my top tier business, matt lloyd

Profile picture of the author macmani by macmani Posted: 06/02/2013
I got email today regarding matt lloyd's my top tier business. Anyone joined this and any feedback? It says its free but costs just 49 to join to keep tire tickers out and if selected, we pay nothing for this and there is a guarantee of 500 dollars if we dont make 1000 bucks in 30 days and follow a 21 step system. he says it costs 5000 as training and we get it free and need not pay it until we make 50,000? Any reviews guys, planning to join this.
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  • Profile picture of the author salamandar
    salamandar
    Hi, macmani,

    I joined 9 days ago, probably from the same mailing you received, and paid the $49. The trickled training that I took was pretty good and the future looked promising.

    Then, surprise!!!!! At around the end of the first week I was informed I had to buy a MOBE license for $1997 in order to continue.

    Somebody forgot to mention it in the advertising...

    I actually signed a non-disclosure agreement while I was digesting this new information. But I don't want eat into my monetary resources to the tune of $2K before I'm assured the products will sell.

    Those products seem to be good quality.

    It remains to be proven to me how many affiliates of the system can make a decent living, let alone driving around in their own Mercedes.

    But for now, I'm on the sidelines.

    Maurice
  • Profile picture of the author CtrlAltRage
    CtrlAltRage
    Heya Mac,

    I've recently become a Licensee of Matt Lloyd's and I can say that it DOES take some work to get it running.

    Coaching wise it's pretty solid but it is definitely focused around the MOBE series of products.

    If you have any questions regarding it, let me know I can answer any questions. Just shoot me a PM.
  • Profile picture of the author Cassano 10
    Cassano 10
    What is the MOBE licence?
  • Profile picture of the author getrichinfo
    getrichinfo
    I knew it! there is definitely a catch somewhere!
  • Profile picture of the author gilksy
    gilksy
    The MOBE Licence gives you the licence rights to sell the core MOBE products for 90% commission (ranging from $87 to $267) and re-sell the MOBE licence itself for 50% commission ($1K).

    Considering the time and skills it takes to create your own products, it's a pretty good deal.

    PM me if you want more info and I'll send you a link to a video.

    Originally Posted by Cassano 10 View Post
    What is the MOBE licence?
  • Profile picture of the author cajun
    cajun
    Originally Posted by getrichinfo View Post
    I knew it! there is definitely a catch somewhere!
    When it sounds too good to be true....
  • Profile picture of the author SarahEmpower
    SarahEmpower
    I’m going to give you a proven money-making system for FREE…
    and never ask you for a single dime for it
    until AFTER you make money with it.
    - That was part of the sales letter...

    1. You need to go through each of the 21 steps on the day it’s assigned to you.
    2. If you skip a step, or do a step out of order you forfeit the guarantee.
  • Profile picture of the author smak
    smak
    Guys don't bother with this MTTB program.

    You will be required to pay $2k just to become affiliate of their products. And that too without really having clue as to the salesletters of products u will be asked to promote or any other material that can aid marketing.

    Tell me does clickbank/ebay/amazon or many others charge you any monies to become affiliate? Off course no. So why the heck are these guys charging $2k for what effectively is to become affiliate of their products.

    Also on their salesletter they say things like each of the 21 step will take you 30 minutes to complete. But I covered 3 steps and they all seem to have recordings of seminar presentations lasting 1 hour & more.

    Just hate these kind of things. So fed up of such tactics.
  • Profile picture of the author cajun
    cajun
    Originally Posted by SarahEmpower View Post
    I’m going to give you a proven money-making system for FREE…
    and never ask you for a single dime for it
    until AFTER you make money with it.
    - That was part of the sales letter...

    1. You need to go through each of the 21 steps on the day it’s assigned to you.
    2. If you skip a step, or do a step out of order you forfeit the guarantee.
    So halfway thru the 21 steps I need to buy a $2000 license? If I don't, means I didn't complete a step, so forfeit $500 guarantee, plus $49 already paid?
    Please clarify...
    What did you do, Maurice?
    tx
  • Profile picture of the author Forex To Success
    Forex To Success
    I just signed up yesterday. Now i read this post and start smelling fishy.
    I will see how i goes and keep everyone update
  • Profile picture of the author higherluv
    higherluv
    (From anyone who’s tried this…) if we get on board how do they expect us to promote their products?
  • Profile picture of the author scorpiobleue
    scorpiobleue
    Originally Posted by CtrlAltRage View Post
    Heya Mac,

    I've recently become a Licensee of Matt Lloyd's and I can say that it DOES take some work to get it running.

    Coaching wise it's pretty solid but it is definitely focused around the MOBE series of products.

    If you have any questions regarding it, let me know I can answer any questions. Just shoot me a PM.
    Hi! I'm new on the board and I just signed up yesterday. I was wondering if it would be okay if I PM'd some questions?
  • Profile picture of the author RobertoM
    RobertoM
    Originally Posted by gilksy View Post
    The MOBE Licence gives you the licence rights to sell the core MOBE products for 90% commission (ranging from $87 to $267) and re-sell the MOBE licence itself for 50% commission ($1K).

    Considering the time and skills it takes to create your own products, it's a pretty good deal.

    PM me if you want more info and I'll send you a link to a video.
    Hi gilsky,
    I'm a bit confused about My Tier Top Business. The sales vid looks a bit hyped but it sounds good.
    But reading the posts of this thread some red lights turned on in my head.
    What do you get for those $49
    Supposedly if you go to the end of the30 days and don't earn the $1,000 they'll refund you and give you a $500 as compensation, but it seems that in the middle of the road you are forced to step into $1,997 MOBE to carry on. Is that so?
    What is FREE in MTTB? Looks like a scam so far.
    Can you clear up this please
    Thank you
  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Martin
    Dennis Martin
    My email response to Matt:

    After watching the sales video,
    Seeing that it was free to join...
    Oh Yeah... you need to put up the $ 49.00 to keep out the tire kickers.
    Not disclosed... $ 2,000.00 License fee coming later.

    Matt LLoyd;

    I am so glad I visited the Warrior Forum and read the reviews, before getting
    sucked into your scheme. Two weeks later after paying the 49.00, I will have
    to put up another $ 2,000.00 ??? , evidently making you some good commission, while I
    will still be stuck in training, and watching 1 hour stale videos.

    You should disclose the $ 2,000.00 up front. You are a dishonest scammer, and
    prey upon unknowing people who get sucked into your schemes, without researching
    first. To bad for them.

    Your business is only for those who can sleep at night after ripping others off.

    But as for me.... I am unsubscribing from your list, and posting this on the Warrior Forum.

    If these reviews I have read are not true, you are welcome to respond, as I and other
    inquiring minds would like to know.

    I am not questioning the value of the product, and if it works or not, as I am not going to
    part with $ 2,000.00 to find out.

    I am posting to expose your marketing tactics, and non-disclosure, as the undisclosed
    $ 2,000.00 license fee would be a deal killer for many who would initially pay the ( free ?? ) $ 49.00

    As for now... I smell something rotten in the state of Panama City ( from where you stated you were at during the email ).

    This may seem a harsh post... but how many lost $ 49.00 to this tactic?

    Looking for Truth...

    Dennis E Martin
  • Profile picture of the author CtrlAltRage
    CtrlAltRage
    This reply could be taken in many different ways.

    You may think I'm defending him. You may think I AM him in disguise lol.

    You may even think I'm one of his "lackeys" trying to sound like My Top Tier Business is the most amazing thing ever.

    So allow me to just start off by saying, look at my previous posts. Just a little over a year ago I was BRAND spanking new to Internet Marketing. I first stated trying to get into CPA advertising, hoping to make it rich by sending people to crappy offers that would pay me 50 cents a lead.

    Eventually, I was able to meet a pretty cool cat on the WF who was a successful marketer, became a part of his team and pretty much lost interest in anything else.

    This year, I was able to become a part of Matt Lloyd's affiliate program and I gotta say it's pretty legit. I've been a MOBE License Rights member since April and from April to June I had made around $1,100 bucks. Nothing to shake a finger at, especially for something I hadn't really been pushing at the time.

    MTTB is a system he just came out with and while I agree the message of it is a little confusing (and some can take it as "scammy")...it's far from a scam.

    I just got back from being at his Supercharge Summit in Chicago and I've met him personally. I've had time to talk to him one on one and he's even helped me with pointers on a business plan I'm working on.

    That's not a sign of a scammer.

    Like I said above, I'm more than happy to try to answer any questions, but I really don't frequent the WF that often anymore. Shoot me a PM and I can add you on Facebook.

    As far as results, I can tell you that since around the beginning of July (When I finished the MTTB Course) I've made more money than I have in 4 weeks than I did from April to June.

    If you follow the system, it DOES work. You have to remain consistent.

    And honestly? If you already have a system making you money then by all means stick with it. For some of us, having a coach and a community of like minded individuals (my friends I've met in through MOBE) really aids in our success.

    I've been on the warrior forum for a little over a year and not to bash it, it's far from "like minded" individuals. I've read so many posts where someone was bashing someone else, another person was accused to scamming another or another person posting false claims of how much money they've made.

    Now, I'll always appreciate the WF for what it is. I still come back here from time to time to read relevant posts if I'm curious about a specific topic, but let's be honest. Buying WSO's here was just a big "next shiny object" circle that I got caught in until I found a proven system.

    I'm aware I just went off on a tangent, but I wanted to try to be real and transparent. Anyways, I'm here to help with any questions and I'll leave this reply by saying this:

    Regardless of what you think about MTTB or Matt Lloyd. Regardless of if you decide to hate it or love it.

    If you think $2,000 is too much money to invest in a business, you're gonna have a really hard time making money online.
  • Profile picture of the author RobertoM
    RobertoM
    Originally Posted by CtrlAltRage View Post

    If you think $2,000 is too much money to invest in a business, you're gonna have a really hard time making money online.
    The question here is "where" to invest that money, not the amount.
    They don't mention a single word about MOBE nor $2,000 in the sales letter, and that's misleading and not fair.
  • Profile picture of the author mattlloyd
    mattlloyd
    I am constantly surprised by how moronic some of the people on this forum are.

    Especially Mr Dennis Martin.

    @Dennis - I've never met you, but, I'd be willing to bet anyone on this forum that you have never had any real success online before. Admit it - I'm right, aren't I?

    I didn't get your email - if I'd seen it though, the first thing I'd do is get you off my list. Making threats that you're going to go post about me on a forum... typical signs of an amateur.

    If you haven't got a refund for the 49 tell me your email now, and I'll do it myself. Frankly I'm embarrassed to have had you as a customer.

    For those whining about the fact that I offer additional programs in MTTB - yes I do.

    It's what we in the business refer to as an "upsell" - or an OTO. They do 2 things: offer additional value to the customer, and, allow you the marketer to increase your average customer value.

    And, what they ALL have in common, is that there is an option as to whether you say "yes please" or "no thankyou."

    No one holds a gun to your head and says you have to buy this.

    Yes, I do have additional programs. I recommend you get them, because they are good. But it's completely up to you.

    And complaining that I don't talk about the additional offers in the initial front end sales video is also stupid. Have you ever watched any sales video and heard them say, "hey, after you buy this, we're going to offer you 3 other programs in our OTO sequence!!" - I don't think so.

    I thought this was supposed to be a marketing forum.

    Some idiot was also complaining that the videos in the course are too long - imagine that... someone complaining about 'too much' content.

    And Dennis - buddy, I'm actually in Panama scouting locations for a big event we are putting on next year- as I clearly wrote in my email.

    I will gladly put our success statistics of members in MTTB up against any other system out there. Every day that system is making partners tens of thousands of dollars. It clearly works, and most people really love it. Those who don't... are more than welcome to refund the 49.

    Thankyou for the support from some of you above - who have actually used the system.

    For anyone reading this - here's the deal: you can go through MTTB yourself, and see what it's like.

    Yes, some of the Steps may take you more than 30 minutes, because not every lesson in IM fits conveniently inside a 30 minute time slot.

    But, you'll get a very good grounding when it comes to selling high ticket items on the internet.

    If you get to the end and MTTB it's not for you... simply contact our support. Easy.
  • Profile picture of the author RobertoM
    RobertoM
    Hey Matt,
    Your answer to Dennis sounds a bit arrogant but I can understand that because you may be a bit pissed off.
    Pls give us a straight answer to this question:

    What happens with your $500 guarantee + $49 refund on day 30 if the $1,000 mark is not reached after the 21 steps, and MOBE hasn't been purchased. Is MOBE one of the 21?
  • Profile picture of the author mattlloyd
    mattlloyd
    Roberto, I wasn't trying to be arrogant. I just don't tolerate it when uninformed people think it's ok to go trash my business on forums and abuse me. It's cowardly and amateur.

    If anyone ever has any questions about my products or business and asks me in a respectful, professional way, I'll always take the time to give them an answer. Always.

    So here's the deal with the guarantee; it's an implementation guarantee, that states that if a member of MTTB goes through the 21 steps in full, in under 21 days, completing all action steps - and then has not made a 1k commission within the next 30 days, then I'll pay them $500.

    After someone gets to the end of the 21 steps...we have a 30 day traffic plan that the member follows, where they get an affiliate link for MTTB and we then show them how to go get traffic.

    Is it easy to get the $500? So long as you can show us reasonable evidence you've completed all the action steps from the 21 steps, yes.

    The big problem with a guarantee like this though... is that it can at times attract the wrong people. People who think they can sign up to MTTB... try it out for a few days...then come back to us and say "hey, I tried it, got no results, where's my $500?"

    We don't allow that. As we very, very clearly state (especially in Step 1 of MTTB) if anyone wants to take us up on the guarantee - they will need to prove they completed the steps and took action.

    To anyone thinking about joining MTTB with the mindset of "I'm going to get that $500" - my advice is: don't. You will have to invest time and work into making the system work - and, there are MUCH easier ways to go make $500.

    If you're going to join it, go in with the attitude that you're going to implement every action step and treat this like a real business.

    I've been selling high ticket programs for years now and know what I'm doing - the people who implement and use MTTB the way it's designed to be used are making high ticket commissions on a steady basis. It works, but only when you treat it like a real business.
  • Profile picture of the author Forex To Success
    Forex To Success
    I paid $49, just want to see what it is, but i didn't go ahead for the $2000 upsell. I am not saying the system is not going to work, it's just that the training itself keep showing me how good the system is, and all these people there are make this amount ...etc. However, it didn't show me how good the quality their high ticket products are, why it worth such a high cost?.....Basically, it's like i was told to promote an item which was claimed profitable, but i don't know much about the feature of this item until i pay $2000 for an entry ticket first. Matt is right; no one holds a gun to your head and says you have to buy this; neither the $49 front sell. Everyone has an option.

    So, there are only 3 types of people:
    A) People who bought the $2000 upsell, hoping/believe the system work
    B) People who refuse to spend $2000 upsell, don't 100% believe the system work
    C) People who want to, but can't afford the $2000 upsell

    There is always Type A people existing out there. They spent a fair amount of money already, of course they will try their very best to sell the product to any potential buyers to earn back the $ they paid, regardless of the quality of the product. I am not challenging the quality of the product here (as i never have a chance to try it myself), maybe it worth far more than it cost.... Just my 2 cents

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