Profit With Michael

I know it was dumb of me. I usually do my research and take the necessary precautions, I don't know what I was thinking. I got the refund from the hosting company and also for the domain name which I was surprised about. I figured the hosting cost was because they were building the website too. I usually Hostgator which is like $10.00 a month. You think as long as I have been researching to make money online I would have known better but.......I have become just so bitter towards the internet marketing community now. It seems like no one actually produces anything with real value with step by step instructions on how to actually make money. It seems like the only way to really make money online is to sell other people crappy hyped up no real information products on how to make money online lol. For once I would like to see a product that looks over the shoulder of an honest person making an honest living online that a newbie can follow and replicate. Here's to dreaming big and wishful thinking.

Thanks for the support guys. I am not new to internet marketing I have built some webpages for Amazon review sites even made a little money (not much).and than Amazon stopped their affiliate program in my state. I do know I need website and domain name.

What do you mean by solo adds in ezines?
Does anyone have an example of a good niche site or opt in page that I could use as an example of what kind of thing I should be doing?

Thank you for the breakdown. They say the site is safe. It is Cloud Pro Hosting. I have been trying to get a warrior opinion because when I go to cpanel, address bar stays red. Asked for Warrior for Hire. Don't know how to track it in threads. So, looking for someone to set up admin & cpanel, preferably with Cloud Pro Hosting experience.

Hi, I also signed up for the profit with Michael website. I was originally looking at it because it was a CPL affiliate offer at one of the affiliate networks I am a member of, so I assumed it was trustworthy but I still wanted to check it for myself before I put it on my website. Originally thinking that it was free I thought I had nothing to lose. But then they wanted the $29 for hosting which I paid as you were promised you would get $100 back if it did not work. It then sent me to another site called Web fire which also required payment. This website was supposed to find you free traffic??
After reading this post I have asked both sites for my money back so we will see how that goes.
For those who have done this and feel they have no way of getting their money back there is actually a system when you use your credit card called chargeback if you call your credit card owners you can ask them for a chargeback on the credit card.
I hope this helps some. Cheers

That website must have some kind of subliminal trap, because as most of you have said, even with past experience, fell for the offer, I too,,,

My God, I should have done an online search before subscribing to that crap called profitwithmichael and coolhandle.com, and I could have landed on this review site, and saved me the headaches to come, from what I have read here, they, the headaches, are only the beginning.

Somebody sent me an e-mail promising a profitable online business opportunity, I clicked the link and arrived to a video presentation, offering a professional all done for you website with ready to get targeted traffic.

This website was valued at $397.00 but I was going to receive it for only $29.95, one time payment.

Since I had received similar videos with this kind of presentation and they had very good websites, but at a much higher price, I thought that this would be an excellent opportunity to join this offer.

The website was: affiliatesitepros.com and had connections with: NewAffiliateCashSystem.com from some David, other related websites: yourprofitwebsite.com, and profitwithmichael.com,

When I clicked the payment button it said $29,95 monthly fee, one time payment for first month?????

I still did, behaved like a moron, and paid with my credit card, there the problems started, the links are troublesome, didn't understand the instructions, but clicking links randomly, got the website ¿built?,

The website was worst than amateur, with bad English, no correlations, and I don't know who would buy anything from that website,

Then I read their TOS, Terms Of Service, WAO!!!!!!

They charge even for breathing, and the most espectacular: a cancellation request could take up to 15 days and during those days you could be charge for different fees,

They offered a 60 day money back guaranteed, that turned out to be a 30 day one in their TOS, Since they had so many restrictions I decided to cancel my subscription immediately: I joined on March 2, 2014, sent the Cancellation Form on March 6, you have to use their Cancellation Form for the cancellation to be valid, so they say,

This is done through their support ticket system, where there is no way to follow them, although they insist on following them if you want to be served correctly, Their support system has a priority setup, but they are the only one able to indicate the priority of a support ticket, this cancellation request was valued as "low" priority,

On March 7, I received a response indicating me not to cancel, but if I wanted to cancel I had to send a termination comfirmation ticket,

If you don't respond they consider that you are keeping the service, I understand that the opposite should have been the case,

I sent the termination request immediately,

They said that a support technician or personnel would promptly respond to my request,

Since 18 days passed without I receiving the refund, I sent a reply requesting the refund, they responded by indicating that cancellations were handled in the order received, I responded if they had so many cancellations requests that in 18 days they had not refunded my money,

In a whois search they seem to be based in California: 700 W 6 St, Los Angeles, CA, 90017, phone number: 1-866-200-2828, Admin: Cool Handle Hosting, apparently they have protected their domain for 16 years: 2002 - 2018,

From what I have read here I will probably have to contact a consumer protection agency in Los Angeles, CA, the Federal Trade Commission, do something with my credit card so that I won't be charged for other or monthly fees,

I don't know if I am still in time to request a chargeback from my card company?

Does any one know what is the time limit for a chargeback request?

I should have known better, not doing a scam search before buying,

Sincerely,

Luis Antonios

Can I have the website URL you have got from him? Actually the hosting and domain part is not a scam because you need these. The thing is the hosting price is too high. Did he provide you any process for driving traffic and any guide on how to make money from the site he provided?

I can help you earning some money from your website to help you to recover the loss. Can give you some suggestion. ( And will ask for a thanks only, no money )

I've experienced almost exactly the same with another marketer back in late 2008. That's when i didn't have a business yet; I was more of a hobbyist than anything serious.

My "free" website required hosting with a very particular company that charged $197 for a year of hosting. My special "super affiliate" site turned out to be this spam html site with a ton of banners and no content.

I refunded through the hosting company but later (stupidly) jumped onto the same dudes $297 product at a special rate of $17 (LOL at the discount).

What i did not realize is that the $17, supposedly one time, was actually recurring monthly. Worse yet was the actual product, an online treasure map to success, was a vague big picture course teaching you to create value and sell it to people looking to solve a problem.

Not worth the time and money, not to mention the headache it caused to finally cancel the payments.

There are a lot of these guys out there, sad to say. Even though I have a successful business now I think a lot of other warriors have been through this crap as well.

So please don't think that the entire online business world is like this. There are definitely some crap marketers out there but quite a few more ethical ones to fill their place

If you are thinking on joining a program and the payment process is directly with the company, be aware, that could be a scam flag.

Getting a refund from direct paying companies could be very difficult, if not impossible, like it is with cool handle.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE COMPANY and if the payment processor is their own, usually keep out.

IF the payment processor is Paypal or Clickbank, even if the product is crap you are guaranteed a refund if you are not satisfied with the product, even if the company doesn't say so.

You can buy products with direct payment processors if the company has an excellent reputation, like Amazon, E-bay, Sears, JC Penny, Wal-Mart, etc.

An unknown company could be honest and legitimate and have its own payment processor, but there are so many scam schemes out there that it is better to keep on the safe side, and even contact the company and telling them the issue. I did it once and the company let me pay with Paypal.

Sincerely,

Your friend,

Antonios

I placed a complaint at ripoffreport.com There are complaints of other scammed people.