Originally Posted by dlwalsh

With Delavo you can set up as many products, memberships and affilaite programs as you want. Just this is enough for probably 75% of Internet marketers.

And just like when you purchase a car, the extras are additional. So it depends on how much power you want. But the core Delavo is plenty powerful for most people.

Donna

Originally Posted by dlwalsh

And working about 20 hours/day to get them finished.

Originally Posted by John Rowe

Slacker!

Originally Posted by NetMan

Nan,

"Expensive" is VERY relative as a word, and as a fact

I firmly believe the core Delavo(tm) is powerful enough for most users, at least to start making a fair amount of monthly revenue, especially counting that the vast majority is more looker than doer. Plus don't forget that the affiliate program management is included as well in the core version.

The actual plugins for F ranges from 67.00 to 197.00 and John said the new ones will be in the same range. Now if one has Delavo, is a doer, and can make a fair monthly revenue I believe that when the need of a specific plugin to add more power and make MORE REVENUE to one's actual business, is not a question of being "expensive" but more a matter of "investment", don't you think? That is simply the reality.

And like I said previously some will bite their fingers if they don't get it because after May 24th, tough luck, you'll have to be a TMers to get Delavo(tm).

People, stop hesitating and jump on this for your own sake I do not know the price value of the core version but if I compare with what exists I can easily put a price that would range between 497.00 to 997.00, easily...

Regards,

Andre Foisy

Originally Posted by nanohits

You see thats the thing, You guys who all have fantasos assume that everyone is making heaps of money already so everything is relative and cheap. A lot of it is more like fanbois talk.. But I want to see actual comments from a newbie perspective, not from fans of the products who have been using it for years. Sure anyone who has been using it for years and are fans will not say a single thing thats negative about the product. For example I have heard that the program has steep learning curves, but ask someone who has been a fan and used it for years and they will say, rubbish its very simple to use. It's all relative who you ask....

In any case with such positive feedback I sure am looking forward to trying Delavo and can comment once I have used it as I am looking for a program that is fairly easy to use but yet powerful and flexible enough.

Originally Posted by nanohits

You see thats the thing, You guys who all have fantasos assume that everyone is making heaps of money already so everything is relative and cheap. A lot of it is more like fanbois talk.. But I want to see actual comments from a newbie perspective, not from fans of the products who have been using it for years. Sure anyone who has been using it for years and are fans will not say a single thing thats negative about the product. For example I have heard that the program has steep learning curves, but ask someone who has been a fan and used it for years and they will say, rubbish its very simple to use. It's all relative who you ask....

In any case with such positive feedback I sure am looking forward to trying Delavo and can comment once I have used it as I am looking for a program that is fairly easy to use but yet powerful and flexible enough.

Originally Posted by briancol

Hi,

Looks like Delavo is getting close - the system at use-sell has already changed over...

Brian

Originally Posted by John M Kane

I'm an owner of Fantasos and am confused on how Delavo is "Free" when I have emails from John saying I can only get it if I pay "a SYMBOLIC fee" of $297 for the support area.
Am I missing something here?
Thanks

Originally Posted by John M Kane

I'm an owner of Fantasos and am confused on how Delavo is "Free" when I have emails from John saying I can only get it if I pay "a SYMBOLIC fee" of $297 for the support area.
Am I missing something here?
Thanks

Originally Posted by NetMan

Well yes, you've missed a lot

The core D is free, it's basic though still powerful version, but to bring it equal to your F v1.18 it would requires that you buy several plugins. As a F owner you get them free if you correspond to certain conditions which are all explained in the same email you received as a matter of fact, maybe you should read it again carefully.

Regards,

Andre Foisy

Originally Posted by dlwalsh

John sent an email a few days ago that everyone will [WITH] a PAID support subscription does not pay anything at all. There is a thread on the Fantasos forum about this.

Here is a quote from that post:

[ ... ]

Donna

Originally Posted by dlwalsh

LOL No problem Byron.

Donna

Alright there I was wondering if you could help me with something please I see that the script has gone live now, but for some reason at the moment I can no download it..

I keep going to: USe-Sell.com
Copy and paste the username, and password given by the email
And also copy and paste the License number

But every time I try and sudmit it says wrong username and password

I am using the Personal Codes one

Originally Posted by John Delavera

Hi people

No worries.

I had forgot 1 small detail
There is no problem with the new registrations.

All are under control.

Please try again once more and if you have no luck, then submit a ticket to the
helpdesk. Ed & Eric will give guide you.

If you have already opened a ticket you will get a mass email in some minutes.

Sorry about that

John

Originally Posted by Byron_Wells

I must admit that Delavo is not looking great at the moment.. I know that John might be a great coder/designer in a lot of peoples eyes, but for someone new to him its not looking too good...

1) It was suppose to go live sometime last week.. But actually went live about four days later.. I know and understand that people had to get things done, i.e the manuals before they can hand out the product.. Then if that was the case John should not had been advertising until he knew everything was right/done..

2) Since it has gone live. I cant access anything with my login details at all that was supplied via email.. I cant even access the support desk to sudmit a ticket..

Dont get me wrong the script Delavo and the ones he has done in the past might be fanastic but to a newbie to him its put you off with all the problems getting the free script..

I am sort of in limbo at the moment.. I want to get my membership site up and running asap, but I cant...

Originally Posted by briancol

Hi Byron,

I am many others have not had a problem.

I got my Delavo on the 24th and it installed no problem - have you tried The Internet Company - Powered by Kayako SupportSuite Help Desk Software

P.M. me if you like and I will help you work through your problems.

Brian

Originally Posted by dlwalsh

After inserting your domain and clicking on the button, you should scroll back to the bottom of the page where your license number is displayed.

I just downloaded 2x to get licenses fo my installation workshops tonight and on Sat. and had no problems at all either time.

If you missed getting your license number, you need to open a help desk ticket and I will find it for you.

Donna

Originally Posted by dlwalsh

Did you get a notification email about how to download your Delavo? It sent you to an order page and after you inserted you name and email address, you are taken ro a 2nd order page where there is a button the says Get It. There you are taken to a thankyou page where you insert your domain for your license. After inserting the domain and clicking the button, you get that box with your license number.

I have used Fantasos for over 2 years, have sold tens of thousands of dollars worth of products, run 4 memebrships, and hundreds of affiliates. And I get very few support questions. Most problems I have seen are operator error becuse I have done somerhing stupid. I have never had a problem with the way Fantasos, and now Delavo runs.

Donna

Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap

Good for them Brian. I know I haven't been able to download anything. I understand there was a minor glitch when trying to log into the updates section to download Delavo. No problem, things like that happen. Now that I am in, it is asking me for a license number to get the installation package.

What license number? Never got one.

I can see the support problems if I were to incorporate something like this. It really needs to be much simpler from my experience.

Maybe my 15 years of programming experience doesn't help me to help myself as John seems to try to tell others who has a problem with his "system". I found John's response above to be a vainful reply to something others are having a problem with. Instead of listening, it sounds like he blames others for their difficulties.

No problem, I have RAP and love it. Much simpler and the support is excellent. When things go wrong Sid doesn't blame the customer for it but works with them.

Originally Posted by briancol

Hi Thomas,

I see from your postcount and a very impressive number of thankyou's in your mini profile that you are a seasoned warrior so I am certainly not going to suggest that you P.M. me for help :-).

For the benefit of others though, the license number is generated using a form on the bottom of the thank you page once a couple of details are filled in (I always copy and paste this into a notepad file for posterity) - you do have to scroll down to the bottom of the page to see it and there will be a link to the download from here.

Brian

Originally Posted by dlwalsh

Hi Thomas

Did you sign up for the norification list at Delaverianmarketing.com?

A message was sent to all of those on the notification list at just past midnight on Mon. The email was titled Get DELAVO - Instructions

That email contained a link to the order page of Delavo.

I am not sure what emails you received but this email is the one that will get you to your Delavo download.

Donna

Originally Posted by John Delavera

Hi Byron

Here is a part of a message I sent tonight to the DELAVO list.
I hope you got it too and also do hope you can understand that
you are trying to connect 2 different things here:

1) the value of DELAVO of its creator
2) your personal issues.

Enjoy it:

"Instead of blaming the "System" work with it.

I read a blog post today where one talked about
the "fiasco" behind DELAVO's release when
actually what he posted was a description of his
personal fiasco of registering his copy!

I smiled of course, but also added my comment
trying to make him THINK why his case is
different than YOURS for example...

Why didn't he manage to get his DELAVO
when chances are you have already installed it!?

How CAN YOU become a SUCCESSFUL
marketer my friend and SERVE THOUSANDS
OF CUSTOMERS when you cannot SUCCESSFULLY
SERVE only 1 personal first??? YOURSELF!

Especially when you can see HAPPY PEOPLE
around you.... that MANAGED to DO what you
were NOT able to do...

Think about that...

How can YOU TREAT your customers IN A
NOBLE WAY - the way they'd be treated indeed,
when YOU cannot behave yourself... when you
are NOT the perfect example of that NOBLE
behavior that characterizes the successful people
and differentiate from the mass too?

(...)

You have already started a journey here, with us.
You need to follow the trails on that road.

The TRAILS are called INSTRUCTIONS
and also: COMMUNICATION FUNNELS.

Being frustrated you're only HURTING
YOURSELF, not me, not my people."

I do hope you will like the epilogue too.
Needless to say I wrote these lines without seeing your post here.

"Personally speaking
I feel thankful because I failed many times online.
I can talk with you for hours telling you stories
for more than ten years of online failures.
I call them efforts though.

(...)

I also enjoy the daily mistakes and errors I do..

Some times I feel like Goofy indeed...
Or that I am getting older.

But... remember...

It only takes 1-2 peanuts
and Goofy is transformed
to Super Goofy.

Discover those peanuts - we have spread them
all over of our "Systems." Some have the form
of a forum, some others are called Helpdesk...
and some of them are called Super Goofy too.

Or just Goofy...

Being isolated and surrounded by your frustrations
only does not help at all; on the contrary it hurts
your soul.

Ask a Goofy. There is always at least one Goofy in my
forums... the one that is writing these words to you.

And enjoy the journey..."

Originally Posted by dlwalsh

Hi Thomas

I just looked in my database and you did not create a Delavo license. Therefore I do not have a license number for you. That means you did not go through the ordering procedure.

I am not sure why you got that particular email or what generated it. But the email you need is the the one titled Get DELAVO - Instructions.

Did you receive that email just past midnight on Mon?

Donna

Originally Posted by John Delavera

Thomas

Sorry but you have messed things up.

I respect your experience, so you may also respect my
25-year experience with the Net and with what I have
been doing online so far.

So when I say you messed the things I mean it.

Please just accept that from a wiser man and move on.

Blaming the customers is what you said.
I did not say anything like that.

Things are simple - pay attention.

The subscribers of the notification list got a link.
They signed up with that link and once they reached the thank you page
there had been a form there... it's impossible to miss it...

But if you missed it, just log in at use-sell.com/2 and retrieve the
thank you page of the "purchase" - it'll say: DELAVO

That form asks 1 thing from you: the domain name you want
to tie your license too.

And that's it.

Once you give it, you can then get your license ID and
the instructions on how you can download DELAVO.

I can't believe it was that difficult for you with such an experience
when some people with no experience have set it up in seconds.

DELAVO
DELAVO
DELAVO
DELAVO
DELAVO
DELAVO

I hope the URLs are enough.

PLEASE: do not feed the discussion.
I told people there had been a glitch - a human one
but that was it, and it happened during the first hours.
Since then we have more than 4,000 licenses issued.

I respect you as a seller and you know I have bought
many of your products too. So I demand the same
respect here and I feel it's fair feeling that way.


Peace.

John

Originally Posted by John Delavera

Hi Byron

I read a blog post today where one talked about
the "fiasco" behind DELAVO's release when
actually what he posted was a description of his
personal fiasco of registering his copy!

I smiled of course, but also added my comment
trying to make him THINK why his case is
different than YOURS for example...

Why didn't he manage to get his DELAVO
when chances are you have already installed it?"[/I]

Originally Posted by John Delavera

Ari - I return the wishes. Thanks
Thomas - no need to continue this. Sorry if I sounded as an egoist.

Please work with the support team for all issues.

Thanks

Originally Posted by mick535

That's the problem. I didn't have Fantasos before. The new member's area changed and I only received the new Delavo self hosted script as I only joined the Turbo Membership a few days ago during this promotion.

That is why I am concerned that I joined at a bad time and will now lose out while older members will still retain the benefits of the previous version.

Originally Posted by mick535

That's the problem. I didn't have Fantasos before. The new member's area changed and I only received the new Delavo self hosted script as I only joined the Turbo Membership a few days ago during this promotion.

That is why I am concerned that I joined at a bad time and will now lose out while older members will still retain the benefits of the previous version.

Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap

Mick, why do you think you should have the same benefits of members that have been paying for a long time. You just signed up. It sounds like you signed up just to try to get what the longer term members would get.