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lordkensal 12th March 2013 05:51 AM

IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Any chatter on this. Big launch this week, so a lot of emails going about.
I have done a review - (if anyone is interested). Just wondered what other people think of it. Surprised there was no thread for it.
So let me start one!:D

tim205 12th March 2013 06:58 PM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Where is the review? I would like to know what the pros think about this new system.

Marian 13th March 2013 02:08 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Why to cover their cost for the India trip? Why wouldn't they launch those hot niche sites in hundreds to cover the expense?

Marian

lordkensal 13th March 2013 04:42 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
I have uploaded a video onto my Vimeo account. Here you go:
https://vimeo.com/61673472

haslow 14th March 2013 05:57 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
If anyone is familiar with IMLobby this seems to be an identical product, only the wordpress page layout has changed. The youtube videos used on IMTarget even say IMLobby on them.
This is a complete beginners program for someone interested in internet marketing but just crawled out from under a rock. It is extremely ground floor basic starting with what type of chair to sit in, external drives for back-up etc.

IMTarget (like all of Anik's products as well as many other IMers) has your initial cost which is discounted $10 if you back out the first time, this brings the program to $37.
The there are 3 upsells after they secure your $37 payment. $199, $177, and I think another $197 all which are discounted $100 each if you back out. I did not go for the upsells.
You then register your ID and password and are in the program. Anik is using a wordpress Karma theme template for the entire production of IMTarget. The entire IMTarget program which is entirely accessed through the webserver had no download to your computer and it is identical to IMLobby which was launched about a year ago, the only change is in the wordpress template used.

The initial task which is step 1 is to watch the into video where Anik welcoms you and that is just about the last you see of him. All other videos are done by his staff who unfortunately have a heavy indian accent and are at times hard to understand.

Step 2 has you imediately chosing a domain name using Anik's hosting which is Hostzilla (No choice here). This is a smart tacktic Anik uses to reel in extreme newbies to quickly buy a domain and use Hostzilla at a hidden cost to you when you need to pay for the domain name and hosting service. He gets newbies on this step early almost making it seem mandatory before they realize this step is not necessary and can be done at a later time with your own domain registar and hosting service of your choice.
The following steps are short YouTube videos with basic information explaining things like what are keywords, what is SEO, what is affiliate marketing, facebook etc, very basic. A great deal of information is all text.

The videos are horribly produced and I am so surprised this came from Anik's company. They are almost unable to be understood with the heavy indian accent and the audio recorded in what sounds like a bathroom, lots of echo.

I am dissapointed at this product as it seems to have been put together in no more that 2 days (No joke, when using wordpress it is very easy). Very poor quality with what just seems to be a trap to get you to purchase upsells and services. On the other hand Anik seems to spend most of his time, effort and money on the promo videos to sell the program. He is such a great motivator and clear speaker getting you to really believe this is finally the program that has it all. That is where Anik's efforts end and his staff of all Indian step in. Forgive me I an in no way racist but to me this reminds me of being transfered to an offshore customer support center when trying to get technical help for a product. I am sure many (from USA) have had that type of experience. I am sure this is not a problem to understand in India but I really feel Anik should be the one on the videos since he speaks perfect english or he at least should have got someone with clear english speaking abilities.

On the positive side it does have information which can be usefull to a complete extreme newbie with absolutly no idea about anything related to Internet Marketing.

On the downside, which is huge, I can only see that it can harm a newbie by not letting them find out how to do the processes on their own like how to see the many resorces for buying a domain name, hosting service, etc. This is part of learning the business that should be learned by discovery.

Anyone can get everything this program offers (seriously) by just using google, and it will be much more benificial to do it that way. Not to mention and FREE!

I would not recommend this product to anyone as I would tell them to just do the leg work themselvs and google what the need to find out, they will have so much more choices and information with different view points and ideas and the knowledge gained of how to go about the process.

Like I said I am dissapointed in the value of content and quality of IMTarget. I will be requesting a refund as it is of no value to me at all. I was really hoping Anik had something here that I could use, and I am not what I would call a experienced IMer at all, but it really does not have anything I can use.

I must say I am depressed over this now and am losing faith in just about all of these offered programs not only by Anik but just about by every so called guru that puts one of these out. There really is no silver bullet. It is all in your effort and persistance.

If there are any typo's please excuse them as I just wanted to quickly express my findings on this program.

Take care,
Haslow:o

lordkensal 14th March 2013 07:05 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
2 points:

1. Link provided here is to my review hosted on VIMEO (not YOUTUBE)
2. NO affiliate link on my VIMEO review

End.

Lyanna 15th March 2013 07:56 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
I got an email about this but it was really scammy-sounding. The email claimed Anik made $50 million in 10 years from affiliate marketing. No proof.

gtone 15th March 2013 02:21 PM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Thank you so much haslow for sharing your review of the product. This I think will help those that are thinking of buying the product make an informed decision. Well said.

ThePhantom 17th March 2013 06:46 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
thanks for the review haslow. Kinda funny he claims he is launching this to combat scammers and the product itself is based on more scam than most other wso's...

TrafficBot 19th March 2013 12:35 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
I was an affiliate for IM lobby. Had a high ranking video on youtube for IM lobby. Lots of signups but never made a dime from his affiliate program, ever which was cpa. His affiliate back office was such a joke. Can you imagine how he treated his customers. Could never figure out why. Clickbank dumped him and Clicksure didn't want anything to do with him. I really don't think he cares about customers or affiliates. He creates his own affiliate platforms so shaving and scrubbing is his mantra . IMO, he is the consummate scammer both for affiliates and customers, period.

Jeff Lenney 19th March 2013 06:42 PM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
I don't see how this is called a scam?

Honestly - the info and product is GREAT for IM newbies. I've had BRAND NEW IM'ers sign up for this under my affiliate link and they LOVE it

They get a site builder
They get to learn about profitable niches
They get to learn the BASICS of IM in both Video and PDF form

No this is not going to make you rich over night - HOWEVER it's going to give you a great foundation in IM.

Yes, of course Aniks' going to recommend you get his hosting recommendation - he gets affiliate payments when you sign up. He would not be a good marketer if he DIDNT.

I played with the site builder a bit - and guess what - it WORKED with my own hosting account.

I def recommend using your OWN site instead of the free sub-domains they offer. I also recommend re-writing/spinning your content so it's UNIQUE CONTENT - that will give you an edge over the people who do not.

But seriously, just because he's MARKETING to you - dont complain - LEARN from what he's doing and apply that to your own marketing

Seriously, this is a GREAT product for NEWBIES to IM - I give it 2 thumbs up and have no regrets putting my recommendation on it.

Hit me up via PM if you have any specific questions about the course or anything

Jeff Lenney

Thecostofexperience 19th March 2013 06:56 PM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eljeffe77 (Post 7875885)
I don't see how this is called a scam?

Honestly - the info and product is GREAT for IM newbies. I've had BRAND NEW IM'ers sign up for this under my affiliate link and they LOVE it

They get a site builder
They get to learn about profitable niches
They get to learn the BASICS of IM in both Video and PDF form

No this is not going to make you rich over night - HOWEVER it's going to give you a great foundation in IM.

Yes, of course Aniks' going to recommend you get his hosting recommendation - he gets affiliate payments when you sign up. He would not be a good marketer if he DIDNT.

I played with the site builder a bit - and guess what - it WORKED with my own hosting account.

I def recommend using your OWN site instead of the free sub-domains they offer. I also recommend re-writing/spinning your content so it's UNIQUE CONTENT - that will give you an edge over the people who do not.

But seriously, just because he's MARKETING to you - dont complain - LEARN from what he's doing and apply that to your own marketing

Seriously, this is a GREAT product for NEWBIES to IM - I give it 2 thumbs up and have no regrets putting my recommendation on it.

Hit me up via PM if you have any specific questions about the course or anything

Jeff Lenney

Sorry Jeff. I've had a similar experience as the above poster when purchasing IM products from Anik. Specifically, the MWA 2.0 membership.

Now that I look back, the information up there was easily found on google.. and some of it contained alot of empty promises. (except your CPA videos, those were great) But I wont get into that.

What upset me the most is the fact that I was looking to learn specifically FROM ANIK. When I watched the videos Anik was nowhere to be found. It was all his staff.
Actually you were the mentor in some of those videos :p..

I don't mean to bash Anik's stuff.. But I do feel I was misled.

Mountainbird 21st March 2013 05:06 PM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
It seems to be quite similar to Above The Social Matrix from Bill McRea?

But IM Target seems to be newer.

Mountainbird 21st March 2013 05:12 PM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TrafficBot (Post 7872648)
I was an affiliate for IM lobby. Had a high ranking video on youtube for IM lobby. Lots of signups but never made a dime from his affiliate program, ever which was cpa. His affiliate back office was such a joke. Can you imagine how he treated his customers. Could never figure out why. Clickbank dumped him and Clicksure didn't want anything to do with him. I really don't think he cares about customers or affiliates. He creates his own affiliate platforms so shaving and scrubbing is his mantra . IMO, he is the consummate scammer both for affiliates and customers, period.

Thanks a lot for telling your experiences. I was just about to become an affiliate for him.

AnikSingal 22nd March 2013 11:08 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TrafficBot (Post 7872648)
I was an affiliate for IM lobby. Had a high ranking video on youtube for IM lobby. Lots of signups but never made a dime from his affiliate program, ever which was cpa. His affiliate back office was such a joke. Can you imagine how he treated his customers. Could never figure out why. Clickbank dumped him and Clicksure didn't want anything to do with him. I really don't think he cares about customers or affiliates. He creates his own affiliate platforms so shaving and scrubbing is his mantra . IMO, he is the consummate scammer both for affiliates and customers, period.


WHoAH- Now .. WOW!!

Though I usually don't comment at direct attacks at me, I'm going to comment on this one.

Clickbank DID NOT shut me down. ( We still have many products in different niches on there!)

Clicksure DID NOT deny me. (We chose to stay away from them)

We're not shaving or scrubbing, we paid over $1.8Million dollars with IMlobby via CPA last year.

We're in a INC500 company - we don't do "shady" things within our company and for you to come after us is a pretty downright dirty.

If you have something to say, why wouldn't you directly email me or contact me? Instead you come here to air out your fustrations?

Show me your imlobby video you made on youtube- I'd love to see it so I can tell you WHY you probably didn't get any sales with it.

Johnc1 24th March 2013 04:16 PM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Ok Anik,

Despite having signed up for IMTarget I have a far more attractive suggestion. Let me know how to reach you. Step 1) I'll give you my linkedin info so you can see I'm for real. 2) I'll show you how you can hook up with a nationally known celebrity who will JV with us and who is at the top of the food chain in the start-up/entrepreneur biz, 3) we'll split profits with you year 1 down the middle. Your call but we have been anxious to get into the affiliate game for some time and perhaps this interests you.

Must be a private conversation. Let me know how best to do so.

J

gforces 25th March 2013 06:18 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marian (Post 7849497)
Why to cover their cost for the India trip? Why wouldn't they launch those hot niche sites in hundreds to cover the expense?

Marian

Haha.... exactly. Man it's one of those video sales letters again, "Everyone else is lying to you but we are telling you the truth. We are your internet marketing saviours!"

Mountainbird 25th March 2013 06:46 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gforces (Post 7896259)
Man it's one of those video sales letters again, "Everyone else is lying to you but we are telling you the truth. We are your internet marketing saviours!"

Exactly! It's always the same s.... :eek:

blueston 27th March 2013 09:49 PM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
I didn't buy IM Target, but I have bought his MWA2.0 and The Insider Club. I can't say anything about IM Target, but I was very disappointed with his MWA2.0 and The Insider Club. He had explained how to use email marketing, social marketing to drive traffic and make money expect to teach you exactly "how". You could say he is teaching concept instead of method, but those concept are easy to find from forums and other resources.

The last straw of making me unsubscribed from his list was all the emails I got from him was a promotion of another product. I almost got an promotion every 2 days.

How can people who are making money from teaching people how to make money have time to actually implement his method? When you see a marketer keeps launching IM product, how does he have time to actually upgrade his method and knowledge?

yeligaysom 5th April 2013 09:03 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by haslow (Post 7854293)
If anyone is familiar with IMLobby this seems to be an identical product, only the wordpress page layout has changed. The youtube videos used on IMTarget even say IMLobby on them.
This is a complete beginners program for someone interested in internet marketing but just crawled out from under a rock. It is extremely ground floor basic starting with what type of chair to sit in, external drives for back-up etc.

IMTarget (like all of Anik's products as well as many other IMers) has your initial cost which is discounted $10 if you back out the first time, this brings the program to $37.
The there are 3 upsells after they secure your $37 payment. $199, $177, and I think another $197 all which are discounted $100 each if you back out. I did not go for the upsells.
You then register your ID and password and are in the program. Anik is using a wordpress Karma theme template for the entire production of IMTarget. The entire IMTarget program which is entirely accessed through the webserver had no download to your computer and it is identical to IMLobby which was launched about a year ago, the only change is in the wordpress template used.

The initial task which is step 1 is to watch the into video where Anik welcoms you and that is just about the last you see of him. All other videos are done by his staff who unfortunately have a heavy indian accent and are at times hard to understand.

Step 2 has you imediately chosing a domain name using Anik's hosting which is Hostzilla (No choice here). This is a smart tacktic Anik uses to reel in extreme newbies to quickly buy a domain and use Hostzilla at a hidden cost to you when you need to pay for the domain name and hosting service. He gets newbies on this step early almost making it seem mandatory before they realize this step is not necessary and can be done at a later time with your own domain registar and hosting service of your choice.
The following steps are short YouTube videos with basic information explaining things like what are keywords, what is SEO, what is affiliate marketing, facebook etc, very basic. A great deal of information is all text.

The videos are horribly produced and I am so surprised this came from Anik's company. They are almost unable to be understood with the heavy indian accent and the audio recorded in what sounds like a bathroom, lots of echo.

I am dissapointed at this product as it seems to have been put together in no more that 2 days (No joke, when using wordpress it is very easy). Very poor quality with what just seems to be a trap to get you to purchase upsells and services. On the other hand Anik seems to spend most of his time, effort and money on the promo videos to sell the program. He is such a great motivator and clear speaker getting you to really believe this is finally the program that has it all. That is where Anik's efforts end and his staff of all Indian step in. Forgive me I an in no way racist but to me this reminds me of being transfered to an offshore customer support center when trying to get technical help for a product. I am sure many (from USA) have had that type of experience. I am sure this is not a problem to understand in India but I really feel Anik should be the one on the videos since he speaks perfect english or he at least should have got someone with clear english speaking abilities.

On the positive side it does have information which can be usefull to a complete extreme newbie with absolutly no idea about anything related to Internet Marketing.

On the downside, which is huge, I can only see that it can harm a newbie by not letting them find out how to do the processes on their own like how to see the many resorces for buying a domain name, hosting service, etc. This is part of learning the business that should be learned by discovery.

Anyone can get everything this program offers (seriously) by just using google, and it will be much more benificial to do it that way. Not to mention and FREE!

I would not recommend this product to anyone as I would tell them to just do the leg work themselvs and google what the need to find out, they will have so much more choices and information with different view points and ideas and the knowledge gained of how to go about the process.

Like I said I am dissapointed in the value of content and quality of IMTarget. I will be requesting a refund as it is of no value to me at all. I was really hoping Anik had something here that I could use, and I am not what I would call a experienced IMer at all, but it really does not have anything I can use.

I must say I am depressed over this now and am losing faith in just about all of these offered programs not only by Anik but just about by every so called guru that puts one of these out. There really is no silver bullet. It is all in your effort and persistance.

If there are any typo's please excuse them as I just wanted to quickly express my findings on this program.

Take care,
Haslow:o

A really good review. I really do not understand people hiding their OTO's and Upsells. Not only that many times people hide the other expenses that are really required.
I wish these marketing GURU's disclose everything in detail so that people can decide whether to buy their products or not?

danny12592 7th April 2013 07:24 PM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
I started to watch the video but once he kept going on and on about all his supposed commissions and then had the b*lls to say this is a no hype zone... i tuned out.

James Campbell 7th April 2013 11:48 PM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yeligaysom (Post 7938653)
A really good review. I really do not understand people hiding their OTO's and Upsells. Not only that many times people hide the other expenses that are really required.
I wish these marketing GURU's disclose everything in detail so that people can decide whether to buy their products or not?

Upsells are for people who are customers ONLY and it is structured that way for a reason. There is nothing wrong with upsells/otos, nothing unethical about them, etc...

So many people wanting to get into marketing that seem to actually hate optimized sales techniques and marketing. Very strange.

tulsatech 8th April 2013 09:11 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
I asked this question in another thread concerning this product, but wanted to also ask it here. Since this product basically creates identical websites for each person who bought Anik's product, I'm wondering how this will affect their affilate sales?

For instance, in the "Get Your Ex Back" niche, will everyone's automatically created website have the exact same content? If so, how does this affect one's Google rankings?

Many of the niches I saw in Anik's sales video were fairly well-known and are already pretty much saturated with would-be internet marketers. How can a "newbie" expect to make any money from these niches when more established IMs are already in those niches?

The competition in these niches are already pretty fierce. Again, how is a "newbie" going to even stand a chance?

robin41 8th April 2013 09:49 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Campbell (Post 7947994)
Upsells are for people who are customers ONLY and it is structured that way for a reason. There is nothing wrong with upsells/otos, nothing unethical about them, etc...

So many people wanting to get into marketing that seem to actually hate optimized sales techniques and marketing. Very strange.

There's nothing wrong with upsells/otos. Wrong is why they are hidden.
The reason is often being afraid not to make even the first sale.
Some let you know in the Q&A about upsells and otos and I am sure you that is the way it should be for all.

robin41 8th April 2013 10:03 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lordkensal (Post 7845406)
Any chatter on this. Big launch this week, so a lot of emails going about.
I have done a review - (if anyone is interested). Just wondered what other people think of it. Surprised there was no thread for it.
So let me start one!:D

In his movie I think he says 92,000 of his students made 40 million in one year. But thats about 434.00 each.....

haslow 14th April 2013 04:14 AM

Re: IM Target - from Anik Singal
 
Wow, well I have not visited this forum in awhile. Anyway, just a follow-up on my post and a few additional comments on few posts I read here.

It has been exactly 30 days since I had joined ImTarget and boy is it great!.......NOT. I stand by everything I had said in my earlier post. I did file for refund yesterday even though I had 30 more days to test it out. I wanted to really give the program a fair trial from my first review and sit in for the webinars. It was just not worth my time anymore to waste on this ImTarget.

I can see why Lenny has commented on this thread as a advocate for ImTarget since he hosts some of the webinars. The other host is a Indian guy Ribotan or Riboflavin something like that. The webinars are really just Lenny or the Ribo guy going through the program. I find this redundant because ImTarget members can do it themselves. What I find the webinars are is just a way to try to get a plug for something else to sell as there are always sales pitches for something different in each webinar. Ribo is the main guy, Lenny steps in once in awhile and Anik is nowhere to be found......Oh yeah, Anik did make a webinar to sell a different program a couple of weeks ago.

Referencing a post by James Campbell: "Upsells are for people who are customers ONLY and it is structured that way for a reason. There is nothing wrong with upsells/otos, nothing unethical about them, etc...
So many people wanting to get into marketing that seem to actually hate optimized sales techniques and marketing. Very strange."

As far as OTO's (one time offer) go: Upsells are fine James as long as there is some mention of them before you had paid so the buyer can make the decision if this is a program they want to get involved with. ImTarget has no mention of the "OTO's" which are NOT OTO's. Once inside as a member you can go to upgrades and get them there. The videos presented after you pay for the basic membership clearly state this is not available again it is only offered now and Anik tries to make you feel like your a idiot if you don't get the upsell. What BS that is. That is outright dishonest and trying to get desperate inexperienced people to buy the so called oto's.

Jeff Lenny, I feel you are not interested in anything other than lining your pockets with the green and wish you would really stay out of this forum. This is a area for uninformed people trying to get honest advice. You will sell anything you can get your hands on and I am not saying this is wrong, but this is not the place for you. Go play with the Hempower Network boys you so dearly support, that is your kind of home (very unethical). You are a very successful but I feel unethical IMer. Your advice for the newbies to go buy has one interest to you and that is your monetary gain. Maybe you are pissed because you got taken on a lot of worthless products when you first started or just plain don't give a rats ass, either way let the newbies have a place they can get real advice without the experienced hunters like you misleading them.

Anik, I am disappointed in you. I believe you have been consumed by the greed monster and dedicate your efforts creating marketing ideas, making fantastic sales promo videos, and convincing the viewers to buy. You are a great motivational presenter. Unfortunately your programs are of little or no value. I can say your last true effort was "Marketing with Anik2.0" which is outdated now and I can't believe you are still selling it and not supporting it. Should you involve yourself in the actual production and support of your programs maybe (and that is a big maybe) they might be better, but just outsourcing them to your staff to develop and support is wrong. We expect to be taught by you, but of course, you don't have time for that. You should not ask for anyone to contact you privately to discuss any matter, this is the forum and all should be witness to what transpires. Man-up Anik.

There is another thread on ImTarget worth a look. Here is the link:
http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...-so-happy.html


I was very reluctant to put this next part in but what the heck...

There are really only 2 kinds of IMers (Internet Marketers) affiliate marketers and non-affiliate marketers (coaching, web design, SEO servicer, etc). Some marketers are strictly affiliate (Jon Penberthy), others are strictly non-affiliate (Greg Morrison, Joe Reinbold), and a good majority are both (Jeff Lenny, Anik Singal, Mike Long).

Under the Affiliate marketer there are 2 classes: Ethical and unethical.

Class 1) The ethical affiliate marketer:

The ethical affiliate marketer will only provide honest advice and/or recommendations on what they have tried or truly believe has value derived from experience and/or research. They know the product they are promoting and have first hand knowledge of it's performance. Viewers judge their decision to purchase based on their findings and then in turn they are rewarded for their efforts in providing this information via affiliate commissions when a buyer purchases through their link.

Class 2) The unethical affiliate marketer:

The unethical affiliate marketer will sell top commission products or sometime anything just to make a buck. They will get fake testimonials, (which are easy to do through fiverr), speak glowingly of the product and try to convince you to buy. They will do everything in their power to try to get your money. They don't care about the product and many times have no idea what the product is about. Their main goal is to get your money and will say anything to get it.

The Non-affiliate marketer:

The Non-affiliate marketer is anyone who coaches, web designs, service provider etc. Now these too can be ethical or unethical but the unethical are not so common with the exception of internet marketing programs for sale (ImTarget) which the program inception almost always started with coaching.

In my experience every IM program I have come across has had more effort put into the promo and launch of the product with the actual product having little to no value. It seems everyone thinks they can give someone else a little advice (good or bad) and whala they are a coach! Then their next step is to package some software and sell it as the greatest program ever released to the public with never before know secrets.

Newbies, just stop buying that digital trash. There is no sure fire get rich quick way on the internet, it does not exist. Like everything in life you get out what you put in. If you keep looking for a quick cash way then that is all you will ever do. Stop it and get to work or settle for working for someone else. You need to learn the ropes and do things yourself. You will need to take the time to become familiar and comfortable and have self discipline and persistence. If you are not self disciplined and always need to have someone on your back telling you what to do then internet marketing is not for you. Don't feel bad, this is just not everyone's thing, just like I don't cut my own hair or do my own dentistry work.

Do you really think Anik Singal, Jeff Lenny and many others out there now selling programs on the internet on how to make money on the internet started with a program like they sell on how to make money on the internet? They state in many webinars, emails, post how they started the hard way and learned it all in the trenches, well yes that is the way it must be. Just stop buying these worthless programs that are letting you know what is possible but not teaching you how to really do it.

If you really want this to work but still need help and have been depressed by the garbage programs out there, you could try to get a coach but many times they are expensive and are not at your beckon call and it is a coin flip if your coach is good or bad. If you have a friend or family member that can join you in this quest you will be more likely to follow through.

Internet marketing needs to be something you really love and enjoy, that you don't mind spending 12 hours a day doing it. If it is something you love it will be something you want to do all the time. There is no working for 2 hours a week or even a day and relaxing in a hammock in Thailand the rest of the time. You will need to put work into it but it should be natural to you. If it is not and you think you are going to work an hour or two a day and that's it, well this is not the career for you. If it is something you love then you will find the joy of working for yourself and having no boss to answer to or going to brown nosing meetings and all of that corporate crap. Don't feel bad if you do not find your heart is in this business it is not the catch all business for everyone. It is a job just like all other jobs. The only drawback for beginners to this business is the misleading information that is on the internet about this business and the hunters who are looking for newbies to prey on to get your money promising you the short cut fast road if you pay them. There is no short cut, really there is not. You need to work long hours but if you love it, it will be a joy to you. Give it a try and see what happens but the work is also in finding the correct way to do things. I have struggled and am glad I did because I learned more form doing things myself that any program could teach. Struggle for a while, don't buy anything other than needs like a domain name, hosting, things like that, yes you will make mistakes, a stupid domain name, bad hosting plan but the experience you gained in performing the task is where the learning is. Next time you will do better. This Warrior forum is a great place to get information but be weary when you start to see mixed reviews on anything and make your best educated decision.


I am going to reluctantly disclose the following due to I feel it is somewhat in contrast to my post. Make it clear that I am in no way gaining any benefits for disclosing this information. I wanted to stay clear of recommending anyone but as I was writing this post I felt this was something I should share.

In my own struggles with internet marketing I obtained my share of no value programs and spent countless hours on no value webinars all in the efforts to gain knowledge. Through it all there was one program that stood out from the rest and I have never recommended anything before. I first became familiar with a program called OMG Machines late last year. I found much information in the program and I can say I was a bit overwhelmed being a newbie. I also found the structure to be a bit confusing but really liked the way the two guys Mike Long and Greg Morrison explained the tasks they were teaching and the way they stand behind the product. I still think this is slightly to advanced for a extreme newbie but workable. Don't worry confusion and uncertainty means you need to learn something and have room to grow, it is a good thing. If you were able to comprehend everything why would you need it? So I worked a little with OMG and did not put real effort into it as I was doing other programs at the same time. I did attend every webinar called "Webbys" and found them to be full of nuts and bolts valuable information. Then a updated program was released called OMG commission conspiracy. This program has all the elements of OMG machines but it's structure is very flowing. The information is strict nuts and bolts and you get walked through all steps in a variety of subjects. This what I wish I had found from the start but just glad I got it now. I deleted all my other accounts and unsubscribe to all other lists I was on because after 6 months of training in a variety of programs OMG is the only one that delivered. OMG CC comes in 2 parts, I don't know why this is in 2 parts but you really need both. I guess it makes it easier for some to purchase part 1 then when they have the cash to get part 2. There are no upsells other than mention of a advanced training program NHB which is for me costly but man, just go to the review on this NHB program, it is unbelievable. I have made arrangements to get the cash to finance NHB and I have never joined anything expensive like this before. I recommend to get involved with OMG machines or OMG commission conspiracy and you will sell yourself to join NHB. If you don't then you really have a cash problem which is truly understandable or your heart is not in internet marketing. OMG is for all internet marketing types affiliate and non. I really have nothing other than true admiration for the two guys Mike Long and Greg Morrison of OMG Machines. They are honest and really hard working. No hammock swinging for these guys. It is the next best thing to having a well informed live-in coach. You can Google OMG machines and I do believe they have a thread on this forum which you can read what others are saying about the program.

I probably will not get to post like this for a while and hope it was worth your time to read.

Take care, good luck and thanks for reading,
- Haslow:)

Mountainbird 14th April 2013 05:02 AM

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Wow, what a great and honest post.

Thanks a lot!

:)

RevBaty 19th April 2013 01:55 PM

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Great response Anik.

Can you explain why so much is being resold - cleverly disguised in my experience - under other names?

For instance this month I have been charged $97 for something that I had already although the marketing material differed.

It seems I am to get no refund either.

Is this really the ethical kind of procedure we all want to advocate?

foomenow 25th April 2013 10:37 AM

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Based on the review's I will not optin!

twocolor 28th April 2013 11:33 AM

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A word to the WISE especially NEWBIES!..

Set up a word press blog...place an opt in form using Aweber or one of the others...I happen to prefer Aweber and offer something of value for free. I have failed and learned that without doing this and building relationships with a great series of value filled emails you will not build on a strong foundation! Create your own sales funnel...do not sell initially. After a few emails then you start plugging in links with offers. Perhaps I have not been as clear or "fluffy" as some with this post but the point is to start building "YOUR" list with your own .COM and not a "sub-domain" that is creating traffic for others! Obviously there is a lot more to it than this but I hope I made a point. BTW...I recommend hostgator.

Brand yourself! Be YOU..be UNIQUE!

I wish you great SUCCESS...GOD Bless and remember to Expect Miracles!

Sonia

P.S. I have fallen for too many scams and believed the "false" promises. Please understand that I am not stating that the program discussed is not good. It is not for me as I do not go for all the crazy..ongoing up sells etc. I passionately dislike videos that you cannot stop! As for duplicate websites...that's another story!!

Cheers!!

AnikSingal 3rd May 2013 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bouncer1969 (Post 8007950)
Yeh! Great response Anik its a shame IM Target customer support isn't as quick as you, after sending countless emials, sub tickets, live chat, phone calls not once did anyone contact me at all [Im Target is a joke] and dont think it was my email program had it checked thoroughly but I will tell you this if I do not get a response from a member of staff from your company I will hound you with so many neg reviews and videos your need to change your name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so angry right now!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: even if i wanted a refund i couldn't get one. and one more thing isn't it a shame this is my first ever post on the warrior forum.

LOL - You called during our business hours and didn't get anyone?

Our support takes 24-48 hours- it says it right in the system.

And if you send multiple tickets at once that say "how do you make money" .. We simply don't put you in priority to those who have questions pertaining to the system.

Here's my challenge RIGHT BACK at you.

What did you do? Did you go through all the training? chances are you didn't.

We tell you RIGHT IN THE FRONT- the software is designed to help you, not DO THE WORK for you.

Anyone in warrior forum knows- money doesn't grow on trees. You still have to work for it. I am providing you with the TOOLS and the KNOWLEDGE for you get on the right path.

With that said - good luck.

govomg 12th May 2013 01:45 AM

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WOW I was almost sold on the flashy promo video, glad I checked in here first ,thanks for the reviews, sure saved me the money anf grief. Cheers Mark

l23bc 12th May 2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AnikSingal (Post 8040630)
LOL - You called during our business hours and didn't get anyone?

Our support takes 24-48 hours- it says it right in the system.

And if you send multiple tickets at once that say "how do you make money" .. We simply don't put you in priority to those who have questions pertaining to the system.

Here's my challenge RIGHT BACK at you.

What did you do? Did you go through all the training? chances are you didn't.

We tell you RIGHT IN THE FRONT- the software is designed to help you, not DO THE WORK for you.

Anyone in warrior forum knows- money doesn't grow on trees. You still have to work for it. I am providing you with the TOOLS and the KNOWLEDGE for you get on the right path.

With that said - good luck.

No bash intended anik But i got this email a short while ago for this and was interested in this system but From reading them comments back i think i will pass because i dont feel confident in your replies here, Its great system and hope you do well with it

andy

Jamie Lewis 12th May 2013 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by haslow (Post 7971440)
That is where Anik's efforts end and his staff of all Indian step in. Forgive me I an in no way racist but to me this reminds me of being transfered to an offshore customer support center when trying to get technical help for a product. I am sure many (from USA) have had that type of experience. I am sure this is not a problem to understand in India but I really feel Anik should be the one on the videos since he speaks perfect english or he at least should have got someone with clear english speaking abilities.

Quote:

Originally Posted by haslow (Post 7971440)
I can see why Lenny has commented on this thread as a advocate for ImTarget since he hosts some of the webinars. The other host is a Indian guy Ribotan or Riboflavin something like that. The webinars are really just Lenny or the Ribo guy going through the program. I find this redundant because ImTarget members can do it themselves. What I find the webinars are is just a way to try to get a plug for something else to sell as there are always sales pitches for something different in each webinar. Ribo is the main guy, Lenny steps in once in awhile and Anik is nowhere to be found......Oh yeah, Anik did make a webinar to sell a different program a couple of weeks ago.



The more money you show yourself making in a video, the bigger the storm of hatred.

The work you do could be ten times better than someone else's, the same price but it doesn't matter.

That other book, may deliver the same exact value minus the Lamborghini and or claims of immense profits and you are "ethical."

Only instead, there will be 10 times as much skepticism and disinterest from visitors, not customers, and the author will most likely be accused of "not providing enough proof."

His sales will be non-existent, because the customer demands not an absence of upsells, or training videos done by a white American but proof that they will be learning from someone who is qualified to teach and not a fake.

Yes it is frustrating being told you fake actual screenshots of your Clickbank account when you didn't.

True story:

Now I supposedly rented my AMG, Aston Martin and Mansion as well according to some, only in real life I purchased them before I taught IM.

and I am asked to explain where I get all this traffic from.

So I show you my collection of youtube accounts with almost 100,000,000 views in my presentation.

I show off my flippa account with $500,000 in sales.

Soon after, my youtube account is spammed and attacked by those that asked me to include the story and the name of the account in my video.

I thought I was asked where I made the money and to do a "non-blind" sales video.

Well, Ill never do that again. I will NEVER put my actual techniques in a sales video ever again and I do not recommend it to others.

A fake will have a hard time selling his book in the IM niche. When you first start, you sell musical instruments via an affiliate program, Rap beats, or even Parrot Training, like I did at $0.10 a click.

You do not start out in the IM niche at $3.00 a click.

How do I know this? I tried. In 2004 I tried to promote IM. It's like giving a 5 year old kid a 150 Lb cross bow.

So what this means is that you can learn a great deal from someone who has enough skill to compete in a monster niche. That is hard to do. I can speak for myself that I want to make things easy for people without as much experience or without a list, etc, therefore I do not recommend this level of student teaching IM obviously.

It is not a coincidence that everyone who wants an author's head on a plate happened to buy after watching a video that shows amazing success.

And the books and videos that are done by fakes that had no real success, have no success to show. If you write a book or create a video training series and you aren't confident in your ability to really help people then maybe you shouldn't write the book in the first place.

How do I know this? Because my own videos have fancy cars and money raining from the sky as well.

Now everyone knows me here, that I am real and only do IM because I enjoy teaching it and pay for the servers and resources, but you need to remember alot of people do not know me, and I receive the same exact reaction from visitors who watch my sales video, assuming my cars are rented and I am fake.

Thats all it is. It is an assumption that I didn't generate millions of dollars with my music and selling music related products, and my money comes only from teaching IM.

See, it is entirely ethical for me to tell the truth. And it is wise for me to be an "open book" and just because there are a few fakes out there shouldn't mean all authors crawl into a hole in defeat.

If I were to make a sales video where I leave out all of my success I would be lying to you.

The truth is, it is extremely easy to buy a keyword domain name and sell it for at least twice the price very quickly.

It is very easy to make 20 adgroups, each for a different product, run the campaign for 24 hours, double your money and turn it off, start a new one for fresh traffic.

And it's not that you can't find information like this on Youtube for free, or on a Marketing forum, but you will run into two problems:

1. You will spend most of your time trying to find a good video and ultimately wasting alot of your time

2. Alot of the advice is very bad, done by newbies themselves and will ruin you.

So what I have found in my 8 years of marketing, 3 years of which teaching it..

Human beings develop jealous feelings for those who have achieved success.

That is human nature.

And when those same people believe the author obtained those results unethically and did so only working in the BizOpp niche, then that jealousy turns to Anger.

But that is not a genuine anger because it stems from an assumption, not a fact.

The one who becomes angry from a belief that the author obtained his wealth unethically, and without proof that he or she worked in other niches before teaching it, is angry at themselves as well.

If they were really angry at the author, they would confront the author in person.

But you don't.

You know where the author will speak, or where he or she will be on stage, or just hanging out at a convention center, but you are not entirely sure that they did you wrong or how to present your case.

In the back of your mind you will try your best and then your best just doesn't make sense.

But yes, the orgy of hate was so yesterday.

We already established that this set of beliefs are bogus:

*The author only sells books on MMO, and never sold anything else.
*The books are poor quality because the author is not an experienced person.
*There are upsells that allow the main product to work.

I believe in the case of this very successful Indian man, who I myself envy because he has hair, we are seeing a different pattern. This is a pattern that does not include any of these very slanderous, accusatory statements and/or assumptions and beliefs.

Instead, the overall charge is that he is Indian, not a white American, has upsells (That somehow incite the argument whether he is ethical or not) and does not respond to emails.

These charges are very telling of the consumer base that this young indian fellow is marketing to. The problem may not be with the Indian, rather this chain reaction of events!

Because in reality, the price of his material, when compared to other Intellectual property in Barnes & Noble or Amazon, is not much different.

The problem is clearly that faith is lost, through the checkout process purchasing the product similar to the automatic "check out yourself" lines at the grocery store. "Put your item back on the belt."

You are checking out yourself, in a "store" you are not familiar with.

And this explains why no one ever goes into detail regarding what actually went wrong when you USED the product. You didn't ever take a bite and taste the sandwich.

Try being a teacher of this stuff. With 500 brand new students that you actually talk with online, in the webinars, live.

Follow through by students in this market is not as good as if I was paying you myself as most are taught to work for an employer and to only perform and exert energy under exclusive situations, such as employment.

Entrepreneurism is not taught in public school. If it was, I would sell a heck of alot more books I'll tell you that! ..since visitors would understand the concept, and threads like this probably wouldn't exist.

So naturally, when a student purchases a course, they expect it to be done for them, as if they have exclusively employed the teacher. Alot of people will expect it done for them even after the initial steps are actually done for them, in front of their very eyes; so that they can copy what they just saw happen.

You need to take it into your own hands.

Yes, people do not believe you can run your own business in the first place, Or, "you can but it's hard work."

Everything in life is hard work. Compared to life, this is not hard.

So the presentation in this niche is supposed to be an incredibly eye opening and exciting thing to watch.

And with that being said, I believe based on my own experience and a repeating pattern within this community, that the catalyst for the beautiful orgy of non-achievement in this thread clearly stems from the author's presentation of success achieving an INC500 Status and unfortunately..

a brother got it bad cause he's brown.

Kamikazee 31st May 2013 09:16 PM

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So sick of all these videos where they take 30 min to show you a 5 min process.

Then when it finally get to those "3 simple steps" its always something dumb like

1. Make a bunch of money
2. Keep making a bunch of money
3. Buy this from me.

I didn't even make it through the whole video. It's like allllll the others out there. 20 min of Hype in a 'no hype' vid just screams BS.

Kamikazee 31st May 2013 09:25 PM

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I'm also going to go out on a limb here and say there are a few OTO and upsells to "make the product work for you"

Tell me, when you buy a car do you buy it without working headlights, or a gas tank, or even a steering wheel?

But we have no problem buying a half finished product.

I tell ya once you see past the smoke and mirrors, it all looks like Hollywood. Great on the strip, but 3 blocks over, reality starts to set in, LMAO

Greg guitar 23rd June 2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by robin41 (Post 7949852)
In his movie I think he says 92,000 of his students made 40 million in one year. But thats about 434.00 each.....

True enough, but we all know that isn't how it works in life. Few people do anything at all with most of what they buy, a few more take a step or 2, make a few bucks, and then stop, and a tiny number really work it with a sustained effort, learning and growing and adjusting their approach as needed to maximize results, and they are the ones who likely are making the bulk of that money, assuming the numbers are for real.

I couldn't agree more with what Jeff said above about customization, and this is where I think Anik is being a little inaccurate with the claim that you can create a real business in 5 minutes. I don't believe it will be a real business, at least, not a very successful one, if it is a cookie cutter site hundreds or thousands of other have, and knowing as we do that people are lazy, most will leave it as is, so saturation is assured.

I imagine Anik does have successful students, but if so, no doubt they are the ones who go the extra mile we know very few will go, no matter how good or compelling the program.

From time to time I run across people commenting that if you have a course or program teaching people IM, and 90 something percent have no success, you should be ashamed of yourself, or something to that effect. That is totally wrong, and ultimately a very disempowering mindset, since it places responsibility for the individual's success on the teacher, not the student, rendering the student helpless to take corrective measures if things don't work out at first.

The big red flag about this program in my opinion, is the fact that it is promoting the "grow taller" niche, which all but the most desperate or gullible people know will never work, and will just leave buyers poorer, heartbroken, and still needing to learn to make peace with their physical stature. If you're willing to promote that, you're just a flat out unethical scammer who would be denied a business license were justice to prevail.

movemaker 23rd June 2013 12:25 PM

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Yet another mass marketed product geared towards get rick quicker's who don't understand that this stuff takes work.

A few years ago I fell for that stuff. Now I disregard it as if it doesn't even exist.

Greg guitar 23rd June 2013 02:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamie Lewis (Post 8069503)

His sales will be non-existent, because the customer demands not an absence of upsells, or training videos done by a white American but proof that they will be learning from someone who is qualified to teach and not a fake.

I believe in the case of this very successful Indian man, who I myself envy because he has hair, we are seeing a different pattern. This is a pattern that does not include any of these very slanderous, accusatory statements and/or assumptions and beliefs.

Instead, the overall charge is that he is Indian, not a white American, has upsells (That somehow incite the argument whether he is ethical or not) and does not respond to emails.

These charges are very telling of the consumer base that this young indian fellow is marketing to. The problem may not be with the Indian, rather this chain reaction of events!

a brother got it bad cause he's brown.

I edited out most of your post and bolded and underlined your remarks on race, because I only wanted to respond to your emphasis of it, and your implication that other reviewers' negative comments were fueled by racism.

For the record, I think the rest of your post was very good, and I agree with much of what you said; people assume too much and call people scammers when they only suspect it without any concrete evidence.

But what did I miss, because I didn't see a single comment complaining about anyone not being white, nor demanding to be taught only by white Americans, nor only by people from any specific country? I read all the comments above yours; possibly some were removed, so maybe one that was removed justified your implication that other reviewers are racists.

If you're talking about the people who complained that the videos were recorded by people from India whose English they could barely understand, I must vociferously disagree that the comments were racist.

One of those who objected to the difficulty of understanding the speakers, even expressed a wish that Anik, who as you pointed out repeatedly, is an Indian man himself, had personally done the videos because he speaks perfect English. Obviously that person has no problem learning from Indians; but wants to be able to easily understand what is being said; doesn't everyone?

I hate racism, and speak against it every time I see it, which is often, but not on the Warrior Forum (not saying there is no racism here; just that if there is, it is pretty underground, to the point where I don't recall ever seeing a racist post).

Yet you might think I am a racist because I was ready to tear my hair out years ago when I bought my first and last Dell computer, tried to amend my order, and was put through 2 days of solid phone hell, partly due to the fact that nobody knew which department should deal with me, and kept bouncing me back and forth like a pinball, and partly due to the fact that everyone I spoke to was Sri Lankan or Indian, whose English was nearly impossible to understand, and who had trouble understanding me. It was so bad, a few sentences took a good 10-20 minutes of clarifications back and forth to understand.

Am I a racist for advising friends not to buy a Dell largely because of the outsourced support who were poorly trained and barely understandable English speakers? Not in my opinion. I have nothing against them or any other people on the basis of their country of origin, or their race, or language. I actually felt very bad for them too, because the laborious communications must have been terribly frustrating for them as it was for me.

What I have a problem with is the fact that a company I did business with (and I was locked in by the time I called), cared so little about their customers that they provided cheap support to save money, who were not ready to communicate effectively in my language; which is the language of the main market for their products.

I would like to request that you point it out in case I was careless and missed one or more racist remarks in the thread, because as far as I can see, you are the only one who mentioned Americans or whites.

I think it's grossly unfair to imply that anyone demanded to deal only with white Americans, if as I suspect, you're basing that purely on the fact that they complained about having to wade through videos recorded by Indian English speakers whom they could barely understand.

Some English accents are perhaps as difficult for Americans to understand, and I'm sure complaints would be generated by using them in teaching videos sold to the American audience as well. Would you accuse people of being ultru-nationalists for that?

A brother did not get it bad "cause he's brown"; a brown brother got it bad for not recording videos the audience could easily understand; his own voice would have been fine.

Jeff Lenney 23rd June 2013 02:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by haslow (Post 7971440)
I can see why Lenny has commented on this thread as a advocate for ImTarget since he hosts some of the webinars. The other host is a Indian guy Ribotan or Riboflavin something like that. The webinars are really just Lenny or the Ribo guy going through the program. I find this redundant because ImTarget members can do it themselves. What I find the webinars are is just a way to try to get a plug for something else to sell as there are always sales pitches for something different in each webinar. Ribo is the main guy, Lenny steps in once in awhile and Anik is nowhere to be found......Oh yeah, Anik did make a webinar to sell a different program a couple of weeks ago.

Just to start things off - I do NOT work for Anik, but I do do 2-3 webinars per month for the IM Target advanced VIP classes, and I do fill in on occasion for some of the main webinars as well. (I teach some of the very stuff I do myself to make money as an affiliate)

Anyways, having said that - Hey Haslow - all I'm sorry for takin 2 months to respond, I did not see this thread or blatant attacks on me until just now (By the way, It's Lenney - but it's ok, I'm used to the misspelling and won't hold it against you :) )

Anyways, there were only TWO Webinars where we talked people through the members area - 1 was by Ritoban I believe, there was a lot of demand for a second one - so I was asked to do ONE webinar walking people through the members area and explaining everything. Believe it or not, the comments and questions (live) on that one were GREAT.

A lot of people didn't understand the traffic modules, or how to find them. Many people were just building a ton of sites, and were curious why they weren't making money yet. Simply put, they never looked past the site builder into the training itself. I was able to better explain solo ads, and even guest posts - and people LOVED it. If you say that ALL of the webinars are like this, then I say you've only watched two of them and should give the rest of them a (first) look. :)

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Originally Posted by haslow (Post 7971440)
Jeff Lenny, I feel you are not interested in anything other than lining your pockets with the green and wish you would really stay out of this forum. This is a area for uninformed people trying to get honest advice. You will sell anything you can get your hands on and I am not saying this is wrong, but this is not the place for you. Go play with the Hempower Network boys you so dearly support, that is your kind of home (very unethical). You are a very successful but I feel unethical IMer. Your advice for the newbies to go buy has one interest to you and that is your monetary gain. Maybe you are pissed because you got taken on a lot of worthless products when you first started or just plain don't give a rats ass, either way let the newbies have a place they can get real advice without the experienced hunters like you misleading them.

Just curious, but do you know me or know anything about me? Google me, believe it or not - I'm one of the good guys. I got my start in the IM Scene 2-3 years ago with my former youtube channel "superhomebrewer" - I did honest reviews on products, pointed out the scams (with proof) and recommended LEGIT products that people could get started with. For some reason, that gave me a reputation as one of the good guys - go figure ;-)

As for the Empower Network? How is that unethical? (That's really a whole other discussion). Their products are good, I'm able to make posts on the blog and get them ranked on google VERY easily. I get a ton of traffic for anything I make posts about, AND the training in the Inner Circle, Costa and 15k products really ARE good - otherwise I would not recommend them. Shoot me a PM on here if you like, I"ll be happy to make you a quick video showing you the members area and the training. It's good, better than MOST WSOs or IM product I've seen. It's expensive because it's legit. $100 per month for the Inner Circle (over 100 hours of audio training), $500 one time for the Costa Rica Training (10-12 hours of video training, and $1k (one time) for the 15k formula training (over 40 HOURS of awesome im training). Nothing push button about it, it does take WORK to learn and implement their methods. The people I see failing at that either don't try, or simply expect the money to come flying in without applying what they learn (Ie: they don't try).

As for my selling ANYTHING - can you let me know please the last scammy IM product i've promoted please? I'd love to hear this, bc last I checked - I've always only promoted LEGIT products and methods that work, and people can have success with if they apply the methods and teachings they learn.

At any rate, I know this is not a thread about Jeff Lenney, but merely my involvement in some of the IM Target Webinars - but I saw it fit to respond regardless. Let me know if you have any specific questions about IM Target, or the Empower Network for what it's worth - and I'd love to see your list of scams I've promoted personally.

Oh, one last thing, what am I pissed about exactly? Yes, I spent money on scams in the beginning - but then I took that knowledge, started my youtube channel - and was able to educate a ton of people on both scams, and legit IM products. I've received MANY Emails and Messages from people stating that they got into IM because of me, or even made their first $10, $100 or $500 online because of me. Why would I be pissed or upset about that? I love helping people, I love hearing their success stories - and it upsets me to hear you flat out say otherwise.

At any rate, Thanks for your time - and enjoy the rest of the weekend. :)

Jamie Lewis 23rd June 2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg guitar (Post 8203584)
I edited out most of your post and bolded and underlined your remarks on race, because I only wanted to respond to your emphasis of it, and your implication that other reviewers' negative comments were fueled by racism.

I don't think Haslow is racist towards Anik, unlike many others for one reason.. His complaint was that he didn't get the Indian. So this shows he wanted the Indian but got the white guy instead hence his frustration.

gefflong 25th June 2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamikazee (Post 8131884)
I'm also going to go out on a limb here and say there are a few OTO and upsells to "make the product work for you"

Tell me, when you buy a car do you buy it without working headlights, or a gas tank, or even a steering wheel?

But we have no problem buying a half finished product.

I tell ya once you see past the smoke and mirrors, it all looks like Hollywood. Great on the strip, but 3 blocks over, reality starts to set in, LMAO

While I do agree with your previous post that the 30 minutes no-hype videos with 3 minutes of actual content are annoying... I do think your post comparing buying a car to OTO's is off the mark.

We don't buy a car without working headlights or a gas tank, or steering wheel. You get all those things when you buy a car. But you can't tell me they aren't pushing "luxury" items during or after the sale. Car mats, Steering Wheel covers, tinted windows, tires, the "towing package", heated seats, a sound system, a sun roof... the things go on and on and on.

There is nothing wrong with that. That is selling. That is upgrading something. In then end they are "luxury" items. Much like most things that are offered in the OTO.

If you don't take the OTO that offers the software with your purchase, you can still succeed. It may take longer or be a little more work, but you can still succeed. If you don't take the coaching OTO, you can still succeed. It may take a little longer and you may have questions on how to do something... but you can still use the product and succeed.

or you can equate it to the food world...

Try going to McDonalds or any other fast food joint and order just a sandwich. What happens? You hear some form of "Would you like fries with that?" "Would you like to make that a combo?"

You don't have to take the offer, Your sandwich will still be a sandwich all the same. You just may like yours by itself and someone else may enjoy it with fries to enhance the meal.

JB 26th June 2013 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by yeligaysom (Post 7938653)
A really good review. I really do not understand people hiding their OTO's and Upsells. Not only that many times people hide the other expenses that are really required.
I wish these marketing GURU's disclose everything in detail so that people can decide whether to buy their products or not?

The theory behind upsells and OTO's works in reality as a selling technique but I agree they are extremely annoying. I wonder how long they will continue in their present format eg sell a $7 product that promises to deliver everything only to be confronted with a $47 OTO that fills in the necessary parts of the puzzle, followed by a $197 turn key system that a few weeks later comes with a $1000 offer of amazing coaching with guaranteed $20,000pm revenues (with plenty of caveats in the small print of course). Oh yeah, then there are the 'webinars' with critically important training... these generally impart a few good ideas which transform into yet another pitch for an additional product at the end. Rule of thumb: Guru webinar = hardcore direct sales pitch for yet another product to get a hold of more of your money.

People seem to forget that these guys are only in this to make money. They make money through carefully crafted sales pitches which almost always far exceed the quality of the product. For the most parts, these products are built by a 3rd party who does a JV with the guru to access their list. Mostly, all the guru does is the sales pitch. The proof of this is in the constant barrage of new offers and 'ultimate solution' courses which seem to outdo the previous weeks offer.

Ask yourself this, why on earth would anyone share their 'secret method' with thousands of other people who will then take that information and increase competition in their supposedly successful or virgin market? The answer is that they are not operating in these markets in the first place. There is simply not enough time to make such fabulous earnings and then run full time promotion of these courses.

Unfortunately it takes going through a funnel a few times when starting out to recognise this. The good news for these 'gurus' is that they have an evergreen market of newbies who will dabble in their stuff before moving on. Long term relationships are not their concern, it's mostly snatch and grab. In my experience there are very few 'gurus' out there who actually put their products into use. For the most part, they are simply selling other peoples products and dressing it up with fantasy stories full of psychological manipulation. Not all of them are like this of course but the fact of the matter is, most are. The best thing you can learn from these guys is the importance of list building (the bigger the list the more profitable and numerous the JV offers) and how to craft an effective sales pitch.

amuro 26th June 2013 05:20 AM

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Though they provide ton of information and different niches for you to work and make money from, they do NOT have a step-by-step action plan.

For me, I have no problems going through and understanding them but to a complete newbie - who has never done IM before, all this information about niche marketing, social media, Warrior Forum Special etc could be overwhelming.

If I am Anik, I will certainly create one more course as free bonus specially for newbies with a 30 day step-by-step action plan which is so critical to our success.

This site is like an information exhibition hall with so many arrows pointing in different directions when all we need is just one arrow pointing and guiding us in the RIGHT direction.

DubDubDubDot 13th December 2013 06:34 PM

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It's been several months since this thread was started. How much are buyers of the product averaging per month?


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Originally Posted by Lyanna (Post 7859235)
The email claimed Anik made $50 million in 10 years from affiliate marketing. No proof.

That kind of activity leaves its mark. Evidence should be easy to spot with a little poking around. I assume it was an affiliate that made this claim and not Anik himself though. Affiliates tend to lie about a lot of things.

This article says Anik jumped from newbie to "guru"...
Affiliate Classroom - BusinessWeek


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