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Hey Guy's, I am seriously considering buying Frank Kern's MassControl 2.0 to help improve my online business. But i'm a little scared at handing over nearly $2K of my hard earned cash to pay for it. Has anybody here already got it and does it teach you what Frank Kern says it does? Your honest opinion please? Thanks, Ben |
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If you're new to IM, you havent created your own products and you are not yet making decent money off the net, then my opinion is that MC 2.0 is not for you. I feel it's better used by "advanced users". Same thing goes for Product Launch Formula 2.0
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Frank Kern's Mass Control delivers -- if you follow through his course. It's one of the best courses that I've ever purchased. Highly recommended if you want to sell products online for money. |
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Thanks guys, I've been internet marketing for 2 years and full time for the last month, i'm making enough money with my own products and affiliate marketing to be able to give up my day job so I do consider myself a (semi) advanced marketer. Has anybody actually seen an increase in profits from implementing what they have learnt from masscontrol 2.0? |
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| I agree with this. Kern talks and talks and he's fun to watch because of his persona (profanities and humor included)... but I never get anything valuable from his videos. Pretty much like Eban Pagan: tons of metaphysical talk but little juice. That's why I like Filsaine and Richard Brunson better: not as charismatic but certainly more content-focused.
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However, there is one caveat: Eben and Frank do a LOT of things right and make a LOT of money, so studying what they DO much more than what they SAY is very worthwhile! Kenneth | |
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I think there was a thread floating around here to a link where a guy basically broke down everything in the package module by module. If you search you may find it... It is basically lots of sales psychology stuff/mind control/subliminal suggestion stuff and a little bit on how to formulate the launch of a product. If you already have your product and list, then it can be considered decent entertainment for the money if you are into that sort of thing. If you are still at ground zero, then it may inspire and hype you up to go out and get a product and a list..... |
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I would save my 2k for now.
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If you have our own product and a decent sized prospect/email list then the course will definetly make you money. Say what you want about this free online videos, but MC 2.0 is really PACKED with content. There's a another MC 2.0 thread on here where someone gives a pretty in depth review of the course. G |
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Mass Control 2.0 is a great product! If you have your own product to sell and have a pretty good list. Yeah, Frank is a little different, but he KNOWS what he's talking about. He made nearly $5 million in 2 days when he launched Mass Control 2.0... He's basically teaching you how you could do the same thing (no one is promising $5 mill. but in time, if you follow what he teaches, you could possibly make it happen for you). Frankly (pun intended) I love the product and I think Frank Kern delivers great content (once you get passed his free videos and become a customer...he treats his customers well). Hope that helps |
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Mass Control is great. We used Mass Control on the media, and my client is going to be on ABC News 20/20 on the 19th because of it.
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I don't want to get into any sort of war, but some people seem to be very negative on just about everything and of the opinion that it can't be done and that good information is not worth paying for, and good service is not worth buying. I cant possibly imagine someone having any success with an attitude like this.
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Ben, If you are making enough money now after 2 years to allow you give up your day job...what do you need Frank Kern's (or anybody elses) stuff for? Spend your money in your business....do what your are doing except on a bigger scale...use your money to outsource and replicate systems...but don't hand over 2k to be told the secret of what you are doing already. You are in an enviable position...use it and scale up. Or treat yourself! |
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I think Mass control is a great value for money product with step by step plan to make huge money in information marketing, especially it will help you create a responsive list with a powerful sales funnel that will help you sell more of your product.
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Thankyou guys for all your valuable advice. I have now decided not to buy masscontrol and instead invest my $2K in others areas of my business. Once again thanks, Ben |
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To add to this post, has anybody tried Mike Dillards product? He has a similarly titled program that is being offered now and I am contemplating purchasing it. The price now is $300 but apparantly the price will jump to $1000 on Wednesday. Can anybody provide feedback on what they think of the product? |
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Mass Control also gives you the '4 Day Money Machine' which is intended to make you recoup the cost of the course if you follow it.
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Its not available anymore is it?
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Mass Control does not deliver insane amounts of money. That's up to YOU. But, it absolutely has the potential to bring you to that level.
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I had to LOL. I've never seen his course, but I do think he knows what he's talking about. If I have the time, I'll probably invest, but I don't. Just look at the way he launches his products...very savvy, and very smooth. I like to guess that a lot of his content talks about marketing...and sometimes marketing is not just about numbers. They may come across as fluff to some people. Totally understand. Still think that's a lot to learn from him. If you don't want to spend money, then just watch what he does. |
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I love Frank Kern but you have to be on a certain level to really benefit in my opinion. If you study Joe Vitale's Hypnotic Marketing you will pick up alot I think. Comparing the success that Frank has with his launches with the average first timer is a bit of a stretch for many. On the other hand....his free workshop he offered with the course is priceless. If you do purchase...do yourself a favor and do a search for these keywords.....Frank Kern Mass Control BONUS ALOT OF GREAT MARKETERS WILL THROW IN SOME INCREDIBLE EXTRAS IF YOU GO THRU THEIR AFFILIATE LINK. |
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I bought Mass Control and love it. In fact, I'm using it on my up-coming launch for Secret Cash Blueprint. The seminar was awesome as well. I met a ton of people... Jeff Walker, Yanik Silver, Trey Smith, Andy Jenkins... If you are thinking of launching a product in the near future I highly recommend it. It's great even if you don't get my bonus with it. Craig Beckta |
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Thats an awesome bonus! In fact I am thinking about launching my own product so MassControl 2.0 combined with your bonus is definately something to consider. Thanks, Ben | |
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You know what... On every launch you learn something new. You know what they say about experience. What I liked the most about Mass Control 2.0 and this may sound weird. You get a huge box of stuff. I was just borrowing from some of the email swipe files this morning. It comes with swipe files from the Stomper launch and a bunch of others... It's great if your planning a launch. Frank has the whole thing down to a science. It also comes with the Four Day Cash Blueprint which works like a charm. I actually used it to make $1800.00 in four days. If you have any questions about it, let me know. Craig Beckta |
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Here is a real testimonial. Watch ABC News 20/20 on Friday the 19th. They will be doing a segment on Wall Street's New Whiz Bang Boom kids etc. We used MC on the producers, and my client is the feature of the presentation. |
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If you are a complete newbie, than it may not be as useful. Although, there is a ton of great info that can help you. It all depends where you are... A lot of it comes down to having a positive frame of mind and then working towards some concrete goals. Unfortunately you can't just push a button and watch money roll in. I made my money back and more, so it's a winner in my books. Craig |
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True enough, but we have used it to get on Fox News, CNBC, Bloomberg, the BBC and a ton of radio programs. Each time we have made a ton of money, so I figure we got that covered. |
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This thread is interesting. I think people who buy Mass Control see what they want to see. My honest belief is it is not worth the $2K and while I didn't send mine back for a refund I probably should have. There is a plan there - but it's not masterful, it's not even new. Sorry Frank... With the re-launch I got the course out and started going through it again. The best advice I can give is if you buy, buy through someone's link who has a lot of bonuses. |
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In my own experience most things that are "new" in the marketing world do not work very well...which is why they havent been tried yet. Obviously new technology comes around from time to time that allows for a few things to be done - but for the most part the effective stuff has been around a long time. Where you get results is by finding out what someone who is more succesful then you is doing, and repeating that proccess with your own little spin on it as best you can. Brandon Quote:
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| Woah! I'm gonna look out for that. That is totally awesome.
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I love Franks material, some is over the top but he does offer real value. Though I wouldn't drop 2k for it.
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Just to let you know guys, someone's selling Mass Control on eBay here: ttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&i tem=130311756968 I'd buy it, but I can't even afford it at this discounted price :'( I reckon it should go to someone that deserves it! |
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I'm sure there's a thread somewhere that gives some PROOF that people are making money with Frank's stuff. The audio that comes with th epackage are filled with them. LISTEN: The way he starts each audio with "success stories" is a lesson worth the course price. But on to something real and honest. 1. MC has helped me build stronger relationships with my list. 2. Which equals more money. Now then... I took a small list. Ran a typical "sale." Sold $1,292 Took the same list and same product a month later. Ran the 4 Day Cash Machine. $7,219 |
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I always google stuff like that with the word scam after the product name or complaint , rip off ect to see what others are saying that is negative about a product.
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| Mass Control is NOT a scam. This is not one of those products. And you might actually find sites with Mass Control Scam that are actually selling the product as affiliates. This is a common tactic amongst affiliates.
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There is one thing for which Frank kern is famous: for defrauding a lot of people and put under investigation by FTC and other state comissions. You can find a lot of information about his defrauding schemes and scams he ran on a lot of people, making close to 1m usd through Fraud, on google search Frank kern FTC for example |
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I just bought the course yesterday so I can't give you any results, but the unannounced stuff you get instant access to is pretty awesome. Listening to the John Reese thing right now... Yeah, that's against the law numb nuts. Reported. |
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I hope you don't have to pay any nasty duties, or taxes. I remember reading how a dude from the UK ended up paying $200+ in duties/taxes. Oh well, its worth it anyway. It just sucks when you have to pay these extra fees. | |
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No big deal, like you say I think it'll be well worth it! | |
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Yawn! I'm no big Frank Kern worshipper, but this is old hat and very well known in the Internet Marketing field. You obviously haven't been around for long. Know all the facts, before you start putting someone down personally. By all means express an opinion on his products if you have bought and used them, but pull that carrot out of your ass and keep your prejudice to yourself otherwise. | |
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Hey if your interested in mass control 2.0 pm me and I will tell you where you can get this cource for a fraction af that price. I bought this when it first came out and I am interested in selling it cheap. I can't pm you as I am new here |
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Wow! This thread really took off ![]() I have a couple of quick questions... Has anybody bought MC since it was re-released on the 12th June? Also What was the best bonus that was offered? Thanks, Ben |
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The best bonus depends on whatcha' want, really. John Reese is giving out a gigantic package with Traffic Secrets 2.0 and some other fancy stuff, some people are offering electronics, etc. I personally bought it through Jason Moffatt's link. No offense to anyone offering stuff like I mentioned above because it's definitely cool... but for me personally, the last thing I need is some physical stuff that either gets dusty or distracts me from makin' money with my purchase: Mass Control. Jason's offer was to personally help you with your Mass Control campaign, plus a bunch of his products. Personal help from someone who has used Mass Control and gotten good results gives me even more confidence that I'll make back my investment (plus more). This completely eliminates any possibility of confusion, which means there'll be no confusion when I go off and do it solo in the future. ![]() ... then if I decide I want Traffic Secrets or a Wii or whatever, I'll have made back my investment and have enough to go out and buy them. Plus during his live streaming thing he gave some useful tips and advice. Not trying to pitch his bonus or anything, just explaining the logic I followed when I decided. Go with what suits you best! Best of luck. | |
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Hey Josh, you made a good buy taking it from Jason. I totally agree with you that having a helping hand, not extra products, is the best bonus out there.
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