Crew Chief

Actually, truth be told, the users who got their sites sandboxed, used tools like SEO Nuke, BMD BIE and BLB and other SEO Strategies without understanding the nuances, ebb and flow of SEO.

As John stated its about scheduling your runs to stay under the radar(s). Do that and you'll see nothing but higher rankings and increased income.

Sadly, most people get these powerful tools and DON'T read the instructions and DON'T apply known SEO rules and guidelines and that's why they get into trouble.

In terms of answering the OPs question, it just a matter of budget.

BOWarrior

Thanks to all of you who wrote in here. This is one of those posts that I actually read through all of. Had to take break in middle for fresh air.

Lot's of good tips for SENuke(pros and cons) and the bookmarking tools tangent, SocialBot and BookmarkDemon(which was helpful).

I will add this one note, don't use SubmitEdge.com for any outsourcing. Tried a few small campaigns. Not pleased. Missing links within weeks even though they give a one year guarantee.

OrganicSeoGuru

No matter which one of these you use, if you over do it, your screwed, it's that simple.

Match the existing link graphs and you will do just fine.

Any one else use Magic Submitter ?

I feel confident overall with SeNuke as Areeb is a programmer himself, its not like he is outsourcing the software programming like 99% of everyone else out there and just marketing their new shiny box of software.

Personally I have made well over 700K with SeNuke and other related piece of software by using them properly in just the last 2 years of so.

But the software is the easy part, its all the niche, keyword research and competitive analysis that goes into making sure the tool is working for you effectively.

Regardless everyone has their own way of doing things, but I will attest that everything when used correctly is better than doing nothing and hoping for the best.

RipeBanana

If you really wanted to be serious, I would just buy ubot and code your own stuff.

WPblogmatic

I completely disagree. I have used EVO II to rank hundreds of blogs and the majority all stick to first page ranking. Don't confuse Google's short term dance with the ranking itself being short lived.

maxitman

Just a note to consider; I am beginning to feel that I won't be part of anything that happens on a monthly basis, or unless it's a payment plan - buy to own, in fact most of what I see out there really is not worth it, it's simply a way to collect extra money, nice for them but not so nice if you are the one that pays. Then again, I am not totally against a monthly membership, but it has to be like a partnership type of thing, a mutual sort of deal, where the risk is more or less shared. That would make sense.

daviddriscoll

I have found EVO II to be magic and a long term stayer - extra tools like keyword researchers, the autosign up tools for twitter and facebook are also great and cost no extra once you sign up (nor do your subscription fees increase despite price rises! The module that automatically signs you up for new accounts is gold!

There are a huge bunch of happy users in their forums - so the sandbox thing doesn't seem to bother them

AshtonWebb

Man... if that was the case then I can kick all of my competitors to the sandbox and I can take over.... YAH!!!

Come on... Yes you want to build quality content for backlinks, so that you can drive more traffic, and to raise your site rankings... more is better.

Sandbox... lol its just a way for google to figure out where you belong in the listings... if you get stuck there, then you did something wrong as far as your meta tag, or site structure.... just fix it and you will get back on the pages...

Senuke and its alternatives do work... you just have to know HOW to work it for your application... SPIN, SPIN, SPIN!!!

Yah, they are a little pricey, but so are outsourcing when they have all that work to do.

- Ashton

greyhatmaster

Bookmarking module- Bookmarkwiz or bookmarking demon

Keyword Research-Market samurai or MNF

Web2.0 module and profile module- Link builder Pro

Video module - Tube Mogul.

Article module - Magic Article Submitter.

Rss submission and more = Scrapebox

The disadvantage with SEnuke is that you can use only one module at a time. You will loose huge amount of time waiting and watching.

When you have several tools like this you can operate them simultaneously and your productivity will be much better.

DynamicIMS

if you had to pick one tool to help you with video submissions, bookmarking, article submission, PR submission, RSS, web 2.0 and social media which would you choose?

and would your choice change if you were using it for multiple clients?

pavionjsl

I always love the to many links angel of deaths. As stated above, we could drive each other into the ground if that was true. God could you see that product pitch, sandbox your competition TONIGHT!!! Take over page one using links on their sites........hmmmm

Matt Attack

I have never used SeNuke, but I have used magic submitter. Once you get magic submitter working right it is very powerful.

DynamicIMS

have you had problems getting magic submitter working right?

atatum

i want to become an affilate for senuke, but cant find out where to sign up does anyone know?

Thomas71

I find it rather strange that Seo Link Robot (no affiliate link) isn`t mentioned. I have one of Stewens other software and it is a really powerful toy.

//Thomas

Slin

I've enjoyed using xgen SEO, pretty much the same as SeNuke except it requires a little less babysitting (it creates your blogs, then mini blogs pointing to your blogs, then articles pointing to your site, then bookmarks all of them, then rss feeds your bookmarks and pings everything, all at the press of a button) but it's still facing a few growing pains.

AllThingsArePossible

it's a sleeper and product just launched not too long ago...gotta like no monthly fees

DynamicIMS

magic submitter does have monthly fees though (from their website)

ruch1v

To be fair it's only been out about a week. I hear magic submitter is a pretty worthy alternative

Ruchi

djleon1

Sick Submitter combined with Scrapebox is a less expensive tool that can deliver thousands of links .

DynamicIMS

can you us more about that combination? have you used other software to have a comparison of results?

livethedream

I have senuke x and its an amazing piece of software if used in the correct manner. I can do more work with nuke in two hours than I previously did in a week. The thing I like about nuke is the very high success rates when posting.

I create all my own articles (or oursource them) and spin them to over 30% which is advised. Yoy also get 3 licenses so you cann even give a copy to your VA in you want them to use the S.W.

I have read so much about google sandbox and my belief is THERE IS NO SUCH THING. I have had sites fall off the face of the earth for 3 weeks, kept promoting them and they come back even stronger. Just my experience, and as many people have said if you were able to do this we could simply spam the crap out of any competitors site and banish them for ever....

Senuke X is awesome and with the new wizard for newbies its so easy to setup very complex linking structures and you can shedule over any period you want...

MikeFriedman

One quick note here... Unless you have had a VA for a long time that you really feel that you know and trust, I would just put SEnuke X on a VPS and give them an account to use on the VPS. Then if you have to get rid of them or choose to no longer use them, you can just restrict their access to the VPS.

Also, if you have multiple VA's, this is a good alternative to having to buy multiple licenses for them to use.

SEODude

SEnuke is a great addition to any SEO company or Internet marketer to be honest.

$127 a month. One SEO client can pay for that then the rest is profit

ayolov

SEnuke, like any software can be very effective, but you must use common sense when you use it. It's very powerful, so in the wrong hands in can be SPAM, but using it the right way, it is a tool that will leverage your rankings fast!

Apollo-Articles

I've never seen so many acronyms!

Could you explain what BMD BIE, ebb and BLB are?

Thanks,

Sam

Moderator

You might want to rethink that ebb one ;-)

djleon1

There are a few tools that can approximate what senuke does for far less than what senuke costs. I have access to senuke (shared server) and own the tools below:

Sick Submitter is a great alternative that costs around $19 a month. It has a strong community and many modules and you can create templates for it

Seo link robot - is good too. I do not think it is as good as Sick submitter but for it does work.

You can then go the ala carte route and get several stand alone tools such as

Article Marketing Robot
Social Bookmarking Demon
Scrape Box (I would get this one no matter what)

The three immediately above are great in that they are no monthly costs involved.

lancelotfl

I used EVO 2 and now EVO Pro. The program works great and produces results. I tried SE Nuke X and got a refund. Way too complicated with that whacko diagram thingamajig and it kept killing my file download pop-up windows.

EVO Pro is simple to use and really powerful. I've been a user for years.

Best regards,
Michael Murray

Shemp Hain

The obvious choice is Magic Submitter. It does the same thing as SENuke and it costs half the price. Plus, you get a ton of training from Alex and no bull**** spam emails.

xxxJamesxxx

The one I recommend is SEO Link Robot. It's like the little brother of SE Nuke X... Very reliable indeed.

James Scholes

JamieSEO

It depends on how you use the software. Obviously those that blast thousands of backlinks directly to their site within a short time are going to get poor results.

SENukeX's real advantage lies in using multi-tiered linking so that you firmly control the amount of direct backlinks created and build up each of those backlinks through bookmarking them...

I have seen some people use the software to create 3,000 backlinks over 3 days all leading directly back to their brand new website... any automated backlinking tool requires the user to have knowledge of SEO to use it properly.

JamieSEO

If you're starting out then I recommend going with Big Mike's ArticleBot, SocialBot, etc

They are very cheap and can be bought outright.

For SENukeX, personally I suggest that if you only have a small number of sites to promote that you outsource it. There are at least 5 different services you can find in the Warrior Forum Classifieds that can provide you with a package that suits for a fraction of the cost.

Outsourcing it also lets you take advantage of their SEO and software knowledge rather than risking screwing up your sites if you're not sure how many links you should be creating and how often.

cypherslock

An alternative is Magic Submitter. If you get it from Mastering Magic Submitter Training Videos (NOT my site, a site from the people that put the manual together), you can get it for $53 a month instead of $67. This is what I did. And with the recent upgrade, MS is my tool of choice.

Tasso Pepi

They are two totally different pieces of software.. Senuke automates all the account creating and anchor text backlinking...
So senuke makes lifes easier

Tasso Pepi

I agree.
Although their are other tools like Magic Submitter, Seo Link Robot, and having used all 3 Senuke is the most polished and automated...

And Karan has stated why the price is so high and until someone can get the same sort of user friendliness and automation senuke has it will continue to be very highly priced...

Tasso Pepi

Haha!!!
Gee that is a confusing one...

mmresources

SE Nuke is a great program that I also use every day. For those with cost issues, getting on a VPS with shared SEO tools is a cost effective way to go. It typically costs less, plus you usually get all of the top SEO tools. The only downside is that there is typically occasional down time, and you must must must use private proxies as you are sharing an IP with others. For the trade off in cost, though, this is a great way to go.

MobApps

BruteForceSEO/Evo 2 Pro is $157 month. I am using it now. Although it is pricey I have had great results with it personally. I have put many sites to the front page of Google with it. In fact I have achieved the #1 spot on multiple occasions, totally dominated some keywords, getting 7 & 8 of the top 10 positions on Google and in the weight loss niche I put one keyword to the #2 position of Google with over 80 Million competing pages. I do other SEO to my sites to give it the best chance for ranking. It may not work as well if you don't have the proper on page SEO on your site but it is simple to use and it works for me. I have used SENuke and some others (they work ok) but I like the simplicity of Evo 2 Pro and it has worked for me on everything I have used it on.

Not trying to make a testimonial here...just sayin

oconn92234

I don't use SeNuke myself but what I did do is hire a guy who already had it ( he was offering it as a wso ).

I tried him out for 3 months and didn't get anywhere with it so don't have anything good to say about it.

Matt Baker

Anyone tried Sick Submitter? It is very similar to SENukeX.. 90%