Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching?

mstplumber · 05-18-2009, 10:06 AM

Hi,

I'm brand new to the forum. My total profit to date in just over a year is about $58 bucks, which is still in Clickbank's hands. I just got a call from "Mike Filsaime's office" pitching private coaching. The cost is $5000 for a year. I am honestly considering it because supposedly I will be able to call as often as I need for phone support in any area. The catch is that the only guarantee is that they will continue to work with you if you haven't made your investment back after the i year coaching period is up.

I am just trying to see if anyone has any experience with this program and, if so, did it help you make money?

I've already spend several thousand on different programs and they all seem to be missing some crucial details. Any help would be appreciated.

Stuck in Guru Land

Amanda_Davis · 05-18-2009, 10:49 AM

I agree - there's no way that $5000 will get you phone access to anyone experienced enough.

I've tried getting them on the phone before... they're happy to give you their numbers... they just don't answer or return your calls!

(I don't have experience with Russell though)

Mike Murphy · 05-21-2009, 11:55 PM

I'm not in either program but used to join the weekly calls for Brunsons Dot Com Secrets and his affiliate manager Brent Coppieters seems like a great dude. He was very helpful and Russell actually answered lots of my questions right on the teleseminar.

Cost to me? $0

DonDavis · 05-21-2009, 11:59 PM

If you have only made $58 in a year I really don't think all the coaching in the world is going to help you. If you want to make it you have to be an action taker. If you took action on nothing but the basics of internet marketing you would have far exceeded your $58 of income. Please don't spend your money until you are ready to take action. Coaching is not the magic button either.

SimonHarrison · 05-22-2009, 07:04 AM

There is NO way on earth that Mike F or Russel B, is going to be at your beck and call for what amounts to $90 a week..

Even if you do manage to get through you can get bet your ass you ain't getting to speak to either of them.

Both rake in tens of thousands of dollars a day, the maths doesn't stack up, hell I wouldn't offer an all you can eat information buffet for $90 a week , much less Mike or Russell B.

John Rogers · 05-22-2009, 10:07 AM

What is it you're trying to make money at? Affiliate marketing?

John

TheAngelGuy · 05-22-2009, 01:02 PM

For that price you only get one of their assigned coaches. Someone asked for Mike's personal rate and it was $50,000.

I'm with Amanda, though - no more from me, from either of these guys.

You could actually do a lot better with just buying basic IM products on the various subjects you would encounter in any internet-related business. Marketing, copwriting, SEO, etc.

It's doubtful that any coaching would give you as comprehensive an education as your own research with some of the subject matter experts selling e-books out there.

Gaurav Duggal · 05-22-2009, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mstplumber

Hi,

I'm brand new to the forum. My total profit to date in just over a year is about $58 bucks, which is still in Clickbank's hands. I just got a call from "Mike Filsaime's office" pitching private coaching. The cost is $5000 for a year. I am honestly considering it because supposedly I will be able to call as often as I need for phone support in any area. The catch is that the only guarantee is that they will continue to work with you if you haven't made your investment back after the i year coaching period is up.

I am just trying to see if anyone has any experience with this program and, if so, did it help you make money?

I've already spend several thousand on different programs and they all seem to be missing some crucial details. Any help would be appreciated.

Stuck in Guru Land

I can't comment on Mike's program but i am enrolled in Russell Brunson's Protege program ($5000 for a year). Its quite comprehensive and the coach i have definately knows his stuff and is a successful marketer in his own right. Besides that you get access to an insane amount of marketing material and the reactive coaching, which means you can call and harrass your coach at all times.. lol. Anyhow, the program is what you make of it. If you put the effort in to learn and to keep in touch with your course, you will succees... simple as that. That and they guarantee that at the very least you will make your money back or they will keep coaching you till they do.

dee101 · 10-14-2009, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lokimotion

I can't comment on Mike's program but i am enrolled in Russell Brunson's Protege program ($5000 for a year). Its quite comprehensive and the coach i have definately knows his stuff and is a successful marketer in his own right...

Hi,

I got a call tonight from Russell Brunson's office and I was wondering - are you still happy with the program? are you making enough money to justify the time, effort, and investment?

Thanks!

aboutalhah · 10-14-2009, 03:52 AM

Great.

Just a question. When did you start? And what did you achieve to date?

Thanks,

Franck

Quote:

Originally Posted by lokimotion

I can't comment on Mike's program but i am enrolled in Russell Brunson's Protege program ($5000 for a year). Its quite comprehensive and the coach i have definately knows his stuff and is a successful marketer in his own right. Besides that you get access to an insane amount of marketing material and the reactive coaching, which means you can call and harrass your coach at all times.. lol. Anyhow, the program is what you make of it. If you put the effort in to learn and to keep in touch with your course, you will succees... simple as that. That and they guarantee that at the very least you will make your money back or they will keep coaching you till they do.

Jack Doug · 10-14-2009, 07:30 AM

I personally have no problems with Mike Filsaime although I know that all his helpdesk support are outsourced personnel which might not be working closely with him. Either way, just request for his private personal email address so that you can contact him personally. That will just do the trick.

Lance K · 10-14-2009, 08:26 AM

Unless you're already making enough money to pay for the coaching, I can think of about 100 better ways to invest that $5,000. If you're just looking for some help to get to (potentially) the next level and can afford to lose the money, go for it.

Otherwise, join John Taylor's coaching program that he runs a WSO for. I think he charges $497. I'm pretty sure he'll tell you right quick what your problem is. Even if it's found in the mirror. And you'll still have $4,503 left to build your business with.

There are other Warriors who have similar programs. I'm just using John as an example.

dee101 · 10-15-2009, 02:55 PM

Hi Lance,

Thank you so much for the link to John Taylor's page. His coaching program sounds like the type of coaching I've been looking for, and the testimonials are astonishing!

I will search for other warriors programs as well, just so I have a more complete frame of reference when I make my decision.

Dee.

Janet Walker · 10-16-2009, 10:28 PM

It is called dotcomsecrets protege program. The coaches are guys who have no affiliate marketing experience or atleast the one I had did not. It costs 5,000.00 for 10 coaching calls. 1 call per week for the 1st 10 weeks. I just finished their program and this is what i got (buildasolar-panel.weebly.com) You could sell this site for a one dollar bill. I had lots of trouble. If you need specifics let me know and I would be glad to tell you.

Mtkent · 10-17-2009, 08:34 AM

I highly reccomend Russells coaching. Not only have I used many of the components that he and his staff have shown me. I actually got to have lunch with Russ and Brent since I am in the area and can tell you that they really do care about how successful you become. Russ isn't going to personally coach you very often but I have met the folks that do the coaching and they are wonderful. Their expertise will get you where you need to be to start making what ever amount of money you would like to be making. I highly, highly recomend his course and coaching.

SEAHAT · 10-17-2009, 01:28 PM

Wow! I'm so glad I joined the Warrior Forum and my first search was on Coaching because I was just about to pull the trigger on a $5K to $10K program through the company that does the coaching for Mike Filsaime, Russel Brunson, Steven Pierce and others.

I have really liked the "screener" guy I have been talking to (Eric S.). He's been wonderful and wonderfully encouraging. But since I started speaking with him last week I have done a lot more of my own learning and thinking and am seriously wondering if this is the right move. I have a real estate business and I had a coach for that and it was very successful - of course... it is possible that success depends not only on what you put into the program but also what your expectations are of the program itself.

Hmmm... I'm still on the fence here but I guess that I do need to consider what the best use of my money would be since it will basically be all the money I have! LOL!

OOH... anyone out here also a paid member over at Wealthy Affiliate2.0???? It seems like for $39/mo there is all the training and coaching one could need in one place.

Janet Walker · 10-18-2009, 05:16 AM

Hey mtkent - glad to hear you love the program. I guess there is good and bad with anything out there. I was just curious but could give me the url to your product. I would really love see what a good finished product from dotcomsecrets looks like. Can i sign up on your squeeze so that I could be taken through your sales funnel. They never had a chance to coach me on the high end part of the sale funnel.

graham41 · 10-18-2009, 04:02 PM

coaching is a bad idea for beginners unless to have money to burn

Ludovic · 10-18-2009, 07:32 PM

oh man. just don't do it. you need to take a lot of action, which your not. Stop reading and start doing. By doing that, you will learn from your mistake and grow to be a better IM marketer everytime.

dee101 · 10-19-2009, 06:38 PM

Mtkent - I would also be interested in checking out the product that was created based on this coaching. Are you making the kind of money that you thought you'd be making after taking this coaching?

Also - I have a question for Janet - since they basically guarantee that you will make at least as much as the amount you have invested, don't they still have to work with you until you do?

Thanks for the comments everyone. It's been really helpful.

Dee.

Terro · 10-21-2009, 05:35 AM

I got a call from a guy thats on Mikes coaching team on friday. I didn´t even remember signin up for any coaching but I guess I must have somwhere because he had my phone number.

The guy who called me was very nice and he basicly told me that I was one of the lucky few considered for the program.

On monday he called back and we talked for about an hour. He asked me about my financial stadus and also talked to my girlfriend a litle. Then he started the selling part. He sayd I had to invest about $5000 for 12 months of coaching. I told him I just din´t have that kind of money right now so he started asking me if I could take out a loan from the bank or from my family and things like that. I thought that was kinda weird because I had already told him that I could come up with the money 1 of nov.

Now someone else from the company is going to call me today and see if I fit the program and then I haveto pay today if I´m in.

I let you know how it goes. I´m still unsure if I´m going to take this coaching.

TelegramSam · 10-21-2009, 05:52 AM

One has to decide for himself about whether to do these $5,000 dollar coaching packages.

I would insist on seeing some real tangible results and get a cast iron guarantee in writing about payback if it doesn't pan out well.

Also bear in mind that the heavy sales tactics are carried out by people on sales commission. How much I'm not so sure, but it will be worth their while if they sell you on it

fong47 · 10-21-2009, 10:39 AM

It's seems like I am not the only one getting this calls. I also received a call claiming to be Mike Filsaime office and wanted to coach me for $5000. He ask me if I am making money over the internet and I said yes. Now, my question is if Mike Filsaime and Russell Brunson making millions on the internet, why on earth are they charging $5k from someone who is not making money? Hello, I am not making money, Do you think I have $5K? I was in sales myself for many years and I told him that I would make him a deal. I said to him, how about this: Why don't you coach me right now for no charge and when I make my first $5K, I will give it to you. Better yet, I 'll give you $6K. How about that? And then he goes on telling that this is not how it works and could not make me this deal. Any comment on this?

fong47

Terro · 10-22-2009, 06:51 AM

Well I got the call yesterday and spoke again with the salesperson from Mikes team.

I was able to bargain with him a little and we decided on me paying $1000 and they would lend me $5000. Wich I would pay when I get my earnings from the program. So that was good.

I´m supose to pay on 2. nov. and start the coaching then. I´m still deciding what to do.

wallacem · 10-23-2009, 10:29 PM

i have had 2 phone calls from "Mike's office" one from a "screener" and one from a salesperson extremly pushy and wanting $8500 US$ for the course

mrmut · 10-24-2009, 09:33 PM

Just My two Cents...

I have learned everything i know from the forum and buying WSO. You can find everything here and if you dont find the answer ASK!!!!! take action and learn from your mistake. $5000 can be for WSO, TOOLS, DOMAIN, OUTSOURCE, and SITE DEVELOPEMENT.

Good Luck

trader_stuart · 10-30-2009, 11:48 PM

I too have received calls from Russell Brunson's office and Brad Callen's too recently, interesting that I am in Australia and they appear to be more aggressively going after overseas customers.

I can't comment on Russell's coaching but I can comment on I5Gold with Mike Filsaime given that was a previous incarnation of his coaching services, his first foray into mass coaching as far as I know.

As far I am concerned it was an almost complete waste of money and was totally wrong for me although I'm sure many people loved it.

Firstly there was supposed to be a large component of "1 on 1" coaching, one of the heavily promoted benefits of the program. The 1 on 1 turned out to be about 20 minutes once a month with 1 of 4 gurus of which Mike was one. To get this 20 minutes you had to wait your turn on 1 of 4 conference calls at different times and there was no way to guarantee that you always got the same person. From a continuity and getting to be known perspective this was a terrible way to do things. Being on a conference call was good from the point of learning from others coaching but it also meant no privacy.

There was also weekly teleseminars with industry experts. These were nearly all good quality calls but the problem was that just about every week it was a different subject being talked about. This meant if you were a newbie like I was that you got to learn a little bit about everything but not a lot about anything in particular. It was also very distracting and for me and certainly did not help me to focus in on one discipline. These recorded calls are now often offered by Mike as one of his bonuses to other programs or products.

You were also supposed to have access to the 4 gurus through a forum. Personally I found other members very helpful but the gurus were rather harder to get much out of. For example one of these 4 gurus, Paulie promised me on 3 separate occasions that he would provide me with details of people I could interview. This was a request that would not have taken much effort to fulfill but I never did get this list from him.

Lastly I5Gold had a guarantee that Mike would promote your product or he would deposit $5000 into your PayPal account. Strangely if anybody raised a topic in the forum about the guarantee and how to ensure Mike fulfilled his promise then other members would rally against you saying that you should promote your product yourself and not rely on Mike. Whilst I agree you should be doing some self promoting I strongly believe that people should be held to deliver what they said they would, if you have paid for a helping hand then what is wrong with asking for it?

With hindsight I think this guarantee was there to look reassuring with no real expectation of having to honor it.

Victoria Gates · 12-18-2009, 04:15 PM

Im rather tired of the calls I continuously get from Russel Brunson, Anik, and whatever other names are in on this coaching set-up. I do not see why I should do that when I could sink that cash into having someone build me a network of websites with some darn decent advertising to back it up, with my 5k..

I think it's nonsence.

05-18-2009, 10:06 AM	#1
mstplumber Warrior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? Hi, I'm brand new to the forum. My total profit to date in just over a year is about $58 bucks, which is still in Clickbank's hands. I just got a call from "Mike Filsaime's office" pitching private coaching. The cost is $5000 for a year. I am honestly considering it because supposedly I will be able to call as often as I need for phone support in any area. The catch is that the only guarantee is that they will continue to work with you if you haven't made your investment back after the i year coaching period is up. I am just trying to see if anyone has any experience with this program and, if so, did it help you make money? I've already spend several thousand on different programs and they all seem to be missing some crucial details. Any help would be appreciated. Stuck in Guru Land

05-18-2009, 10:49 AM	#2
Amanda_Davis HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 349 Thanks: 0 Thanked 33 Times in 26 Posts Social Networking	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? I agree - there's no way that $5000 will get you phone access to anyone experienced enough. I've tried getting them on the phone before... they're happy to give you their numbers... they just don't answer or return your calls! (I don't have experience with Russell though)
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05-21-2009, 11:55 PM	#3
Mike Murphy Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ontario, Canada. Posts: 615 Thanks: 68 Thanked 60 Times in 44 Posts Social Networking	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? I'm not in either program but used to join the weekly calls for Brunsons Dot Com Secrets and his affiliate manager Brent Coppieters seems like a great dude. He was very helpful and Russell actually answered lots of my questions right on the teleseminar. Cost to me? $0
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05-21-2009, 11:59 PM	#4
DonDavis Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Illinois USA. Posts: 704 Thanks: 40 Thanked 77 Times in 40 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? If you have only made $58 in a year I really don't think all the coaching in the world is going to help you. If you want to make it you have to be an action taker. If you took action on nothing but the basics of internet marketing you would have far exceeded your $58 of income. Please don't spend your money until you are ready to take action. Coaching is not the magic button either.

05-22-2009, 07:04 AM	#5
SimonHarrison Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Location, Location. Posts: 2,066 Thanks: 246 Thanked 446 Times in 266 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? There is NO way on earth that Mike F or Russel B, is going to be at your beck and call for what amounts to $90 a week.. Even if you do manage to get through you can get bet your ass you ain't getting to speak to either of them. Both rake in tens of thousands of dollars a day, the maths doesn't stack up, hell I wouldn't offer an all you can eat information buffet for $90 a week , much less Mike or Russell B.

05-22-2009, 10:07 AM	#6
John Rogers The Instigator War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Shelton, WA, USA. Posts: 5,346 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 278 Thanked 524 Times in 241 Posts Social Networking	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? What is it you're trying to make money at? Affiliate marketing? John
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05-22-2009, 01:02 PM	#7
TheAngelGuy HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 214 Thanks: 159 Thanked 22 Times in 15 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? For that price you only get one of their assigned coaches. Someone asked for Mike's personal rate and it was $50,000. I'm with Amanda, though - no more from me, from either of these guys. You could actually do a lot better with just buying basic IM products on the various subjects you would encounter in any internet-related business. Marketing, copwriting, SEO, etc. It's doubtful that any coaching would give you as comprehensive an education as your own research with some of the subject matter experts selling e-books out there.

10-14-2009, 07:30 AM	#11
Jack Doug HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 143 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? I personally have no problems with Mike Filsaime although I know that all his helpdesk support are outsourced personnel which might not be working closely with him. Either way, just request for his private personal email address so that you can contact him personally. That will just do the trick.
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Lance K Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 3,866 Thanks: 1,435 Thanked 646 Times in 405 Posts Contact Info	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? Unless you're already making enough money to pay for the coaching, I can think of about 100 better ways to invest that $5,000. If you're just looking for some help to get to (potentially) the next level and can afford to lose the money, go for it. Otherwise, join John Taylor's coaching program that he runs a WSO for. I think he charges $497. I'm pretty sure he'll tell you right quick what your problem is. Even if it's found in the mirror. And you'll still have $4,503 left to build your business with. There are other Warriors who have similar programs. I'm just using John as an example.
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10-15-2009, 02:55 PM	#13
dee101 Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: California Posts: 27 Thanks: 11 Thanked 12 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? Hi Lance, Thank you so much for the link to John Taylor's page. His coaching program sounds like the type of coaching I've been looking for, and the testimonials are astonishing! I will search for other warriors programs as well, just so I have a more complete frame of reference when I make my decision. Dee.

10-16-2009, 10:28 PM	#14
Janet Walker HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 158 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? It is called dotcomsecrets protege program. The coaches are guys who have no affiliate marketing experience or atleast the one I had did not. It costs 5,000.00 for 10 coaching calls. 1 call per week for the 1st 10 weeks. I just finished their program and this is what i got (buildasolar-panel.weebly.com) You could sell this site for a one dollar bill. I had lots of trouble. If you need specifics let me know and I would be glad to tell you.

10-17-2009, 08:34 AM	#15
Mtkent Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? I highly reccomend Russells coaching. Not only have I used many of the components that he and his staff have shown me. I actually got to have lunch with Russ and Brent since I am in the area and can tell you that they really do care about how successful you become. Russ isn't going to personally coach you very often but I have met the folks that do the coaching and they are wonderful. Their expertise will get you where you need to be to start making what ever amount of money you would like to be making. I highly, highly recomend his course and coaching.

10-17-2009, 01:28 PM	#16
SEAHAT Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? Wow! I'm so glad I joined the Warrior Forum and my first search was on Coaching because I was just about to pull the trigger on a $5K to $10K program through the company that does the coaching for Mike Filsaime, Russel Brunson, Steven Pierce and others. I have really liked the "screener" guy I have been talking to (Eric S.). He's been wonderful and wonderfully encouraging. But since I started speaking with him last week I have done a lot more of my own learning and thinking and am seriously wondering if this is the right move. I have a real estate business and I had a coach for that and it was very successful - of course... it is possible that success depends not only on what you put into the program but also what your expectations are of the program itself. Hmmm... I'm still on the fence here but I guess that I do need to consider what the best use of my money would be since it will basically be all the money I have! LOL! OOH... anyone out here also a paid member over at Wealthy Affiliate2.0???? It seems like for $39/mo there is all the training and coaching one could need in one place.
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10-18-2009, 05:16 AM	#17
Janet Walker HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 158 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? Hey mtkent - glad to hear you love the program. I guess there is good and bad with anything out there. I was just curious but could give me the url to your product. I would really love see what a good finished product from dotcomsecrets looks like. Can i sign up on your squeeze so that I could be taken through your sales funnel. They never had a chance to coach me on the high end part of the sale funnel.

10-18-2009, 04:02 PM	#18
graham41 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London Posts: 148 Thanks: 50 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? coaching is a bad idea for beginners unless to have money to burn

10-18-2009, 07:32 PM	#19
Ludovic HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 176 Thanks: 4 Thanked 23 Times in 9 Posts Social Networking	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? oh man. just don't do it. you need to take a lot of action, which your not. Stop reading and start doing. By doing that, you will learn from your mistake and grow to be a better IM marketer everytime.
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10-19-2009, 06:38 PM	#20
dee101 Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: California Posts: 27 Thanks: 11 Thanked 12 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? Mtkent - I would also be interested in checking out the product that was created based on this coaching. Are you making the kind of money that you thought you'd be making after taking this coaching? Also - I have a question for Janet - since they basically guarantee that you will make at least as much as the amount you have invested, don't they still have to work with you until you do? Thanks for the comments everyone. It's been really helpful. Dee.

10-21-2009, 05:35 AM	#21
Terro Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Iceland Posts: 160 Thanks: 16 Thanked 41 Times in 29 Posts Social Networking	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? I got a call from a guy thats on Mikes coaching team on friday. I didn´t even remember signin up for any coaching but I guess I must have somwhere because he had my phone number. The guy who called me was very nice and he basicly told me that I was one of the lucky few considered for the program. On monday he called back and we talked for about an hour. He asked me about my financial stadus and also talked to my girlfriend a litle. Then he started the selling part. He sayd I had to invest about $5000 for 12 months of coaching. I told him I just din´t have that kind of money right now so he started asking me if I could take out a loan from the bank or from my family and things like that. I thought that was kinda weird because I had already told him that I could come up with the money 1 of nov. Now someone else from the company is going to call me today and see if I fit the program and then I haveto pay today if I´m in. I let you know how it goes. I´m still unsure if I´m going to take this coaching.

10-21-2009, 05:52 AM	#22
TelegramSam Battle Hardened Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA/UK Posts: 690 Thanks: 44 Thanked 166 Times in 89 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? One has to decide for himself about whether to do these $5,000 dollar coaching packages. I would insist on seeing some real tangible results and get a cast iron guarantee in writing about payback if it doesn't pan out well. Also bear in mind that the heavy sales tactics are carried out by people on sales commission. How much I'm not so sure, but it will be worth their while if they sell you on it

10-21-2009, 10:39 AM	#23
fong47 Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 77 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? It's seems like I am not the only one getting this calls. I also received a call claiming to be Mike Filsaime office and wanted to coach me for $5000. He ask me if I am making money over the internet and I said yes. Now, my question is if Mike Filsaime and Russell Brunson making millions on the internet, why on earth are they charging $5k from someone who is not making money? Hello, I am not making money, Do you think I have $5K? I was in sales myself for many years and I told him that I would make him a deal. I said to him, how about this: Why don't you coach me right now for no charge and when I make my first $5K, I will give it to you. Better yet, I 'll give you $6K. How about that? And then he goes on telling that this is not how it works and could not make me this deal. Any comment on this? fong47
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10-22-2009, 06:51 AM	#24
Terro Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Iceland Posts: 160 Thanks: 16 Thanked 41 Times in 29 Posts Social Networking	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? Well I got the call yesterday and spoke again with the salesperson from Mikes team. I was able to bargain with him a little and we decided on me paying $1000 and they would lend me $5000. Wich I would pay when I get my earnings from the program. So that was good. I´m supose to pay on 2. nov. and start the coaching then. I´m still deciding what to do.

10-23-2009, 10:29 PM	#25
wallacem Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Contact Info	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? i have had 2 phone calls from "Mike's office" one from a "screener" and one from a salesperson extremly pushy and wanting $8500 US$ for the course
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10-24-2009, 09:33 PM	#26
mrmut HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 110 Thanks: 3 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? Just My two Cents... I have learned everything i know from the forum and buying WSO. You can find everything here and if you dont find the answer ASK!!!!! take action and learn from your mistake. $5000 can be for WSO, TOOLS, DOMAIN, OUTSOURCE, and SITE DEVELOPEMENT. Good Luck

10-30-2009, 11:48 PM	#27
trader_stuart HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: , , Australia. Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? I too have received calls from Russell Brunson's office and Brad Callen's too recently, interesting that I am in Australia and they appear to be more aggressively going after overseas customers. I can't comment on Russell's coaching but I can comment on I5Gold with Mike Filsaime given that was a previous incarnation of his coaching services, his first foray into mass coaching as far as I know. As far I am concerned it was an almost complete waste of money and was totally wrong for me although I'm sure many people loved it. Firstly there was supposed to be a large component of "1 on 1" coaching, one of the heavily promoted benefits of the program. The 1 on 1 turned out to be about 20 minutes once a month with 1 of 4 gurus of which Mike was one. To get this 20 minutes you had to wait your turn on 1 of 4 conference calls at different times and there was no way to guarantee that you always got the same person. From a continuity and getting to be known perspective this was a terrible way to do things. Being on a conference call was good from the point of learning from others coaching but it also meant no privacy. There was also weekly teleseminars with industry experts. These were nearly all good quality calls but the problem was that just about every week it was a different subject being talked about. This meant if you were a newbie like I was that you got to learn a little bit about everything but not a lot about anything in particular. It was also very distracting and for me and certainly did not help me to focus in on one discipline. These recorded calls are now often offered by Mike as one of his bonuses to other programs or products. You were also supposed to have access to the 4 gurus through a forum. Personally I found other members very helpful but the gurus were rather harder to get much out of. For example one of these 4 gurus, Paulie promised me on 3 separate occasions that he would provide me with details of people I could interview. This was a request that would not have taken much effort to fulfill but I never did get this list from him. Lastly I5Gold had a guarantee that Mike would promote your product or he would deposit $5000 into your PayPal account. Strangely if anybody raised a topic in the forum about the guarantee and how to ensure Mike fulfilled his promise then other members would rally against you saying that you should promote your product yourself and not rely on Mike. Whilst I agree you should be doing some self promoting I strongly believe that people should be held to deliver what they said they would, if you have paid for a helping hand then what is wrong with asking for it? With hindsight I think this guarantee was there to look reassuring with no real expectation of having to honor it.

12-18-2009, 04:15 PM	#28
Victoria Gates Too Busy With Biz To Post War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: East TN Posts: 408 Thanks: 159 Thanked 86 Times in 55 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Any experience with Brunson and Filsaime's high end private coaching? Im rather tired of the calls I continuously get from Russel Brunson, Anik, and whatever other names are in on this coaching set-up. I do not see why I should do that when I could sink that cash into having someone build me a network of websites with some darn decent advertising to back it up, with my 5k.. I think it's nonsence.
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