiliate marketing, know there is money out there to be made, and want to get back in the game. For newbies...I'm not so sure. Very experienced and successful marketers obviously don't need this.

Mbrownseo

"The reason the success rate is so low with most IM products is because buyers just don't take action - they're buying the dream and aren't willing to put in the time and effort it takes to be successful."

ding...ding...ding..ding...

Too many are "buying the dream" and not doing the work...this course is work...which is a good thing because thats how you grow and prosper in any business or endeavor.

Jesus Perez

This guy does it on Fiverr. Integr will create 7 full pro ahrefs site explorer reports each report consists of one link per domain report + all backlinks report for $5, only on fiverr.com

Haven't tried it yet.

wingman7

Congratulations on getting regular income from affiliate sites. With Google's efforts to "kill off" these sites recently its great that you have survived.

Clearly methods you have learned and implemented prior to Penguin etc still work? Is that because they are review sites? and therefore have some "authority"?

Is your traffic organic or paid?

Impressed by your offer to post the url for you new site. I would be keen to see it.

Its not just a matter of doing the work to get the results its about doing the right work. There are millions of businesses and websites built by some very smart, dedicated people that dont work! Tools that clearly tell you if your offer will work before you build it would be extremely valuable.
Like the adword strategy that no longer works. Advertise an offer, send to a landing page and measure the conversion at different levels. When they get to the product explain its a research project and if they answer some questions the product will be built and given to them for free. You could tell in a couple of days whether it was worth putting 200 hours into the project.

Inglourious Basterd

I don't know Andrew Hansen personally, it just seems to me that if he was a caring, conscientious, smart, warm-hearted guy as some people claim him to be, then he would offer a support forum for those who have questions about any gaps or stumbling blocks a user might be presented with. It's not a stretch to assume, and ya just gotta believe, that there are going to be people who, while watching one of his training videos, will inevitably have a question about a methodology that needs to be answered. Especially noobs.

And if it's not a question about something ambiguous in a training video that needs to be answered, then maybe it's a good, plausible question about something else related to IM. You'll often hear Andrew Hansen talk about all the free time he has. Oh, that I believe, especially when you consider that he has the option to outsource a great bulk of work that goes into being a successful marketer. Plain and simple: in my opinion, he needs to get off his vacation-traveling, jet-setting butt and construct a discussion forum!

Mr. Hansen, where's your empathy? You do realize that after we watch one of your training videos we might have a question that needs to be answered, or a strategy that we'd like to discuss. I'm not a certified optician, but due to your great success I suggest that you just might have a touch of tunnel vision because I'm here to tell you that not all of us are experts at IM. In fact, many of us are either noobs just starting out, veterans struggling to be successful or virtual losers when it comes to Internet marketing...

Tenzo

I feel your pain. I'd bet that most warrior forum members have been in similar places while learning.

I'd like to note that I received and email from Andrew yesterday answering a question that someone had sent him, and clarifying some points about the lessons in FA.

It can be hard to answer super specific questions on an individual level because each project will be a little different. Various niches will be different, and in the hands of two marketers the same niche will get different results. Not huge differences-the basic process still applies-but tiny things.

The best thing to do is get started-ready, fire, aim. Get it going, then make corrections as needed. Once you have a basic process-whether from FA or another good course-this forum can be a great place to hammer out the details, and get second(or third) opinions.

Best,
Kevin

im0001

Why is he offering bonuses if he's not selling anything?

I was actually looking at the site in his userId - The way I look at this, if someone's offering an SEO service on a website which is either not ranked or lowly ranked, would you still buy his services?!!!

In any case, I have now bought Andrew's stuff with a $1 trial and I'm going through the course, so it's all academecial now

Watching Andrew teaching this stuff is just as enjoyable as watching a good Hollywood movie and hoping that this stuff will eventually help me make some decent money after all -- the only thing that I can see stopping it that I can see so far will be the cost of paying for the content to be written professionally. It would cost on average $100 per site for the content and I want no one to tell me that I can write the content myself - NO I CAN'T - I HATE WRITING MY OWN CONTENT SO MUCH

RuggeroSB

Ok, so he's trying to sell you something on his website (who isn't), and you clearly landed on a different website to the one I did. Any event, his post wasn't "ra-ra click on my link for free bonuses" - that's all I was saying.

But yes, it's academic at this point .

$100 per site? So, 10 pages x $10 each? Well, there are cheaper options. I have a source that's much cheaper than $10 and the quality's good enough (English is good, no spelling /grammer problems, relevant - closer to $5 per article) and to my recollection I'm pretty sure Andrew says a mini-site can start with 5 pages?

I'll b happy to share my article source with you if you want - PM me.

johnpea

Yeah, Andrew is very professional - this is a great course. My recommendation is Buy it now

im0001

Andrew's recommending 800 word articles which I agree with myself as I have a mini-stie atm with 400 word pages and it's not getting the desired results. (10 page sites should perform better and should keep visitors longer on the site hopefully).

So if your source charges $5 per 800 word artilces then I'd be happy to use your source

cypherslock

If you want to check out competitor's link network, another option is Market Samurai. I've use Link-Assist tools, just couldn't get on with them.