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Unread 13th Mar 2013, 01:50 PM   #51
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I need to add my bit.

I have 10 years Ecommerce experience and uses to sell $80k per month on eBay back in the hay-days of easy eBay - Amazon we used to sell around $40k, anyway I digress...

You don't need the course - what they have given away as freebies / PDFs and Videos is enough, you don't need anything else.

I was surprised they gave so much away.

The number one part and most important key to all of this is the White Labelling of a Best Selling Product.

It's so easy to do with overseas suppliers and the rest is all handled by Amazon. Stay in bed and handle it all on your iPad/Nexus haha!

The clueless will pay $3k for the course and do nothing but that's what happens in the 80/20 rule of selling courses online.

If anyone wants training and has $500 per month I'd be happy to show you how to do this stuff
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I need to add my bit.

I have 10 years Ecommerce experience and uses to sell $80k per month on eBay back in the hay-days of easy eBay - Amazon we used to sell around $40k, anyway I digress...

You don't need the course - what they have given away as freebies / PDFs and Videos is enough, you don't need anything else.

I was surprised they gave so much away.

The number one part and most important key to all of this is the White Labelling of a Best Selling Product.

It's so easy to do with overseas suppliers and the rest is all handled by Amazon. Say and bed and handle it all on your iPad/Nexus haha!

The clueless will pay $3k for the course and do nothing but that's what happens in the 80/20 rule of selling courses online.

If anyone wants training and has $500 per month I'd be happy to show you how to do this stuff
How possible is 30k.mo (profit)?
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How possible is 30k.mo (profit)?
Where is $30k?
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Ok, I looked through the Proven Amazon Course mentioned above and it does cover the FBA basics and seems good. Much of the content was done in a couple years ago. It covers a lot about selling books through Amazon FBA and the strategy of finding cheap clearance items at local Walmart/target that you buy and then sell it for more on Amazon FBA for pricing arbitrage. Both strategies involve getting your products put together, packaging, printing your own labels out and shipping everything yourself to Amazon FBA. It also involved selling lots of products at the same time through Amazon FBA. I have zero interest in selling books or boxing/labeling my own stuff so not sure now much this helped me

It briefly mentioned on a video presentation slide that you could do "Advanced" strategies with Amazon FBA by having your supplier ship directly to Amazon and have then send the labels to amazon. I didn't see anywhere where it shows you how to remove yourself from the process of having to package,label, and ship your products to Amazon FBA. The training seemed more along the lines of Ebay sellers now selling on Amazon FBA instead. Overall the course seems like good information but was looking for the info about automating the supply process and never having to box/ship my own stuff.

I didn't buy Amazon Selling Machine but it seems the Amazon Selling machine product is more about removing yourself as much as you can from the process such as focusing on the "Advanced" FBA concepts of using suppliers that ship/label for you and send to the Amazon FBA warehouse.

Amazon selling machine seemed more oriented around limiting the products you sell but going deep with a specific product like different models/sizes so you limit your FBA storage costs and shipping costs......or private labeling the product so other sellers can't piggyback on your product and depress margins. The Amazon Selling Machine software was about automating the customer feedback process for you using Amazon API's get reviews and manage the customer feedback loop for you ? (would have been helpful if they showed an actual inside look at the software being provided)

Amazon Selling Machine seems more about scaling large with specific limited number products and trying to automate the supply process ?

Just seemed to be some differences in the approach between the 2 products and not sure if Proven Amazon Course provides the same info except the core FBA basics ?

I did find it strange that Amazon Selling Machine didn't have any testimonials and results shown from their "Beta" testers ? (They said it was legal stuff but any product owner can just have the standard disclaimers to take care of that like "These results are not guaranteed and are not typical" and show testimonials of their success stories.) The price is certainly steep but I guess people pay those numbers easily for high level mentoring and masterminds so if the quality of people in it are high then there is value there. I guess the big question if if it really is "exclusive" and won't reopen again.

I will say though that Rusty Moore above recommending this Amazing Selling Machine product was interesting as he doesn't recommend much (if anything) and even told his list(which is one of the few I am on) that he isn't going to email his list anymore as he doesn't care for recommending IM products to people and would rather focus on his own business. He very easily could just keep recommending the latest and greatest products but doesn't want to.
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Good job doing your homework. Now take that $3500 and reinvest that back into your current biz.
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I dunno where 30K is, but 40K is in the 2nd sentence of your post...

How doable is that?

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I need to add my bit.

I have 10 years Ecommerce experience and uses to sell $80k per month on eBay back in the hay-days of easy eBay - Amazon we used to sell around $40k, anyway I digress...

You don't need the course - what they have given away as freebies / PDFs and Videos is enough, you don't need anything else.

I was surprised they gave so much away.

The number one part and most important key to all of this is the White Labelling of a Best Selling Product.

It's so easy to do with overseas suppliers and the rest is all handled by Amazon. Stay in bed and handle it all on your iPad/Nexus haha!

The clueless will pay $3k for the course and do nothing but that's what happens in the 80/20 rule of selling courses online.

If anyone wants training and has $500 per month I'd be happy to show you how to do this stuff
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Good job doing your homework. Now take that $3500 and reinvest that back into your current biz.
No Kidding! I can't believe anyone would even consider paying that much for knowledge that can be found (better) elsewhere. There really is a "sucker born every minute" but there are a few who are smart and do their homework first before rushing in.......


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I had been meaning to unsub from a lot of lists and I will give this course credit for one thing...it has given me the kick in the pants needed to do so. I have unsubbed from everyone who mailed for this and let them know why. I would have thought that one of them would have at least offered a reach-around as a bonus.
Yes, me as well. Gone from my inbox is Mark Ling, Matt Carter, Gauher Chaudhry, and a couple of others. They have lost all credibility. It's plain to see that money is their main objective. I used to buy into the "I'm here to help you because I too, have been burned before" routine, but my eyes are opened now.
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Ok, I looked through the Proven Amazon Course mentioned above and it does cover the FBA basics and seems good. Much of the content was done in a couple years ago. It covers a lot about selling books through Amazon FBA and the strategy of finding cheap clearance items at local Walmart/target that you buy and then sell it for more on Amazon FBA for pricing arbitrage. Both strategies involve getting your products put together, packaging, printing your own labels out and shipping everything yourself to Amazon FBA. It also involved selling lots of products at the same time through Amazon FBA. I have zero interest in selling books or boxing/labeling my own stuff so not sure now much this helped me

It briefly mentioned on a video presentation slide that you could do "Advanced" strategies with Amazon FBA by having your supplier ship directly to Amazon and have then send the labels to amazon. I didn't see anywhere where it shows you how to remove yourself from the process of having to package,label, and ship your products to Amazon FBA. The training seemed more along the lines of Ebay sellers now selling on Amazon FBA instead. Overall the course seems like good information but was looking for the info about automating the supply process and never having to box/ship my own stuff.

I didn't buy Amazon Selling Machine but it seems the Amazon Selling machine product is more about removing yourself as much as you can from the process such as focusing on the "Advanced" FBA concepts of using suppliers that ship/label for you and send to the Amazon FBA warehouse.

Amazon selling machine seemed more oriented around limiting the products you sell but going deep with a specific product like different models/sizes so you limit your FBA storage costs and shipping costs......or private labeling the product so other sellers can't piggyback on your product and depress margins. The Amazon Selling Machine software was about automating the customer feedback process for you using Amazon API's get reviews and manage the customer feedback loop for you ? (would have been helpful if they showed an actual inside look at the software being provided)

Amazon Selling Machine seems more about scaling large with specific limited number products and trying to automate the supply process ?

Just seemed to be some differences in the approach between the 2 products and not sure if Proven Amazon Course provides the same info except the core FBA basics ?

I did find it strange that Amazon Selling Machine didn't have any testimonials and results shown from their "Beta" testers ? (They said it was legal stuff but any product owner can just have the standard disclaimers to take care of that like "These results are not guaranteed and are not typical" and show testimonials of their success stories.) The price is certainly steep but I guess people pay those numbers easily for high level mentoring and masterminds so if the quality of people in it are high then there is value there. I guess the big question if if it really is "exclusive" and won't reopen again.

I will say though that Rusty Moore above recommending this Amazing Selling Machine product was interesting as he doesn't recommend much (if anything) and even told his list(which is one of the few I am on) that he isn't going to email his list anymore as he doesn't care for recommending IM products to people and would rather focus on his own business. He very easily could just keep recommending the latest and greatest products but doesn't want to.
This is the issue. I was in touch with Jim Cockrum for the Proven Amazon Course and it does appear that it is not as complete. Maybe this is wrong but it doesn't appear the Proven Amazon Course goes into any detail about how to take yourself out of the process and have products shipped directly to Amazon FBA. Has this course been updated with this information? Does anyone know?
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What $3500 course? I have no idea what you are talking about and I'm certain I have no opinions on the matter.


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I have to agree with the quality of Jim's PAC course...he's literally one of only four internet marketers that don't spam by inbox with useless offers of the day, etc. Information actually worth reading (so far).

Maybe he can even post his thoughts on the hoopla over this new $3,500 shiny object course in his silent membership area.
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The "theory" behind the PAC course is one that should be modeled for ANY legitimate course or training offered in the "online entrepreneur" niche. It's time to raise the standards of what we expect from the courses we buy.

The PAC's standard that I think we need for the entire industry:

1) Make it affordable - always
2) no bright shiny objects allowed (cut the graphics crap. As buyers we don't care - or at least we SHOULDN'T!)
3) Start small, grow slow (no big launches - PROVE it first...we'll buy later once you have REAL testimonials)
4) Recruit early successful students to present their ideas to the rest of us as it grows. Let the content GROW as new creative ideas and people come on board.
5) Hire successful students to monitor the MANDATORY INCLUDED discussion forums and let everyone hang out and learn there
6) No time limits on refunds. NONE.
7) End guru worship (again, we really shouldn't care should we?)
8) Your "expert testimonials" are crap. Show us real people giving their FIRST EVER testimonial. Those are the only ones that matter.

Am I forgetting anything?

How can YOU help make this a reality? STOP BUYING STUFF THAT YOU KNOW IS GARBAGE.

Lesson for my "expert" colleagues: If you aim your marketing at idiots you'll soon have an audience of the same.

NOTE: NONE of these comments are directed at the creators of ASM because I've spent exactly ZERO minutes looking at their course, offer, content or website.

Thanks for all the support here guys.
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Am I forgetting anything?

How can YOU help make this a reality? STOP BUYING STUFF THAT YOU KNOW IS GARBAGE.

Lesson for my "expert" colleagues: If you aim your marketing at idiots you'll soon have an audience of the same.

Thanks for all the support here guys.

Well, that sums it up nicely....... good tips for all people; both on the selling and buying side.

No Jim, THANK YOU, for being the lighthouse on a rough sea of IM waters filled with low morals and greed.

And yes, people have to have enough sense to walk away from things that don't "feel" right, even if they can't put their finger on exactly what bothers them.
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I've been hesitant to chime in....
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Thanks Lisa for a very informative post.
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As an Amazon FBA, (Fullfillment By Amazon), seller I have
always been interested in the private branding of products
as a means of offering products to which you have added
your private brand and thereby pretty much eliminate much
competition from other sellers.

I know that bundling of products is a very effective sales
method. This is where you add a number of branded products
together, purchase your own barcode and then create a sales
page on Amazon for the product. This is not private branding
where you are offering a product with your company name but
merely combining some major brand products to make a special
offer.

It would appear that "private branding" is a profitable sales
tactic as I have read a number of success stories from people
who claim to be doing just that. From the little I know about
the course being discussed in this thread it appears that this
is the exact tactic they propose.

Buy a wholesale product, get some art work for a logo and then
package that product under your company name. Buyers might be
convinced that you are the only distributor of said products or
might even think you manufacture the products.

This is what has always concerned me about this process. Do you
recall all the problems with the Chinese drywall following the
Katrina disaster. Or all the many problems with lead tainted
toys from China.

With the society we live in where there are attorneys hiding
behind every tree looking for a reason, valid or not, to file a
class action suit, could you be in jeopardy if one of the
products you private labeled developed some sort of issue.

Tainted with some unknown substance, choking hazard, sharp
edges or possibly you did not warn all of your customers with
a six page document of things they should not do with this
product.

Of course liability insurance could be considered. However I
wonder how expensive a policy would be for a small seller
once you explained to the insurance company that you intended
to purchase unknown products and advertise them as your companies
personal products?

Additionally once you are tagged with a law suit whether you are
guilty of wrongdoing or not you will have to defend yourself with
expensive legal advice.

Having said all of this it could be that those that have been
using this tactic have considered this risk and have methods in
place to protect themselves. Or possibly they use great care to
choose only products that limit the potential problems.

All I am suggesting here is that some consideration be given to
this issue before undertaking private branding. Perhaps for those
of you who are considering purchasing the course under discussion
here might ask that questions of the sellers and see what response
you receive.

On another note for those wondering if it is possible to earn a
profitable income through selling physical products on Amazon let
me just add that my wife and I have been able to fullfill a life's
dream of traveling at will and paying for the travel through sales
on Amazon.

Hands off? Not really. We do spend time while traveling sourcing
products to sell. But thanks to the Amazon FBA program we simply
box them up from where ever we are, drop the boxes off at a UPS
store. They go into an amazon warehouse and when they sell Amazon
does all the shipping and handling and sends a deposit every two
weeks into our checking account.

As I write this post I am sitting in a motel in Ocala Florida and
smiling as I check my email for the sales that have come in over
night and realize that we are able to escape Michigan winters
because of Amazon.

Don't look for any affiliate product provided by me with all the
secret stuff we use to accomplish this. A little research on Google,
and perhaps the purchase of a few "reasonably priced" Amazon
courses would give you all the information you need to decide if
Amazon or private branding is right for you.

All the best.

Chet Hastings
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As an Amazon FBA, (Fullfillment By Amazon), seller I have
always been interested in the private branding of products
as a means of offering products to which you have added
your private brand and thereby pretty much eliminate much
competition from other sellers.
So is private branding something you have been doing yourself? or is it just something you have considered?

Thanks for pointing out some of the potential legal issues.

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I have not done any private branding mainly for the reasons I have mentioned above. Please remember my post is just my opinion and may be worth what you have paid for it.

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i was asked to promote it, but decided not to. My bullshit radar in on high alert. In my early days, I used to quote how much money I made to try and desperately get people to open up their wallets so I can pay my bills. Today, I would not dare do that. When you reach a certain level. You don't have to. Nor would I share it.
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I know squat about this product, but here's what I'm thinking:

1. They're selling the product because it's likely to make more money for them than the process the product describes.

-or-

2. The process works, but only to a limited degree and they've tapped it out. There's no more money to be made with the process...except by selling it.

Could be wrong; that's a daily occurrence.

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i was asked to promote it, but decided not to. My bullshit radar in on high alert. In my early days, I used to quote how much money I made to try and desperately get people to open up their wallets so I can pay my bills. Today, I would not dare do that. When you reach a certain level. You don't have to. Nor would I share it.
Good for you, Mark; you have risen above the others. My inbox was full of promos for this from marketers (at a certain level) that are now deleted. Its almost as if they are getting desperate, or something.

Or is it just plain greed? Maybe they don't care if long-time subscribers unsub from them since so many more newbies will sign up.

But really - no ethics, whatsoever from those that pretend to be such ethical marketers. What a crock. I guess by the time people figure out what they're really about and have moved on, they have a whole new set of unsuspecting people to fool and extract money from.

Whatever happened to helping people and giving good value? :confused:
I always thought that was the best way to do business, but what do I know......... It's like they have forgotten who they are and now only see $$ signs.

As my own business grows, I will have to keep this in mind. I don't ever want to forget that helping others comes first. Well, it seems to have worked well for Oprah, anyway LOL
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OK...59 ASM emails and counting. Bonuses over 6000.00; iPads; emergency webinars. Warms my heart to see how much they care.

Someone mentioned a certain guru being involved...maybe hired to dress up AMM from last year and trot it out again?
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SheraLee, I have also had a lot of promos for this offer from different marketers I have respected that's why I thought that this offer has to be legit. I haven't unsubscribed from their list so far as you did, but definitely I cannot trust them anymore. I am glad that I decided to check this forum first before making any decisions, that's what the experience has taught me to do and that saved me a lot of money.

And I agree with you that there should be the ethics in this business, not greed.

Jim Cockrum also did bring a great points about internet marketing, I appreciate that.
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OK...59 ASM emails and counting. Bonuses over 6000.00; iPads; emergency webinars. Warms my heart to see how much they care.

Someone mentioned a certain guru being involved...maybe hired to dress up AMM from last year and trot it out again?
This would be John Reese.
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The ASM promo email I received from John Reese was just a link, without even a hint of a bonus as far as I could see. ( Not that I'm too bothered about bonuses as they usually just divert your attention )
I also received ASM promos from other respected IMers, who were convinced it was the best path to follow. ( the 50% commission aside).
Having been tipped off about ASM by people whose views I had respected up to that point, I had a look and was impressed.
All I then needed to do was check out the WF. Well, I reckon there is enough info in this thread alone to get you going.
Certainly saved me some money.
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Here is what I know...I purchased the course they came out with last year that they sold for $1k...was it worth $1k? Certainly not! I guess if you were complete newbie it would be helpful but still i think it was overpriced.
I did too, and refunded. Wrote about it on WF.


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With this said, here is my recommendation. If you don't know much about FBA, where to find inventory, how to sell, etc, check out Jim Cockrum's course.
Jim Cockrum's course is great. The only downside is he focuses on a retail arbitrage process and that can be difficult to scale and sustain, and for some people it's just not doable. However, all the basic building blocks are there. Where Amazing Selling Machine improves is by focusing on manufacturing, branding and marketing. Or private labeling, branding and marketing. But you don't need the course to do that. However, you do need to understand how to purchase from manufacturers and/or distributors, the basics of branding and product promotion and marketing.

The easiest way to start, though, is regular purchasing just to get a feel for what is involved. I don't think it makes sense for someone who has never done it to invest in private label products off the bat. IMO, you need a little experience working with the system and dealing with the kinks, possibly getting UPC exemptions or special category approval and that can take time.


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The training seemed more along the lines of Ebay sellers now selling on Amazon FBA instead. Overall the course seems like good information but was looking for the info about automating the supply process and never having to box/ship my own stuff.
Agreed. However, if someone is new to selling on Amazon, this probably has the best value for getting started even if you cannot or will not follow the process.

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I think the most noticeable difference between the two is the new one is all about private labeling with wider profit margins rather than the former one which was dropshipping?
YES! The first one skipped over FBA which was vital to really making Amazon work. This one goes into private labeling, which just makes them seem like they intentionally hold back good stuff because how could they have launched that course last year and NOT have gone into detail about FBA or private labeling? It's not like that just NOW became a competitive advantage.

They also seem to have software tools that are rolled in, which give the impression that they are spammy backlinking tools that they are throwing at Amazon because it's really hard to have a negative SEO effect on Amazon.

Having said that, all the information above is freely available.


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Amazon is also very strict with their rules. Ignore the policies and it's easy to end up with a suspended/cancelled account.
And breaking amazon rules can even mean not doing something bad. For instance, not submitting data feeds to your sandbox account. Ask me how I know. Account cancelled for months, inventory sitting in the warehouse. You have to be able to deal with the unexpected whenever you're in an inventory based business/


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Of course liability insurance could be considered. However I wonder how expensive a policy would be for a small seller
once you explained to the insurance company that you intended to purchase unknown products and advertise them as your companies
personal products?
Once your business gets to a certain point, you should have liability insurance just because. Importing from China means fewer insurers will cover you, and at a higher cost, but it is affordable, and there are specialized insurers for niches that commonly import, to help prevent overpaying for a policy. It's great selling online without some of the traditional business risks, but you can't escape everything all the time and sometimes you just have to suck it up and protect yourself and your business. In my personal experience without the importing the liability policy can be acquired for around $500, with the importing, around $1500-3000 (or more, depending, and that's for a low risk category).

And also, that would mean there are categories you want to avoid if you want to reduce your liability. For example, I won't touch items that plug into sockets. Don't want the liability.

This is not specific to Amazon, because I acquired my liability insurance for other reasons, prior to selling on Amazon. It's great solely selling online with very few requirements, but when you want to get into other opportunities these things are required (for example, selling wholesale TO retailers) so it's nothing that someone should be afraid of if they intend to build a sustainable and thriving business.


But going back to the topic:

$3500 is a lot of money and you could probably pay a really really smart college kid to research everything about selling on amazon, write a custom report and buy more training material and still come out less expensive than that. I look at is what I learned worth what i paid and with this one, I'm not sure. With their last launch, it was not worth $997 (even though their software was fantastic it was missing critical features), and there's no reason to believe this one is any different.

One last thing about selling on Amazon

You need to have money to get started. Amazon pays out twice a month. It takes 3-4 days to hit your bank account. If you wait for your deposit to re-order/stock up, it's around 2-3 weeks to get things over to fulfillment and into your inventory. Therefore, you need to be able to purchase at least 30 days of inventory to really make it through otherwise you're dropping momentum with stock outs. I don't feel they are entirely clear with that. Yes you get paid like clockwork, however, if your inventory is getting low, you need to be able to re-order without waiting for a disbursement because Amazon's inbound fulfillment (getting your items into their inventory system) is just not the fastest thing.
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If it sounds too good to be true then it is. Take a look at Scamworld: 'Get rich quick' mutates into an unstoppable monster


I will not tell you whose face you will see if you watch the video, but you can probably guess. I will add some of these people have taken my money and I have nothing to show for it except a receipt. Wouldn't that be an interesting product!
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I don't have a lot of posts, but I wanted to add my humble two cents this time.

During this whole fiasco, I've unsubscribed from 98% of email marketers. Why? I've learned to discern.

This is a relatively new product, right? Are you sure your own promoter has completed the program?

Many are complaining about the two guys in the program, but they have at least done it and are making the money.

Shouldn't we be more concerned about the integrity of the JV partnerships so prevalent in the IM marketplace and our "guru friends" promoting programs without having tried them?

I've done amazon FBA.. yes, it works, and yes, it even works to the tune of those two guys if you know what to do. But why are all these people promoting this when they've NEVER done it? This is what we need to ask of ourselves first... the promoters are the "best in the industry" and they haven't done it, so why are they telling YOU & ME to give it a go... for $3,500???

It's probably a good program (as I was able to make good money without the program) but that isn't the point!

Feel a bit sad about this whole thing.


Note: This is not to say that anyone is bad. But when I recommend something as little as a $2 cup of coffee, I do so after I've tried and only when I absolutely love it. Don't you? The same promoters will ironically sell you on "reputation management" next week!
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Every WSO that I bought in my life was my fault and so was everything else.
Please guys, no sour grapes.




Last night I had a friend who seriously asked,

"Who is your trusted one?"
I replied, "Jim Cockrum" ... funny never ever know him

Guys, it's not about the money
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Also people buy products by brand, because of trust which is earned. If you check most categories in Amazon, you will see that most of the best sellers are branded products like Brita, Philips, Morphy Richards, etc etc. How do we compete against global players like these?
It's easier to compete in categories where there's more brand diversification. You have to think: in what areas are people more likely to try a niche or unknown brand? In certain categories niche brands make up a sizable portion of the market share.

Or in what categories will people give a chance to a less expensive alternative? Me personally (Philips) I have shelled out enough money on Sonicare and Clarisonic that I'd roll the dice on a less expensive competitor, if it was just as good.

There are also categories where big brands don't dominate because the market is too small for them, but still big enough for a smaller company.

This is where I think having general business experience really helps. if all you're into is internet marketing, you can develop tunnel vision. Go to a few trade shows for products and broaden your scope.
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so they did a webinar and still no software demo? wow..
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I'm humbled and honored by that. Seriously.

If I ever do anything to lose that trust please kick my butt. I pledge to keep on earning your trust every day.

My approach is simple - I don't promote launches or fads. I grow my own business, and if something legit and sustainable is working for me THEN I tell my friends about it & charge a fair price to train those who want training. This way I can hire good people & pay my staff well to train those who want it - all the while we run my businesses DOING what we teach BEFORE we teach it. It's really not complicated to do the right thing.

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What I mean is this whole thread turned out to be something different.

And if anyone is into offline, that's what Jim teaches day in and day out... take action. Please don't be fearful, thinking you cannot do, because you really can. Guys, I got my first $3,500 set-up client with $597 for 2 years and the two years is up now.

If Jim teaches you anything, he's genuine while most are not!!! But with or without him, please do it. No WSO will EVER do it for you, $7 or $4,000.- what I'm saying is if you want to leave it to a chance, your chance is better with him than anyone else... Just saying...
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Hi Jim, I bought your Proven Amazon Course yesterday and am almost through the Silent Sales Machine book already. I echo the same sentiments. I am very impressed with your sound techniques and integrity and I'm very excited about your course. Thanks, Joe

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I'm humbled and honored by that. Seriously.

If I ever do anything to lose that trust please kick my butt. I pledge to keep on earning your trust every day.

My approach is simple - I don't promote launches or fads. I grow my own business, and if something legit and sustainable is working for me THEN I tell my friends about it & charge a fair price to train those who want training. This way I can hire good people & pay my staff well to train those who want it - all the while we run my businesses DOING what we teach BEFORE we teach it. It's really not complicated to do the right thing.
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I will say though that Rusty Moore above recommending this Amazing Selling Machine product was interesting as he doesn't recommend much (if anything) and even told his list(which is one of the few I am on) that he isn't going to email his list anymore as he doesn't care for recommending IM products to people and would rather focus on his own business. He very easily could just keep recommending the latest and greatest products but doesn't want to.
1lov1,

Yeah...I'm not promoting this one either...I'm just pretty jazzed about the course.

Just thought I would come in here and make a counterpoint. I knew as soon as the priced was announced, that things would get a bit nutty on the Warrior Forum.

I don't make my income promoting I.M. products, I think in the past 3 years I've promoted Andre Chaperon's courses, Cover Social Press, and Profits Theme.

This Amazon product isn't for everyone, that is for sure.

...but for someone who makes at least a decent income online & wants to work in a community of people learning how to sell private label on Amazon...this is a great product.

I don't want to talk anyone into purchasing this.

I just don't believe it is fair to call it a scam.

Expensive (yes)...but that doesn't make it a scam.

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Andre is very quiet just like Jim Cockram. And I respect them the most. I haven't gone through the whole course but they're about being good people, not quick IM people.

I've done my share of comments for 3 (or seven, LOL!) years now.
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Yes, it's a lot of money, but.. in the defense of ASM, I said... no actually, to say you and I need to take action, I said:

Who was the the course for? Hopefully, it was to help people like you and me find quick and better answers to take care of our family, but how did we treat it (because we couldn't afford it.. maybe)? Another shiny object at a department of addicts (like down the old 42nd street where I used to take the bus to Jersey).

Guys, $4,000 course is not bad, even $40,000 course is awesome if you focus NOW! Why are you hanging out here whining? Go get clients! The $7 WSO you bought 2 days ago is just as good!

If and when you can put a course together for $3,500, let me know and I'll buy. Let's all wake up, okay? Many Loves!

Now, I've really "used" up my posts.

Why does everything I say sound "not-so-right"... no wonder I have less than 30 posts!
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Oh f***k, there there goes my final post.

Yes, it's expensive. Yes, I would NEVER buy it... actually not sure if I'd even take it for free (I'm busy too).

Who do I respect the most? Yes Jim Cockram and (the email King) Andrew (two people who hardly ever promote).


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Sorry if this is a dumb question...

Which product are you talking about here?...

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Thanks for asking.

Yes, the core Sourcing the RIGHT Products Wholesale to sell on Amazon course is all current material. The core course is 10 hours+ of step-by-step materials and I designed it so that people can start with the fundamentals and used the advanced materials as their business/skills grow.

I periodically add updates on new ways to do market research, as well as consumer trends (in fact, I'm in the process of adding some new videos now). All students get the updates included.

Students also have lifetime access to the course and all updates. I also do a monthly Q&A coaching call so that students can get their specific questions answered about sourcing products for their Amazon sales channel.

This course is strictly focused on wholesale sourcing, different ways to do market research to determine what products to source for Amazon, as well as how to spot pockets of opportunity, and consumer trends.

We don't cover any Amazon product page optimization or marketing in the course or nuts and bolts of Amazon selling. (Sourcing is such a big topic, I wanted to really keep the course focused on this core skill.)

I do teach marketing strategies for Amazon separately in my Strategic Biz Marketing program.

That being said, if our sourcing students ask a marketing question on one of our sourcing calls, I answer them.

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Hi Tim,
This is an ecommerce course that I teach on wholesale sourcing specifically desgined for 3rd party merchants selling in the Amazon marketplace.

(I've been working with online merchants who sell on Amazon, eBay, or an ecommerce website, since 2004.)

Not sure if it's OK to post a link, but you can find out more about me at Lisa Suttora DOT com.

The information about the sourcing course is at Lisa Suttora DOT com/amazonsourcing (or just click the products tab).

-Lisa
Thanks -- the reason I asked is because I see the AMM + that other ebook being discussed here -- so yours is a 3rd option then.

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(I've been working with online merchants who sell on Amazon, eBay, or an ecommerce website, since 2004.)
Lisa has a great reputation and has been a creative source of reliable information for years in the eBay/Amazon sourcing niche and many others. Glad to see her chime in here!
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Great thread! Thank you everyone for all of the input.

I have been trying to decide if I should buy the course since it does have a 30 day money back guarantee. So really not much to risk especially if the info proves to be valuable.

However, I did have a concern that the course is an 8 week course. Does this mean it can only be accessed as they release it? I really don't like that. I would rather be able to see the course in its entirety and work it at my own pace.

I just spoke to their support staff and they said "Yes, it can only be accessed as we release the modules per week"

I really don't like that set up.

Can anyone tell me how Jim Cockrum's Proven Amazon Course is set up? Does it provide the same type of info and does it offer software to help run the business?

Thank you for the feedback!
Thanks for that info, Scott. I've been down that road before, and I'd swear that they had degrees in psychology to know just the precise amount of information/training to provide before the refund date. Curiosity and those dollar signs dancing in your head, plus if the training was effectively given to that point - well, it all makes it a very difficult decision. (My decision truly backfired once.) I wouldn't be surprised if you continually hear that 'that's coming later in the course'.

I was on a webinar with them 3/14/13. They had written that it was to be about the great software we would be using, and once it got started they mentioned 7 softwares, but then went on to only (sort of) cover, I'm pretty sure - 3 of them. I kept asking what about the other software, but they were having too much FUN giving away Amazon gift certificates. If you'd like to Hear & Watch how Honest they are, this is a link to the very same webinar, I believe. No way I'm going to watch it again to verify Webinar Replay | The Amazing Selling Machine
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they aren't - but it certainly did take up a great deal of the webinar time in two different spots. I've purchased from Jason Katzenback (w/Jason Potash) before and he did excellent video tutorials and I believe he has a very good reputation. I do not know Matt Clark.

But, is that what's happening lately? Like Jon Shugart / Mailer Millionaire?
That's another thread that I just haven't had the oomph to comment on yet. Maybe I will if I hear that they reopen.

Take care all...

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...The information about the sourcing course is at Lisa Suttora DOT com/amazonsourcing (or just click the products tab).

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Hi Lisa

do you have a coupon code for your course?

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Of course there are many marketers who are searching for that
"hands Free", check into Starbucks a few days a week and see
how my magic business is running, type of business.

The course being discussed here may be it. But my thoughts, run
along the lines of an Amazon business where you have to do some
work just like any other "real business", learn how to purchase
good product and market it on Amazon.

$3500, if used to purchase product to resell and a few courses
from folks like Jim Cockrum, Lisa Suttora, Skip McGrath and a
few others, along with a litle Google searching and some honest
study, could be the basis of an honest to goodness Amazon
business.

I am just an old guy in my 70s how would I know anything about
any of this? Well as I write this post I am sitting in a motel
in Ocala, Fla. Been here for a few days and came here from
Jacksonville, Fla, where my wife and I spent 7 days.

We are from Michigan and if you check the weather reports from
Mi and Fla it will be easy to figure out why we are here. Our poor
Ford Escape is loaded to the roof with product we have purchased
from thrift stores in the last 10 days.

(We made a mistake on this trip. We usually carry the printers
and other stuff needed to send products off to Amazon from
where ever we happen to be. That way the stuff gets to the
Amazon warehouse and starts to earn for us while we are
still enjoying our travels. We did not do that this trip).

Those products, which allow us to travel where ever and whenever
we choose, were purchased with a little labor and lots of
knowledge gained from the folks I mentioned above who I still
listen to and gladly continue to purchase their training and
advice.

Although we have been selling on eBay and Amazon for over 10 years
the real change in our lives began last April when we began using
the Amazon FBA system. My goal in the last few years has been to
build a sustainable business that would allow my wife to live
comfortably if I should pass away before her.

I did Amazon affiliate marketing for a number of years but came to
realize that keeping up with all the Google changes and other work
necessary to maintain a series of those types of sites would not be
possible for her.

Amazon FBA on the other hand is the answer. She could grab a sister
or one of our grown children or even a grandchild and continue on
with this business. I try not to remind her of this too often in
case she decided that if somehow I was gone a little earlier her
life might be even more enjoyable.

While this business model is allowing us to really enjoy life,
(stopped at a country gift shop in the middle of nowhere yesterday,
nothing but a four corner type of location, and bought a bunch of
CDs and Pez dispensers to send off to Amazon), our age and health
will not allow us to travel forever.

That's why I continue to purchase training products and follow the
advice from the trusted folks I mentioned above to gain the
knowledge of wholesale purchase so we can expand our business when
our bodies began to remind us that we ain't in our 50s any longer.

If I was 20 years younger the ideas that the guys selling the course
that began this thread in the first place might appeal to me. However
when you began to realize that you no long have the time to experiment
and try new things it is comforting to know there is a business model
that has been successful and will most likely continue to be
successful for many years. And being enjoyable doe's not hurt either.

Sorry for taking up so much space but I thought it might be helpful to
some to know that the Amazon system can in fact work. There will always
be those forward thinkers who devise methods to improve on it and these
two guys may have done just that. I on the other hand am living a great
life based on old fashioned principles of business, old fashioned in
internet years, that just seem to keep working.

What ever system any of you choose to practice I wish you the same
success.

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do you have a coupon code for your course?

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I don't have a coupon at this time. The cost course of the full course, including the monthly Q&A calls (and all additional materials) is $197.

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Lisa has a great reputation and has been a creative source of reliable information for years in the eBay/Amazon sourcing niche and many others. Glad to see her chime in here!
Thanks Jim! I appreciate it.

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I don't have a coupon at this time. The cost course of the full course, including the monthly Q&A calls (and all additional materials) is $197.

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Hi Lisa, I opened a ticket at your support center...I'll be picking up your course. I'm confident this and Jim's course is more than sufficient information for me to thrive on Amazon...and eBay.
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I received a private message from this gentleman and am posting his question and answer here. I won't answer any more questions in the thread because I am taking the thread away from it's original intent. But if the information I provided for Sajid helps him maybe it will help others also.

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Dear Mr. Chet,

I am impressed by your posts that you have on Amazon FBA and also you recommend highly Jim for his Amazon Proven Course. If you don't mind, would you let me know, if his course offers FBA and how to select products? What criteria do you use to select products? I hope my questions don't sound too stupid.
If we really do full time, do you think, we can replace day job? I am sure you may have answered and also, if you like, you can make a public reply so that everybody can know too.

Sajid
Hi Sajid. Yes Jim's PAC course is all about Amazon and FBA. I purchased his course just about 2 months ago even though I have been selling on Amazon for years but selling through FBA just since last April.

I have purchased other courses from him and for a number of years belonged to his paid membership.

I currently belong to Lisa's paid membership and have purchased a number of books from Skip McGrath including his wholesale buying guide just recently. I buy from others also and although a lot of material I get I already know and use I always seem to pick up one of two good tips that I was not familiar with and would never have known to search for them without purchasing various products.

My belief is that in any business you need to keep learning to keep growing. So I am happy to invest a portion of my Amazon earnings in new and updated courses and books.

My criteria for purchasing any product on Amazon basically is to try to buy products that I can list for 3 times the price I pay for it. Because Amazon takes about 40 percent of any sale using this method guarantees I can make a profit.

About replacing your full time job, yes I think it is possible but it will take a while and some investment. Don't believe the claims you see that state you can invest $100 and make a full time living on Amazon. It will take much more than that.

I also believe that to find good products at a good price you will need some tools. I use a couple of barcode scanners to find my products and so do almost every other serious Amazon seller.

I think if you are just starting out and if you want to get a good start you will need to spend a few hundred dollars on good solid Amazon training courses, join a few good free forums. One of the best in my opinion is the FBA forum on Yahoo groups.

Sign up for Skip; McGraths newsletter and also Jims and LIsa's. The more you know before you start the better your chances of success.

Please don't make the mistake of using your credit card to run out and buy a lot of product to sell on Amazon before you learn how to pick good selling products based on seller competition, price, product ranking and other variables.

Many of the ridiculous low prices you find on Amazon are from sellers who spend a ton of money and then when they don't get sales they beginning lowballing their prices to get their money back.

Amazon is different than eBay and you will be dealing with a different class of buyers. Learn all you can before making expensive product purchases. Many Amazon sellers start out with stuff from their own home or with books because they can be purchased for pennies and sold at very good markups. Amazon can be started very easily and inexpensively.

There are folks who can give you much better answers that I can. I only posted in this thread originally to give a different perspective to Amazon selling and the course the thread represented.

I am posting your question because of the way you asked your question but I do not want to distract from the original thread or try to pass myself off as some kind of expert which I am not.

Learn a lot, spend a little and over time I believe you can do very well. As you asked I will post your question and my answer in the thread.

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You get the Hero of the day award. That is a fantastic video link.


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I will not tell you whose face you will see if you watch the video, but you can probably guess. I will add some of these people have taken my money and I have nothing to show for it except a receipt. Wouldn't that be an interesting product!
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This Amazon product isn't for everyone, that is for sure.

...but for someone who makes at least a decent income online & wants to work in a community of people learning how to sell private label on Amazon...this is a great product.

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Rusty is right on.

If you want to learn how to "manufacture your own" or white label products and sell them through Amazon FBA, this is the course - and for that business model, it does not appear to be priced too badly.

If you want to learn how to sell all kinds of existing products (found at retail stores and other local buying outlets) on Amazon using FBA, then Jim Cockrum's Proven Amazon Course (PAC) fits the bill to a T.

It's a matter of which business model you are able to do right now and are ready and able to do right now.

Unfortunately, there will be a lot of people who bought the former course (ASM) that should've bought the latter course. (PAC)

I'm just glad to see that this is opening a lot of eyes toward the more realistic business models of selling physical products via ecommerce, (eBay / Amazon) which never really went away...

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If you want to learn how to "manufacture your own" or white label products and sell them through Amazon FBA, this is the course - and for that business model, it does not appear to be priced too badly.


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Thanks for the vote of support Dave!

For the public record though -the PAC course has (and is adding more soon) content re: creating "white label", bundles, your own bar codes etc.

The PAC course is a living, growing course that gains new content continually as successful students are tapped to teach the rest of us what they are doing that's working.
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I stand corrected, Jim - thanks for reminding me about the bundle concepts and the bar code examples - good stuff! And I like that it is constantly being updated and added-to.

Even though I'm known as an eBay expert, I actually started selling on Amazon (and Yahoo) back in 2000, when they offered online auctions right alongside eBay...

But once I really dug into the Proven Amazon Course, and saw some of the Amazon FBA success stories that Jim Cockrum highlighted, I realized that it's now time to take my product-sourcing knowledge and apply it to Amazon FBA.

And, although I will always do eBay because it's an awesome source of buyer traffic, (especially for high-demand products, which is my niche) this Amazon FBA thing is a whole 'nother animal that allows for scaling your business FAST. (like nothing I've seen so far)

It's very exciting!

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