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Unread 15th March 2013, 10:17 AM   #101
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so they did a webinar and still no software demo? wow..
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I'm humbled and honored by that. Seriously.

If I ever do anything to lose that trust please kick my butt. I pledge to keep on earning your trust every day.

My approach is simple - I don't promote launches or fads. I grow my own business, and if something legit and sustainable is working for me THEN I tell my friends about it & charge a fair price to train those who want training. This way I can hire good people & pay my staff well to train those who want it - all the while we run my businesses DOING what we teach BEFORE we teach it. It's really not complicated to do the right thing.

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What I mean is this whole thread turned out to be something different.

And if anyone is into offline, that's what Jim teaches day in and day out... take action. Please don't be fearful, thinking you cannot do, because you really can. Guys, I got my first $3,500 set-up client with $597 for 2 years and the two years is up now.

If Jim teaches you anything, he's genuine while most are not!!! But with or without him, please do it. No WSO will EVER do it for you, $7 or $4,000.- what I'm saying is if you want to leave it to a chance, your chance is better with him than anyone else... Just saying...
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Hi Jim, I bought your Proven Amazon Course yesterday and am almost through the Silent Sales Machine book already. I echo the same sentiments. I am very impressed with your sound techniques and integrity and I'm very excited about your course. Thanks, Joe

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I'm humbled and honored by that. Seriously.

If I ever do anything to lose that trust please kick my butt. I pledge to keep on earning your trust every day.

My approach is simple - I don't promote launches or fads. I grow my own business, and if something legit and sustainable is working for me THEN I tell my friends about it & charge a fair price to train those who want training. This way I can hire good people & pay my staff well to train those who want it - all the while we run my businesses DOING what we teach BEFORE we teach it. It's really not complicated to do the right thing.
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Having been interested in getting started with physical products/ecommerce for some time I have watched the promo materials with interest. I have no doubt that white labeling products to sell on Amazon is a viable business model although there are clearly challenges as with any business enterprise - in particular it seems critical to me that you learn how to boost a product ranking within Amazon itself as well as understanding wholesaling, working with suppliers and everything that goes with it. Not forgetting the legal stuff.

As far as the pricing of this product is concerned, I understand the course comes with 2 years access to some of JKs existing products (or something similar) such as Traffic Kaboom (which is currently closed), PR Kaboom and a couple of other tools. The theory being that you use these to drive additional traffic to your Amazon products.

I think Traffic Kaboom was around $100 a month and PR Kaboom is currently $97 a month so 2 years of access to both actually cost in the order of $4800.

How essential they are to make this business model work I cannot judge. I would be disappointed (naive?) to discover they have been included in order to justify the hefty price tag if they dont really add much value to this model.
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I will say though that Rusty Moore above recommending this Amazing Selling Machine product was interesting as he doesn't recommend much (if anything) and even told his list(which is one of the few I am on) that he isn't going to email his list anymore as he doesn't care for recommending IM products to people and would rather focus on his own business. He very easily could just keep recommending the latest and greatest products but doesn't want to.
1lov1,

Yeah...I'm not promoting this one either...I'm just pretty jazzed about the course.

Just thought I would come in here and make a counterpoint. I knew as soon as the priced was announced, that things would get a bit nutty on the Warrior Forum.

I don't make my income promoting I.M. products, I think in the past 3 years I've promoted Andre Chaperon's courses, Cover Social Press, and Profits Theme.

This Amazon product isn't for everyone, that is for sure.

...but for someone who makes at least a decent income online & wants to work in a community of people learning how to sell private label on Amazon...this is a great product.

I don't want to talk anyone into purchasing this.

I just don't believe it is fair to call it a scam.

Expensive (yes)...but that doesn't make it a scam.

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Andre is very quiet just like Jim Cockram. And I respect them the most. I haven't gone through the whole course but they're about being good people, not quick IM people.

I've done my share of comments for 3 (or seven, LOL!) years now.
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Yes, it's a lot of money, but.. in the defense of ASM, I said... no actually, to say you and I need to take action, I said:

Who was the the course for? Hopefully, it was to help people like you and me find quick and better answers to take care of our family, but how did we treat it (because we couldn't afford it.. maybe)? Another shiny object at a department of addicts (like down the old 42nd street where I used to take the bus to Jersey).

Guys, $4,000 course is not bad, even $40,000 course is awesome if you focus NOW! Why are you hanging out here whining? Go get clients! The $7 WSO you bought 2 days ago is just as good!

If and when you can put a course together for $3,500, let me know and I'll buy. Let's all wake up, okay? Many Loves!

Now, I've really "used" up my posts.

Why does everything I say sound "not-so-right"... no wonder I have less than 30 posts!
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There are programs out there that help with sourcing, and feedback and such on amazon and fba. If you subscribe/useo a couple good ones you are spending $100-200 per month right there. 200*24 = $4800. I do believe Matt will be offering programs that will pretty much make those programs useless as you'll have his programs to use. That in itself makes it worth it.
I'm a member of the previous iteration of Matt's program, so if you have questions PM me before you take the big leap.
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Oh f***k, there there goes my final post.

Yes, it's expensive. Yes, I would NEVER buy it... actually not sure if I'd even take it for free (I'm busy too).

Who do I respect the most? Yes Jim Cockram and (the email King) Andrew (two people who hardly ever promote).


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Just received an email saying from Jason & Matt that there's a "behind the scenes video" which is just a replay of a 2 hour webinar... LOL
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Hi Lisa

Thanks for the great information. Is your "sourcing the right product" current and up to date? Does it have marketing or seo information on how to promote your product on Amazon and go up the page ranks?
Hi Maria,
Thanks for asking.

Yes, the core Sourcing the RIGHT Products Wholesale to sell on Amazon course is all current material. The core course is 10 hours+ of step-by-step materials and I designed it so that people can start with the fundamentals and used the advanced materials as their business/skills grow.

I periodically add updates on new ways to do market research, as well as consumer trends (in fact, I'm in the process of adding some new videos now). All students get the updates included.

Students also have lifetime access to the course and all updates. I also do a monthly Q&A coaching call so that students can get their specific questions answered about sourcing products for their Amazon sales channel.

This course is strictly focused on wholesale sourcing, different ways to do market research to determine what products to source for Amazon, as well as how to spot pockets of opportunity, and consumer trends.

We don't cover any Amazon product page optimization or marketing in the course or nuts and bolts of Amazon selling. (Sourcing is such a big topic, I wanted to really keep the course focused on this core skill.)

I do teach marketing strategies for Amazon separately in my Strategic Biz Marketing program.

That being said, if our sourcing students ask a marketing question on one of our sourcing calls, I answer them.

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Sorry if this is a dumb question...

Which product are you talking about here?...

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Thanks for asking.

Yes, the core Sourcing the RIGHT Products Wholesale to sell on Amazon course is all current material. The core course is 10 hours+ of step-by-step materials and I designed it so that people can start with the fundamentals and used the advanced materials as their business/skills grow.

I periodically add updates on new ways to do market research, as well as consumer trends (in fact, I'm in the process of adding some new videos now). All students get the updates included.

Students also have lifetime access to the course and all updates. I also do a monthly Q&A coaching call so that students can get their specific questions answered about sourcing products for their Amazon sales channel.

This course is strictly focused on wholesale sourcing, different ways to do market research to determine what products to source for Amazon, as well as how to spot pockets of opportunity, and consumer trends.

We don't cover any Amazon product page optimization or marketing in the course or nuts and bolts of Amazon selling. (Sourcing is such a big topic, I wanted to really keep the course focused on this core skill.)

I do teach marketing strategies for Amazon separately in my Strategic Biz Marketing program.

That being said, if our sourcing students ask a marketing question on one of our sourcing calls, I answer them.

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Sorry if this is a dumb question...

Which product are you talking about here?...
Hi Tim,
This is an ecommerce course that I teach on wholesale sourcing specifically desgined for 3rd party merchants selling in the Amazon marketplace.

(I've been working with online merchants who sell on Amazon, eBay, or an ecommerce website, since 2004.)

Not sure if it's OK to post a link, but you can find out more about me at Lisa Suttora DOT com.

The information about the sourcing course is at Lisa Suttora DOT com/amazonsourcing (or just click the products tab).

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Hi Tim,
This is an ecommerce course that I teach on wholesale sourcing specifically desgined for 3rd party merchants selling in the Amazon marketplace.

(I've been working with online merchants who sell on Amazon, eBay, or an ecommerce website, since 2004.)

Not sure if it's OK to post a link, but you can find out more about me at Lisa Suttora DOT com.

The information about the sourcing course is at Lisa Suttora DOT com/amazonsourcing (or just click the products tab).

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Thanks -- the reason I asked is because I see the AMM + that other ebook being discussed here -- so yours is a 3rd option then.

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(I've been working with online merchants who sell on Amazon, eBay, or an ecommerce website, since 2004.)
Lisa has a great reputation and has been a creative source of reliable information for years in the eBay/Amazon sourcing niche and many others. Glad to see her chime in here!
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Great thread! Thank you everyone for all of the input.

I have been trying to decide if I should buy the course since it does have a 30 day money back guarantee. So really not much to risk especially if the info proves to be valuable.

However, I did have a concern that the course is an 8 week course. Does this mean it can only be accessed as they release it? I really don't like that. I would rather be able to see the course in its entirety and work it at my own pace.

I just spoke to their support staff and they said "Yes, it can only be accessed as we release the modules per week"

I really don't like that set up.

Can anyone tell me how Jim Cockrum's Proven Amazon Course is set up? Does it provide the same type of info and does it offer software to help run the business?

Thank you for the feedback!
Thanks for that info, Scott. I've been down that road before, and I'd swear that they had degrees in psychology to know just the precise amount of information/training to provide before the refund date. Curiosity and those dollar signs dancing in your head, plus if the training was effectively given to that point - well, it all makes it a very difficult decision. (My decision truly backfired once.) I wouldn't be surprised if you continually hear that 'that's coming later in the course'.

I was on a webinar with them 3/14/13. They had written that it was to be about the great software we would be using, and once it got started they mentioned 7 softwares, but then went on to only (sort of) cover, I'm pretty sure - 3 of them. I kept asking what about the other software, but they were having too much FUN giving away Amazon gift certificates. If you'd like to Hear & Watch how Honest they are, this is a link to the very same webinar, I believe. No way I'm going to watch it again to verify Webinar Replay | The Amazing Selling Machine
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they aren't - but it certainly did take up a great deal of the webinar time in two different spots. I've purchased from Jason Katzenback (w/Jason Potash) before and he did excellent video tutorials and I believe he has a very good reputation. I do not know Matt Clark.

But, is that what's happening lately? Like Jon Shugart / Mailer Millionaire?
That's another thread that I just haven't had the oomph to comment on yet. Maybe I will if I hear that they reopen.

Take care all...

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...The information about the sourcing course is at Lisa Suttora DOT com/amazonsourcing (or just click the products tab).

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Hi Lisa

do you have a coupon code for your course?

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Of course there are many marketers who are searching for that
"hands Free", check into Starbucks a few days a week and see
how my magic business is running, type of business.

The course being discussed here may be it. But my thoughts, run
along the lines of an Amazon business where you have to do some
work just like any other "real business", learn how to purchase
good product and market it on Amazon.

$3500, if used to purchase product to resell and a few courses
from folks like Jim Cockrum, Lisa Suttora, Skip McGrath and a
few others, along with a litle Google searching and some honest
study, could be the basis of an honest to goodness Amazon
business.

I am just an old guy in my 70s how would I know anything about
any of this? Well as I write this post I am sitting in a motel
in Ocala, Fla. Been here for a few days and came here from
Jacksonville, Fla, where my wife and I spent 7 days.

We are from Michigan and if you check the weather reports from
Mi and Fla it will be easy to figure out why we are here. Our poor
Ford Escape is loaded to the roof with product we have purchased
from thrift stores in the last 10 days.

(We made a mistake on this trip. We usually carry the printers
and other stuff needed to send products off to Amazon from
where ever we happen to be. That way the stuff gets to the
Amazon warehouse and starts to earn for us while we are
still enjoying our travels. We did not do that this trip).

Those products, which allow us to travel where ever and whenever
we choose, were purchased with a little labor and lots of
knowledge gained from the folks I mentioned above who I still
listen to and gladly continue to purchase their training and
advice.

Although we have been selling on eBay and Amazon for over 10 years
the real change in our lives began last April when we began using
the Amazon FBA system. My goal in the last few years has been to
build a sustainable business that would allow my wife to live
comfortably if I should pass away before her.

I did Amazon affiliate marketing for a number of years but came to
realize that keeping up with all the Google changes and other work
necessary to maintain a series of those types of sites would not be
possible for her.

Amazon FBA on the other hand is the answer. She could grab a sister
or one of our grown children or even a grandchild and continue on
with this business. I try not to remind her of this too often in
case she decided that if somehow I was gone a little earlier her
life might be even more enjoyable.

While this business model is allowing us to really enjoy life,
(stopped at a country gift shop in the middle of nowhere yesterday,
nothing but a four corner type of location, and bought a bunch of
CDs and Pez dispensers to send off to Amazon), our age and health
will not allow us to travel forever.

That's why I continue to purchase training products and follow the
advice from the trusted folks I mentioned above to gain the
knowledge of wholesale purchase so we can expand our business when
our bodies began to remind us that we ain't in our 50s any longer.

If I was 20 years younger the ideas that the guys selling the course
that began this thread in the first place might appeal to me. However
when you began to realize that you no long have the time to experiment
and try new things it is comforting to know there is a business model
that has been successful and will most likely continue to be
successful for many years. And being enjoyable doe's not hurt either.

Sorry for taking up so much space but I thought it might be helpful to
some to know that the Amazon system can in fact work. There will always
be those forward thinkers who devise methods to improve on it and these
two guys may have done just that. I on the other hand am living a great
life based on old fashioned principles of business, old fashioned in
internet years, that just seem to keep working.

What ever system any of you choose to practice I wish you the same
success.

Chet Hastings
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A million thanks Chet for your honest and insightful viewpoint.
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do you have a coupon code for your course?

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Hi Chris,
I don't have a coupon at this time. The cost course of the full course, including the monthly Q&A calls (and all additional materials) is $197.

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Lisa has a great reputation and has been a creative source of reliable information for years in the eBay/Amazon sourcing niche and many others. Glad to see her chime in here!
Thanks Jim! I appreciate it.

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I don't have a coupon at this time. The cost course of the full course, including the monthly Q&A calls (and all additional materials) is $197.

-Lisa
Hi Lisa, I opened a ticket at your support center...I'll be picking up your course. I'm confident this and Jim's course is more than sufficient information for me to thrive on Amazon...and eBay.
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I received a private message from this gentleman and am posting his question and answer here. I won't answer any more questions in the thread because I am taking the thread away from it's original intent. But if the information I provided for Sajid helps him maybe it will help others also.

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Dear Mr. Chet,

I am impressed by your posts that you have on Amazon FBA and also you recommend highly Jim for his Amazon Proven Course. If you don't mind, would you let me know, if his course offers FBA and how to select products? What criteria do you use to select products? I hope my questions don't sound too stupid.
If we really do full time, do you think, we can replace day job? I am sure you may have answered and also, if you like, you can make a public reply so that everybody can know too.

Sajid
Hi Sajid. Yes Jim's PAC course is all about Amazon and FBA. I purchased his course just about 2 months ago even though I have been selling on Amazon for years but selling through FBA just since last April.

I have purchased other courses from him and for a number of years belonged to his paid membership.

I currently belong to Lisa's paid membership and have purchased a number of books from Skip McGrath including his wholesale buying guide just recently. I buy from others also and although a lot of material I get I already know and use I always seem to pick up one of two good tips that I was not familiar with and would never have known to search for them without purchasing various products.

My belief is that in any business you need to keep learning to keep growing. So I am happy to invest a portion of my Amazon earnings in new and updated courses and books.

My criteria for purchasing any product on Amazon basically is to try to buy products that I can list for 3 times the price I pay for it. Because Amazon takes about 40 percent of any sale using this method guarantees I can make a profit.

About replacing your full time job, yes I think it is possible but it will take a while and some investment. Don't believe the claims you see that state you can invest $100 and make a full time living on Amazon. It will take much more than that.

I also believe that to find good products at a good price you will need some tools. I use a couple of barcode scanners to find my products and so do almost every other serious Amazon seller.

I think if you are just starting out and if you want to get a good start you will need to spend a few hundred dollars on good solid Amazon training courses, join a few good free forums. One of the best in my opinion is the FBA forum on Yahoo groups.

Sign up for Skip; McGraths newsletter and also Jims and LIsa's. The more you know before you start the better your chances of success.

Please don't make the mistake of using your credit card to run out and buy a lot of product to sell on Amazon before you learn how to pick good selling products based on seller competition, price, product ranking and other variables.

Many of the ridiculous low prices you find on Amazon are from sellers who spend a ton of money and then when they don't get sales they beginning lowballing their prices to get their money back.

Amazon is different than eBay and you will be dealing with a different class of buyers. Learn all you can before making expensive product purchases. Many Amazon sellers start out with stuff from their own home or with books because they can be purchased for pennies and sold at very good markups. Amazon can be started very easily and inexpensively.

There are folks who can give you much better answers that I can. I only posted in this thread originally to give a different perspective to Amazon selling and the course the thread represented.

I am posting your question because of the way you asked your question but I do not want to distract from the original thread or try to pass myself off as some kind of expert which I am not.

Learn a lot, spend a little and over time I believe you can do very well. As you asked I will post your question and my answer in the thread.

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You get the Hero of the day award. That is a fantastic video link.


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If it sounds too good to be true then it is. Take a look at Scamworld: 'Get rich quick' mutates into an unstoppable monster

Scamworld: 'Get rich quick' mutates into an unstoppable monster - YouTube

I will not tell you whose face you will see if you watch the video, but you can probably guess. I will add some of these people have taken my money and I have nothing to show for it except a receipt. Wouldn't that be an interesting product!
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This Amazon product isn't for everyone, that is for sure.

...but for someone who makes at least a decent income online & wants to work in a community of people learning how to sell private label on Amazon...this is a great product.

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Rusty is right on.

If you want to learn how to "manufacture your own" or white label products and sell them through Amazon FBA, this is the course - and for that business model, it does not appear to be priced too badly.

If you want to learn how to sell all kinds of existing products (found at retail stores and other local buying outlets) on Amazon using FBA, then Jim Cockrum's Proven Amazon Course (PAC) fits the bill to a T.

It's a matter of which business model you are able to do right now and are ready and able to do right now.

Unfortunately, there will be a lot of people who bought the former course (ASM) that should've bought the latter course. (PAC)

I'm just glad to see that this is opening a lot of eyes toward the more realistic business models of selling physical products via ecommerce, (eBay / Amazon) which never really went away...

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If you want to learn how to "manufacture your own" or white label products and sell them through Amazon FBA, this is the course - and for that business model, it does not appear to be priced too badly.


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Thanks for the vote of support Dave!

For the public record though -the PAC course has (and is adding more soon) content re: creating "white label", bundles, your own bar codes etc.

The PAC course is a living, growing course that gains new content continually as successful students are tapped to teach the rest of us what they are doing that's working.
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I stand corrected, Jim - thanks for reminding me about the bundle concepts and the bar code examples - good stuff! And I like that it is constantly being updated and added-to.

Even though I'm known as an eBay expert, I actually started selling on Amazon (and Yahoo) back in 2000, when they offered online auctions right alongside eBay...

But once I really dug into the Proven Amazon Course, and saw some of the Amazon FBA success stories that Jim Cockrum highlighted, I realized that it's now time to take my product-sourcing knowledge and apply it to Amazon FBA.

And, although I will always do eBay because it's an awesome source of buyer traffic, (especially for high-demand products, which is my niche) this Amazon FBA thing is a whole 'nother animal that allows for scaling your business FAST. (like nothing I've seen so far)

It's very exciting!

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So they have posted a live webinar (now replay) Talking about the software and Q&A about the new program.

Check it out @ Amazon Selling Machine (Not an affiliate link)

I think it is very promising!

Also, last day to signup.
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I've signed up for tha 4 x $997 payment plan today.

Why?

The Pre Sales Material was very high quality and I'm curious to see, if they can stand up to their promises.

The 30 Day Refund period starts with the first seminar on 03/21/2013.
From there I can watch 4 Modules and decide if I want to continue or take a refund.
The questions that I have should be answered in Week 1 and Week 2.

I've signed up to their Userforum and so have done 657 others already.
That's a pretty impressive number.
I've read a few of the Introductions and I must say I'm also very impressed with the Quality of the Users too.

There are a lot of offline Business Owners (like me) who wants to get a foot into the Online selling of Physical Products.

Will update this thread how it goes.
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I am a contributor to Jim Cockrum's PAC course.

I also was approved to be a JV for the AmazingSellingMachine course (which I refused to sell, even though I have a list of 3,000+ tuned-in Amazon/ebay merchants and I could have made a small fortune from them).

If you're interested, I did a full review here (there is not an affiliate link to that Selling Machines course in there, as I said I refused to sell it): You'll see why I didn't recommend it (the high price tag wasn't the only reason).

Jim's PAC course (http://ProvenAmazonCourse.com) is legit (and I'm one of his sometimes-critics, too. I'm also an affiliate of that course, but that's not my affiliate link.)

Also legit (and $249) is the premium membership at http://itsdewable.com (that's not my affiliate link, even though I am an affiliate of that course too).

-Jordan Malik

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I am a contributor to Jim Cockrum's PAC course.

I also was approved to be a JV for the AmazingSellingMachine course (which I refused to sell, even though I have a list of 3,000+ tuned-in Amazon/ebay merchants and I could have made a small fortune from them).

If you're interested, I did a full review here (there is not an affiliate link to that Selling Machines course in there, as I said I refused to sell it): Don't Do This (From Jordan) - YouTube
You'll see why I didn't recommend it (the high price tag wasn't the only reason).

Jim's PAC course (Proven Amazon Course - brought to you by Jim Cockrum of MySilentTeam.com) is legit (and I'm one of his sometimes-critics, too. I'm also an affiliate of that course, but that's not my affiliate link.)

Also legit (and $249) is the premium membership at http://itsdewable.com (that's not my affiliate link, even though I am an affiliate of that course too).

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I have never head of the Dewable course. Is it any good? Do they show you how to private label products?
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They do not show you how to private label products. It is an excellent course, it teaches you exactly how to sell on Amazon, exactly how to source items online, and exactly how to automate (outsource) the grunt work so you can maximize your time.

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I looked at PAC but I am not impressed because they are all theories, all talking on videos, no step by step process, sorry to say, way overpriced for $347 or $99. But I am impressed on the information of free PDF of Amazon Selling Machine because it's like you do it step by step. I can do things "step by step" and get bored quickly with just watching videos full of talks.

I like Amazon Selling Machine but way overpriced as well for $3,497, I cannot afford.

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Wow! I'm shocked with the $3500 price tag. I really wanted to do this but I'm priced out. Plus I'm getting hit with a 34% cut in take home pay in about 3 weeks because of the sequestration budget battle by the clowns in Washington. With a family of 5 and a price tag of $3500 there's no way.

Earlier in this thread Jim Cockrum's Proven Amazon Course (PAC). Price - $347.00 one time payment. was mentioned and I looked into it a little. Can anyone out there recommend if this is a good one or not or has tried it? Thanks.
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I have never head of the Dewable course. Is it any good? Do they show you how to private label products?
You can ask directly the wholesale supplier if they can put your own brand or "Private Label" on the product. That's what I did when I asked one and they said yes depending on the quantity I will order.
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I am a contributor to Jim Cockrum's PAC course.

I also was approved to be a JV for the AmazingSellingMachine course (which I refused to sell, even though I have a list of 3,000+ tuned-in Amazon/ebay merchants and I could have made a small fortune from them).

If you're interested, I did a full review here (there is not an affiliate link to that Selling Machines course in there, as I said I refused to sell it): Don't Do This (From Jordan) - YouTube
You'll see why I didn't recommend it (the high price tag wasn't the only reason).

Jim's PAC course (Proven Amazon Course - brought to you by Jim Cockrum of MySilentTeam.com) is legit (and I'm one of his sometimes-critics, too. I'm also an affiliate of that course, but that's not my affiliate link.)

Also legit (and $249) is the premium membership at http://itsdewable.com (that's not my affiliate link, even though I am an affiliate of that course too).

-Jordan Malik
Hey Jordan,

Just wanted to point out the website of Debra & Beth is actually thriftingforprofit.com, not thriftprofit.com you mentioned in your video.

Sorry, just thought I would correct you as these ladies have a lot of good
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What set my alarm bells of was that Jason claims to have only been selling on Amazon since October 2012 yet the previous course they did was out before this........

Maybe he was only involved in a marketing capacity before but still seems a little dodgy.

Fwiw I saw the live webinar just a couple of hours ago per an email heads-up by way of being on Eben Pagan's (who filled in for Matt during the webinar) mailing list.

I didn't know there'd been a previous course but even so there were a few curious statements made during the presentation that sounded alerts for me as well, for example a few times the speaker Jason anticipated objections so he could dispel them and once, bringing up the question of why, if private labeling of goods is such a great idea, isn't Amazon doing it themselves? "Because it's not their business model," he said, and "Big companies like this don't want to deal with a bunch of small clients [blah blah etc] like that."

But Amazon has been private labeling goods themselves for at least 5 years and here's the Sept 2009 article from BusinessInsider I was reminded of:

10 Amazon Private-Label Products You Didn't Know Existed

They'd already been doing it with some goods for 2 years at the time of that story. (Of course [wink] this just proves what a great idea it is! --though none of that actually came up in the webinar.)

He also addressed the possible (ie probable) objection as to 'if this is making so much money for you guys, why are you revealing the method in the form of a course like this?' and said the key, in addition to the "fact" that this is something that can never be saturated [ha ha], is in the "mastermind group" that will form to benefit everybody by the sharing around of experiences and insights etc & so on ie the old "two heads are better than one" principle. On the other hand one might wonder if "too many cooks spoil the broth" doesn't turn out to be the moral of this story?

As always, it's generally a good practice to keep your Google box open during a webinar pitch and I did find that just about everything, except the mystery tracking, eg, software paying customers get access to for a 2 year period, can be had for free with a little search diligence and a few phone calls, but that was another of the objections he anticipated by pointing out that even if you can find the info via search and figure out how to implement it, there's no way you could make up for the time they save you by having gone through all the trial & error for you, PLUS investing the $175,000 they did to pay the programmers &etc to ensure you're getting topnotch stuff.

Personally I would (and will) gladly forego the $3497 (or 4 monthly $997 installments) cost of the course and learn the ins & outs of a method like this in a thorough, more grounded, imo, way by my own trial & error than shell out those kinda bucks for something that raises so many red alerts from the get-go...despite the fact that he emphasized more than once that you can crank up the big money juices almost literally from Day 1 by using the info in this course and get paid in 14 days, or whatever the exact period is, rather than put your time & effort into something like, say, Kindle books where you don't get your first check for 60 days.

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I looked at PAC but I am not impressed because they are all theories, all talking on videos, no step by step process, sorry to say, way overpriced for $347 or $99. But I am impressed on the information of free PDF of Amazon Selling Machine because it's like you do it step by step. I can do things "step by step" and get bored quickly with just watching videos full of talks.

I like Amazon Selling Machine but way overpriced as well for $3,497, I cannot afford.
That is exactly what I was thinking.
The Pac Course is good, but could need a fresh up. The Information there is not that clearly laid out as it is in the ASM PDFs.
The ASM Videos and PDFs make it very clear what the big picture is and how this business work.

After all it all comes down to one question:
"Where do I find hot in demand Products that can be Private Labeled and offer a huge margin?"

If that question is answered, the rest will come natural:
Do some SEO
Write a Press Release
Do some Backlinking (SEnuke)
Create a Video
Get Reviews
Write a good Product Sales Page

That's all basic Internet Marketers stuff that most of us do every day.

My main Problem is and thats what I read out of the forum for the most people there is "Finding my HOT HOT Private Label Product".
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Im suprised no-one is commenting on the real story here...

The reason ASM is so expensive is the software which automates all your seo, backlinks, press releases e.t.c. to promote the product listing. This backend software is plugged right into your account.

This means you are paying ASM for the training/software, but in return they have complete access to see what you are doing, your listings, your failures, what products rank and for what keywords e.t.c

They have all your data and everyone elses in the program. When the hype has died down you can be assured they will use this data to rank their own new products. It will be a goldmine for them.
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Thanks, Yohan, for your input and yes, you are of course right. I don't really have a problem with that though because all marketers are doing that sort of research the whole time if they have the know-how ...aren't we?!! I don't begrudge them that because I do trust that they are basically 'ethical' guys and whatever they are learning I think will mostly be funnelled back into the strategies that they will be sharing with us.

I bought their program last year and although it was very good I just did not have the ability to implement it then. Hopefully this time around I will be able to

I know Jason from buying a product of his several years ago and he is a 'good guy' and Matt is definitely a brilliant entrepreneur
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Im suprised no-one is commenting on the real story here...

The reason ASM is so expensive is the software which automates all your seo, backlinks, press releases e.t.c. to promote the product listing. This backend software is plugged right into your account.

This means you are paying ASM for the training/software, but in return they have complete access to see what you are doing, your listings, your failures, what products rank and for what keywords e.t.c

They have all your data and everyone elses in the program. When the hype has died down you can be assured they will use this data to rank their own new products. It will be a goldmine for them.
I pretty much agree with this if what you say about them having all their members data etc is correct. I don't blame anybody for buying this course though as it sounds ok but peronally I would no way spend that kind of money on what really sounds like a lot of hype.

I don't honestly believe that anybody with a real business on Amazon who is raking in the kind of money suggested would spend their time putting a course together like this and give away their secrets to any tom, dick or harry who can afford it. Wouldn't you just escalate what you've been doing if you're making so much money and hope to chr!st that it's a while before the inevitable happens and somebody else discovers your goldmine? But then again I might be completely wrong and wouldn't mind admitting it.
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Thanks for making that point.
I don't think they will do that but I will certainly have an eye on that.

Also after setting up my first money making products I will try to replicate that without using their software.

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The reason ASM is so expensive is the software which automates all your seo, backlinks, press releases e.t.c. to promote the product listing. This backend software is plugged right into your account.

This means you are paying ASM for the training/software, but in return they have complete access to see what you are doing, your listings, your failures, what products rank and for what keywords e.t.c

They have all your data and everyone elses in the program. When the hype has died down you can be assured they will use this data to rank their own new products. It will be a goldmine for them.
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I am not an affiliate for this program and bought into it on Sunday after several days of being on the fence. Here are my reasons why:

1. 30 day refund policy beginning from the first day of training which begins March 21. After asking Jason, the co-creator of the training a question about how long it takes to start selling product, his answer was that if I apply the techniques taught, within 4 weeks I should be selling product daily. If this happens, I should be able to get a realistic picture of what type of monthly net profits to expect from each product and determine if it warrants continuing and the investment of the training. If not, then I am within the 30 days and can get a refund. It would seem that after only 4 weeks, I should have a worst case scenario of what my monthly sales will be, as I should be able to vastly improve my results through more personal experience, adding more products and the advanced trainings during the final 4 weeks.

2. It makes sense to me. I own two brick and mortar businesses in two small towns in Florida, not major cities. Our primary business is personal services but we also sell about $15,000 a month in retail products combined between the two locations. If I am targeting the entire U.S. with my product line instead of two small cities and my current client base, it makes sense that I should be able to make at least twice that per month and not have to pay the overhead I have to pay with my locations such as employee wages, rent, utilities, etc. It will be almost all profit.

3. We carry some private label products in our locations now and the profit margin is much higher on those. With this strategy, we are creating our own brand and don't have to compete with other sellers carrying the same exact brand of product. Of course everything hinges on being able to get the products ranked in Amazon but after 4 weeks of training, I will see if it really does work.

4. I have done some affiliate marketing on the side and the biggest obstacle has always been trying to compete with Amazon. It seems for most products they always come up first. So why not use that leverage and ranking power combined with some basic SEO and keyword research skills to sell my own products on Amazon and dominate the search engine listings. Why should I continue earning only 6% as an Amazon affiliate when I can make 25-50%?

5. I spent over $200,000 per retail location to open my brick and mortar stores. If this works, $3500 is nothing. Any real business you try to start is going to have some type of investment. Yes, there is also the investment of product and even though I already knew this, they recommend starting with a small number of products to test the market first, so you don't go all in with a huge inventory of products that will take you months to sell.

5. I have already used some of the methods that they taught in the initial videos that were free to everyone to identify product opportunities. I used a method that someone else taught me to see how much of that product is being sold daily. If I did half the volume that these products are doing, I will make back the investment in this course within 1 month.

6. Although the doors are officially closed now to new members, I would imagine that once this first group has completed the training, they will open it up to a second round of new members. If the majority of us are not successful, we will certainly post that and it will hinder those who do their due diligence and research from buying in.

As long as they truly honor their 30 day refund policy, it seems as though there is nothing to lose since after 4 weeks, I should be moving product daily if I have implemented the training correctly and can bow out if that doesn't happen.

I can't say I'm not a little nervous dropping such a big chunk on a training program. I am used to buying $10 and $20 WSO's. But I also know that with most programs, people aren't successful because they didn't fully apply themselves or didn't stick with it long enough, if the training program wasn't junk. If they said it would take 60 days or longer to start selling product daily, I would never have purchased it knowing I would be outside of the refund period before I knew if it was successful. And as I mentioned earlier, if it works which it certainly makes sense to me that it will, $3500 is a drop in the bucket.

I will post again after the 30 days to let you guys know how it went and if I stayed with it.
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Thank you for the utube video on why not to buy ASM and the alternatives.
They look much better for starting off with.

I agree with you on white labelling. It is a bit of a liability minefield. Easy to get wrong.

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Im suprised no-one is commenting on the real story here...

The reason ASM is so expensive is the software which automates all your seo, backlinks, press releases e.t.c. to promote the product listing. This backend software is plugged right into your account.

This means you are paying ASM for the training/software, but in return they have complete access to see what you are doing, your listings, your failures, what products rank and for what keywords e.t.c

They have all your data and everyone elses in the program. When the hype has died down you can be assured they will use this data to rank their own new products. It will be a goldmine for them.
So what you are saying is that you have just paid to be their research lab. You will prove what is hot and what is not. They can then use their bigger machine to come in and undercut you.
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I want to talk some numbers. I don't currently sell on Amazon, specifically via FBA, so I welcome those who do to give their thoughts on the following.

After a little research, it seems Amazon FBA shaves about 28-30% off your sale price. In ASM's examples they talked about PL products like spatulas, tea tumblers, etc. These products retail on Amazon for $18-20. For this example, let's say you find a supplier who will sell, private label and ship to FBA for $8. This may or may not be too conservative.
So looking at the numbers:

Sale $18
COGS 8
$10

Amazon referral fee (15%) $2.7
Order Handling $1
Pick and Pack $1
Weight Handling $0.46
30 day storage $0.02

Total FBA Costs $5.18

Net Profit $4.82

So let's say using this program, your goal was to net $2k/month per product. That means you would need to sell about 415 products/mo.

For the $30k per product they claim they're making, that's about 6,200 sales per month.

My question is to those who currently sell on Amazon. What is the feasibility of this? What is the reality of how long it would take to get to 400/units per mo per product?

I ask because I am interested in what's reasonable. If they can honestly teach you to get your product to this level quite easily by getting you very quickly to the "buy box" then it may be worth it. On the other hand, if 9/10 people who try this are only gonna see 30 sales a month then personally I wouldn't even bother.
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So what you are saying is that you have just paid to be their research lab. You will prove what is hot and what is not. They can then use their bigger machine to come in and undercut you.
Yes this is exactly what I'm getting at.

This is not to say the ASM program is no good, or that they guys running it are unethical. But be aware they are getting very critical marketing data from all their members. And there is no doubt they will use this data to rank their own products in the future.

If you buy into ASM I would learn from their program but not use any of the automated tools.
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I don't honestly believe that anybody with a real business on Amazon who is raking in the kind of money suggested would spend their time putting a course together like this and give away their secrets to any tom, dick or harry who can afford it. Wouldn't you just escalate what you've been doing if you're making so much money and hope to chr!st that it's a while before the inevitable happens and somebody else discovers your goldmine? But then again I might be completely wrong and wouldn't mind admitting it
Well based on what some people have written, this is a multi million dollar launch and they seem to be positioned to clear at least seven figures after paying out affiliates. So yeah, cashing out that kind of money is a good motivator. Selling information doesn't have cost of goods sold like selling tangible products so I'd do it too!

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I agree with you on white labelling. It is a bit of a liability minefield. Easy to get wrong.
It really depends on what you sell. Having said that, a lot of you are assuming you have ZERO liability in whatever you do. Just because you aren't aware of the liability of what you're doing doesn't mean you don't have liability. Product liability is a whole different beast, but there are product categories where liability is not that much of an issue, and there is insurance.


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Sale $18
COGS 8
$10

Amazon referral fee (15%) $2.7
Order Handling $1
Pick and Pack $1
Weight Handling $0.46
30 day storage $0.02

Total FBA Costs $5.18

Net Profit $4.82
Let's see... My experience is not in the categories they covered in their examples. My ecommerce experience is based off small, lightweight, expensive for it's size and weight. Therefore a tumbler would not be a product I would want to sell because it's heavy and inexpensive for it's size.

I will tell you some things I sell on Amazon:

I have 1 product that I buy for 0.50 landed from china (meaning shipping and everything factored in) that I clear $1.85 (after all fees and COGS). The ONLY reason I sell it is because it sells reliably and consistently and why not? it's an extra few hundred a month and it costs nothing. I would not go LOOKING for another product like this, but it was something I already knew about.

It's not private label but it doesn't matter (for now).

I have 5 products I private label that I manufacture (not label an existing design but are made to my spec) therefore they truly really are exclusive (because of the nature of the design are copyright protected-- registered). I pay $5 landed and sell for $20 on Amazon. They are consistent sellers and I will be back up after replenishing inventory.

Fees are 5.42 including FBA.

I think the key is, and always will be, finding the right product opportunity.

These particular price points, though, are the lowest. My normal selling price on amazon ranges from $36-$140. I could only go into selling something with a low profit if the cost was really really low.


@tiger1:

When they sold the course last year, it had research software as part of it. Does this new course include that research software (it was adobe air based and called Amazon Money Finder)

Thanks!
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Malia,

Thanks for that info. It was helpful to get input from someone who is already actively selling on Amazon.

As far as the software goes, we don't have access to the software yet as they don't want us jumping ahead of schedule and not using it when we are supposed to for its intended purpose.

We won't have access until halfway through the training after we have already set up our store, picked a product to sell, found a supplier and have it in our inventory, so the product selection software is obviously not going to be one of the tools. They are teaching us how to do that manually. I almost bought in to Matt's program last year and I do remember that product selection tool. Not sure what happened to it but since everything hinges first on choosing the right product, doing it manually with their guidance and instruction is definitely the way to go.

As far as the mention of them using their tools to steal your information and promote your products themselves, I don't see that happening. The reason is because their tools only allow you to promote a specific product on Amazon and get it ranked well. They have no idea if that product is actually selling well as that information is not recorded or tracked in the tools. They would be taking a huge risk by just randomly selecting products that are in the system being promoted not knowing if they are selling at all. It would be like throwing darts at a board of products. They obviously are doing well choosing their own products to promote.
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That is exactly what I was thinking.
The Pac Course is good, but could need a fresh up. The Information there is not that clearly laid out as it is in the ASM PDFs.
The ASM Videos and PDFs make it very clear what the big picture is and how this business work.

After all it all comes down to one question:
"Where do I find hot in demand Products that can be Private Labeled and offer a huge margin?"

If that question is answered, the rest will come natural:
Do some SEO
Write a Press Release
Do some Backlinking (SEnuke)
Create a Video
Get Reviews
Write a good Product Sales Page

That's all basic Internet Marketers stuff that most of us do every day.

My main Problem is and thats what I read out of the forum for the most people there is "Finding my HOT HOT Private Label Product".

I agree. For me, anyway, it all comes down to one question. "Where do I find hot in demand Products that can be Private Labeled and offer a huge margin?"

Among all the Amazon Seller courses mentioned in this wonderful thread, aside from ASM (too expensive for $3500), which course is dynamite at not only TEACHING how to private label products but ALSO assists sellers in locating and sourcing such products? I am VERY interested in buying such a course.
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