Rich Schefren Constraints Course

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Has anyone done Rich Schefren's constraints course?

Did it really make a significant breakthrough for you?

I did a lot of IM courses last year looking for breakthroughs. The courses all gave a lot of 'What To Do' tended to be less great at 'How To Do' and they really didn't give you anything on what to do when you get stuck (does anyone else have similar experiences?).

The pitch seems to be that one constraint or another is holding a person back from making it big. That seems simplistic.

Is it really possible to find that out with his course materials?
If this happened to you, did everything become very clear?
Were you able to make fast progress or did it become very clear and then you found yourself with another 1 to 2-years of hard work ahead of you?

I would love to hear what anyone has to say about it.
#constraints #rich #schefren
  • Profile picture of the author pa321
    Rich Schefren is absolutely one of the best out there.But his courses are for ultra advanced marketers who allready have businesses running.
    Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author Todd Brown
    Hey David,

    Guided Profits System (GPS) is a step-by-step coaching program that's designed from the ground up by Rich Schefren to do one thing and one thing only for your business - and that's show you how to identify the one constraint in your business that's holding you back... and how to eliminate it.

    It's all about giving you tools and techniques so you can uncover the one choke-point or weak link in your business... that if you removed it... would give you the biggest benefit.

    For a better idea of what I mean, you should check out this training video: Internet Marketing | Brand New Video: Do THIS… And Making Money Online Becomes EASY!.

    We've got TONS of student case studies, and we'll actually be releasing some audio ones this week for you to listen to.

    Hope that helps,
    ~Todd Brown :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author jon poland
    I went through all of the free material that was presented during this launch and it had a tremendously positive impact on my thinking. If you have yet to do so, read "The Entrepreneurial Emergency." It's a free report that is loaded with great content that will change how you think about business. This thing is powerful.

    And listen to the interviews that Rich did with 12 different internet Marketing Gurus about the "Constraints" that held each of them back.

    I highly recommend that you listen to the interview that Rich did with Brad Fallon. Brad goes deep into the discussion of "Strategy vs. Execution" during this 15 minute talk with Rich. For me, this was incredibly "eye-opening." The interview starts at about minute 58.

    And finally, watch the video of Rich Schefren and Todd Brown (the video from the beach). In this hour long interview Rich offers some tremendous insights on the barriers (i.e. constraints) that are keeping online marketers from realizing their potential. If your web business is not producing the results that you desire, I suggest that you do not purchase another Internet Marketing product until you take a serious look at what Rich is offering.

    I have not seen the actual product. However, if the free stuff is this good, I'm sure the actual product (Guided Profits System 2.0) has got to be tremendous.

    You can get all the info at Rich's blog: Internet Marketing Blog

    By the way, I have no affiliation with Rich or his company, Strategic Profits. I am just an individual who is very impressed with the free content that has been presented with this launch. At this moment I have not purchased Guided Profits System 2.0. However, I am seriously considering it.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheCEOGuy
    Hey todd how come the 5 payment option was taken down?
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    • Profile picture of the author jon poland
      Originally Posted by TheCEOGuy View Post

      Hey todd how come the 5 payment option was taken down?
      I have the same question.

      And just think . . . . I was going to move on this today.

      But that's ok. Rich gave me a good base of information with the material that he supplied with his launch. I'll just have to figure this out on my own.
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      • Profile picture of the author David Payne
        My thanks to everyone for your responses.

        I have looked at a lot of the free material and listened to many recordings. It's proven very useful. I know what my main constraint is and I've created a solution to overcome it.

        I won't buy the course. I'm burned from spending far too much money on other courses.
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      • Profile picture of the author malcasid
        Originally Posted by jon poland View Post

        I have the same question.

        And just think . . . . I was going to move on this today.

        But that's ok. Rich gave me a good base of information with the material that he supplied with his launch. I'll just have to figure this out on my own.
        It's back now.
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        • Profile picture of the author Teddy Garcia
          The payment plan for the GPS course is available again for the next 24 hours.

          Also, for the most part I agree that with TemplarJustice that GPS will have a greater impact on people who have an established business.

          However, it's still valuable for newbies because it will teach you how to focus on the key things you need to work on to grow your business.

          Once you identify those areas, then you can go and learn the necessary information you need to enhance your skills in the most critical areas.

          That's a much better approach than just buying courses randomly.
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  • Profile picture of the author malcasid
    Rich Schefren and his company Strategic Profits always puts out quality material. His reputation speaks for itself. Guided Profits System is ideally for people who already have a business. Of course you can still benefit without one. Guided Profits System will help you break through information overload. And I think that's worth the price of the course alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author templarjustice
    Ummm, David, why is this your first post?

    What your asking & how your asking honestly makes no sense, especially when you haven't discussed why you are even interested in it.

    You seem like one of those guys who come to the Product Review section & post a question to people without discussing why you are posting it - this completely based on how many posts you have.

    For example, if GPS is your first product you seem to have an interest in & suddenly you were lead to the Warrior Forum, and SUDDENLY became a member in May 2009 --
    then i will make this very clear to you....

    IF YOU BUY RICH SHEFREN'S GPS YOU WILL FAIL. The complete reason being, is that there are plenty of products that you may wish to buy that are situated & targeted for a start-up or newbie business owner.

    You do not need GPS to get started, & you should already have a system in place for your business.

    At the end of the day, all this system teaches you is that the Constraints are yourself. And you need to use other people & resources (mostly hire employees) to get things done the way you want them. It's simple as that. Save your money.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
    I recommend you buy a book called 'THE CHOICE ' by Goldratt. It covers TOC - Theory of Constraints in detail and he did invent this theory....

    (This is where Brad Fallon and Rich got the idea)
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  • Profile picture of the author NoLemming
    Rich Schefren releases some great stuff. I recently listened to a recording of a call of Rich Schefren and Michael Masterson. I'm not sure how old it is but it literally changed the way I do business. (No I'm not an affiliate...)
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenneth L
    I have seen some of the stuff that Rich Schefren puts out and to be honest I've never been that impressed. I feel like a lot of it is "The Emperor's New Clothes" being sold at really high prices through JVs getting big commissions.

    Look, to succeed in Internet Marketing you need to be able to sell. Your whole success is based almost entirely on your ability to do this. Traffic and Conversion is where all your energy needs to be placed.

    There is no way you need to spend a fortune to learn some of the concepts he teaches, the vast majority of which are readily available elsewhere at very affordable rates.

    Instead, buy 'The E-Myth Revisited', 'The 4 Hour Workweek' and 'No BS Guide to Time Management'. That is 50 bucks. Tops. And is all you need to deal effectively with the management/organization/strategy side of building a successful internet business.

    No matter what 'spin' or 'angle' is put on it, it all comes down to the great Halbertism/Carltonism of "Operation Moneysuck". i.e focus on high value tasks which bring in the money.

    I think Schefren tries to aggravate the problem and make it seem worse than it is in order to make people buy his courses. He also makes his course appear as a magic bullet. This is effective marketing. Yet, the reason most people fail online is not because they are unorganized or lack a "vision" it is because they can't successfully and predictably generate traffic and convert it into money.

    Focus your energy on traffic and conversion, not "visions, mission statements and mindmaps", outsource customer support, etc and you have all the framework you need for a 6-7 figure business.

    Kenneth
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    • Profile picture of the author David Payne
      My thanks to James and Kenneth for sage advice.

      I've read the E-myth revisited and the Four Hour Work Week. Plus, I've done enough IM courses to realize that traffic and conversion is where the money comes from.

      What you have told me confirms that I'm on the right track. I'm putting great efforts into building a process based business. I'm just frustrated by the length of time that it's taking me.

      I think that you are right and that the constraints approach is no magic bullet.
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      • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
        Originally Posted by James Schramko View Post

        I recommend you buy a book called 'THE CHOICE ' by Goldratt. It covers TOC - Theory of Constraints in detail and he did invent this theory....

        (This is where Brad Fallon and Rich got the idea)
        Originally Posted by Kenneth Rearden View Post

        I have seen some of the stuff that Rich Schefren puts out and to be honest I've never been that impressed. I feel like a lot of it is "The Emperor's New Clothes" being sold at really high prices through JVs getting big commissions.

        Look, to succeed in Internet Marketing you need to be able to sell. Your whole success is based almost entirely on your ability to do this. Traffic and Conversion is where all your energy needs to be placed.

        There is no way you need to spend a fortune to learn some of the concepts he teaches, the vast majority of which are readily available elsewhere at very affordable rates.

        Instead, buy 'The E-Myth Revisited', 'The 4 Hour Workweek' and 'No BS Guide to Time Management'. That is 50 bucks. Tops. And is all you need to deal effectively with the management/organization/strategy side of building a successful internet business.

        No matter what 'spin' or 'angle' is put on it, it all comes down to the great Halbertism/Carltonism of "Operation Moneysuck". i.e focus on high value tasks which bring in the money.

        I think Schefren tries to aggravate the problem and make it seem worse than it is in order to make people buy his courses. He also makes his course appear as a magic bullet. This is effective marketing. Yet, the reason most people fail online is not because they are unorganized or lack a "vision" it is because they can't successfully and predictably generate traffic and convert it into money.

        Focus your energy on traffic and conversion, not "visions, mission statements and mindmaps", outsource customer support, etc and you have all the framework you need for a 6-7 figure business.

        Kenneth


        I echo David's comments.

        Well said to James and a very good summary from Ken.

        Cheers,
        Sam
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      • Profile picture of the author Tyrus Antas
        Originally Posted by David Payne View Post

        I've read the E-myth revisited and the Four Hour Work Week. Plus, I've done enough IM courses to realize that traffic and conversion is where the money comes from.
        You're falling into the salesperson mentality trap. Sure you need traffic and good conversion but have you ever wondered where they come from?

        Have you ever wondered why some people can attract lots of traffic, always have good conversion while others can only drive people to their sites by either deception, gimmicks or pure luck?

        Outsourcing customer support? Horrible, horrible advice. You can make money with customer support plus it improves people's perception of you which means recurring buyers.

        Many people in the IM community make good money but they have horrible brands and their reputation is pretty much ruined. The only way they can survive is by bringing on more people into their sales tunnel. Rarely anybody buys from them a second time. Sure they're good at traffic but they can't create a product worth crap. Is that what you want?

        Don't fall into the salesperson trap and think business is just about the first sale. Ask yourself why many people in the IM community have horrible brands. Do you want to be like them?

        Tyrus
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        • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
          Originally Posted by Tyrus Antas View Post

          Spoken like a true salesperson. There's a reason why salespeople are salespeople and not entrepreneurs: they suck at running businesses.

          Tyrus
          Originally Posted by Tyrus Antas View Post

          You're falling into the salesperson mentality trap...

          Don't fall into the salesperson trap and think business is just about the first sale. Ask yourself why many people in the IM community have horrible brands. Do you want to be like them?

          Tyrus

          Hi Tyrus,

          You make an interesting point.

          We will see if the above guys come back and comment on what you said. I'm not sure they were just focusing on sales.

          I think to be successful you need both an entreprenerial business mind with strategy as a priority and also you do have to be good at sales and/or marketing etc.

          Sam
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          • Profile picture of the author NoLemming
            Interesting conversation.. Anyone that thinks sales and marketing are not the most important skills to learn/focus on in your business is wrong. No exceptions.

            Additionally, outsourcing customer support is one of the first things you need to get off your plate as your business grows... If you believe otherwise use this post as an opportunity to exercise lateral thinking. How much could you get done if you didn't have to focus on responding to every customer issue? It is important to keep your customers happy, but they don't care if you are the person that sends them the correct download link, sends login information, etc.. They just want their issue resolved.

            Here are a few simple equations to illustrate the above:

            Selling lots of stuff = $$$$$$$$
            Customer support = Necessary time intensive overhead
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        • Profile picture of the author David Payne
          Originally Posted by Tyrus Antas View Post


          Don't fall into the salesperson trap and think business is just about the first sale. Ask yourself why many people in the IM community have horrible brands. Do you want to be like them?
          I suppose that it depends upon what part of the start up cycle you are in. I'm in the final stages of creating my product and my conversion process. I've done what I can to lay the foundations of a sound business with a long-lasting, high quality product. If my foundations are truly sound then the business and the brand will be good. These things will be designed in at the start.

          Once I launch I will be free to focus on traffic and conversion and make a process of it (E-Myth style). I think that this approach covers the spectrum under discussion.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tyrus Antas
      Originally Posted by Kenneth Rearden View Post

      Focus your energy on traffic and conversion, not "visions, mission statements and mindmaps", outsource customer support, etc and you have all the framework you need for a 6-7 figure business.
      Spoken like a true salesperson. There's a reason why salespeople are salespeople and not entrepreneurs: they suck at running businesses.

      Tyrus
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