Andrew Reynolds course

15 years ago

I can not speak for Andrew Reynolds or any other person in business, but if I had paid for a web site for a year or two years and it was still generating traffic and income, I would be happy to leave the site there giving me money each month.

Why abandon something you will have (or should have) put quite a bit of work into ?

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GoldTrack

15 years ago

Hi,
I have subscribed in the past but only really scimmed the content - my understanding is that Andrew has only ever really been involved in one niche - the business opportunity, making money, direct mail, self improvement call it what you like it all amounts to the same target market in general terms. He did, does and will continue to make money from this niche via Direct Mail and also his tv channel on Sky (ec.tv)

He is indirectly involved in other niches i believe in so far as he will sell you licences (suitable for front and backend offerings) to other niche specific products, tell you where to buy direct mail lists etc etc etc and show you how to profit from them using the techniques you learn in the Cash On Demand Course BUT I believe none of the products (licences) you buy for resale will come with any kind of Sales Letter for you to use (I may be wrong but that is what I have been told). You will have to go out, get the sales letter written, get testimonials to show 'proof of concept', build a list of customers with your front end product that you can then sell your backend offerrings to.

Hope this helps
Will

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JMSD

13 years ago

Originally Posted by pip87

Hi everyone, I am hoping someone can answer a question for me.
I was on the andrew reynolds cod course and there is something i am a bit confused with.

I wondered if he goes into a niche promotes his front ends then his backends but then drops the whole niche altogther after a couple of months or does he stay in a niche until he does not profit from it any more?

Anyone with their thoughts if you are also on the course would be good.

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You're right. He does move on to another product after he has squeezed as much out of one product (front end and related backend product), usually within two-three months.

He concentrates on direct mail rather than putting up a website to which the general public can visit to buy his products. Unless you have received a letter from him by post, you won't know what product(s) he has to offer so finding his sales sites which are password protected, anyway, would be impossible.

All his sales come from private invitations and those he operates with very select few JVs. Once done with one set of products, he passes on these product licences to his top priced coaching students who use them as advised. These students still managed to squeeze at least six figure sums from the sales.

He used to (may still do) buy exclusive licences from abroad so no one else had the products that he was selling in a given country. He has long since moved into product development, himself, so he now issues licences to his products (various niches) to members who subscribe to the many levels of memberships he offers. These products are very, very good and as a former member, I just struggle to find time to set up websites for the licensed physical products already received.

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Newalan

10 years ago

Originally Posted by JMSD

You're right. He does move on to another product after he has squeezed as much out of one product (front end and related backend product), usually within two-three months.

He concentrates on direct mail rather than putting up a website to which the general public can visit to buy his products. Unless you have received a letter from him by post, you won't know what product(s) he has to offer so finding his sales sites which are password protected, anyway, would be impossible.

All his sales come from private invitations and those he operates with very select few JVs. Once done with one set of products, he passes on these product licences to his top priced coaching students who use them as advised. These students still managed to squeeze at least six figure sums from the sales.

He used to (may still do) buy exclusive licences from abroad so no one else had the products that he was selling in a given country. He has long since moved into product development, himself, so he now issues licences to his products (various niches) to members who subscribe to the many levels of memberships he offers. These products are very, very good and as a former member, I just struggle to find time to set up websites for the licensed physical products already received.

I have been involved with him many years ago in a so called joint venture and did not make a penny (lost money mostly).

I can't say how good his system is now? I do wonder though why anyone who claims to have made £ 50 Million (British Pounds) would still need to sell his book on Amazon for £7.00 (British Pounds).

I did learn one thing though, don't dig for Gold but sell shovels and picks to those who want to dig at the end of that Rainbow.

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apollocreed

13 years ago

I would not waste my time if I were you.

Remember that 1000 or so people will have the same exact licenses as you do and will be using the exact same system as you have been taught and will be using the exact same lists.

I assure that at the end of the day, the only person who will make a killing is Andrew Reynolds. Not you. The only way you can avoid it is if you have several thousand pounds (£10,000 or more) to spend on a killer copywriter (like the one he uses) and to to buy some great leads. Otherwise...save your money.

The dude made a killing on some forex training course by vince somebody that was totally c@#p. He repeatedly sold the final 30 seat seminar to about 200 people every fortnight for $10,000. The guy is a brilliant marketer but he is not going to help you make a dime.

On a side note, the guy made a big deal about quitting the direct marketing world a few years back. Surprised he is still at it. I guess it was all just another marketing gimmick.

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Zero

13 years ago

Originally Posted by apollocreed

I would not waste my time if I were you.

Remember that 1000 or so people will have the same exact licenses as you do and will be using the exact same system as you have been taught and will be using the exact same lists.

I assure that at the end of the day, the only person who will make a killing is Andrew Reynolds. Not you. The only way you can avoid it is if you have several thousand pounds (£10,000 or more) to spend on a killer copywriter (like the one he uses) and to to buy some great leads. Otherwise...save your money.

The dude made a killing on some forex training course by vince somebody that was totally c@#p. He repeatedly sold the final 30 seat seminar to about 200 people every fortnight for $10,000. The guy is a brilliant marketer but he is not going to help you make a dime.

On a side note, the guy made a big deal about quitting the direct marketing world a few years back. Surprised he is still at it. I guess it was all just another marketing gimmick.

I think you're missing the whole point of his cash on demand system. You get a product license. He also provides you materials to be able to at least write your own sales copy for the front end/backend the way he did when he first started.

If you do actually put some effort into it, you'll get those sales copies up - and get a few mailings, make some money from the front end/back end offer, after which you'll re-invest that money and do a bigger mailing and even pay a copywriter to clean up ur copy or do a better one.

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apollocreed

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Zero

I think you're missing the whole point of his cash on demand system. You get a product license. He also provides you materials to be able to at least write your own sales copy for the front end/backend the way he did when he first started.

If you do actually put some effort into it, you'll get those sales copies up - and get a few mailings, make some money from the front end/back end offer, after which you'll re-invest that money and do a bigger mailing and even pay a copywriter to clean up ur copy or do a better one.

First mistake you are making is believing that you know how he started. He is a marketer remember. Do not believe any story he tells you. Be with him long enough, you will hear different stories of how he started, based on what he is peddling.

If you think you can write copy to sell a £300 + product by cutting and pasting, I think YOU are probably missing my point.

Please re-read my post and try to understand what i am telling you. Working hard has nothing to do with it. I know in the seminars he will tell that only 1-2% of people will actually make money from his system because they work hard and implemented his system and that the other 99% are lazy and will do nothing with the info.

Don't drink the Kool-Aid. I have warned you so do not complain when you learn the hard way and are several thousand pounds poorer.

I know that you may want to believe in a dream of financial freedom from some unique off the shelf "system" that you have bought into. My experience and those of many others is that his system was not it based on the reasons I gave you.

Search for the name of the person and scam to see some other opinions.

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JMSD

13 years ago

Originally Posted by apollocreed

First mistake you are making is believing that you know how he started. He is a marketer remember. Do not believe any story he tells you. Be with him long enough, you will hear different stories of how he started, based on what he is peddling.

If you think you can write copy to sell a £300 + product by cutting and pasting, I think YOU are probably missing my point.

Please re-read my post and try to understand what i am telling you. Working hard has nothing to do with it. I know in the seminars he will tell that only 1-2% of people will actually make money from his system because they work hard and implemented his system and that the other 99% are lazy and will do nothing with the info.

Don't drink the Kool-Aid. I have warned you so do not complain when you learn the hard way and are several thousand pounds poorer.

I know that you may want to believe in a dream of financial freedom from some unique off the shelf "system" that you have bought into. My experience and those of many others is that his system was not it based on the reasons I gave you.

Search for the name of the person and scam to see some other opinions.

Have you actually bought any of Andrew's products and, if so, have you implemented any of the ideas given? Or are you merely repeating unfounded "scam" reports by those who buy products, do nothing with them and then moan?

I don't think you are aware of just how many millionaires Andrew has personally helped (albeit at a fee) to create. Let me enlighten you with the names of just two.

Nick James (go and see his site at Nick-James.com). Nick was a car park attendant before he came across Andrew and enrolled on his more expensive course and he's gone on to make several million pounds sterling within a very few years.

Time Lowe is another who uses both online and offline marketing techniques taught by Andrew to make even more millions than Nick in even less time.

I, and others, rely on the WF for honest, factual reviews of products that a Warrior has actually bought and tested for themselves (ie implemented rather than allowing it to gather dust). It's getting rather tedious to read comments that serve no purpose but to tarnish the reputation of marketers who are not here to defend their good name.

James

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apollocreed

13 years ago

Originally Posted by JMSD

Have you actually bought any of Andrew's products and, if so, have you implemented any of the ideas given? Or are you merely repeating unfounded "scam" reports by those who buy products, do nothing with them and then moan?

I don't think you are aware of just how many millionaires Andrew has personally helped (albeit at a fee) to create. Let me enlighten you with the names of just two.

Nick James (go and see his site at Nick-James.com). Nick was a car park attendant before he came across Andrew and enrolled on his more expensive course and he's gone on to make several million pounds sterling within a very few years.

Time Lowe is another who uses both online and offline marketing techniques taught by Andrew to make even more millions than Nick in even less time.

I, and others, rely on the WF for honest, factual reviews of products that a Warrior has actually bought and tested for themselves (ie implemented rather than allowing it to gather dust). It's getting rather tedious to read comments that serve no purpose but to tarnish the reputation of marketers who are not here to defend their good name.

James

I give up man.

I would not be advising you if I had no direct knowledge of what i am talking about. I have seen those same 2 or 3 names of Tim Lowe and Nick James as success stories for nearly a decade now. What you may not know is that they are all in the same team.

Goodluck! I truly hope you become the 3rd success story out of the thousands of people who have attended his seminars and bought his dvds/videos. I also hope you are not the 99.9% of people who are just too lazy to succeed with his system.

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Martoon196

10 years ago

It's hard for me to make a decision on this when people put their opinion down very strongly then admit they never tasted the product.

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simonthewebguy 10 years ago

hi guys
for what its worth looked into this an found some concerns

His book Copy This Idea which I recently purchased and enjoyed and made a testimonial for see on youtube is a good and inspirational read, although it is directed towards the cash on demand course

this is where the problems arise in my humble opinion - there is no syllabus or breakdown of course or indeed how many modules to complete
from looking in deeper apparently there 36 3 years worth of subscription at going rate think it was £29.95 a month

there is no option to buy whole course upfront so your pretty much in there for the long haul should you decided to stick it out - most don't and quit without getting the full picture, also people sell his course cheap on Ebay, those modules all were picked up for £100 form one guy.

Although I understand subscription and membership models I think know there are better courses out there with clear content and also a definitive end time

one I would recommend as highly valuable is Jonathan Minzel's Traffic Evolution course 6 months and brilliant content and structure.

I know Andrew knows how to market and has a wealth of experience in the business world but this course is a no for me because of above - its just not structured towards the student but more towards the master and I think as far as investment goes its a poor option hope this helps
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The Chosen

10 years ago

And remember, he started doing this when the World Wide Web was in its infancy. The internet is flooded with marketing/junk/spam products now. Most people largely ignore them these days but back then there were far less people doing it and audience ignorance will have given him a much higher chance of a sale. Since then the market has been saturated and people have wisened up to not pay any attention to spam. If Andrew Reynolds started doing this today, would he become a millionaire? Probably not. Like anyone buying his courses today, you're in the right place at the wrong time.

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