JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script?

Byron_Wells · 05-15-2009, 04:59 PM

Alright warriors

I am looking for people who have used the JV Manager script to find out if its the best out there....

Or what else would you recommended?

I have recently purchased Easy Member Pro, which does not have all the features that the top level scripts comes with...

Loren Woirhaye · 05-15-2009, 05:08 PM

It's a good software. I have Fantasos. I think you should really
look at the features you want/need and assess what really makes
sense for your business.

TheRichJerksNet · 05-15-2009, 05:59 PM

Byron,
This greatly depends upon what you are using a membership site for ... Will soon be sending you an email for sneak peak also ...

James

TheRichJerksNet · 05-15-2009, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warezguy45

amember is good as well i think. secures all your site properties

I really do hope that is just a fluke in the creation of your forum username ....

James

Al Andrews · 05-15-2009, 06:42 PM

I have the JV Manager script and use it for certain projects. It is a very good script but as James pointed out it depends on what you are using it for.

I thought about getting Fantasos but for what I would use it for I could not justify the purchase cost.

Al

Byron_Wells · 05-15-2009, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Byron,
This greatly depends upon what you are using a membership site for ... Will soon be sending you an email for sneak peak also ...

James

James

No probs keep me posted

TeamGlobal · 05-15-2009, 08:23 PM

Hi Byron,

I've used a number of different membership solutions. I have found Fantasos to be very convenient for running mutiple membership sites from one central control panel.

Best of luck in finding what you need.

All The Best,

Tony

briancol · 05-15-2009, 08:27 PM

Hi Byron,

Which JVManager script?

JVM-1 or Fantasos?

Brian

dvduval · 05-15-2009, 08:28 PM

I searched for Fantasos but I see a message about the product completed its cycle or something. What's up with that?

Kirk Ward · 05-15-2009, 08:35 PM

I have used both JVManager and Fantasos.

They are both powerful and complicated. The developer does not do a good job of explaining them, and he seems to be paranoid about anyone else trying to develop training materials for them.

If you buy from a reseller, you need to find out how well they support the system. Some of the resellers can do a better job of teaching and coaching. I've had good help from Brian Collins and Debbie Songster, but not so good from Donna (forget the last name) or from John himself.

Both Brian and Debbie are big fans of the Fantasos power.

But, there are some areas in which, in addition to being complicated, the software is not as flexible as some people need. So think through your needs very carefully so that you know exactly how you want to work, and then see if one of them can verify that it will do what you want.

Cheers,
Kirk

Kirk Ward · 05-15-2009, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvduval

I searched for Fantasos but I see a message about the product completed its cycle or something. What's up with that?

It means the developer promised lifetime upgrades, so he's ending the products development life and is building a new product. The new product was going to be a new version of Fantasos, until someone reminded him he promised lifetime upgrades. Then it became something else.

Cheers,
Kirk

briancol · 05-15-2009, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvduval

I searched for Fantasos but I see a message about the product completed its cycle or something. What's up with that?

Yes - Fantasos is being replaced by Delavo (TM) - you can see the details at my Let's Explore Together link below.

Brian

P.S. it will be coming for free week commencing 17th.

TheRichJerksNet · 05-15-2009, 11:07 PM

Sure will keep you posted Byron, this is going to be a very powerful membership script that will offer many features many sites do not. It will also be very affordable for many people without selling their home to pay for it...

James

stevenh512 · 05-16-2009, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk Ward

It means the developer promised lifetime upgrades, so he's ending the products development life and is building a new product. The new product was going to be a new version of Fantasos, until someone reminded him he promised lifetime upgrades. Then it became something else.

Cheers,
Kirk

The developer also made it pretty clear on the website for the new product (DELAVO), that current Fantasos owners will get a free upgrade to DELAVO along with any plugins they need to match the same functionality of their current Fantasos installation. Since DELAVO is based on the same "engine" as Fantasos and you're getting a version of it that includes all the same functionality (as well as the ability to add more functionality to it by buying new plugins), I don't see how that violates the promise of "lifetime upgrades" just because the name has been changed.

Scott Anson · 05-16-2009, 12:26 AM

Hi Byron,

JV Manager is a powerful solution for anyone who wants to centralize their marketing efforts. JVM's replacement, Fantasos, is even more powerful than JVM was.
Easy Member Pro and amember cannot even be compared to Fantasos because they just are not in the same league. Fantasos has the ability to do nearly anything you can throw at it:
Integration with Numerous Pay Points including Paypal and Clickbank
Clickbank Affiliate Program integration
Affiliate Instant Bonus Delivery
Links directories
Banner Rotator
Custom Tags
Quick Resell
Questionnaires
Control User's Opt-Out Settings
Test Mode in Mass Mail
Testimonials
JV Event Manager
One Time Offers
Taxes
Shipping for physical Products
Coupons
Minisites
JV Products
Rewards
Points Systems
Integration with Aweber
Follow Up Manager
Invoices
Dynamic Pricing

This is not an exhaustive list, it goes on and on!
It will Not make coffee nor fry eggs, sorry...
But it will help you sell recipes and track everything you do.

It is so powerful that there's a few people that just cannot get their head around it. They want Ferrari capabilities with horse & buggy control panel. It takes time and effort to master but it comes with complete user manuals and videos.

And yes, it is being replaced by Delavo.
And yes, Delavo will be free for one week.
And although I haven't personally got into the cockpit yet, it is said that even granny can run it.

So, even I should be safe to take it for a spin

LastWarrior · 05-16-2009, 12:33 AM

Interesting question. I too have interests in membership scripts, but that's in the future and this post strikes up new questions I never thought of. While many are saying to get the one that serves you best.... how is that possible when one is not sure how to determine what is best?

Sounds like Fantasos is the one to get, but what if one needs something more simple?

I don't have any irons in the fire yet about getting a membership offer up, but what if I a membership with some downloads, PDF's and viewable videos to train and learn from.... I'm not sure or know why someone would need something complicated for that. ?? Seems to me something less than Fantasos would be ok. Not sure, just thinking.

LastWarrior

Robert24 · 05-16-2009, 12:34 AM

I personally love amember. I've got 3 licenses which manage all of my membership sites and I've never had one problem.

It's probably not the best if you're technically challenged as you have to manually manage the members area (eg create your own pages etc..., as well as playing around with php and html if you want to personalize the style).

In regards to product security, I believe amember is the best.

Adhiet · 05-16-2009, 12:44 AM

i'm using amember several times and was a great tool.....

jonb · 05-16-2009, 01:08 AM

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Jon
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dlwalsh · 05-16-2009, 03:40 AM

I think it is real funny that the person who was told to either read the manuals or pay for a consultation instead of wasting hours and hours of the Fantasos forum moderators time EVERY day when he could easily find the answers in the manuals is the only person who has something negative to say about Fantasos. And BOTH moderators got tired of answering numerous questions every day, questions that could be answered by just reading the manuals. But because of laziness on that person's part, the moderators spent hours answering the simplest questions.

And I find it REALLY funny that although I write all the manuals, the help files, and hold a monthly 6 hour workshop on Fantasos teaching advanced procedures that I am not good at teaching. LOL That makes me laugh since I also spend approx 15 hours per week just consulting on Fantasos and am booked 3 weeks in advance. So if I can't teach, why do I have 15 people at my workshops (the maximum I will take) and approx 10 consults every week?

As far as reseller's go, ONLY JV Manager 1 is available from a reseller. John sold the MRR to it on the condition that the reseller supported his/her customers. Fantasos was NEVER available through a reseller. So don't believe erroneous information that has been posted here on this forum by someone that has turned people against him because of his continous negative attitude.

Fantasos is a complete business platform and is now being replaced by Delavo which is much simpler. And yes, I am again the only person (and only person authorized by John) who is writing the manuals, the help files and holding free workshops to teach people how to use Delavo.

And Delavo is not a new version of Fantasos as the code has been rewritten. So Kirk, get your facts straight before you start spouting garbage.

Don't listen to someone that is a very negative person. Listen to what everyone else is saying about the very best business platform available.

Donna

dlwalsh · 05-16-2009, 03:53 AM

Fantasos and now Delavo leave EVERY other platform in the dust. NONE come even close to what Fantasos and Delavo can do.

And it is the most secure platform available. People have tried to hack it and ALL have failed.

Donna

stevenh512 · 05-16-2009, 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlwalsh

And Delavo is not a new version of Fantasos as the code has been changed. So Kirk, get your facts right before you start spouting garbage.

While it's not really a "new version of Fantasos" John has said that it's based on the "same engine" as Fantasos and that current Fantasos owners will get a free upgrade, including all the plugins that will give them the same functionality as Fantasos. With a deal like that I don't see how anyone using Fantasos can complain too much.. they can either stick with what they're already using, or upgrade free to the new system with all the plugins (and as I understand it, the plugins will come at an extra cost for the rest of us). To me that seems like John going out of his way to honor the promise of "free upgrades for life" for those who want to upgrade.

dlwalsh · 05-16-2009, 04:19 AM

What could be a better price then free? Delavo will be free for one week and it will do more than just run a membership site. It will centralize your entire Internet business.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Sure will keep you posted Byron, this is going to be a very powerful membership script that will offer many features many sites do not. It will also be very affordable for many people without selling their home to pay for it...

James

Donna

John Delavera · 05-16-2009, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirk Ward

It means the developer promised lifetime upgrades, so he's ending the products development life and is building a new product. The new product was going to be a new version of Fantasos, until someone reminded him he promised lifetime upgrades. Then it became something else.

Cheers,
Kirk

Kirk

I am becoming paranoid with statements like that one, because you
see everything through your own spectrum, ignoring ANY other color
except from yours, which in most of the cases is black.

So please do me a favor and be good.

You forgot to tell people that ALL customers of Fantasos get DELAVO
for free as an UPGRADE - as promised.

You forgot to tell people that ex JVManager users also got Fantasos
for free, an an UPGRADE and as promised.

You forgot to tell people that even JVManager users that paid less
then $50, ALSO have an option to get DELAVO for free along with all
the plugins that make it equal to Fantasos.

In sum: you forgot to describe all the other beautiful colors of the
spectrum apart from the black one, which equals to the color of
the dark and you know that it's quite difficult for someone to find
in the dark where truth stands, especially in a public forum.

You have the liberty to enjoy your personal sphere of freedom and
continue with your logic and way of thinking and be as much black
as you want, for as long you do not penetrate my personal sphere
of freedom by insulting to my colors, that are certainly not black,
unless you hit me.

As for the paranoia you mentioned, yes I did not want anyone to
start publishing "manuals" about Fantasos because just imagine:

WITH the official manuals offered of more than 1000 pages in total
and all the videos, there are people like you that see everything black.

What would then happen if someone that has a talent to produce
terrible "manuals" by describing 1/2 of the functionality, started
delivering those manuals online...

What if many others that have the same talent started creating
manuals only for monetizing on that "help" presented as a "need"
ONLY by those that decided to count on "free" support instead
of following the official paths and thus be happy turbo customers....

Give people (and me) a break please.

John

stevenh512 · 05-16-2009, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Delavera

You forgot to tell people that even JVManager users that paid less
then $50, ALSO have an option to get DELAVO for free along with all
the plugins that make it equal to Fantasos.

Now this I wasn't aware of. Just curious, does this include people who bought the original JVManager through a reseller? DELAVO alone looks like a pretty powerful system, but to have all the plugins that make it do everything Fantasos can do would be awesome.

1 Marketing · 05-16-2009, 04:56 AM

okey John Delavera,

You seem tough on Kirk... Well we can here just either confirm that JV Manager is the best membership script or give our suggestion. I must say if Byron_Wells has baught Easy Member Pro and not satisfied then let him try JV Manager.

JV Manager certainly has some extra feature as compared to commonly used scripts.

dlwalsh · 05-16-2009, 05:04 AM

I think Kirk was pretty tough on John and it was NOT warranted.

Donna

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1 Marketing

okey John Delavera,

You seem tough on Kirk... Well we can here just either confirm that JV Manager is the best membership script or give our suggestion. I must say if Byron_Wells has baught Easy Member Pro and not satisfied then let him try JV Manager.

JV Manager certainly has some extra feature as compared to commonly used scripts.

Byron_Wells · 05-16-2009, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye

It's a good software. I have Fantasos. I think you should really
look at the features you want/need and assess what really makes
sense for your business.

I hear that Fantasos is about $3000 or something like that.. Way way expensive for the normal average joe

Byron_Wells · 05-16-2009, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by briancol

Hi Byron,

Which JVManager script?

JVM-1 or Fantasos?

Brian

I was at the time looking at JV Manager 1... But I am open to any suggestions

dlwalsh · 05-16-2009, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byron_Wells

I hear that Fantasos is about $3000 or something like that.. Way way expensive for the normal average joe

Hi Byron

Yes it was but you can no longer even buy Fantasos. But you can get Delavo for free. And I think everyone can afford that!

Donna

Byron_Wells · 05-16-2009, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvduval

I searched for Fantasos but I see a message about the product completed its cycle or something. What's up with that?

That's true.. They are moving onto a next product I believe called Delavo (something along those lines) Its suppose to be a better but smaller version of both JV Manager 1 and Fantasos..

What I mean is they have totally revamped the code, and made it a lot easier for us no techincal minded people out there to use, but still will tons and tons more added features/benifits

Byron_Wells · 05-16-2009, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlwalsh

Hi Byron

Yes it was but you can no longer even buy Fantasos. But you can get Delavo for free. And I think everyone can afford that!

Donna

Im looking into at the moment.. Already on the Notification lists for when it goes live tomorrow.. I did notice something, that certains bits are not included, such as oto part.. Howerver you have to buy a plugin to get that feature, Im just wondering how much roughly would the plugins be??

TanB · 05-16-2009, 08:53 AM

Kirk

I don't like taking other people's role (moderators), but please read the first rule of this forum:

"The main overriding rule for this forum is this:

If you have a problem with another Warrior, a Guru, or God, take it up with them directly. Not here. No exceptions."

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ead-first.html

Apparently you got tired asking your questions and started trying to spread the "bad word" about Fantasos in other forums. As an FYI: answers of all your questions can be found in Fantasos manuals created by Donna Walsh which has done an excellent job documenting how this Internet Marketing spacecship (Fantasos) works, as well as in online Fantasos help. Probably, the only "How To" missing in those manuals is: "How To prepare a coffee, using Fantasos"...

Regarding your:

Quote:

So think through your needs very carefully so that you know exactly how you want to work, and then see if one of them can verify that it will do what you want.

before preaching this, you should apply that thinking to yourself... In Fantasos case: to me all comes down to a very simple question: "love it or leave it!" Apparently you don't love it. Then leave it! It is this simple...

Regarding the new tool, Delavo (TM), from what is being published so far it looks very, very user friendly and not only Fantasos users, but every newbie will be able to start using it as soon as (s)he is sitting in the driver's seat

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1 Marketing.

...Well we can here just either confirm that JV Manager is the best membership script or give our suggestion...

We are not being forced to confirm that something is the BEST membership site, ebook, script, video, etc, etc... We all are giving our opinions and yes, we can give suggestions, but should be more considerate and without throwing mud, because as they say: "Your freedom to swing your fist stops where other's face begins"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byron_Wells

...Howerver you have to buy a plugin to get that feature, I'm just wondering how much roughly would the plugins be??

Byron,

John is giving the gun for free and he is charging only for the bullets we need, which is a very, very smart way of marketing (Hats off to John Delavera one more time for showing a great marketing method!). Knowing the way he deals with his subscribers, I don't think John will be asking for an arm and a leg to get the bullets (plugins) we need... Although being an average Joe, I can confirm that by getting Fantasos when was released through a MegaEvent, I did get much more value for my money that what I paid for (I really mean it). Again, it all comes down to a very simple situation: be more open minded and, get the bigger picture... and do your part because Fantasos/Delavo, etc are only tools (great tools, indeed). We are the ones that should put them to work...

That is all I can say

TanB

Loren Woirhaye · 05-16-2009, 10:17 AM

I concur - Fantasos is SECURE! - if that is important to
you it's worth checking out. Presumably the new Delavo
platform will be secure the same way, engineered from
the ground up for reliability.

I'm not gushing - I've had my aggravations with Fantasos too -
like any advanced software YOU have to adapt to the way it
does things, and because it has a lot of flexibility there is
a cognitive bridge you have to build between what you want
you customers to experience and how to set up Fantasos to
do it. There is a solid logic behind it but if you want to do
fancy things you need to pay attention to the details.

John Delavera · 05-16-2009, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1 Marketing

okey John Delavera,

You seem tough on Kirk... Well we can here just either confirm that JV Manager is the best membership script or give our suggestion. I must say if Byron_Wells has baught Easy Member Pro and not satisfied then let him try JV Manager.

JV Manager certainly has some extra feature as compared to commonly used scripts.

My answer was not related to the question of the thread
and sorry for being personal. Bad way to deal with business, being
personal, that is, but some times that little human inside you cannot
shut up, especially when he is right.

As for the question of this thread, for me there is no question.

There is a history that started with JVManager, then Fantasos
and now DELAVO.

So DELAVO is the best. And free too, for 7 days.

Every other solution follows.

I can explain the reasons here but I think this will turn to the
deletion of the thread.

You may say I am biased; I am but I have been seeing it this way:

Even if you want something added to the platform
I shall add it. I assume not many people can guarantee
that, thus you can figure it out.

Scott Anson · 05-16-2009, 11:14 AM

Hi Byron,

I want to add just a few more points here for your consideration.

Delavo is FREE for the week of May 17. That's an easy price to pay.
Fantasos is no longer available, period!
Now, John may offer resale rights to Fantasos in the future as he did with JVM-1. Who knows?
JVM-1 is still available through resellers.
I am one of those resellers. But if I were to make a recommendation, I would recommend that You get it from Brian Collins. He probably has the best understanding of JVM-1 out of all the resellers, that I am aware of.
When I need help with JVM-1, that's who I call. That's also who John recommended to me too.
As far as this controversy goes...well I say controversy helps inform those of us who don't know about the issues. If one person is unhappy with a product, and they express that. Then a whole gang of people jump in to defend the product as well as the product creator, that says as much about the product and the creator as it does the sour puss.
Last but not least!
John said Delavo will always be available to TurboMembers, even after his Birthday event.

I hope that helps!

Your friend,
Scott

dlwalsh · 05-16-2009, 11:29 AM

Why would anyone want to purchase JVmanager 1 when they can get Delavo for free?

While JV Manager 1 was a great script, it is out of date. And even though I am a reseller, I am telling ALL of my subscribers and customers to get Delavo.

Donna

nathanro · 05-16-2009, 11:30 AM

If you want a good membership site script, PLUS the ability to run your entire online business in every single aspect, without having to re-install, re-setup, re-do, then you are in for a treat with Delavo.

I have tried and tested all membership scripts that are out there, heck I own ones that I can resell hosted accounts at, but there is only 1 script that makes sense, that is easy to use, that is secure and that does not limit me in my growth.

That has been Fantasos, now it is Delavo.

This is my honest opinion, and as a reviewer I am willing to put one on one to the test and show you why I strongly hold this belief.

And when I say I have tried them all, I have tried them all.

The ease of use of Fantasos, of Delavo allows you to use any program to create the website and then just add the control of security in a couple of simple steps, you can literally have unlimited levels of access, and control every aspect of your marketing and sales.

The only limit that I see to that script, is the limit of my imagination.

Nathan

Edwin Green · 05-16-2009, 11:34 AM

The short answer to the "Topic" is Yes!

At its creation it "Was The Best and Most Complete" solution available!
John kept his coders busy making sure it would stay that way!

It is still available through those who purchased the Master Reseller licenses.

When the Internet Demanded "More" John stepped up with Fantasos (TM)

Again "No Other Script" could or would compete with what was offered.
John again kept his coders busy adding "Every Feature" his people asked for.

And Donna Walsh "The Turbo Lady" did a Masterful Job of creating
Very Detailed instructions on the use and implementation of Fantasos (TM)
and it's plug-ins.

Now the internet has changed again (Grown) and something More is Needed.

Again John has stepped up to the plate and brought us "Delavo" (TM)

This time John is giving it freely to everyone who asks for it. Everyone
who is trying to run a business online will see this software as a God Send!

They will not be "Forced" to purchase a system to handle a single offering
any longer. With Delavo (TM) they will be able to centralize all of their
internet business to one centralized location. Their Main Website!

From there they will be able to control their entire internet empire.

Delavo (TM) is so easy to use that a 6 year old should have no
trouble understanding what to do and how to do it.

The end user will have the option of adding any functionality
to the core of "Delavo" (TM) through the use of plug-ins that s/he
wants as they want it.

No other script can offer this. So in my opinion getting Delavo (TM)
on the week of May 17th is a no brainier.

Kirk Ward · 05-16-2009, 12:13 PM

It seems my opinion has sparked some harsh responses. That doesn't surprise me.

The quote below is a private message I received from one of the persons mentioned in my post.
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Interpret it as you will. I was expressing my opinion, based on the messages I received and the responses I have been given. This response seems to support what I run into in conversations with others who have abandoned the software.

Although I will go back and do it, I have not read all the responses from the involved parties, and I probably won't respond.

I will state that mechanically the software is excellent. It is very powerful and has many features that other softwares lack.

It is understanding it and getting how to use it questions answered that is difficult and confusing and why I feel I have received better support from users than the developer and his lovely assistant. It is also a common thread among others I encounter, even when they are thrilled with it's power. The lack of some flexibility in the script is a result of its structure, not its power. And, the structure is fine for many users. Each software has its limitations.

So now, as promised, here is the quote from the moderater of the Fantasos support forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlwalsh

You are such an asshole!
Don't ever and I mean EVER ask me any questions about either Fantasos or Delavo because you will never get an answer from me again.

Ever heard the saying "Bite off your nose to spite your face"? Well you sure did.

Donna

Now Donna, that was downright tacky. And very similar to your response when I was asking questions about how to use certain features of the script.

Jeez.
Kirk

Kirk Ward · 05-16-2009, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TanB

Kirk

I don't like taking other people's role (moderators), but please read the first rule of this forum:

"The main overriding rule for this forum is this:

If you have a problem with another Warrior, a Guru, or God, take it up with them directly. Not here. No exceptions."

Tan,

The original post asked a question. I answered it.

If you had read my post, you would see that I mentioned that Fantasos is very powerful.

You also said "Love it or leave it." I have no problem with the software, only the difficulty of learning to use it, which is a very big consideration for anyone buying any sort of software these days. Not just will it be kept up to date, but "Can I use it?"
You can see from the litany of posts about the software that many people recognize its power. You can also see see some say you have to accept it as being hard to understand.

I don't need hard to understand. I need clarity in the written word.

Kirk

dlwalsh · 05-16-2009, 12:28 PM

Jeez Kirk

Truth hurts, doesn't it! And when I am publicly attacked, I WILL retaliate.

And No, I will not answer any questions from you about Fantasos OR Delavo as you have attacked me on the Fantasos forum as well as here. Didn't your mother ever teach you NOT to bite the hand that feeds you? Or as I said, You bit off your nose to spite your face. Why should I waste my VERY valuable time with you when there are many people who are much more worthy?

And IF you had read the manuals, YOU would have found the answers to all of your VERY simple questions that WERE answered in the manuals.

Should I post here some of the LENGTHY questions you posted on the Fantasos forum? And then my answers? Threads that spanned hours, threads in which you were told to read the manuals as you would find the answers there. Answers that were readily found in the manuals but you were too lazy to read?

As I told you on the Fantasos forum, it was not MY job to teach you how to use Fantasos. For that you needed to READ the manuals or pay for a consultation. You didn't like that response and from that day forward attacked me and John. Just as you have done here.

Your byline under your pic says it all.

Donna

dlwalsh · 05-16-2009, 12:31 PM

Maybe the reason Fantasos is hard to understand is because of the user

I LEARNED Fantasos without any help files and without any manuals in just 10 days. I had to as John asked me to write the help files.

So I can't understand why anyone can't do the same when they have manuals, videos, help files and a forum.

Donna

Alminc · 05-16-2009, 12:39 PM

JV Manager / Fantasos is much more than membership management system. Memberships are only one of many features in Fantasos.

If you are looking for the script that is specialised for membership sites, then aMember Pro is the answer. It has no bugs at all, many integration modules, it's stable, reliable software. Also very simple to use and extremely cheap for what you get.

Byron_Wells · 05-16-2009, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet

Sure will keep you posted Byron, this is going to be a very powerful membership script that will offer many features many sites do not. It will also be very affordable for many people without selling their home to pay for it...

James

James you do know its Saturday lol lol

Byron_Wells · 05-16-2009, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlwalsh

Maybe the reason Fantasos is hard to understand is because of the user

I LEARNED Fantasos without any help files and without any manuals in just 10 days. I had to as John asked me to write the help files.

So I can't understand why anyone can't do the same when they have manuals, videos, help files and a forum.

Donna

Donna

Thanks for you lovely advice.. I do apologise for the other warrior in here if he upsetting you.. I only asked for advice, not for people to get into a fight over it lol...

I have looked at amember but the only bit that scares me of it is the actual coding side..I have html knowledge, but very limited php knowledge.. I dont really want to spend loads on money on a script then have to spend loads more on a coder to programe it

dlwalsh · 05-16-2009, 01:20 PM

LOL No problem Byron.

I should not have lost my temper as I have dealt with that person in the past and know what he is like.

But honestly, if you are looking for a membership script, do yourself a favor and get Delavo.

Not only will you be able to create unlimited memberships, but you can also create unlimited Products/Packages for all your products. And to show you how simple Delavo is, I can set up my Product, attach it to a Package, PLUS edit the templates so that the order pages and thank you page look just like my sales site and I can do that in 30 minutes. Yes I have done it multiple times so I am very fast at it but even fumbling along, it won't take you more than an hour maybe an 1 1/2 at the most.

Plus, you can set up and maintain unlimited affiliate programs. And Delavo supports UNLIMITED tiered commissions. So if you wanted to pay someone commissions at even the 100th tier, you can.

Now what other script offers that?

Plus, I will teach all new Delavo owners (well, minus one

) through FREE 4 hour workshops to be held 2x per week (Wed and Sat) for at least 3 months.

So since the platform is free, you will get manuals, videos, contextual help files, a forum, and workshops also for free. getting Delavo should be a no brainer!

So get Delavo and try it out. You really have nothing to lose.

Donna

Steve Crooks · 05-16-2009, 01:26 PM

I am also deciding between memberspeed, delavo and amember pro.. It is a shame to see the dirty linen being washed in public here on this thread like that. However, I look forward to trying all three and will make a decision based on each platform's merits.

Byron_Wells · 05-16-2009, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Crooks

I am also deciding between memberspeed, delavo and amember pro.. It is a shame to see the dirty linen being washed in public here on this thread like that. However, I look forward to trying all three and will make a decision based on each platform's merits.

Memberspeed, can you tell me more about that one please?

Byron_Wells · 05-16-2009, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlwalsh

LOL No problem Byron.

I should not have lost my temper as I have dealt with that person in the past and know what he is like.

But honestly, if you are looking for a membership script, do yourself a favor and get Delavo.

Not only will you be able to create unlimited memberships, but you can also create unlimited Products/Packages for all your products. And to show you how simple Delavo is, I can set up my Product, attach it to a Package, PLUS edit the templates so that the order pages and thank you page look just like my sales site and I can do that in 30 minutes. Yes I have done it multiple times so I am very fast at it but even fumbling along, it won't take you more than an hour maybe an 1 1/2 at the most.

Plus, you can set up and maintain unlimited affiliate programs. And Delavo supports UNLIMITED tiered commissions. So if you wanted to pay someone commissions at even the 100th tier, you can.

Now what other script offers that?

Plus, I will teach all new Delavo owners (well, minus one

) through FREE 4 hour workshops to be held 2x per week (Wed and Sat) for at least 3 months.

So since the platform is free, you will get manuals, videos, contextual help files, a forum, and workshops also for free. getting Delavo should be a no brainer!

So get Delavo and try it out. You really have nothing to lose.

Donna

Donna

I am wondering, I heard somewhere that Delavo comes with a wusiswug editor? Is that true??

05-15-2009, 04:59 PM	#1
Byron_Wells HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 386 Thanks: 26 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? Alright warriors I am looking for people who have used the JV Manager script to find out if its the best out there.... Or what else would you recommended? I have recently purchased Easy Member Pro, which does not have all the features that the top level scripts comes with...

05-15-2009, 05:08 PM	#2
Loren Woirhaye gypsy musician War Room Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Amherst, Massachusetts Posts: 3,068 Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 68 Thanked 453 Times in 326 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? It's a good software. I have Fantasos. I think you should really look at the features you want/need and assess what really makes sense for your business.
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05-15-2009, 05:59 PM	#3
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05-15-2009, 06:42 PM	#5
Al Andrews Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: , , USA. Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? I have the JV Manager script and use it for certain projects. It is a very good script but as James pointed out it depends on what you are using it for. I thought about getting Fantasos but for what I would use it for I could not justify the purchase cost. Al

05-15-2009, 08:23 PM	#7
TeamGlobal Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 789 Thanks: 14 Thanked 18 Times in 13 Posts	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? Hi Byron, I've used a number of different membership solutions. I have found Fantasos to be very convenient for running mutiple membership sites from one central control panel. Best of luck in finding what you need. All The Best, Tony
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05-15-2009, 08:27 PM	#8
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05-15-2009, 08:28 PM	#9
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05-15-2009, 08:35 PM	#10
Kirk Ward Old, tired and ugly coot War Room Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ellijay, GA, USA. (Talk about being in the woods!) Posts: 1,035 Thanks: 94 Thanked 24 Times in 20 Posts Social Networking	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? I have used both JVManager and Fantasos. They are both powerful and complicated. The developer does not do a good job of explaining them, and he seems to be paranoid about anyone else trying to develop training materials for them. If you buy from a reseller, you need to find out how well they support the system. Some of the resellers can do a better job of teaching and coaching. I've had good help from Brian Collins and Debbie Songster, but not so good from Donna (forget the last name) or from John himself. Both Brian and Debbie are big fans of the Fantasos power. But, there are some areas in which, in addition to being complicated, the software is not as flexible as some people need. So think through your needs very carefully so that you know exactly how you want to work, and then see if one of them can verify that it will do what you want. Cheers, Kirk
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05-15-2009, 11:07 PM	#13
TheRichJerksNet PhpMembersScript.com War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: South Carolina, USA Posts: 4,670 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 451 Thanked 750 Times in 485 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? Sure will keep you posted Byron, this is going to be a very powerful membership script that will offer many features many sites do not. It will also be very affordable for many people without selling their home to pay for it... James
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05-16-2009, 12:26 AM	#15
Scott Anson HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ USA Posts: 139 Thanks: 9 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? Hi Byron, JV Manager is a powerful solution for anyone who wants to centralize their marketing efforts. JVM's replacement, Fantasos, is even more powerful than JVM was. Easy Member Pro and amember cannot even be compared to Fantasos because they just are not in the same league. Fantasos has the ability to do nearly anything you can throw at it: Integration with Numerous Pay Points including Paypal and Clickbank Clickbank Affiliate Program integration Affiliate Instant Bonus Delivery Links directories Banner Rotator Custom Tags Quick Resell Questionnaires Control User's Opt-Out Settings Test Mode in Mass Mail Testimonials JV Event Manager One Time Offers Taxes Shipping for physical Products Coupons Minisites JV Products Rewards Points Systems Integration with Aweber Follow Up Manager Invoices Dynamic Pricing This is not an exhaustive list, it goes on and on! It will Not make coffee nor fry eggs, sorry... But it will help you sell recipes and track everything you do. It is so powerful that there's a few people that just cannot get their head around it. They want Ferrari capabilities with horse & buggy control panel. It takes time and effort to master but it comes with complete user manuals and videos. And yes, it is being replaced by Delavo. And yes, Delavo will be free for one week. And although I haven't personally got into the cockpit yet, it is said that even granny can run it. So, even I should be safe to take it for a spin
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05-16-2009, 12:33 AM	#16
LastWarrior Active Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 70 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? Interesting question. I too have interests in membership scripts, but that's in the future and this post strikes up new questions I never thought of. While many are saying to get the one that serves you best.... how is that possible when one is not sure how to determine what is best? Sounds like Fantasos is the one to get, but what if one needs something more simple? I don't have any irons in the fire yet about getting a membership offer up, but what if I a membership with some downloads, PDF's and viewable videos to train and learn from.... I'm not sure or know why someone would need something complicated for that. ?? Seems to me something less than Fantasos would be ok. Not sure, just thinking. LastWarrior

05-16-2009, 12:34 AM	#17
Robert24 Banned War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 33 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? I personally love amember. I've got 3 licenses which manage all of my membership sites and I've never had one problem. It's probably not the best if you're technically challenged as you have to manually manage the members area (eg create your own pages etc..., as well as playing around with php and html if you want to personalize the style). In regards to product security, I believe amember is the best.

05-16-2009, 12:44 AM	#18
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05-16-2009, 01:08 AM	#19
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05-16-2009, 03:40 AM	#20
dlwalsh HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas, Nv, USA. Posts: 275 Thanks: 10 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? I think it is real funny that the person who was told to either read the manuals or pay for a consultation instead of wasting hours and hours of the Fantasos forum moderators time EVERY day when he could easily find the answers in the manuals is the only person who has something negative to say about Fantasos. And BOTH moderators got tired of answering numerous questions every day, questions that could be answered by just reading the manuals. But because of laziness on that person's part, the moderators spent hours answering the simplest questions. And I find it REALLY funny that although I write all the manuals, the help files, and hold a monthly 6 hour workshop on Fantasos teaching advanced procedures that I am not good at teaching. LOL That makes me laugh since I also spend approx 15 hours per week just consulting on Fantasos and am booked 3 weeks in advance. So if I can't teach, why do I have 15 people at my workshops (the maximum I will take) and approx 10 consults every week? As far as reseller's go, ONLY JV Manager 1 is available from a reseller. John sold the MRR to it on the condition that the reseller supported his/her customers. Fantasos was NEVER available through a reseller. So don't believe erroneous information that has been posted here on this forum by someone that has turned people against him because of his continous negative attitude. Fantasos is a complete business platform and is now being replaced by Delavo which is much simpler. And yes, I am again the only person (and only person authorized by John) who is writing the manuals, the help files and holding free workshops to teach people how to use Delavo. And Delavo is not a new version of Fantasos as the code has been rewritten. So Kirk, get your facts straight before you start spouting garbage. Don't listen to someone that is a very negative person. Listen to what everyone else is saying about the very best business platform available. Donna
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05-16-2009, 03:53 AM	#21
dlwalsh HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas, Nv, USA. Posts: 275 Thanks: 10 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? Fantasos and now Delavo leave EVERY other platform in the dust. NONE come even close to what Fantasos and Delavo can do. And it is the most secure platform available. People have tried to hack it and ALL have failed. Donna
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05-16-2009, 04:56 AM	#26
1 Marketing HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 201 Thanks: 3 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? okey John Delavera, You seem tough on Kirk... Well we can here just either confirm that JV Manager is the best membership script or give our suggestion. I must say if Byron_Wells has baught Easy Member Pro and not satisfied then let him try JV Manager. JV Manager certainly has some extra feature as compared to commonly used scripts.

05-16-2009, 10:17 AM	#34
Loren Woirhaye gypsy musician War Room Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Amherst, Massachusetts Posts: 3,068 Blog Entries: 10 Thanks: 68 Thanked 453 Times in 326 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? I concur - Fantasos is SECURE! - if that is important to you it's worth checking out. Presumably the new Delavo platform will be secure the same way, engineered from the ground up for reliability. I'm not gushing - I've had my aggravations with Fantasos too - like any advanced software YOU have to adapt to the way it does things, and because it has a lot of flexibility there is a cognitive bridge you have to build between what you want you customers to experience and how to set up Fantasos to do it. There is a solid logic behind it but if you want to do fancy things you need to pay attention to the details.
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05-16-2009, 11:14 AM	#36
Scott Anson HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ USA Posts: 139 Thanks: 9 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? Hi Byron, I want to add just a few more points here for your consideration. Delavo is FREE for the week of May 17. That's an easy price to pay. Fantasos is no longer available, period! Now, John may offer resale rights to Fantasos in the future as he did with JVM-1. Who knows? JVM-1 is still available through resellers. I am one of those resellers. But if I were to make a recommendation, I would recommend that You get it from Brian Collins. He probably has the best understanding of JVM-1 out of all the resellers, that I am aware of. When I need help with JVM-1, that's who I call. That's also who John recommended to me too. As far as this controversy goes...well I say controversy helps inform those of us who don't know about the issues. If one person is unhappy with a product, and they express that. Then a whole gang of people jump in to defend the product as well as the product creator, that says as much about the product and the creator as it does the sour puss. Last but not least! John said Delavo will always be available to TurboMembers, even after his Birthday event. I hope that helps! Your friend, Scott
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05-16-2009, 11:29 AM	#37
dlwalsh HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas, Nv, USA. Posts: 275 Thanks: 10 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? Why would anyone want to purchase JVmanager 1 when they can get Delavo for free? While JV Manager 1 was a great script, it is out of date. And even though I am a reseller, I am telling ALL of my subscribers and customers to get Delavo. Donna
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05-16-2009, 11:30 AM	#38
nathanro SpiritualMarketer Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mexico. Posts: 235 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? If you want a good membership site script, PLUS the ability to run your entire online business in every single aspect, without having to re-install, re-setup, re-do, then you are in for a treat with Delavo. I have tried and tested all membership scripts that are out there, heck I own ones that I can resell hosted accounts at, but there is only 1 script that makes sense, that is easy to use, that is secure and that does not limit me in my growth. That has been Fantasos, now it is Delavo. This is my honest opinion, and as a reviewer I am willing to put one on one to the test and show you why I strongly hold this belief. And when I say I have tried them all, I have tried them all. The ease of use of Fantasos, of Delavo allows you to use any program to create the website and then just add the control of security in a couple of simple steps, you can literally have unlimited levels of access, and control every aspect of your marketing and sales. The only limit that I see to that script, is the limit of my imagination. Nathan
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05-16-2009, 11:34 AM	#39
Edwin Green Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Clarion, PA, USA. Posts: 25 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? The short answer to the "Topic" is Yes! At its creation it "Was The Best and Most Complete" solution available! John kept his coders busy making sure it would stay that way! It is still available through those who purchased the Master Reseller licenses. When the Internet Demanded "More" John stepped up with Fantasos (TM) Again "No Other Script" could or would compete with what was offered. John again kept his coders busy adding "Every Feature" his people asked for. And Donna Walsh "The Turbo Lady" did a Masterful Job of creating Very Detailed instructions on the use and implementation of Fantasos (TM) and it's plug-ins. Now the internet has changed again (Grown) and something More is Needed. Again John has stepped up to the plate and brought us "Delavo" (TM) This time John is giving it freely to everyone who asks for it. Everyone who is trying to run a business online will see this software as a God Send! They will not be "Forced" to purchase a system to handle a single offering any longer. With Delavo (TM) they will be able to centralize all of their internet business to one centralized location. Their Main Website! From there they will be able to control their entire internet empire. Delavo (TM) is so easy to use that a 6 year old should have no trouble understanding what to do and how to do it. The end user will have the option of adding any functionality to the core of "Delavo" (TM) through the use of plug-ins that s/he wants as they want it. No other script can offer this. So in my opinion getting Delavo (TM) on the week of May 17th is a no brainier.
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05-16-2009, 12:28 PM	#42
dlwalsh HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas, Nv, USA. Posts: 275 Thanks: 10 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? Jeez Kirk Truth hurts, doesn't it! And when I am publicly attacked, I WILL retaliate. And No, I will not answer any questions from you about Fantasos OR Delavo as you have attacked me on the Fantasos forum as well as here. Didn't your mother ever teach you NOT to bite the hand that feeds you? Or as I said, You bit off your nose to spite your face. Why should I waste my VERY valuable time with you when there are many people who are much more worthy? And IF you had read the manuals, YOU would have found the answers to all of your VERY simple questions that WERE answered in the manuals. Should I post here some of the LENGTHY questions you posted on the Fantasos forum? And then my answers? Threads that spanned hours, threads in which you were told to read the manuals as you would find the answers there. Answers that were readily found in the manuals but you were too lazy to read? As I told you on the Fantasos forum, it was not MY job to teach you how to use Fantasos. For that you needed to READ the manuals or pay for a consultation. You didn't like that response and from that day forward attacked me and John. Just as you have done here. Your byline under your pic says it all. Donna
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05-16-2009, 12:31 PM	#43
dlwalsh HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas, Nv, USA. Posts: 275 Thanks: 10 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? Maybe the reason Fantasos is hard to understand is because of the user I LEARNED Fantasos without any help files and without any manuals in just 10 days. I had to as John asked me to write the help files. So I can't understand why anyone can't do the same when they have manuals, videos, help files and a forum. Donna
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05-16-2009, 12:39 PM	#44
Alminc Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Stockholm , Sweden. Posts: 844 Thanks: 5 Thanked 57 Times in 25 Posts Contact Info	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? JV Manager / Fantasos is much more than membership management system. Memberships are only one of many features in Fantasos. If you are looking for the script that is specialised for membership sites, then aMember Pro is the answer. It has no bugs at all, many integration modules, it's stable, reliable software. Also very simple to use and extremely cheap for what you get.
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05-16-2009, 01:20 PM	#47
dlwalsh HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas, Nv, USA. Posts: 275 Thanks: 10 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? LOL No problem Byron. I should not have lost my temper as I have dealt with that person in the past and know what he is like. But honestly, if you are looking for a membership script, do yourself a favor and get Delavo. Not only will you be able to create unlimited memberships, but you can also create unlimited Products/Packages for all your products. And to show you how simple Delavo is, I can set up my Product, attach it to a Package, PLUS edit the templates so that the order pages and thank you page look just like my sales site and I can do that in 30 minutes. Yes I have done it multiple times so I am very fast at it but even fumbling along, it won't take you more than an hour maybe an 1 1/2 at the most. Plus, you can set up and maintain unlimited affiliate programs. And Delavo supports UNLIMITED tiered commissions. So if you wanted to pay someone commissions at even the 100th tier, you can. Now what other script offers that? Plus, I will teach all new Delavo owners (well, minus one ) through FREE 4 hour workshops to be held 2x per week (Wed and Sat) for at least 3 months. So since the platform is free, you will get manuals, videos, contextual help files, a forum, and workshops also for free. getting Delavo should be a no brainer! So get Delavo and try it out. You really have nothing to lose. Donna
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05-16-2009, 01:26 PM	#48
Steve Crooks Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hampshire, United Kingdom. Posts: 1,030 Thanks: 34 Thanked 215 Times in 86 Posts Social Networking	Re: JV Manager Is That The Best Membership Script? I am also deciding between memberspeed, delavo and amember pro.. It is a shame to see the dirty linen being washed in public here on this thread like that. However, I look forward to trying all three and will make a decision based on each platform's merits.
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