Mark Dulisse

With 50% commission...there is money to be made by affiliates. This is why.

justthejob

The ASM promo email I received from John Reese was just a link, without even a hint of a bonus as far as I could see. ( Not that I'm too bothered about bonuses as they usually just divert your attention )
I also received ASM promos from other respected IMers, who were convinced it was the best path to follow. ( the 50% commission aside).
Having been tipped off about ASM by people whose views I had respected up to that point, I had a look and was impressed.
All I then needed to do was check out the WF. Well, I reckon there is enough info in this thread alone to get you going.
Certainly saved me some money.
Thanks guys!

malia

I did too, and refunded. Wrote about it on WF.


Jim Cockrum's course is great. The only downside is he focuses on a retail arbitrage process and that can be difficult to scale and sustain, and for some people it's just not doable. However, all the basic building blocks are there. Where Amazing Selling Machine improves is by focusing on manufacturing, branding and marketing. Or private labeling, branding and marketing. But you don't need the course to do that. However, you do need to understand how to purchase from manufacturers and/or distributors, the basics of branding and product promotion and marketing.

The easiest way to start, though, is regular purchasing just to get a feel for what is involved. I don't think it makes sense for someone who has never done it to invest in private label products off the bat. IMO, you need a little experience working with the system and dealing with the kinks, possibly getting UPC exemptions or special category approval and that can take time.


Agreed. However, if someone is new to selling on Amazon, this probably has the best value for getting started even if you cannot or will not follow the process.

YES! The first one skipped over FBA which was vital to really making Amazon work. This one goes into private labeling, which just makes them seem like they intentionally hold back good stuff because how could they have launched that course last year and NOT have gone into detail about FBA or private labeling? It's not like that just NOW became a competitive advantage.

They also seem to have software tools that are rolled in, which give the impression that they are spammy backlinking tools that they are throwing at Amazon because it's really hard to have a negative SEO effect on Amazon.

Having said that, all the information above is freely available.


And breaking amazon rules can even mean not doing something bad. For instance, not submitting data feeds to your sandbox account. Ask me how I know. Account cancelled for months, inventory sitting in the warehouse. You have to be able to deal with the unexpected whenever you're in an inventory based business/


Once your business gets to a certain point, you should have liability insurance just because. Importing from China means fewer insurers will cover you, and at a higher cost, but it is affordable, and there are specialized insurers for niches that commonly import, to help prevent overpaying for a policy. It's great selling online without some of the traditional business risks, but you can't escape everything all the time and sometimes you just have to suck it up and protect yourself and your business. In my personal experience without the importing the liability policy can be acquired for around $500, with the importing, around $1500-3000 (or more, depending, and that's for a low risk category).

And also, that would mean there are categories you want to avoid if you want to reduce your liability. For example, I won't touch items that plug into sockets. Don't want the liability.

This is not specific to Amazon, because I acquired my liability insurance for other reasons, prior to selling on Amazon. It's great solely selling online with very few requirements, but when you want to get into other opportunities these things are required (for example, selling wholesale TO retailers) so it's nothing that someone should be afraid of if they intend to build a sustainable and thriving business.


But going back to the topic:

$3500 is a lot of money and you could probably pay a really really smart college kid to research everything about selling on amazon, write a custom report and buy more training material and still come out less expensive than that. I look at is what I learned worth what i paid and with this one, I'm not sure. With their last launch, it was not worth $997 (even though their software was fantastic it was missing critical features), and there's no reason to believe this one is any different.

One last thing about selling on Amazon

You need to have money to get started. Amazon pays out twice a month. It takes 3-4 days to hit your bank account. If you wait for your deposit to re-order/stock up, it's around 2-3 weeks to get things over to fulfillment and into your inventory. Therefore, you need to be able to purchase at least 30 days of inventory to really make it through otherwise you're dropping momentum with stock outs. I don't feel they are entirely clear with that. Yes you get paid like clockwork, however, if your inventory is getting low, you need to be able to re-order without waiting for a disbursement because Amazon's inbound fulfillment (getting your items into their inventory system) is just not the fastest thing.

georgearthur

If it sounds too good to be true then it is. Take a look at Scamworld: 'Get rich quick' mutates into an unstoppable monster


I will not tell you whose face you will see if you watch the video, but you can probably guess. I will add some of these people have taken my money and I have nothing to show for it except a receipt. Wouldn't that be an interesting product!

sammystin

I don't have a lot of posts, but I wanted to add my humble two cents this time.

During this whole fiasco, I've unsubscribed from 98% of email marketers. Why? I've learned to discern.

This is a relatively new product, right? Are you sure your own promoter has completed the program?

Many are complaining about the two guys in the program, but they have at least done it and are making the money.

Shouldn't we be more concerned about the integrity of the JV partnerships so prevalent in the IM marketplace and our "guru friends" promoting programs without having tried them?

I've done amazon FBA.. yes, it works, and yes, it even works to the tune of those two guys if you know what to do. But why are all these people promoting this when they've NEVER done it? This is what we need to ask of ourselves first... the promoters are the "best in the industry" and they haven't done it, so why are they telling YOU & ME to give it a go... for $3,500???

It's probably a good program (as I was able to make good money without the program) but that isn't the point!

Feel a bit sad about this whole thing.


Note: This is not to say that anyone is bad. But when I recommend something as little as a $2 cup of coffee, I do so after I've tried and only when I absolutely love it. Don't you? The same promoters will ironically sell you on "reputation management" next week!

PeterFinch

Hi Everyone,

I listened to the webinar last night on the Amazing (Amazon) Selling Machine and was tempted to buy in myself, but as with most things, it's better to take time out, do some due diligence and think rationally - before parting with $3497.00!!

Thanks to all of you for your valuable comments, which convinced me to save my money and not invest in this overpriced hype.

I must admit that I found the webinar to be quite informative and eye opening, having been an affiliate marketer for 14 years. At last, products are back and I can definitely see the potential of FBA....as long as you have the right product.

I asked some questions in the webinar itself - most of which were ignored.

I would like to know..

Which categories do they find most profitable?

They contended that you could find something which is popular and have it made for you and brand it yourself. So that prompted me to ask about trademark issues. Also people buy products by brand, because of trust which is earned. If you check most categories in Amazon, you will see that most of the best sellers are branded products like Brita, Philips, Morphy Richards, etc etc. How do we compete against global players like these?

I also found the 30 day guarantee period to be strange as well. Surely this is not long enough to evaluate such an expensive program extending over 8 weeks and not one month?

I also requested details about the software, but none were given.

So all in all, I still have many more questions before I would even consider parting with $3497.00 and after what I have read here, that is not going to happen. I can certainly see the potential of Amazon FBA and am sure there is lots of money to be made. I, like others here would be willing to part with $500.00 for this information.

In case anyone is wondering why this "opportunity" is so expensive, you only have to go over to the JV page to see why! This shocked me!

Amazing Selling Machine JV Center

PRIZES (in addition to the 40-50% commission)

$50,000 CASH + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event (All Expenses Paid)
$20,000 or Ducati 1199 Panigale S Superbike + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event (All Expenses Paid)
$8,000 or 7-Day All Expenses Paid China Mastermind/Product Sourcing Trip in July + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event
$5,000 or iPad-Controlled Massage Chair + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event
$3,000 or 2-Day Porsche Performance Driving School + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event
$2,000 or iMac 27″ 3.2 GHz + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event
$1,700 or MacBook Pro Retina + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event
$1,400 or MacBook Air 13″ + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event
$1,100 or MacBook Air 11″ + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event
$700 or iPad with Retina Display (128GB) + 2 VIP Tickets to Live Event
$400 or iPad Mini
$400 or iPad Mini
$400 or iPad Mini
$400 or iPad Mini
$400 or iPad Mini
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=================

Oh to be a guru! :-)

As the JV page urges....grab your links and let’s crush it! (Not with my money they won't).

Cheers

Peter

sammystin

Every WSO that I bought in my life was my fault and so was everything else.
Please guys, no sour grapes.




Last night I had a friend who seriously asked,

"Who is your trusted one?"
I replied, "Jim Cockrum" ... funny never ever know him

Guys, it's not about the money
Don't make excuses.

malia

It's easier to compete in categories where there's more brand diversification. You have to think: in what areas are people more likely to try a niche or unknown brand? In certain categories niche brands make up a sizable portion of the market share.

Or in what categories will people give a chance to a less expensive alternative? Me personally (Philips) I have shelled out enough money on Sonicare and Clarisonic that I'd roll the dice on a less expensive competitor, if it was just as good.

There are also categories where big brands don't dominate because the market is too small for them, but still big enough for a smaller company.

This is where I think having general business experience really helps. if all you're into is internet marketing, you can develop tunnel vision. Go to a few trade shows for products and broaden your scope.

kapo

so they did a webinar and still no software demo? wow..

Jim Cockrum

I'm humbled and honored by that. Seriously.

If I ever do anything to lose that trust please kick my butt. I pledge to keep on earning your trust every day.

My approach is simple - I don't promote launches or fads. I grow my own business, and if something legit and sustainable is working for me THEN I tell my friends about it & charge a fair price to train those who want training. This way I can hire good people & pay my staff well to train those who want it - all the while we run my businesses DOING what we teach BEFORE we teach it. It's really not complicated to do the right thing.

sammystin

What I mean is this whole thread turned out to be something different.

And if anyone is into offline, that's what Jim teaches day in and day out... take action. Please don't be fearful, thinking you cannot do, because you really can. Guys, I got my first $3,500 set-up client with $597 for 2 years and the two years is up now.

If Jim teaches you anything, he's genuine while most are not!!! But with or without him, please do it. No WSO will EVER do it for you, $7 or $4,000.- what I'm saying is if you want to leave it to a chance, your chance is better with him than anyone else... Just saying...

jmk909er

Hi Jim, I bought your Proven Amazon Course yesterday and am almost through the Silent Sales Machine book already. I echo the same sentiments. I am very impressed with your sound techniques and integrity and I'm very excited about your course. Thanks, Joe

jontster

Having been interested in getting started with physical products/ecommerce for some time I have watched the promo materials with interest. I have no doubt that white labeling products to sell on Amazon is a viable business model although there are clearly challenges as with any business enterprise - in particular it seems critical to me that you learn how to boost a product ranking within Amazon itself as well as understanding wholesaling, working with suppliers and everything that goes with it. Not forgetting the legal stuff.

As far as the pricing of this product is concerned, I understand the course comes with 2 years access to some of JKs existing products (or something similar) such as Traffic Kaboom (which is currently closed), PR Kaboom and a couple of other tools. The theory being that you use these to drive additional traffic to your Amazon products.

I think Traffic Kaboom was around $100 a month and PR Kaboom is currently $97 a month so 2 years of access to both actually cost in the order of $4800.

How essential they are to make this business model work I cannot judge. I would be disappointed (naive?) to discover they have been included in order to justify the hefty price tag if they dont really add much value to this model.

rmoore

1lov1,

Yeah...I'm not promoting this one either...I'm just pretty jazzed about the course.

Just thought I would come in here and make a counterpoint. I knew as soon as the priced was announced, that things would get a bit nutty on the Warrior Forum.

I don't make my income promoting I.M. products, I think in the past 3 years I've promoted Andre Chaperon's courses, Cover Social Press, and Profits Theme.

This Amazon product isn't for everyone, that is for sure.

...but for someone who makes at least a decent income online & wants to work in a community of people learning how to sell private label on Amazon...this is a great product.

I don't want to talk anyone into purchasing this.

I just don't believe it is fair to call it a scam.

Expensive (yes)...but that doesn't make it a scam.

Cheers,

-Rusty

sammystin

Andre is very quiet just like Jim Cockram. And I respect them the most. I haven't gone through the whole course but they're about being good people, not quick IM people.

I've done my share of comments for 3 (or seven, LOL!) years now.

sammystin

Yes, it's a lot of money, but.. in the defense of ASM, I said... no actually, to say you and I need to take action, I said:

Who was the the course for? Hopefully, it was to help people like you and me find quick and better answers to take care of our family, but how did we treat it (because we couldn't afford it.. maybe)? Another shiny object at a department of addicts (like down the old 42nd street where I used to take the bus to Jersey).

Guys, $4,000 course is not bad, even $40,000 course is awesome if you focus NOW! Why are you hanging out here whining? Go get clients! The $7 WSO you bought 2 days ago is just as good!

If and when you can put a course together for $3,500, let me know and I'll buy. Let's all wake up, okay? Many Loves!

Now, I've really "used" up my posts.

Why does everything I say sound "not-so-right"... no wonder I have less than 30 posts!

morphers

There are programs out there that help with sourcing, and feedback and such on amazon and fba. If you subscribe/useo a couple good ones you are spending $100-200 per month right there. 200*24 = $4800. I do believe Matt will be offering programs that will pretty much make those programs useless as you'll have his programs to use. That in itself makes it worth it.
I'm a member of the previous iteration of Matt's program, so if you have questions PM me before you take the big leap.

sammystin

Oh f***k, there there goes my final post.

Yes, it's expensive. Yes, I would NEVER buy it... actually not sure if I'd even take it for free (I'm busy too).

Who do I respect the most? Yes Jim Cockram and (the email King) Andrew (two people who hardly ever promote).


Thanks,

neilrock

Just received an email saying from Jason & Matt that there's a "behind the scenes video" which is just a replay of a 2 hour webinar... LOL

Lisa Suttora

Hi Maria,
Thanks for asking.

Yes, the core Sourcing the RIGHT Products Wholesale to sell on Amazon course is all current material. The core course is 10 hours+ of step-by-step materials and I designed it so that people can start with the fundamentals and used the advanced materials as their business/skills grow.

I periodically add updates on new ways to do market research, as well as consumer trends (in fact, I'm in the process of adding some new videos now). All students get the updates included.

Students also have lifetime access to the course and all updates. I also do a monthly Q&A coaching call so that students can get their specific questions answered about sourcing products for their Amazon sales channel.

This course is strictly focused on wholesale sourcing, different ways to do market research to determine what products to source for Amazon, as well as how to spot pockets of opportunity, and consumer trends.

We don't cover any Amazon product page optimization or marketing in the course or nuts and bolts of Amazon selling. (Sourcing is such a big topic, I wanted to really keep the course focused on this core skill.)

I do teach marketing strategies for Amazon separately in my Strategic Biz Marketing program.

That being said, if our sourcing students ask a marketing question on one of our sourcing calls, I answer them.

-Lisa

TimothyW

Sorry if this is a dumb question...

Which product are you talking about here?...

Lisa Suttora

Hi Tim,
This is an ecommerce course that I teach on wholesale sourcing specifically desgined for 3rd party merchants selling in the Amazon marketplace.

(I've been working with online merchants who sell on Amazon, eBay, or an ecommerce website, since 2004.)

Not sure if it's OK to post a link, but you can find out more about me at Lisa Suttora DOT com.

The information about the sourcing course is at Lisa Suttora DOT com/amazonsourcing (or just click the products tab).

-Lisa

TimothyW

Thanks -- the reason I asked is because I see the AMM + that other ebook being discussed here -- so yours is a 3rd option then.

(((signed)))
Easily Confused

Jim Cockrum

Lisa has a great reputation and has been a creative source of reliable information for years in the eBay/Amazon sourcing niche and many others. Glad to see her chime in here!

novac

Thanks for that info, Scott. I've been down that road before, and I'd swear that they had degrees in psychology to know just the precise amount of information/training to provide before the refund date. Curiosity and those dollar signs dancing in your head, plus if the training was effectively given to that point - well, it all makes it a very difficult decision. (My decision truly backfired once.) I wouldn't be surprised if you continually hear that 'that's coming later in the course'.

I was on a webinar with them 3/14/13. They had written that it was to be about the great software we would be using, and once it got started they mentioned 7 softwares, but then went on to only (sort of) cover, I'm pretty sure - 3 of them. I kept asking what about the other software, but they were having too much FUN giving away Amazon gift certificates. If you'd like to Hear & Watch how Honest they are, this is a link to the very same webinar, I believe. No way I'm going to watch it again to verify Webinar Replay | The Amazing Selling Machine
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they aren't - but it certainly did take up a great deal of the webinar time in two different spots. I've purchased from Jason Katzenback (w/Jason Potash) before and he did excellent video tutorials and I believe he has a very good reputation. I do not know Matt Clark.

But, is that what's happening lately? Like Jon Shugart / Mailer Millionaire?
That's another thread that I just haven't had the oomph to comment on yet. Maybe I will if I hear that they reopen.

Take care all...

ChrisWF

Hi Lisa

do you have a coupon code for your course?

Thanks
Chris

ironwood

Of course there are many marketers who are searching for that
"hands Free", check into Starbucks a few days a week and see
how my magic business is running, type of business.

The course being discussed here may be it. But my thoughts, run
along the lines of an Amazon business where you have to do some
work just like any other "real business", learn how to purchase
good product and market it on Amazon.

$3500, if used to purchase product to resell and a few courses
from folks like Jim Cockrum, Lisa Suttora, Skip McGrath and a
few others, along with a litle Google searching and some honest
study, could be the basis of an honest to goodness Amazon
business.

I am just an old guy in my 70s how would I know anything about
any of this? Well as I write this post I am sitting in a motel
in Ocala, Fla. Been here for a few days and came here from
Jacksonville, Fla, where my wife and I spent 7 days.

We are from Michigan and if you check the weather reports from
Mi and Fla it will be easy to figure out why we are here. Our poor
Ford Escape is loaded to the roof with product we have purchased
from thrift stores in the last 10 days.

(We made a mistake on this trip. We usually carry the printers
and other stuff needed to send products off to Amazon from
where ever we happen to be. That way the stuff gets to the
Amazon warehouse and starts to earn for us while we are
still enjoying our travels. We did not do that this trip).

Those products, which allow us to travel where ever and whenever
we choose, were purchased with a little labor and lots of
knowledge gained from the folks I mentioned above who I still
listen to and gladly continue to purchase their training and
advice.

Although we have been selling on eBay and Amazon for over 10 years
the real change in our lives began last April when we began using
the Amazon FBA system. My goal in the last few years has been to
build a sustainable business that would allow my wife to live
comfortably if I should pass away before her.

I did Amazon affiliate marketing for a number of years but came to
realize that keeping up with all the Google changes and other work
necessary to maintain a series of those types of sites would not be
possible for her.

Amazon FBA on the other hand is the answer. She could grab a sister
or one of our grown children or even a grandchild and continue on
with this business. I try not to remind her of this too often in
case she decided that if somehow I was gone a little earlier her
life might be even more enjoyable.

While this business model is allowing us to really enjoy life,
(stopped at a country gift shop in the middle of nowhere yesterday,
nothing but a four corner type of location, and bought a bunch of
CDs and Pez dispensers to send off to Amazon), our age and health
will not allow us to travel forever.

That's why I continue to purchase training products and follow the
advice from the trusted folks I mentioned above to gain the
knowledge of wholesale purchase so we can expand our business when
our bodies began to remind us that we ain't in our 50s any longer.

If I was 20 years younger the ideas that the guys selling the course
that began this thread in the first place might appeal to me. However
when you began to realize that you no long have the time to experiment
and try new things it is comforting to know there is a business model
that has been successful and will most likely continue to be
successful for many years. And being enjoyable doe's not hurt either.

Sorry for taking up so much space but I thought it might be helpful to
some to know that the Amazon system can in fact work. There will always
be those forward thinkers who devise methods to improve on it and these
two guys may have done just that. I on the other hand am living a great
life based on old fashioned principles of business, old fashioned in
internet years, that just seem to keep working.

What ever system any of you choose to practice I wish you the same
success.

Chet Hastings

Awakened

A million thanks Chet for your honest and insightful viewpoint.

Lisa Suttora

Hi Chris,
I don't have a coupon at this time. The cost course of the full course, including the monthly Q&A calls (and all additional materials) is $197.

-Lisa

Lisa Suttora

Thanks Jim! I appreciate it.

-Lisa

kenni

Hi Lisa, I opened a ticket at your support center...I'll be picking up your course. I'm confident this and Jim's course is more than sufficient information for me to thrive on Amazon...and eBay.

ironwood

I received a private message from this gentleman and am posting his question and answer here. I won't answer any more questions in the thread because I am taking the thread away from it's original intent. But if the information I provided for Sajid helps him maybe it will help others also.

Hi Sajid. Yes Jim's PAC course is all about Amazon and FBA. I purchased his course just about 2 months ago even though I have been selling on Amazon for years but selling through FBA just since last April.

I have purchased other courses from him and for a number of years belonged to his paid membership.

I currently belong to Lisa's paid membership and have purchased a number of books from Skip McGrath including his wholesale buying guide just recently. I buy from others also and although a lot of material I get I already know and use I always seem to pick up one of two good tips that I was not familiar with and would never have known to search for them without purchasing various products.

My belief is that in any business you need to keep learning to keep growing. So I am happy to invest a portion of my Amazon earnings in new and updated courses and books.

My criteria for purchasing any product on Amazon basically is to try to buy products that I can list for 3 times the price I pay for it. Because Amazon takes about 40 percent of any sale using this method guarantees I can make a profit.

About replacing your full time job, yes I think it is possible but it will take a while and some investment. Don't believe the claims you see that state you can invest $100 and make a full time living on Amazon. It will take much more than that.

I also believe that to find good products at a good price you will need some tools. I use a couple of barcode scanners to find my products and so do almost every other serious Amazon seller.

I think if you are just starting out and if you want to get a good start you will need to spend a few hundred dollars on good solid Amazon training courses, join a few good free forums. One of the best in my opinion is the FBA forum on Yahoo groups.

Sign up for Skip; McGraths newsletter and also Jims and LIsa's. The more you know before you start the better your chances of success.

Please don't make the mistake of using your credit card to run out and buy a lot of product to sell on Amazon before you learn how to pick good selling products based on seller competition, price, product ranking and other variables.

Many of the ridiculous low prices you find on Amazon are from sellers who spend a ton of money and then when they don't get sales they beginning lowballing their prices to get their money back.

Amazon is different than eBay and you will be dealing with a different class of buyers. Learn all you can before making expensive product purchases. Many Amazon sellers start out with stuff from their own home or with books because they can be purchased for pennies and sold at very good markups. Amazon can be started very easily and inexpensively.

There are folks who can give you much better answers that I can. I only posted in this thread originally to give a different perspective to Amazon selling and the course the thread represented.

I am posting your question because of the way you asked your question but I do not want to distract from the original thread or try to pass myself off as some kind of expert which I am not.

Learn a lot, spend a little and over time I believe you can do very well. As you asked I will post your question and my answer in the thread.

Chet Hastings

Kona77

You get the Hero of the day award. That is a fantastic video link.

Dave Espino

Rusty is right on.

If you want to learn how to "manufacture your own" or white label products and sell them through Amazon FBA, this is the course - and for that business model, it does not appear to be priced too badly.

If you want to learn how to sell all kinds of existing products (found at retail stores and other local buying outlets) on Amazon using FBA, then Jim Cockrum's Proven Amazon Course (PAC) fits the bill to a T.

It's a matter of which business model you are able to do right now and are ready and able to do right now.

Unfortunately, there will be a lot of people who bought the former course (ASM) that should've bought the latter course. (PAC)

I'm just glad to see that this is opening a lot of eyes toward the more realistic business models of selling physical products via ecommerce, (eBay / Amazon) which never really went away...

Dave

Jim Cockrum

Thanks for the vote of support Dave!

For the public record though -the PAC course has (and is adding more soon) content re: creating "white label", bundles, your own bar codes etc.

The PAC course is a living, growing course that gains new content continually as successful students are tapped to teach the rest of us what they are doing that's working.

Dave Espino

I stand corrected, Jim - thanks for reminding me about the bundle concepts and the bar code examples - good stuff! And I like that it is constantly being updated and added-to.

Even though I'm known as an eBay expert, I actually started selling on Amazon (and Yahoo) back in 2000, when they offered online auctions right alongside eBay...

But once I really dug into the Proven Amazon Course, and saw some of the Amazon FBA success stories that Jim Cockrum highlighted, I realized that it's now time to take my product-sourcing knowledge and apply it to Amazon FBA.

And, although I will always do eBay because it's an awesome source of buyer traffic, (especially for high-demand products, which is my niche) this Amazon FBA thing is a whole 'nother animal that allows for scaling your business FAST. (like nothing I've seen so far)

It's very exciting!

Dave

morphers

So they have posted a live webinar (now replay) Talking about the software and Q&A about the new program.

Check it out @ Amazon Selling Machine (Not an affiliate link)

I think it is very promising!

Also, last day to signup.

ChrisWF

I've signed up for tha 4 x $997 payment plan today.

Why?

The Pre Sales Material was very high quality and I'm curious to see, if they can stand up to their promises.

The 30 Day Refund period starts with the first seminar on 03/21/2013.
From there I can watch 4 Modules and decide if I want to continue or take a refund.
The questions that I have should be answered in Week 1 and Week 2.

I've signed up to their Userforum and so have done 657 others already.
That's a pretty impressive number.
I've read a few of the Introductions and I must say I'm also very impressed with the Quality of the Users too.

There are a lot of offline Business Owners (like me) who wants to get a foot into the Online selling of Physical Products.

Will update this thread how it goes.
Chris

jordanmalik

I am a contributor to Jim Cockrum's PAC course.

I also was approved to be a JV for the AmazingSellingMachine course (which I refused to sell, even though I have a list of 3,000+ tuned-in Amazon/ebay merchants and I could have made a small fortune from them).

If you're interested, I did a full review here (there is not an affiliate link to that Selling Machines course in there, as I said I refused to sell it): You'll see why I didn't recommend it (the high price tag wasn't the only reason).

Jim's PAC course (http://ProvenAmazonCourse.com) is legit (and I'm one of his sometimes-critics, too. I'm also an affiliate of that course, but that's not my affiliate link.)

Also legit (and $249) is the premium membership at http://itsdewable.com (that's not my affiliate link, even though I am an affiliate of that course too).

-Jordan Malik

ScottLindsay

I have never head of the Dewable course. Is it any good? Do they show you how to private label products?

jordanmalik

They do not show you how to private label products. It is an excellent course, it teaches you exactly how to sell on Amazon, exactly how to source items online, and exactly how to automate (outsource) the grunt work so you can maximize your time.

-Jordan

BusyMum_2010

I looked at PAC but I am not impressed because they are all theories, all talking on videos, no step by step process, sorry to say, way overpriced for $347 or $99. But I am impressed on the information of free PDF of Amazon Selling Machine because it's like you do it step by step. I can do things "step by step" and get bored quickly with just watching videos full of talks.

I like Amazon Selling Machine but way overpriced as well for $3,497, I cannot afford.

BusyMum_2010

You can ask directly the wholesale supplier if they can put your own brand or "Private Label" on the product. That's what I did when I asked one and they said yes depending on the quantity I will order.

spcbox

Hey Jordan,

Just wanted to point out the website of Debra & Beth is actually thriftingforprofit.com, not thriftprofit.com you mentioned in your video.

Sorry, just thought I would correct you as these ladies have a lot of good
content to offer visitors.

Kind regards,
Sabrina

JKaluza

Fwiw I saw the live webinar just a couple of hours ago per an email heads-up by way of being on Eben Pagan's (who filled in for Matt during the webinar) mailing list.

I didn't know there'd been a previous course but even so there were a few curious statements made during the presentation that sounded alerts for me as well, for example a few times the speaker Jason anticipated objections so he could dispel them and once, bringing up the question of why, if private labeling of goods is such a great idea, isn't Amazon doing it themselves? "Because it's not their business model," he said, and "Big companies like this don't want to deal with a bunch of small clients [blah blah etc] like that."

But Amazon has been private labeling goods themselves for at least 5 years and here's the Sept 2009 article from BusinessInsider I was reminded of:

10 Amazon Private-Label Products You Didn't Know Existed

They'd already been doing it with some goods for 2 years at the time of that story. (Of course [wink] this just proves what a great idea it is! --though none of that actually came up in the webinar.)

He also addressed the possible (ie probable) objection as to 'if this is making so much money for you guys, why are you revealing the method in the form of a course like this?' and said the key, in addition to the "fact" that this is something that can never be saturated [ha ha], is in the "mastermind group" that will form to benefit everybody by the sharing around of experiences and insights etc & so on ie the old "two heads are better than one" principle. On the other hand one might wonder if "too many cooks spoil the broth" doesn't turn out to be the moral of this story?

As always, it's generally a good practice to keep your Google box open during a webinar pitch and I did find that just about everything, except the mystery tracking, eg, software paying customers get access to for a 2 year period, can be had for free with a little search diligence and a few phone calls, but that was another of the objections he anticipated by pointing out that even if you can find the info via search and figure out how to implement it, there's no way you could make up for the time they save you by having gone through all the trial & error for you, PLUS investing the $175,000 they did to pay the programmers &etc to ensure you're getting topnotch stuff.

Personally I would (and will) gladly forego the $3497 (or 4 monthly $997 installments) cost of the course and learn the ins & outs of a method like this in a thorough, more grounded, imo, way by my own trial & error than shell out those kinda bucks for something that raises so many red alerts from the get-go...despite the fact that he emphasized more than once that you can crank up the big money juices almost literally from Day 1 by using the info in this course and get paid in 14 days, or whatever the exact period is, rather than put your time & effort into something like, say, Kindle books where you don't get your first check for 60 days.

John

ChrisWF

That is exactly what I was thinking.
The Pac Course is good, but could need a fresh up. The Information there is not that clearly laid out as it is in the ASM PDFs.
The ASM Videos and PDFs make it very clear what the big picture is and how this business work.

After all it all comes down to one question:
"Where do I find hot in demand Products that can be Private Labeled and offer a huge margin?"

If that question is answered, the rest will come natural:
Do some SEO
Write a Press Release
Do some Backlinking (SEnuke)
Create a Video
Get Reviews
Write a good Product Sales Page

That's all basic Internet Marketers stuff that most of us do every day.

My main Problem is and thats what I read out of the forum for the most people there is "Finding my HOT HOT Private Label Product".

yohan

Im suprised no-one is commenting on the real story here...

The reason ASM is so expensive is the software which automates all your seo, backlinks, press releases e.t.c. to promote the product listing. This backend software is plugged right into your account.

This means you are paying ASM for the training/software, but in return they have complete access to see what you are doing, your listings, your failures, what products rank and for what keywords e.t.c

They have all your data and everyone elses in the program. When the hype has died down you can be assured they will use this data to rank their own new products. It will be a goldmine for them.

Jassa

Thanks, Yohan, for your input and yes, you are of course right. I don't really have a problem with that though because all marketers are doing that sort of research the whole time if they have the know-how ...aren't we?!! I don't begrudge them that because I do trust that they are basically 'ethical' guys and whatever they are learning I think will mostly be funnelled back into the strategies that they will be sharing with us.

I bought their program last year and although it was very good I just did not have the ability to implement it then. Hopefully this time around I will be able to

I know Jason from buying a product of his several years ago and he is a 'good guy' and Matt is definitely a brilliant entrepreneur

alistair

I pretty much agree with this if what you say about them having all their members data etc is correct. I don't blame anybody for buying this course though as it sounds ok but peronally I would no way spend that kind of money on what really sounds like a lot of hype.

I don't honestly believe that anybody with a real business on Amazon who is raking in the kind of money suggested would spend their time putting a course together like this and give away their secrets to any tom, dick or harry who can afford it. Wouldn't you just escalate what you've been doing if you're making so much money and hope to chr!st that it's a while before the inevitable happens and somebody else discovers your goldmine? But then again I might be completely wrong and wouldn't mind admitting it.

ChrisWF

Thanks for making that point.
I don't think they will do that but I will certainly have an eye on that.

Also after setting up my first money making products I will try to replicate that without using their software.

Chris

P.S. Not every one out there is a Bad Apple