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Unread 13th March 2013, 04:29 AM   #51
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I am not here to promote anything as it would be uncool, I am sure you would appreciate that. With that being said, if you look back to my second comment, you will see my detailed review.
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It has certainly been a very slick launch and to be fair some of the free content has been informative. That said, the price tag is extremely high.

I'd be interested to see what results and benefits purchasers will find a few months down the line once the hype has died off.
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There are plenty of schmucks out there who'll pay this price.
Indeed, there are.

In the what-seemed-like-forever ramp up leading to the big reveal of its outrageous price, I followed the Facebook comments on it. I've come to the conclusion that most people really are stupid, just based on the questions people asked. One thing I must give the guys selling it credit for is how patient and polite they were with most of them.

I'd have been willing to pay up to $500 for it. $3,500? They're out of their freaking minds.
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What I found rather amazing was that you are only allowed to use the software for 2 years.

After that they will figure something out! Maybe charge a nominal fee or something.

I think this sleight of hand was easily missed.

Do they think most will have fallen by the wayside or something?

These mega priced courses rarely fulfil all the hype. It is never as easy as they say. Nothing ever is.

So if you do buy then have your eyes wide open.

I'd hazard a guess that the refund rate for this will be over 50%....
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As someone making a full time living doing what they teach, I thought I'd chime in. First, I need to say I haven't bought the product and I think it's overpriced. I watched the free videos, the webinar with Matt Carter) and read all of the comments on the free videos and see that they are doing exactly what I've done (without the course). They find a product that is hot, they "make their own version" (basically brand it with a logo and in my case, a trademark) and sell it for higher prices than competing "brands" through FBA (fulfillment by Amazon) allowing their fulfillment process to be automated. This DOES work and it works well. However, I make around $10,000- $15,000 profit a month, NOT $100,000 (though I only have 2 branded products and they are not in the "best sellers"- they have 5-30 that ARE in the best sellers so it IS possible.)

With this said, here is my recommendation. If you don't know much about FBA, where to find inventory, how to sell, etc, check out Jim Cockrum's course. This course is really just a lot of products that previously sold separately all rolled into one. I had already purchased most of the material, ebooks etc separately before the "course" came out and this is how I got started. It WORKS! All the material that is included in this course is a steal even at full price!). I have ACTUALLY MADE MONEY putting this into practice

If you don't want to spend money, pick up the first e-book I ever read on the subject:
Selling on Amazon's FBA Program
(I actually paid money for this one back in the day and it was WORTH it!)

All of this to say, these guys are NOT lying that this opportunity is HUGE. If you purchase the course and put it into action, you WILL make your money back in a short time. However, what really rubbed me the wrong way was how everything is presented as "easy" and "anyone can do this." The truth is, there are headaches, blood, sweat and tears put into this kind of business. It's not "easy" and you have a lot of roadblocks and failures before finding something that will be successful, but it IS worth it and judging from the free videos and PDFs, these guys DO have some GREAT strategies for doing what I've done- and they do it a lot quicker and better! If the price was under $500, I would probably buy, but since I've already been through the process, the free information was enough to get some ideas rolling... Hope this helps anyone who is considering this.
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Well, it looks like there are four choices:

  • Amazon Training Academy (ATA) which appears to more about being an Amazon Affiliate. Price = $1.00 for a week and $37.00 there after.
  • Amazon Money Machine (AMM) which appears to be the "beta" of Amazon Selling Machine (ASM). Price = $1000 with a 4 payment plan of $277.00.
  • Jim Cockrum's Proven Amazon Course (PAC). Price - $347.00 one time payment.
  • Amazon Selling Machine as mentioned above. Price = Rumored to be $3497.00.

All seem to be from well respected IMers. ATA and PAC have both gotten positive reviews on IMReportCard. AMM has only one grade on IMReportCard, a D.But that is from only one reviewer so I would take that with a grain of salt. The reviews on Warrior Forum have been uninformative as far as I can see.

I'll wait to see what the release price is before I buy. I hope there will be reviews from some after it launches for real, but I am going to take a good look a Jim Cockrum's PAC as the alternative to ASM if the price of ASM is that high. If you buy in to ASM, please let us know what you find!

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I'm confused.
I bought the "old version" -- Azon Money Machine.
There was a TREMENDOUS amount of HYPE on it at the time (not THAT) long ago.
I fell for it.
I have paid $97/mo since then.
I really didn't get much out of it.
It all seems totally cut-throat -- w/ razor-thin margins.
If you do not chose wisely, it's easy to end up in the red.
Also, the content was very thin. The advice/responses was verrrry slow in coming.
I still hung in there -- and now I don't know how much I'll be "grandfathered" into the NEW version.
I hope THE NEWER VERSION IS better THAN THE OLD ONE!
What I don't get is, how can a pretty lame, but VERY HYPED thing like this become intensely FAMOUS at its launch, then pretty much DIE OUT (due to not being effective (methods)??? -- Then several months later -- HYPED UP AGAIN by the same people (JVs, etc.), with the SAME CLAIMS.
It's like it's being RESURRECTED!
How short are people's memories???
We've seen this movie before!
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This thread has been a great source if information. After doing much evaluation and research it looks to me like Jim Cockrum's Proven Amazon Course has a solid reputation and track record and is updated with new things all the time and has a huge private online community with a lot of stuff to help you out.

I just purchased it! Hopefully I will have some good news to report back in a few weeks. Warrior Forum is great for filtering through the BS, thanks for all the input!
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Like I said... We've seen this movie before (less than 1 year ago)...
Anyone seen Amazon Money Machine?

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I rarely write on the forum, but I had to say something..

Looks like thanks to Amazon Selling Machine a lot of people bought Jim Cockrum's Proven Amazon Course.. I bought Jim's course too!

Now my critism about ASM:

- Like many of you said, the "8 week course" is not ready.. AND for such higher product I want to get access to all the material from day 1.
- 30 Day policy? a joke! you still have 2 weeks to see the first class, another 3-4 to get a product on FBA.. 30 day policy is gone by now. And most probably they wont talk about ordering your porduct until week 2 or 3..
- and last, no software screenshots? no videos? the software claims to do a lot but nobody knows how it looks or works...

No thanks, I'm more than happy with Jim's course.

And this why a lots of "guru" promoted ASM:

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Our “Standard Commission” is 40% which earns you $1,398.80 PER SALE. *BUT*…
We’re offering a “Bonus Commission” of an additional 10% if you mail for all 3 pre-launch videos and the cart open.
You will then earn you a 50% commission or $1,748.50 PER SALE.
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go look the prices for the jv, Amazing Selling Machine JV Center
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SAVE YOUR MONEY!
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Like I said... We've seen this movie before (less than 1 year ago)...
Anyone seen Amazon Money Machine?

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I think the most noticeable difference between the two is the new one is all about private labeling with wider profit margins rather than the former one which was dropshipping? There, I just saved everyone $3,400+
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I see Mark Ling & his sidekick Matt Carter are peddling the ASM FBA course, as if it's the best thing they've ever seen online.
LOL ... and that's on top of their own "this is all you'll ever need to make it on the net" membership sites.

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The Amazon FBA has been around for a while now. If I was looking to purchase this knowledge, I would go with Jim Cockrum's Proven Amazon Course. If you are on his list, you will remember the special he had at Christmas for $99. He will likely still honor it if you ask. There is absolutely no need to pay $1000 or more for such knowledge.
I have to agree with the quality of Jim's PAC course. It's one of the few courses I'd feel comfortable recommending. I bought it at the sale price and have been slowly working through the ton of information that comes with it. My main business is offline so I bought it as a possible way for me to diversify. I was pleasantly surprised, it really opened my eyes to how to solve the shipping issue that plagued me when I used to run myself ragged on ebay years ago.

Now that my eyes have been opened on the correct way to streamline shipping, I can have a second look at that business model.

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Jim Cockrum is the most respected online and doesn't push stuff just to make a quick buck like most others do. He actually wants to give his readers VALUE, as well.
Yeah, he's literally one of only four internet marketers that don't spam by inbox with useless offers of the day, etc. Information actually worth reading (so far).

Maybe he can even post his thoughts on the hoopla over this new $3,500 shiny object course in his silent membership area.

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But money seems to play a huge part in what is promoted.
Sadly, money is the only thing that drives the majority of IM offers. Most are looking looking for patsies to churn and burn and more than a few are coming from fake it until you make it wannabes.
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I read through their pdfs which I though were pretty good but one red flag went up when they said that have already taught over 2000 people how to follow this business model.
They also kept saying that Jason just recently started selling physical products a few short months ago. Plus the course was just released yesterday.
These things all seem to contidict each other. - than a stop sign went up when I heard the price.
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Did you guys notice that Jim Cockrum is following this thread?

I know this because he thanked someone who was saying good words about him personally (not necessary about the course).

Refraining from participating into a thread that's discussing a competitor's product.

Not that anything is wrong if he participate...
But this by itself is a good sign that he's a good online businessman
and gives more credibility for his PAC course (I really have no affiliation with him what so ever).

Jim Cockrum... you have my respect

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So they are saying the old $1,000 course doesn't work, but the new $3,500 course does?

I predict next year's course, "Double Extra Secret Selling Machine"* (DESSM) will sell for $7K, and will really, really, really (no really!) work.

I hope the "hands on" training they're offering now, doesn't take the form of pulling my leg.

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* Y'just KNOW that domain name will be taken within the hour.
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I need to add my bit.

I have 10 years Ecommerce experience and uses to sell $80k per month on eBay back in the hay-days of easy eBay - Amazon we used to sell around $40k, anyway I digress...

You don't need the course - what they have given away as freebies / PDFs and Videos is enough, you don't need anything else.

I was surprised they gave so much away.

The number one part and most important key to all of this is the White Labelling of a Best Selling Product.

It's so easy to do with overseas suppliers and the rest is all handled by Amazon. Stay in bed and handle it all on your iPad/Nexus haha!

The clueless will pay $3k for the course and do nothing but that's what happens in the 80/20 rule of selling courses online.

If anyone wants training and has $500 per month I'd be happy to show you how to do this stuff
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I need to add my bit.

I have 10 years Ecommerce experience and uses to sell $80k per month on eBay back in the hay-days of easy eBay - Amazon we used to sell around $40k, anyway I digress...

You don't need the course - what they have given away as freebies / PDFs and Videos is enough, you don't need anything else.

I was surprised they gave so much away.

The number one part and most important key to all of this is the White Labelling of a Best Selling Product.

It's so easy to do with overseas suppliers and the rest is all handled by Amazon. Say and bed and handle it all on your iPad/Nexus haha!

The clueless will pay $3k for the course and do nothing but that's what happens in the 80/20 rule of selling courses online.

If anyone wants training and has $500 per month I'd be happy to show you how to do this stuff
How possible is 30k.mo (profit)?
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How possible is 30k.mo (profit)?
Where is $30k?
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Ok, I looked through the Proven Amazon Course mentioned above and it does cover the FBA basics and seems good. Much of the content was done in a couple years ago. It covers a lot about selling books through Amazon FBA and the strategy of finding cheap clearance items at local Walmart/target that you buy and then sell it for more on Amazon FBA for pricing arbitrage. Both strategies involve getting your products put together, packaging, printing your own labels out and shipping everything yourself to Amazon FBA. It also involved selling lots of products at the same time through Amazon FBA. I have zero interest in selling books or boxing/labeling my own stuff so not sure now much this helped me

It briefly mentioned on a video presentation slide that you could do "Advanced" strategies with Amazon FBA by having your supplier ship directly to Amazon and have then send the labels to amazon. I didn't see anywhere where it shows you how to remove yourself from the process of having to package,label, and ship your products to Amazon FBA. The training seemed more along the lines of Ebay sellers now selling on Amazon FBA instead. Overall the course seems like good information but was looking for the info about automating the supply process and never having to box/ship my own stuff.

I didn't buy Amazon Selling Machine but it seems the Amazon Selling machine product is more about removing yourself as much as you can from the process such as focusing on the "Advanced" FBA concepts of using suppliers that ship/label for you and send to the Amazon FBA warehouse.

Amazon selling machine seemed more oriented around limiting the products you sell but going deep with a specific product like different models/sizes so you limit your FBA storage costs and shipping costs......or private labeling the product so other sellers can't piggyback on your product and depress margins. The Amazon Selling Machine software was about automating the customer feedback process for you using Amazon API's get reviews and manage the customer feedback loop for you ? (would have been helpful if they showed an actual inside look at the software being provided)

Amazon Selling Machine seems more about scaling large with specific limited number products and trying to automate the supply process ?

Just seemed to be some differences in the approach between the 2 products and not sure if Proven Amazon Course provides the same info except the core FBA basics ?

I did find it strange that Amazon Selling Machine didn't have any testimonials and results shown from their "Beta" testers ? (They said it was legal stuff but any product owner can just have the standard disclaimers to take care of that like "These results are not guaranteed and are not typical" and show testimonials of their success stories.) The price is certainly steep but I guess people pay those numbers easily for high level mentoring and masterminds so if the quality of people in it are high then there is value there. I guess the big question if if it really is "exclusive" and won't reopen again.

I will say though that Rusty Moore above recommending this Amazing Selling Machine product was interesting as he doesn't recommend much (if anything) and even told his list(which is one of the few I am on) that he isn't going to email his list anymore as he doesn't care for recommending IM products to people and would rather focus on his own business. He very easily could just keep recommending the latest and greatest products but doesn't want to.
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See, that's why I love this forum!

I've been watching the AMS videos and was all set to buy, until I found out the final price. Holy Cow!

I actually don't have a problem with paying an enormous price for something, provided I know I can make the money back by using the course. I have to be able to find this out within the refund period.

But since the content in this product is only available in a weekly web course, it means I'd only be through half of the classes before the refund period expires. Too risky. If it was really that easy to make lots of money using their product, they'd have a longer refund period.

That, along with the fact they want to start charging me to use their software after 2 years made me think twice. I'm also not comfortable with the software being on their own servers (not something I download) and their staff having to review all content published with it. It means that whatever product I decide to sell, they're going to know about it. I don't trust that.

Thanks for all the posts. You saved me a lot of money. I'm going to buy Jim Cockrum's course.
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Good job doing your homework. Now take that $3500 and reinvest that back into your current biz.
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I dunno where 30K is, but 40K is in the 2nd sentence of your post...

How doable is that?

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I have 10 years Ecommerce experience and uses to sell $80k per month on eBay back in the hay-days of easy eBay - Amazon we used to sell around $40k, anyway I digress...

You don't need the course - what they have given away as freebies / PDFs and Videos is enough, you don't need anything else.

I was surprised they gave so much away.

The number one part and most important key to all of this is the White Labelling of a Best Selling Product.

It's so easy to do with overseas suppliers and the rest is all handled by Amazon. Stay in bed and handle it all on your iPad/Nexus haha!

The clueless will pay $3k for the course and do nothing but that's what happens in the 80/20 rule of selling courses online.

If anyone wants training and has $500 per month I'd be happy to show you how to do this stuff
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Good job doing your homework. Now take that $3500 and reinvest that back into your current biz.
No Kidding! I can't believe anyone would even consider paying that much for knowledge that can be found (better) elsewhere. There really is a "sucker born every minute" but there are a few who are smart and do their homework first before rushing in.......


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I had been meaning to unsub from a lot of lists and I will give this course credit for one thing...it has given me the kick in the pants needed to do so. I have unsubbed from everyone who mailed for this and let them know why. I would have thought that one of them would have at least offered a reach-around as a bonus.
Yes, me as well. Gone from my inbox is Mark Ling, Matt Carter, Gauher Chaudhry, and a couple of others. They have lost all credibility. It's plain to see that money is their main objective. I used to buy into the "I'm here to help you because I too, have been burned before" routine, but my eyes are opened now.
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Ok, I looked through the Proven Amazon Course mentioned above and it does cover the FBA basics and seems good. Much of the content was done in a couple years ago. It covers a lot about selling books through Amazon FBA and the strategy of finding cheap clearance items at local Walmart/target that you buy and then sell it for more on Amazon FBA for pricing arbitrage. Both strategies involve getting your products put together, packaging, printing your own labels out and shipping everything yourself to Amazon FBA. It also involved selling lots of products at the same time through Amazon FBA. I have zero interest in selling books or boxing/labeling my own stuff so not sure now much this helped me

It briefly mentioned on a video presentation slide that you could do "Advanced" strategies with Amazon FBA by having your supplier ship directly to Amazon and have then send the labels to amazon. I didn't see anywhere where it shows you how to remove yourself from the process of having to package,label, and ship your products to Amazon FBA. The training seemed more along the lines of Ebay sellers now selling on Amazon FBA instead. Overall the course seems like good information but was looking for the info about automating the supply process and never having to box/ship my own stuff.

I didn't buy Amazon Selling Machine but it seems the Amazon Selling machine product is more about removing yourself as much as you can from the process such as focusing on the "Advanced" FBA concepts of using suppliers that ship/label for you and send to the Amazon FBA warehouse.

Amazon selling machine seemed more oriented around limiting the products you sell but going deep with a specific product like different models/sizes so you limit your FBA storage costs and shipping costs......or private labeling the product so other sellers can't piggyback on your product and depress margins. The Amazon Selling Machine software was about automating the customer feedback process for you using Amazon API's get reviews and manage the customer feedback loop for you ? (would have been helpful if they showed an actual inside look at the software being provided)

Amazon Selling Machine seems more about scaling large with specific limited number products and trying to automate the supply process ?

Just seemed to be some differences in the approach between the 2 products and not sure if Proven Amazon Course provides the same info except the core FBA basics ?

I did find it strange that Amazon Selling Machine didn't have any testimonials and results shown from their "Beta" testers ? (They said it was legal stuff but any product owner can just have the standard disclaimers to take care of that like "These results are not guaranteed and are not typical" and show testimonials of their success stories.) The price is certainly steep but I guess people pay those numbers easily for high level mentoring and masterminds so if the quality of people in it are high then there is value there. I guess the big question if if it really is "exclusive" and won't reopen again.

I will say though that Rusty Moore above recommending this Amazing Selling Machine product was interesting as he doesn't recommend much (if anything) and even told his list(which is one of the few I am on) that he isn't going to email his list anymore as he doesn't care for recommending IM products to people and would rather focus on his own business. He very easily could just keep recommending the latest and greatest products but doesn't want to.
This is the issue. I was in touch with Jim Cockrum for the Proven Amazon Course and it does appear that it is not as complete. Maybe this is wrong but it doesn't appear the Proven Amazon Course goes into any detail about how to take yourself out of the process and have products shipped directly to Amazon FBA. Has this course been updated with this information? Does anyone know?
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This is the issue. I was in touch with Jim Cockrum for the Proven Amazon Course and it does appear that it is not as complete. Maybe this is wrong but it doesn't appear the Proven Amazon Course goes into any detail about how to take yourself out of the process and have products shipped directly to Amazon FBA. Has this course been updated with this information? Does anyone know?
From what I understand, PAC may not cover this....but honestly, it's not a big secret. Get/Print the packaging forms from Amazon, and send them to your supplier to put on your shipments to FBA. It more revolves around how many suppliers will actually do this for you, and if you can find them. Based on the pitches for ASM, I'm pretty sure they don't help you find suppliers other than recommending Google.
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What $3500 course? I have no idea what you are talking about and I'm certain I have no opinions on the matter.


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I have to agree with the quality of Jim's PAC course...he's literally one of only four internet marketers that don't spam by inbox with useless offers of the day, etc. Information actually worth reading (so far).

Maybe he can even post his thoughts on the hoopla over this new $3,500 shiny object course in his silent membership area.
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The "theory" behind the PAC course is one that should be modeled for ANY legitimate course or training offered in the "online entrepreneur" niche. It's time to raise the standards of what we expect from the courses we buy.

The PAC's standard that I think we need for the entire industry:

1) Make it affordable - always
2) no bright shiny objects allowed (cut the graphics crap. As buyers we don't care - or at least we SHOULDN'T!)
3) Start small, grow slow (no big launches - PROVE it first...we'll buy later once you have REAL testimonials)
4) Recruit early successful students to present their ideas to the rest of us as it grows. Let the content GROW as new creative ideas and people come on board.
5) Hire successful students to monitor the MANDATORY INCLUDED discussion forums and let everyone hang out and learn there
6) No time limits on refunds. NONE.
7) End guru worship (again, we really shouldn't care should we?)
8) Your "expert testimonials" are crap. Show us real people giving their FIRST EVER testimonial. Those are the only ones that matter.

Am I forgetting anything?

How can YOU help make this a reality? STOP BUYING STUFF THAT YOU KNOW IS GARBAGE.

Lesson for my "expert" colleagues: If you aim your marketing at idiots you'll soon have an audience of the same.

NOTE: NONE of these comments are directed at the creators of ASM because I've spent exactly ZERO minutes looking at their course, offer, content or website.

Thanks for all the support here guys.
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Am I forgetting anything?

How can YOU help make this a reality? STOP BUYING STUFF THAT YOU KNOW IS GARBAGE.

Lesson for my "expert" colleagues: If you aim your marketing at idiots you'll soon have an audience of the same.

Thanks for all the support here guys.

Well, that sums it up nicely....... good tips for all people; both on the selling and buying side.

No Jim, THANK YOU, for being the lighthouse on a rough sea of IM waters filled with low morals and greed.

And yes, people have to have enough sense to walk away from things that don't "feel" right, even if they can't put their finger on exactly what bothers them.
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I've been hesitant to chime in on this thread, because I rarely post here, but I think I can add some additional perspective on this.

I haven't seen this course, although I did review the videos and the PDF.

The Amazon model that they are referring to is a legitimate business model.

Importing products for private label (or buying imported products domestically and private labeling them) is a model that is viable and can be profitable on Amazon (or in other online/offline retail venues) because the Cost of Goods is generally less than if you were to buy from a wholesale supplier.

This isn't a new model. Retailers have been doing this for years.

In the past few years it's become easier for solopreneurs to use this model of product sourcing and work directly with manufacturers in China to private label/import.

However, that being said there is a LOT more involved in running a business like this than push button money.

Some things to consider:

1. To keep a business like this profitable, you must continually have new products in the pipeline. You may find a good product today, and if you're lucky have six months with it on Amazon before someone replicates it and you have to retool. If you don't like keeping up with product trends, doing market research and constantly being on the lookout for product innovation, as well as understanding product categories - this model is not for you.

2. There are a lot of logistics involved with importing. While it is much easier than it used to be, it requires knowledge, due diligance and work.

3. Selling on Amazon requires that you keep up on policies, know the in's and out's of listing on FBA, managing your FBA inventory, knowing how to reprice, handling returns and customer service issues, dealing with the Nexus sales tax issues, creating search engine optimized product pages and knowing how to drive traffic externally from Amazon to your product page. Even when using FBA, Amazon is not a hands-off business model. You need to be present and work it daily.

Amazon is also very strict with their rules. Ignore the policies and it's easy to end up with a suspended/cancelled account.

4. You have to like retail. The most successful sellers love the business. (Just like any business, really.) It takes a lot of interest in product trends and consumer trends to be able to spot pockets of opportunity. If the idea of keeping up on what consumers want to buy, what's trending on Amazon (and why) leaves you cold, ecommerce is not the business to be in.

I strongly encourage anyone who is considering entering into an ecommerce business to try the process first BEFORE committing yourself to a model that may not be for you.

Sign up for a free Sell Individual account on Amazon. Do some retail arbitrage (buy some inventory on clearance at a local store and list it and sell it on Amazon).

See if you like the PROCESS of selling on Amazon first, before investing a ton of money in learning the model and/or buying inventory.

If you give it six months and discover that you like being an online merchant, then decide next how you want to source your inventory.

This is not the get rich quick path, but it will put you on track to building a successful ecommerce business if that's what you decide you want to do.

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WOW!

I'm so glad I came here first to see what the words were on this course. I just get hit with the email video and after listening to it I immediately ran to my favorite review source "TWF".

I really appreciate everyone's honesty and condor on this product.

Hopefully these guys will clean up their act since the majority of their customers are Internet marketers from other peoples list.

I'm not to sure this course will even make it out of the gate with all of these glowing reviews ... LOL!
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I've been hesitant to chime in....
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Thanks Lisa for a very informative post.
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As an Amazon FBA, (Fullfillment By Amazon), seller I have
always been interested in the private branding of products
as a means of offering products to which you have added
your private brand and thereby pretty much eliminate much
competition from other sellers.

I know that bundling of products is a very effective sales
method. This is where you add a number of branded products
together, purchase your own barcode and then create a sales
page on Amazon for the product. This is not private branding
where you are offering a product with your company name but
merely combining some major brand products to make a special
offer.

It would appear that "private branding" is a profitable sales
tactic as I have read a number of success stories from people
who claim to be doing just that. From the little I know about
the course being discussed in this thread it appears that this
is the exact tactic they propose.

Buy a wholesale product, get some art work for a logo and then
package that product under your company name. Buyers might be
convinced that you are the only distributor of said products or
might even think you manufacture the products.

This is what has always concerned me about this process. Do you
recall all the problems with the Chinese drywall following the
Katrina disaster. Or all the many problems with lead tainted
toys from China.

With the society we live in where there are attorneys hiding
behind every tree looking for a reason, valid or not, to file a
class action suit, could you be in jeopardy if one of the
products you private labeled developed some sort of issue.

Tainted with some unknown substance, choking hazard, sharp
edges or possibly you did not warn all of your customers with
a six page document of things they should not do with this
product.

Of course liability insurance could be considered. However I
wonder how expensive a policy would be for a small seller
once you explained to the insurance company that you intended
to purchase unknown products and advertise them as your companies
personal products?

Additionally once you are tagged with a law suit whether you are
guilty of wrongdoing or not you will have to defend yourself with
expensive legal advice.

Having said all of this it could be that those that have been
using this tactic have considered this risk and have methods in
place to protect themselves. Or possibly they use great care to
choose only products that limit the potential problems.

All I am suggesting here is that some consideration be given to
this issue before undertaking private branding. Perhaps for those
of you who are considering purchasing the course under discussion
here might ask that questions of the sellers and see what response
you receive.

On another note for those wondering if it is possible to earn a
profitable income through selling physical products on Amazon let
me just add that my wife and I have been able to fullfill a life's
dream of traveling at will and paying for the travel through sales
on Amazon.

Hands off? Not really. We do spend time while traveling sourcing
products to sell. But thanks to the Amazon FBA program we simply
box them up from where ever we are, drop the boxes off at a UPS
store. They go into an amazon warehouse and when they sell Amazon
does all the shipping and handling and sends a deposit every two
weeks into our checking account.

As I write this post I am sitting in a motel in Ocala Florida and
smiling as I check my email for the sales that have come in over
night and realize that we are able to escape Michigan winters
because of Amazon.

Don't look for any affiliate product provided by me with all the
secret stuff we use to accomplish this. A little research on Google,
and perhaps the purchase of a few "reasonably priced" Amazon
courses would give you all the information you need to decide if
Amazon or private branding is right for you.

All the best.

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Milla04: What about writing a course for non US residents ? You seem to know what to do.
Does not need to be lengthy (succinct would be a bonus) but can still be valuable.

Please

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As an Amazon FBA, (Fullfillment By Amazon), seller I have
always been interested in the private branding of products
as a means of offering products to which you have added
your private brand and thereby pretty much eliminate much
competition from other sellers.
So is private branding something you have been doing yourself? or is it just something you have considered?

Thanks for pointing out some of the potential legal issues.

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I have not done any private branding mainly for the reasons I have mentioned above. Please remember my post is just my opinion and may be worth what you have paid for it.

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-Jim

You've definitely proved yourself a classy IM leader from what I've just read about you in this thread. Keep doing what your doing Inspiring and Teaching with a high level of Integrity. Look forward to connecting in person at one of your events!

Ps: didn't want to take away from the OP question, just wanted to voice my opinion.

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i was asked to promote it, but decided not to. My bullshit radar in on high alert. In my early days, I used to quote how much money I made to try and desperately get people to open up their wallets so I can pay my bills. Today, I would not dare do that. When you reach a certain level. You don't have to. Nor would I share it.
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I know squat about this product, but here's what I'm thinking:

1. They're selling the product because it's likely to make more money for them than the process the product describes.

-or-

2. The process works, but only to a limited degree and they've tapped it out. There's no more money to be made with the process...except by selling it.

Could be wrong; that's a daily occurrence.

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i was asked to promote it, but decided not to. My bullshit radar in on high alert. In my early days, I used to quote how much money I made to try and desperately get people to open up their wallets so I can pay my bills. Today, I would not dare do that. When you reach a certain level. You don't have to. Nor would I share it.
Good for you, Mark; you have risen above the others. My inbox was full of promos for this from marketers (at a certain level) that are now deleted. Its almost as if they are getting desperate, or something.

Or is it just plain greed? Maybe they don't care if long-time subscribers unsub from them since so many more newbies will sign up.

But really - no ethics, whatsoever from those that pretend to be such ethical marketers. What a crock. I guess by the time people figure out what they're really about and have moved on, they have a whole new set of unsuspecting people to fool and extract money from.

Whatever happened to helping people and giving good value? :confused:
I always thought that was the best way to do business, but what do I know......... It's like they have forgotten who they are and now only see $$ signs.

As my own business grows, I will have to keep this in mind. I don't ever want to forget that helping others comes first. Well, it seems to have worked well for Oprah, anyway LOL
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OK...59 ASM emails and counting. Bonuses over 6000.00; iPads; emergency webinars. Warms my heart to see how much they care.

Someone mentioned a certain guru being involved...maybe hired to dress up AMM from last year and trot it out again?
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SheraLee, I have also had a lot of promos for this offer from different marketers I have respected that's why I thought that this offer has to be legit. I haven't unsubscribed from their list so far as you did, but definitely I cannot trust them anymore. I am glad that I decided to check this forum first before making any decisions, that's what the experience has taught me to do and that saved me a lot of money.

And I agree with you that there should be the ethics in this business, not greed.

Jim Cockrum also did bring a great points about internet marketing, I appreciate that.
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Hi Lisa

Thanks for the great information. Is your "sourcing the right product" current and up to date? Does it have marketing or seo information on how to promote your product on Amazon and go up the page ranks?
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OK...59 ASM emails and counting. Bonuses over 6000.00; iPads; emergency webinars. Warms my heart to see how much they care.

Someone mentioned a certain guru being involved...maybe hired to dress up AMM from last year and trot it out again?
This would be John Reese.
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I do smell something strange...these guys are funny and its just plain ridiculous already. Kind of insulting. I received another email about a ipad thrown in too from a "well respected" IM to spice up the deal. Hey throw me a new Benz while your at it. Just leave the ipad inside and I'll consider it. :p

If the product was so "amazing" shouldn't it speak for itself?? How hard do you really have to sell it?? This is way past the point of good ol fashion selling through value and has now transformed into desperation like others have mentioned. Reputation crushed by GREED. Some will recognize this act and learn but unfortunately some will not.
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The ASM promo email I received from John Reese was just a link, without even a hint of a bonus as far as I could see. ( Not that I'm too bothered about bonuses as they usually just divert your attention )
I also received ASM promos from other respected IMers, who were convinced it was the best path to follow. ( the 50% commission aside).
Having been tipped off about ASM by people whose views I had respected up to that point, I had a look and was impressed.
All I then needed to do was check out the WF. Well, I reckon there is enough info in this thread alone to get you going.
Certainly saved me some money.
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Here is what I know...I purchased the course they came out with last year that they sold for $1k...was it worth $1k? Certainly not! I guess if you were complete newbie it would be helpful but still i think it was overpriced.
I did too, and refunded. Wrote about it on WF.


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With this said, here is my recommendation. If you don't know much about FBA, where to find inventory, how to sell, etc, check out Jim Cockrum's course.
Jim Cockrum's course is great. The only downside is he focuses on a retail arbitrage process and that can be difficult to scale and sustain, and for some people it's just not doable. However, all the basic building blocks are there. Where Amazing Selling Machine improves is by focusing on manufacturing, branding and marketing. Or private labeling, branding and marketing. But you don't need the course to do that. However, you do need to understand how to purchase from manufacturers and/or distributors, the basics of branding and product promotion and marketing.

The easiest way to start, though, is regular purchasing just to get a feel for what is involved. I don't think it makes sense for someone who has never done it to invest in private label products off the bat. IMO, you need a little experience working with the system and dealing with the kinks, possibly getting UPC exemptions or special category approval and that can take time.


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The training seemed more along the lines of Ebay sellers now selling on Amazon FBA instead. Overall the course seems like good information but was looking for the info about automating the supply process and never having to box/ship my own stuff.
Agreed. However, if someone is new to selling on Amazon, this probably has the best value for getting started even if you cannot or will not follow the process.

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I think the most noticeable difference between the two is the new one is all about private labeling with wider profit margins rather than the former one which was dropshipping?
YES! The first one skipped over FBA which was vital to really making Amazon work. This one goes into private labeling, which just makes them seem like they intentionally hold back good stuff because how could they have launched that course last year and NOT have gone into detail about FBA or private labeling? It's not like that just NOW became a competitive advantage.

They also seem to have software tools that are rolled in, which give the impression that they are spammy backlinking tools that they are throwing at Amazon because it's really hard to have a negative SEO effect on Amazon.

Having said that, all the information above is freely available.


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Amazon is also very strict with their rules. Ignore the policies and it's easy to end up with a suspended/cancelled account.
And breaking amazon rules can even mean not doing something bad. For instance, not submitting data feeds to your sandbox account. Ask me how I know. Account cancelled for months, inventory sitting in the warehouse. You have to be able to deal with the unexpected whenever you're in an inventory based business/


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Of course liability insurance could be considered. However I wonder how expensive a policy would be for a small seller
once you explained to the insurance company that you intended to purchase unknown products and advertise them as your companies
personal products?
Once your business gets to a certain point, you should have liability insurance just because. Importing from China means fewer insurers will cover you, and at a higher cost, but it is affordable, and there are specialized insurers for niches that commonly import, to help prevent overpaying for a policy. It's great selling online without some of the traditional business risks, but you can't escape everything all the time and sometimes you just have to suck it up and protect yourself and your business. In my personal experience without the importing the liability policy can be acquired for around $500, with the importing, around $1500-3000 (or more, depending, and that's for a low risk category).

And also, that would mean there are categories you want to avoid if you want to reduce your liability. For example, I won't touch items that plug into sockets. Don't want the liability.

This is not specific to Amazon, because I acquired my liability insurance for other reasons, prior to selling on Amazon. It's great solely selling online with very few requirements, but when you want to get into other opportunities these things are required (for example, selling wholesale TO retailers) so it's nothing that someone should be afraid of if they intend to build a sustainable and thriving business.


But going back to the topic:

$3500 is a lot of money and you could probably pay a really really smart college kid to research everything about selling on amazon, write a custom report and buy more training material and still come out less expensive than that. I look at is what I learned worth what i paid and with this one, I'm not sure. With their last launch, it was not worth $997 (even though their software was fantastic it was missing critical features), and there's no reason to believe this one is any different.

One last thing about selling on Amazon

You need to have money to get started. Amazon pays out twice a month. It takes 3-4 days to hit your bank account. If you wait for your deposit to re-order/stock up, it's around 2-3 weeks to get things over to fulfillment and into your inventory. Therefore, you need to be able to purchase at least 30 days of inventory to really make it through otherwise you're dropping momentum with stock outs. I don't feel they are entirely clear with that. Yes you get paid like clockwork, however, if your inventory is getting low, you need to be able to re-order without waiting for a disbursement because Amazon's inbound fulfillment (getting your items into their inventory system) is just not the fastest thing.
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If it sounds too good to be true then it is. Take a look at Scamworld: 'Get rich quick' mutates into an unstoppable monster


I will not tell you whose face you will see if you watch the video, but you can probably guess. I will add some of these people have taken my money and I have nothing to show for it except a receipt. Wouldn't that be an interesting product!
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I don't have a lot of posts, but I wanted to add my humble two cents this time.

During this whole fiasco, I've unsubscribed from 98% of email marketers. Why? I've learned to discern.

This is a relatively new product, right? Are you sure your own promoter has completed the program?

Many are complaining about the two guys in the program, but they have at least done it and are making the money.

Shouldn't we be more concerned about the integrity of the JV partnerships so prevalent in the IM marketplace and our "guru friends" promoting programs without having tried them?

I've done amazon FBA.. yes, it works, and yes, it even works to the tune of those two guys if you know what to do. But why are all these people promoting this when they've NEVER done it? This is what we need to ask of ourselves first... the promoters are the "best in the industry" and they haven't done it, so why are they telling YOU & ME to give it a go... for $3,500???

It's probably a good program (as I was able to make good money without the program) but that isn't the point!

Feel a bit sad about this whole thing.


Note: This is not to say that anyone is bad. But when I recommend something as little as a $2 cup of coffee, I do so after I've tried and only when I absolutely love it. Don't you? The same promoters will ironically sell you on "reputation management" next week!
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Hi Everyone,

I listened to the webinar last night on the Amazing (Amazon) Selling Machine and was tempted to buy in myself, but as with most things, it's better to take time out, do some due diligence and think rationally - before parting with $3497.00!!

Thanks to all of you for your valuable comments, which convinced me to save my money and not invest in this overpriced hype.

I must admit that I found the webinar to be quite informative and eye opening, having been an affiliate marketer for 14 years. At last, products are back and I can definitely see the potential of FBA....as long as you have the right product.

I asked some questions in the webinar itself - most of which were ignored.

I would like to know..

Which categories do they find most profitable?

They contended that you could find something which is popular and have it made for you and brand it yourself. So that prompted me to ask about trademark issues. Also people buy products by brand, because of trust which is earned. If you check most categories in Amazon, you will see that most of the best sellers are branded products like Brita, Philips, Morphy Richards, etc etc. How do we compete against global players like these?

I also found the 30 day guarantee period to be strange as well. Surely this is not long enough to evaluate such an expensive program extending over 8 weeks and not one month?

I also requested details about the software, but none were given.

So all in all, I still have many more questions before I would even consider parting with $3497.00 and after what I have read here, that is not going to happen. I can certainly see the potential of Amazon FBA and am sure there is lots of money to be made. I, like others here would be willing to part with $500.00 for this information.

In case anyone is wondering why this "opportunity" is so expensive, you only have to go over to the JV page to see why! This shocked me!

Amazing Selling Machine JV Center

PRIZES (in addition to the 40-50% commission)

$50,000 CASH + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event (All Expenses Paid)
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$8,000 or 7-Day All Expenses Paid China Mastermind/Product Sourcing Trip in July + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event
$5,000 or iPad-Controlled Massage Chair + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event
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$1,400 or MacBook Air 13″ + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event
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$700 or iPad with Retina Display (128GB) + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event
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Oh to be a guru! :-)

As the JV page urges....grab your links and letís crush it! (Not with my money they won't).

Cheers

Peter
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Every WSO that I bought in my life was my fault and so was everything else.
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Also people buy products by brand, because of trust which is earned. If you check most categories in Amazon, you will see that most of the best sellers are branded products like Brita, Philips, Morphy Richards, etc etc. How do we compete against global players like these?
It's easier to compete in categories where there's more brand diversification. You have to think: in what areas are people more likely to try a niche or unknown brand? In certain categories niche brands make up a sizable portion of the market share.

Or in what categories will people give a chance to a less expensive alternative? Me personally (Philips) I have shelled out enough money on Sonicare and Clarisonic that I'd roll the dice on a less expensive competitor, if it was just as good.

There are also categories where big brands don't dominate because the market is too small for them, but still big enough for a smaller company.

This is where I think having general business experience really helps. if all you're into is internet marketing, you can develop tunnel vision. Go to a few trade shows for products and broaden your scope.
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