G Singh

Hi guys,

Just been researching SeNuke and I'm put of the $127/month price tag. Are there any similar products out there that do the same job???

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Andy Hart

Brute force seo is similar not sure of the cost but If I remember it has a few negative comments about it on here but that was the first release I have just gotten quite a few emails to say the new version is out.

Its also by a fellow warrior named Peter Drew.

I haven't tried the program so don't know if its good or bad but at least its an alternative.

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G Singh

Cheers for the reply Andy,

Just read up on Brute Force its seems similar yet different to SeNuke.

Both seem quite costly Senuke at 127/month and bruteforce at 147/month. It would have been better if it was a one off fee.

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FYI, I just read in another thread that Bruteforce SEO is $147/mo

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G Singh

Yeh i read that too. What i want to do is use software to promoto my money sites (adsense). Im not sure If i would be able to justify spending $127/ month considering I wouldn't expect to make much through my money sites. Any alternatives available?? Maybe lower monthly costs or a one off fee??

G Singh

Cheers ebiz,


Yep I'll definitely try it out. You may want to look at Social Buzz Master by Greg White (I beleive he's a fellow Warrior), its just been released.

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SE Nuke and Bruter Force SEo are useless, if you want short lived ranking use them, if you want authority pages that stick don't use them.

I want a good keyword researcher, not for min sites but for tech articles. Hit me up if you've got those skillz!

ph1470

You are absolutely correct!

The Google "sandbox" is caused by this type of SEO. You probably will get to the first page of Google in a short time, but you wont stay there. Google calculates the amount of links from the date it became aware of the links presence and then compares it to links of similar sites and determines which links are more valuable based on age and time accumulated. If you don't fit the criteria or "average"...down the sandbox you go!


Google's spam filters can be fooled for a short period of time but they will ultimately get you.

I should know, I learned the hard way until I finally just started doing SEO the right way. Now my sites have sustained traffic and gradually move up through the Google rankings steadily.

SEO is an ongoing strategy. The phrase "Slow and steady wins the race" applies the best.

bradhodges

I don't agree with the value at all. I "upgraded" a year ago this July for almost $1,000 as a special. I knew it at the time, I'm sure, that this was only for a one year term. I forgot about it until just recently when I was reminded it WAS only for one year. This makes SEnuke one of the highest priced tickets out there, in a time when most big name marketers are giving real value for hard earned dollars. While I consider SEnuke a valuable tool and I use it all the time, every program has it's price, in my opinion, and this is a way over bloated price point. I feel that $1,000 should have been a lifetime membership and I of course take full responsibility for making the one year decision at the time, but in retrospect what was I thinking? I cannot afford nor justify to now go back to $127 a month!

As I said it's a good program but not THAT good. As more in the way of explanation and substantiation let me compare it to some of the other big name products out on the market. I purchased John Reese's Traffic Secrets 2.0 for a liftime price of under $500. I purchased my original Butterfly Markting script by Mike Filsaime for under $500 for a liftime membership and subsquently received the latest upgrade for another license for "free" for a liftime. Even the StomperNet boys are getting in touch with financial reality and the almightly Frank Kern does not charge as much as SEnuke does (or did) for one year for his lifetime packages.

I think the SEnuke boys are out of touch with the market and my feeling is they will ultimately pay the price of reduced revenue because of it. Many of you may be very successful and can easily afford $127 a month but there are those of us not into the game long and needing to find value in the hard earned costs paid is mission and fiscal critical.

In closing, don't get me wrong. SEnuke is a great product. Just not at that price.

ChrisG

How can it be great if it's not helping you generate over $127/mo?

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mick535

I just wrote an article on my blog about this very thing. I love SENuke and I use it every day.

Just like any automated tool, SENuke can be used for SPAMing the different Web 2.0 properties it submits to. The problem is, most people don't know how to manage this effectively without getting slammed by Google.

I use multiple accounts that I created through SENuke. Yes, it is a slight pain in the ass to change accounts, but it is only 5 minutes if you use simple copy and paste. I submit based on Niche, not en mass. I write every article I submit and I use the auto spinner, but only to make my own articles last more. I do use the advanced spinning features as well when I do use a PLR or other aritcle.

I have had massive success with this product because I don't "Abuse" it.

See my article here: SENuke Revisited: One SEO Tool, One Bookmarker, One Answer

I'm a fan and yes, I promote it heavily because I am also a dedicated user. Over 6 months now and the new auto captcha feature is the best addition yet. $127 is nothing compared to the money I am making from my search engine rankings each month.

seolake

SENuke will work if you use it in a planned and moderated way. Else you are getting ready for getting your site sandboxed.

mick535

I couldn't agree more.

rhab

I would first ask what purpose are you considering using SENuke for? Is it to simply automate and speed up the processes which you are currently doing yourself, or are you looking for a solid method to rank your websites?

Obviously, SENuke can serve both purposes. However, if your primary focus is for ranking your sites, the cheapest and incredibly powerful way would be to purchase Steve Aylors back linking gold, Angela and Pauls monthly back link packs, and Fran's auto-scripts for Steve's links.

I have been using these regularly and have seen amazing results. Multiple listings on page one across the board. With Fran coming out with his macro scripts, these packs are even better now!!!

If the $127 a month price is too much or simply will keep you up at night =p, you really need to get the above wso's and give them a go. You definitely will not be disappointed! Quite frankly it would be nice if they were no longer for sale for those of us who already have these wso's lol =p. They are that powerful!

bradhodges

You're right ChrisG it's not.

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These types of tools are useless only if you don't use them in moderation and a with a bit of common sense.

I used SocialBot on a brand new site in late January. It took about three weeks to get Google page 1 above the fold rankings for my targeted keywords (a dozen or so of them).

I ran the controlled test using SocialBot for about a month.

I haven't added any content or submitted any links since late February.

As of today I'm still #3 for my primary keyword out of 2.8 million broad search results.

I just spot checked a few of my other keywords. I'm still in position #1 for one of them, and am still on page 1 of Google for every one of the ones I checked.

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I wouldn't be so negativbe but from my expericence you better use these software really carefully otherwise you'll get a ranking boost ... followed by a penalty. Google's algorythm is way too smart not to see abnormal spikes in links etc... To me nothing is worth manual submitting (outsource it if you have the $$)

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which is better seo software seo elite or senuke???what u guys recommend for seo??

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They are different tools. SENuke is gerneally used for making linkwheels, and SEO elite is good for finding backlinks and such.

Use them both.

w3bmast3r

I dont think i'm any easier about buying seonuke after this thread, i'm hoping that its really a good program that just happens to get people abusing it

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njaad

read this thread. great stuff about SEnuke alternatives. The point is that many of SEnuke's modules can be replaced by much better software that you pay a one-time fee for.

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The recurring monthy fee model is starting to get tiresome. Instead, they should offer a lifetime subscription at a higher price, say, $997 or $1997 (which some marketers take for a few video modules these days). Based on the low retention rate of monthy memberships, companies (not just the SEnuke folks) should seriously consider a one-time payment option. Oh, but I digress...

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SEnuke is Combination of whatever you need to rank high - but the price is "combination" too

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Karan Goel

Hey

Frankly, SENuke has no competition. And that's why the price is so high. You could outsource the job, but that would no give good results, and might just turn out to be more expensive in long term race.

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wwesley

I think the closest alternative is SEO brute force. i cannot remember the exact name.

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Charles Harper

Hi John and All:

What I wonder about tools like this is scheduling.

When you use Social Bot and SENuke, are you running the software one time for one site,

Or are you running it several times over the course of (Fill in the blanks here...Days?, Weeks?, Months?).

I am wondering if you run it all at once, if you don't spook Google about what you are doing. If you have to run it a little at a time, I guess I wonder if SENuke or Incansoft will ever build an auto scheduler.

Obviously people are having good success with both products. I just wonder how they are doing it in terms of scheduling or if I am making a mountain out of a molehill.

Thoughts, anyone or everyone?

CT

Charles Harper

I know some people do outsource their SENuke and have success at it. I have been outsourcing to for a bit and what Karan says here makes sense.

That (building Web 2.0 Properties) being the most sensitive part of the operation, I am not sure I would pass that part over. Again, that is just me. Somebody will probably jump on who has made it work.

CT

Dave d

For an senuke alternative Im strongly considering http://www.linkbuilder-pro.com/specoff.html I have all the social bot tools and now just need something mainly for linkwheels. The only reason I did not push the buy button yet is because you need to buy external proxies and I had to email the creator numerous times to get more info on this aspect of it, and I feel that infomation should be fully laid out on the site somewhere, so it has me wondering if there are other things that are required to make this work which I dont know about

Dexx

This is looking to be the "SENuke killer:"

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Jeremy Kelsall

From what I've seen, there is no "alternative" if you are looking for all in one automation.

And for those saying that tools like SENUKE aren't good for your sites, because you will get sandboxed....there is really only one response to that - LMAO - You keep building your links one at a time, and I'll keep building mine hundreds at a time,

Jeremy Kelsall

I'll believe it when i see it.

In order for a program like that to be successful, the people behind it have to be not only responsive (like areeb), but have to continually update the program (like areeb) to keep everything working. It can't be a "Ok, it's done - here you go" type of deal.

For at least a year, other programs have been trying to keep pace with SENUKE and their "updates" are usually features that SENUKE has had for at least a couple of months.


I've bought some decent products from Adeel and Bobby, but I've not been very happy with the last couple of software purchases. I will give it a whirl though if it comes with a free trial just to see what's what.

AllThingsArePossible

what's your thoughts on Link Dozer Jeremy

JulioGarabot

There is a new one in town Link Builder PRO and the subscription is $30 a Month

Julio

Jeremy Kelsall

From what I've seen and heard....It's not exactly "competition" yet.

Jeremy Kelsall

I've never tried Link Dozer, it may very well be good....

BUT

From what I've seen, they pretty much all do the same thing. In my opinion, SENUKE just does those things better.

Unlike other "alternatives" Areeb doesn't roll out features for the users to be Beta Testers like some of the other programs out there. He has a forum where in many cases HE answers your question, and is responsive to suggestions, and updates.

anywanted

I'm another one who would review 'SeNuke' as best from this type tools and probably no alternatives available - software who did all mentioned things, not only some of them.

What's regarding price, I think that good software must be based on monthly price, not life time. Why? SEO is continuous process, software always needs updates. If software sales would stop one day, developers probably won't update it for long. Such tools like SeNuke must be updated constantly, because the web 2.0 sites (supported by Senuke) are updated constantly too. How much should it cost? Well I'm still charged $97/m since I'm one of older members, so don't think it's too much

SeNuke effectiveness? Just don't overuse it for one site, don't forget that social/web 2.0 sites links shouldn't be only links of your sites, and won't be troubles...

P.S. I've just subscribed for Brute Force seo trial, will see what's there... Main site & sales tactics looks very similar to SeNuke, but price is much higher. ($157/month, so probably will cancel...)

icrystal

Hi CT,

I have about 15 sites right now that i'm promoting and I have a simple excel spreadsheet where I track my sites (listed along the left margin) the various ways I want to promote sites (across the top) and then note inside the chart when I've done it for each site (hope I made sense there ).

Everyone is correct that SEnuke is powerful enough to blast sites no problem, the trick is to use this amazing software with care and purpose... do that and it's your BEST FRIEND. I can't say enough good things about it. Yesterday I got done in one day for several sites what would have normally taken me over a week to do. I'm a happy girl

anywanted

I've tried Brute Force SEO, and decided to drop several lines regarding this one. Software works, 'profile' links is probably best it's section, but... no idea why it costs $157/month now. If Senuke costs $127, I wouldn't pay more than like $37 for this. Very simple and might be better for newbies - less settings, less options, less questions

I remember how SENuke looked like ~1.5 year ago, so will be back for BF trial version again in ~ 6 months Maybe they will improve...

warfore

I use Web2Mayhem. I have not used SENuke so I can't compare. So far W2M has done a very good job but it is not completely automated.

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I believe that for now SeNuke is the king and everyone else is just trying to match what they are doing. And the folks over at SeNuke know it hence why they update their software so often.

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mido

Some are reporting success with EVO2 from Peter Drew.
It is not not cheaper than SeNuke but has some interesting features.

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Brute Force SEO is worth the money, and then 10x more minimum.

Short term? No. Long term, and high PR are the result when used correctly. If you follow Pete Drew's instructions, you will not go wrong. If you're a retarded monkey, and spam the sh*t out of the sites, it won't work, and you will go down in flames.

BFSEO is the same thing as manual profile link building - it's just automated, and faster. Leaving you with more time for the important stuff, like content.

tyroneshum

I have just decided to purchase Traffic Geyser recently and studying its main street marketing modules inside and I think it's much much in-depth to stress within techniques of SEO because going local could be more viral as some of the hidden markets out there would really seek our help to help promote their businesses and then we can charge them with the way services are offered - the more services that we could offer them, the more willing they are to pay in return.

I'm still studying all modules at the moment and will send you updates real soon!

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If this program can get people put in the so called "sandbox" by using it to spam then I am going out right now and signing up for a subscription and spamming the crap out of all my competitors.

AbbyJustin

SeNuke is the best,it is my opinion

cypherslock

I use SocialBot. Gently, I might add. Took a look at the Web2Mayhem page. If the guy won't take the time to show me screenshots, or pice, then I'm not buying. That said, has anyone tried EVOII?

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Cost/Benefit.

We need more public results of A/B tests.

The problem I have with SENUKE is that Web 2.0 is only one of many SEO techniques that give results.

Directories, Article Campaigns, Blog Comments, Profile Links, Web 2.0 they all work, but real SEO like analyzing and getting your competitors backlinks is just as important.

I like the idea of SENUKE, but I just don't see it worth the price tag by itsellf. Those Web 2.0 properties are worthless without backlinks.

captivereef

i use magic article rewriter,socialbot,magic article submitter,weblink robot and rss bot.

total investment was under $200 and the only one that has a monthly fee is weblink robot (14.95) butit does a good job submitting to web 2.0 sites

also check out www.magicsubmitter.com its in free beta right now

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I have used SENUKE and others mentioned here - Without a doubt SENUKE wins hands down cost wise and facilities wise.

There is much talk about the sandbox - I dont believe it exists. What people experience, is the usual Google ranking review... ie the site getting lots of links suddenly and disappearing from the rankings 'temporarily' why Google waits to see what comes next. This is the point at which people think they are sandboxed and give the site up for dead. WRONG!
If they were to continue promoting in a consistant manner, the site would reappear on the rankings in a short period.

This is exactly what happened to a couple of my sites. One I stopped promoting and the other I continued with. Using SEnuke and it reappeared within two weeks in a very healthy spot! There are lots of ways to use SENUKE which can appear very natural. You dont need to use all your created accounts every time. Maybe a quarter of SB accounts and 5 or 6 web2 2 or 3 articles and you are all set. Mix it up and tick different boxes each time. Using varied anchor text and when they are done, you can go in and tweak, add extra images, an extra link, another paragraph etc. These extra things only take half an hour.
You can create layered linkwheels by doing a little campagin or two on one of your web2 properties instead of your main site.

Consistant promotion is the answer. Just stick at it for a while on one promotion and it will work very very well.

SENuke does have a bit of a learning curve. Whe n I first got in I thought JEEZ where do I start....? The tutorials are ok, not perfectly ordered in my opinion but good enough to get the gist. Set aside a week to master all the parts of it properly before promoting. Get some good articles written and spun for your niche and this is a great tool. Areeb is constantly ahead of the game and I feel he keeps under the google radar very well. There is no footprint, all the sites would appear to be created by humans. If you add a little clever twist of your own, and dont go for all the sites all the time, it is perfect. It still gives me a buzz every time I set it off! How long would it take to get these backlinks manually!!

I hope this is useful for someone sitting on the fence.

Now I shall stop rambling

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g2114

Just checked out Social Buzz Master that Gee suggested. Looks pretty good. I just cancelled my subsription to SEnuke because I wasn't using it as much as I should due to time contraint and can't afford the monthly price right now. I'm also looking for a one time fee alternative software as well.

Currently I am using Scrapebox which is a one time fee of $67 (i believe) and now I'm looking to purchase Social Bookmarking Demon, but if the price is right with Social Buzz Master then I will go with that.

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