Ultimate Video Curator - thoughts?

Profile picture of the author Blazon1 by Blazon1 Posted: 02/20/2013
I'm seeing e-mails touting a new product from Alex Goad and another marketer called Ultimate Video Curator. It's a WP plug that automates the process of finding relevant videos to post at a site along with curated comments, plus a theme and a couple other items. It looks good, and it looks like something I could use for my .tv domains, but I'm wondering if anyone here has purchased this product and, if so, your thoughts on the product. Also, if you you did purchase, is there an OTO included.

Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jimp1
    Jimp1
    Blazon1,
    I've seen it too. What I'd like to know that I didn't see in the video is how they're being monetized. Another thing that concerns me is Alex Goad. His reputation seems to be that he tends to abandon his software. Interestingly along that theme the offer does not have an about us page, or any way th contact Alex. Those things make me nervous, so I haven't decided on the software yet.
    Just my opinion...
    Jimp1
  • Profile picture of the author Blazon1
    Blazon1
    Originally Posted by Jimp1 View Post
    Blazon1,
    Interestingly along that theme the offer does not have an about us page, or any way th contact Alex. Those things make me nervous, so I haven't decided on the software yet.
    Just my opinion...
    Jimp1
    Yes, I noticed that, too, also no mention of who the second person is that is involved with the launch, although his (I assume it's a he) illegible signature is on the sales page. Don't know much about Alex, but most IM'ers abandon their products fairly quickly, especially if they aren't the creators of the products, which is probably the case here.
  • Profile picture of the author ebizmrktr
    ebizmrktr
    I've followed video and content curating for a while. There seems to be a little more than point and click to these systems. You might want to check out other programs like Viral Video Content Pro - Hugh HItchcock or WP Video Sense - Peter Garety, Both have substantial search records. - Bill
  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
    ForumGuru
    Yeah, I wish this was a forum launch. Bryan is a young kid that has had some successful launches on the forum but sometimes his service can be slow. I own a few of his products and at times you need to keep on him to get the service you need. That said...he has launched some pretty cool products on here.

    Byran McConnahea - Profile

    View Profile: Bryan Mc

    Some of his launches:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...live-demo.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...arent-you.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...left-demo.html

    Here is an interview Han Fan did with him regarding the Ultimate Video Creator and the OTO's.


    I own the pro versions all of Hugh's curation products... VVC, VIC and ICC and in my experience he certainly is a bit more responsive than Bryan is --> but Hugh also works with other programmers so he does not always have all the answers...but he does reply to concerns, no doubt about that.

    That said, Hugh's VVC is a desktop software and it will also send stuff to social media (twitter, facebook and pinterest) and he has a syndication module available for purchase as well...which is the only way to do self hosted with VVC --> UVC does not have the syndicator built in, but will do self hosted. Like Bryan's software Hugh's software will schedule posts but it does not have the related videos, RSS and YouTube comments stuff built in like Bryan's plugin does.

    I have been working/playing around using Garety's RSS plugin (I don't have the pro version) and the free related videos plugin to do what Ultimate Video Creator does and it can do it...sorta...but it would be nice to have the UVC plugin. I am not positive but I believe for early buyers a couple of free bonuses are offered with the higher priced front end offer(s).

    A few OTO's are available, one of them being some sort of video sitemap plugin...I have been using the free video sitemap plugin to see how how well it works.

    Another OTO is available which is an expensive package of Bryan's plugins...and I think an info OTO is available as well.

    I was glad to see the package of plugins offered as it should mean that he will continue to support some of the plugins that I already own.

    I am still on the fence with UVC...I already have lots of curators and Mark D's Covert Player --> but UVC is very cool, and I want it, but ongoing service is also my concern.

    Hope that helps.
  • Profile picture of the author MarketingAce
    MarketingAce
    Personally I'm not big on curated content because even though you use your "block quotes", etc, you still seem to not have great results in the search engines.
    I say that with the Google Panda & Penguin, you are better off just either creating your own content from scratch or hiring low budget writers for this.
  • Profile picture of the author novac
    novac
    Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

    A few OTO's are available, one of them being some sort of video sitemap plugin...I have been using the free video sitemap plugin to see how how well it works.

    Another OTO is available which is an expensive package of Bryan's plugins...and I think an info OTO is available as well.

    I was glad to see the package of plugins offered as it should mean that he will continue to support some of the plugins that I already own.

    I am still on the fence with UVC...I already have lots of curators and Mark D's Covert Player --> but UVC is very cool, and I want it, but ongoing service is also my concern.

    Hope that helps.
    ForumGuru, is this the free video sitemap plugin you were referring to? http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/...ps-for-videos/

    This is what Todd Gross said in one of his emails that I believe is the info OTO:
    (There is an option to get 6 extra modules of advanced
    training once you have the software - the price of which
    will shock you - get that extra training, we want you
    in this group)

    Jimp1, same concerns here regarding Alex Goad. He does seem to abandon his software, plus last year I tried numerous times to retrieve a substantial bonus offered by him (for a substantial purchase) using the support desk he provided. It was a joke: the 'support' desk literally sends you around in circles and had no where for bonus requests - only a drop-down for each of his products which you're eventually forced to use.
    After finally creating an account there and putting in your request there isn't even an acknowledgement email. So good luck on that.
    As far as monetizing I guess you just have to get the training modules, or stick in an Adsense or affiliate link where you can.

    I'm still on the fence as well. If people are so glued to these videos, as the site infers, when ARE they going to click on anything else?

    Anyone else?

    Edit: I located the link for Alex's help desk. I had to recreate an account so, of course, my previous tickets were not there. I put in a test ticket, with a small and polite gripe thrown in, and this time received an acknowledgement email which included this text:

    Please note that we've just recently switched to a new support desk powered by Zendesk. If you're receiving this new ticket notification after replying to a ticket that is already open and existing, it is because your ticket has now been transferred to the new support desk. The agent you were communicating with will continue correspondence. Thank you for your patience and understanding during this time of transition.

    Also note that the new support desk is located at http://supportchamps.zendesk.com -- any future support request can be made there, or you can simply email support as normal.
    ----

    So, there is a way to contact him, and BTW....Ultimate Video Curator is in the drop down at the help desk, but this line in that email is laughable: Thank you for your patience and understanding during this time of transition.
  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
    ForumGuru
    Originally Posted by novac View Post
    I searched for a free video sitemap plugin - where is it?
    WordPress › Google XML Sitemap for Videos « WordPress Plugins

    It's working for videos that I upload with Viral Video Curator but not for the videos I am adding with Covert Video Player. FWIW it's not mapping the related videos generated via the free related videos plugin either but I sorta expected that.

    Re: the information OTO --> Bryan touches on it in the video I posted above and I know the cost is $47. The sitemap is $27 and the plugin package is $77 and $147 depending on what license you grab.

    I am going to give maybe 20 of my domains a video curation workout and see what adsense can deliver.

    -don
  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
    ForumGuru
    Hey peeps,

    Warrior member davidalpha1 has the UVC installed...see here:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...r-install.html
  • Profile picture of the author atlantarobin
    atlantarobin
    Let me just add my two cents to whether or not it's worth video curating on a site. Oh, yeah... big time. At least for getting page-ranked, your posts to appear in the serps, and a first page boost for your own YT videos.

    Without using any of the later video curation "tools" I bought, I grabbed just one of the automated video posters I got in Tom Ness' Charity WSO for Addison Locke last spring... and on October 30th, started systematically adding about 10 videos per day to one niche site, using 15 categories.

    Within one month, that site went from 4,000,000 to less than 1 million on Alexa, and now 3 1/2 months later, it's ranked around 400,000 globally and went from 0 Page Rank to a 2. It's not monetized yet (yeah, I NOW need to do that), but has a tone of page one rankings for individual posts.

    In the midst of that back in December, when YouTube changed up quite a few things, ALL my 2500 videos disappeared! OMG! Had to go back and re-embed the codes on each post. So haven't had time to finish the process of what I had planned.

    But get this... there is NOTHING on those posts except the VIDEO itself. Nothing. No description, no comments, no article, no nothing. Obviously, my plan was to go back AFTER it got indexed and ADD the associated article to the post. My thinking was I would get double the bang for my time by "updating" it in layers, rather than just in one long post.

    Boy, was I shocked to see this site take off like a rocket. The unfortunate video plugin debacle with the missing embed codes took a month's work to fix (with 500 still to go) so I STILL have not added the articles to these posts. Still, I'm gaining rank daily, though the 3 month and 1 month data are beginning to level off.

    Bottom line... is that when visitors stop by they view around 13 different pages, spend more than 24 minutes (leveling out from 30+ minutes) on the site with a consistent 69 seconds on each page they visit. The bounce rate was less than 40% but now is inching higher and I'm guessing it will level at around 50%. That's mainly because ALL the videos scroll on the front page and are completely viewable there, so they never really have to leave the front page.

    So if I had it set up differently, where you had to leave the front page, who knows, those figures would probably be much higher and the bounce rate much lower.

    When I add the articles and other additions, layering each for repeated serp impact, I think it will only get better.

    My take on this is to forget about the SERPs... as I only get 6% of my traffic from Google. I concentrate on the niche, bring in my own traffic, and Alexa and SEMrush and Google and all the others take note of the traffic and the fact people are hanging out on my site a damn long time (based on average results elsewhere) and they don't give a flip on what's bringing that traffic there. They're just reflecting what IS and ranking accordingly.

    So should you start adding or curating video content? A better question is... why are you waiting so long to do it?

    Just my thoughts...

    Robin Carlisle
  • Profile picture of the author novac
    novac
    Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post
    WordPress › Google XML Sitemap for Videos « WordPress Plugins

    It's working for videos that I upload with Viral Video Curator but not for the videos I am adding with Covert Video Player. FWIW it's not mapping the related videos generated via the free related videos plugin either but I sorta expected that.

    Re: the information OTO --> Bryan touches on it in the video I posted above and I know the cost is $47. The sitemap is $27 and the plugin package is $77 and $147 depending on what license you grab.

    I am going to give maybe 20 of my domains a video curation workout and see what adsense can deliver.

    -don
    Thank you, ForumGuru...I think this was a classic forum mixup where I was making the edit while you were kindly including an answer to my question. While searching for Alex's help desk I also found the video site map plugin. Seems it would have popped right up in the search at wordpress . org. No, but there were 61 results. Went right to it at the same site by doing a Google search.
    I had inadvertently placed my question within your quote....duh.

    (One minute it sounds like you purchased UVC and the next minute it doesn't.)

    Anyway, came to post about this demo link for UVC INSPIRE Blog Daily Inspiration and Motivation
  • Profile picture of the author atlantarobin
    atlantarobin
    And by the way, that site is sloooooooooow as molasses and STILL people endure it and stay there anyway, lol. I mean... the stats tell me it is 86% slower than any other site on the internet, lol. And only a couple dozen posts even have meta tags or descriptions... almost ZERO seo at all! No kidding!

    The point being... you CANNOT mess this up! Just put the dang videos on your site... NOW... and stop wasting time, lol.

    But is this a fluke? Nope. I did this on a dozen brand new sites in various niches... same kind of thing happened. It's weird, bizarre, head-scratching stuff, I know. But... it works. Why? Who knows. I think that if you just pick a niche where people have lots of questions and want to get quick answers without a lot of reading... and you go grab a couple thousand videos that answer their questions very well... and organize those videos into categories that they can easily navigate... well, then... I think you've got yourself a traffic magnet that even Google can't screw up.

    At least... those are my thoughts...

    Robin Carlisle
  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
    ForumGuru
    Yeah curation works for sure as I curated an image site back in 2005 (before they called it curation I think) that was doing almost a half-million page views a day, most all of them were from Google. I have not touched the site since (other than maintenance) and it's still doing 30,000 to 75,000 page views a day almost 8 years later.

    Yeah, I sat on the number 1 or 2 ranks for a few very big keywords for a very long time, and the site ranked #1 or 2 on hundreds of key phrases...it's slipped to the bottom of page 1 due to pure neglect as it's on an old, old server that can't take any of the good stuff, and I will break the site if I update the server. I curated several other image sites that did well in 2006 and 2007 and are still alive today so I know curation does work, and it can be monitized, as I have had my share of $100 days and a $1000 day or two. I did not get rich off the sites but if I would have kept at it --> and monitized them better, who knows??

    Unfortunately many years later videos have overtaken images in popularity and I still own 60+ photo and image domains...woops...gotta start picking up some new domain soon! I also need to pound the social media as back in the day it was not needed and I avoided it like the plague...dumb, dumb, dumb!

    Anyway, curation works for lots of folks in many different ways!

    @Robin --> I purchased that Tom Ness charity package and never used a thing in it. Darn it. Just for grins --> what is the autoposter you used from that WSO?

    Edit: I just logged back in to the charity WSO and saw that it is AutoTube Press...I have tried that one out but have not used it for "real". In-fact I just pulled it out the other day and tried it on my test site.
  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
    ForumGuru
    Originally Posted by novac View Post
    Thank you, ForumGuru <snip>
    (One minute it sounds like you purchased UVC and the next minute it doesn't.)
    Well, technically I did purchase UVC and the sitemap and I do have the links to the funnel, OTO pages, and members area. The problem is I believe I purchased when they were testing the funnel because the prices were too good to be true! I got my receipts and JVZOO links but my links to the members area lead nowhere good. I hit the proper buy buttons --> but I guess they were late getting the proper funnel prices in-place. I was hoping it was one of those rare ultra-fast moving dime sales but I guess that was not the case as the prices do seem to be fixed.

    Do you think I should send my transaction ID's to support and request my products?
  • Profile picture of the author Kathy_T
    Kathy_T
    I now make it a rule to come here and check out other peoples' ideas before buying something. So thanks, everyone for this! I originally heard about this via an Affiliorama email, so I assumed Mark Ling's people could answer questions.

    They told me that I could contact the developers, and gave me a link - but it just wound up being the sales page. I couldn't discover anything else about Alex Goad except for what I read here.

    But, I really like video, and just hearing what AtlantaRobin said, above, is enough to convince me that placing appropriate videos into my content is important.

    Until I hear a lot more about this particular product, I'm going to hold off and just place them in manually. Thanks guys for all that insight!
  • Profile picture of the author maverick4u
    maverick4u
    Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post
    Hey peeps,

    Warrior member davidalpha1 has the UVC installed...see here:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...r-install.html
    He said that it was a real pain to install it-he had to have his host enable "exec" whatever that is and they were very reluctant to do so. then he said after installing it they disabled it.

    Anybody else have any issues installing it ?

    So it has to run on your server? Any bandwidth issues if you host the videos on your site?
  • Profile picture of the author novac
    novac
    Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post
    Well, technically I did purchase UVC and the sitemap and I do have the links to the funnel, OTO pages, and members area. The problem is I believe I purchased when they were testing the funnel because the prices were too good to be true! I got my receipts and JVZOO links but my links to the members area lead nowhere good. I hit the proper buy buttons --> but I guess they were late getting the proper funnel prices in-place. I was hoping it was one of those rare ultra-fast moving dime sales but I guess that was not the case as the prices do seem to be fixed.

    Do you think I should send my transaction ID's to support and request my products?
    D__n sure - For the life of me I don't know how you 'found' that funnel but wasn't it their fault for even having those links and prices in place? Unless you found it by, uh....unscrupulous methods, then go to the support desk. You have the receipts!
    Let us know how it went and what you think of the product
  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
    ForumGuru
    Originally Posted by novac View Post
    D__n sure - For the life of me I don't know how you 'found' that funnel but wasn't it their fault for even having those links and prices in place? Unless you found it by, uh....unscrupulous methods, then go to the support desk. You have the receipts!
    Let us know how it went and what you think of the product
    I accessed on the up and up. Han Fan the interview man had the sales page and links up. I had watched the interview the day before and hen came back to check the price. I made sure I was there at opening thinking it was going to be a dime sale.
  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Mc
    Bryan Mc
    Hi guys,

    Thanks for checking out UVC. I thought I would respond to a couple things here.

    1. In regards to the exec function, this is required for the UVC Quick Installer which installs and sets up the various UVC components for you. It is provided as a convenience, not required. The plugin and theme can be easily installed through the normal WP interface as any plugin/theme might. 95% of people do not have a problem using this because the exec function is enable by default. However 5% or so have hosts that disable this because they are ultra security hawks and of course they won't like enabling it. I'm not saying they don't have their reasons, but it's about the equivalent of demanding to hold your 16 year old's hand while crossing the road.

    2. ForumGuru, thanks for your inputs buddy

    3. atlantarobin, you pretty much hit the nail on the head with your posts. Curation, when done right is the future. However, most don't do it properly and that's what I hope to solve with UVC. But I just want to be clear to everybody, when atlantarobin says the site is slow, she is not referring to a site she built with UVC.

    4. maverick4u, David had a problem using the Quick Installer because of his hosting. However, most don't. And if it's impossible to use the Quick Installer, you can just install the theme and plugin by uploading them via WP like any other plugin, it's just a few clicks more. The Quick Installer is there as a convenience, it's not to say you are forced to use it. It probably takes your installation time for 5-7 minutes (counting downloading, uploading and clicking activate) to 2-3 minutes using the Quick Installer.

    Thanks guys,
    Bryan
  • Profile picture of the author ShawnBastet
    ShawnBastet
    I installed it yesterday on a domain I want to give a little life to. This will be for a local seo service, so building some ranking will be important over the next year. I had some issues with the install, but I'm also smart enough to use my host's control panel, so it wasn't an issue for long.

    My favorite part of the app is the saved searches. Basically, I can grab the top category posts of the day by region and check that daily. There are lots of other search options available. Overall the site looks pretty sweet and I'm sure mine will look better with more content and tweaking on my part.

    You will have to use the template. That's not a problem for me, because this was a new site, but if your in love with an existing template you might want to keep that in mind.

    Overall, I think this delivers on being fast and easy to use. I'm glad I picked it up.
  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Mc
    Bryan Mc
    Originally Posted by ShawnBastet View Post
    I installed it yesterday on a domain I want to give a little life to. This will be for a local seo service, so building some ranking will be important over the next year. I had some issues with the install, but I'm also smart enough to use my host's control panel, so it wasn't an issue for long.

    My favorite part of the app is the saved searches. Basically, I can grab the top category posts of the day by region and check that daily. There are lots of other search options available. Overall the site looks pretty sweet and I'm sure mine will look better with more content and tweaking on my part.

    You will have to use the template. That's not a problem for me, because this was a new site, but if your in love with an existing template you might want to keep that in mind.

    Overall, I think this delivers on being fast and easy to use. I'm glad I picked it up.
    This is awesome! Just a little amendment. You don't have to use the theme. The plugin works with any theme. I do highly recommend you use the theme for best results and the best looking site as it is specially designed, but again, there is no requirement. UVC automatically adjusts itself based on what theme you're using. May I ask what was the installation issue you ran into? I'm always looking for feedback. It seems you've solved it pretty easily, but if we avoid it altogether for others who might have the same, the better.

    Thanks,
    Bryan

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